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[Q] Cyanogen & Kernals

Newb question that I couldn't find the answer to.
Since CyanogenMod is AOSP and Stock is Sense:
Does the current version of CyanogenMod (v7.x) download files contain changes to the kernal?
If not, will Cyanogen v7.x run stable with the Stock HTC kernal?
I want to try out Cyanogen v7 but due to work I need to be able to flip back to Stock rooted for stability if needed. I just want to know if I'll need to worry about flashing the kernal too when flipping back and forth.
Thanks....

Any ROM comes packaged with an appropriate kernel once flashed. There are alternatives but the stock Cyanogen kernel is pretty boss on its own.

Yes cm7 contains its own aosp kernel.
No sense kernels will not work on aosp roms.
Every rom comes with its correct kernel.no need to flash one unless you want to.
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Thanks for the reply.
Will be giving the latest cyanogen RC a try tonight.
And, as I just read, the Nand backup covers the kernal, I wont have to worry about separatly flashing the kernal back to stock if I need to restore.
Somewhere I got the idea that the ROM and Kernal were separate flashes.
Thanks....

Not sure about anyone else, but cyanogenmod included kernel for me has been pretty much 100% stable for me. I didn't get any restarts until I started flashing other kernals and some mods.

[Q] confused about kernal

I was wondering about the overclocking kernal for cm7. just how do i put it in. Do I have to do that when I first install or can I add it later. also does it really help. I mean is the difference really noticeable or not at all. I am still deciding if I should do it or not.

Kernels are flashed through ClockworkMod and can be flash anytime after you flash a rom. If you use the search bar you can easily find what particular kernel works for your setup.

OK, I think I found the right one but I was also wondering if I could install it when I first installed cm7. When I installed it I saw that it was searching for the kernel and for gapps but didn't find the n and skipped it. Could I install it then

chad11 said:
OK, I think I found the right one but I was also wondering if I could install it when I first installed cm7. When I installed it I saw that it was searching for the kernel and for gapps but didn't find the n and skipped it. Could I install it then
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CM7 has the ability to be overclocked as it sets.
settings > CM settings > performance > CPU settings.
just be extremely careful when Overclocking devices. it can takes it's toll in the long run.
and the g/apps are not kernel dependent they are ROM dependent.

OK but what do you mean by gapps are not kernal dependant

chad11 said:
OK but what do you mean by gapps are not kernal dependant
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On *UNIX based devices. They have a section of the firmware called the "kernel". The kernel accepts the coding, binary and scripts from the RAM/ROM and tells the hardware how to act, what to do, and when to do it.
The g/apps have nothing to do with the kernel.
The g/apps are Google's property and cannot be included in AOSP based ROMs. Those ROMs are developed from Google's code. And developers do not have the ability to add those at will. So we must flash them after/prior (depending on he ROM) to get the Google Apps.

YES! DO IT!
for me its like day and night, it so much smoother with dals OC kernel. and yes you can flash the OC kernel any time. you can flash cm7 rc1 then OC kernel in the same boot. or you can first install cm7 to check it out for a while and then later flash the new kernel. if you planning to flash dal's 6/18 kernel, make sure to get his app NC Tweaks.
NC Tweaks here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104039
Dal's Kernel here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925451

thanks. What I want to know is how to flash it. do I do it the same way as gapps( have wifi and reboot in recovery mode) or is there a different way?

chad11 said:
thanks. What I want to know is how to flash it. do I do it the same way as gapps( have wifi and reboot in recovery mode) or is there a different way?
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You place the over clock zip file in the root of your sd card and flash it through cwm like you would a rom or gapps. So for example you would flash cm7 then gapps then the overclock kernel.

Not to Jack this thread, but I want to update from cm7 old kernel to New nightly build. Does the new kernel flash with the nightly?
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JeramyEggs said:
Not to Jack this thread, but I want to update from cm7 old kernel to New nightly build. Does the new kernel flash with the nightly?
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When you move from stable cm7 to cm7 nightly the new kernel is included. However the included kernel is overclockable only to 975mhz. If you want a higher clock speed you'll have to use dals 6182011 kernel, up to 1200mhz.

whats is cmw?

chad11 said:
whats is cmw?
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it's actually CWM.
ClockWork Manager
basically boot into recovery then flash.

OK. but this may be a stupid question but will the cm7 kernal work with the stable version7.0.3 because that is what I have.

chad11 said:
OK. but this may be a stupid question but will the cm7 kernel work with the stable version7.0.3 because that is what I have.
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I'm not following you cannot use just a Cyanogen(mod) kernel. They are built into their ROMs.

chad11 said:
OK. but this may be a stupid question but will the cm7 kernal work with the stable version7.0.3 because that is what I have.
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sorry, but no. dal's 6/18 OC kernel will not work with 7.0.3....
...just flash n118 and you'll be fine

Ok thanks anyway. do you know when the kernal will work with a stable version

chad11 said:
Ok thanks anyway. do you know when the kernal will work with a stable version
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The latest nightly should be considered stable. It is in release candidate stable for the next stable build. The next stable build should be released in the next couple of days.

neidlinger said:
it's actually CWM.
ClockWork Manager
basically boot into recovery then flash.
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No--It's- Clock Work Mod Recovery
CWMR ;^}

Jimbo67 said:
No--It's- Clock Work Mod Recovery
CWMR ;^}
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There is a Clockwork ROM Manager and a ClockworkMod Recovery image.
Together they are known as "CWM" Since one is a recovery and the other is a ROM manager.

Wanting to upgrade to Gingerbread

Hello Everyone,
I have become bored of Cyanogen now and believe it would be better to run the stock ROM with a OC kernel,
Is it possible to run stock gingerbread with a OC kernel,
or
would I have to stick with my froyo backup at the moment and a OC kernel.
Any opinions also welcome
Also which kernel is best?
Thanks a lot!!

I don't get what you mean by "Stock Gingerbread". There is no such thing for the Wildfire, and, probably, there never will be. This thus only leaves you with an option to restore your Froyo Backup and use an OC Kernel with it. For a Sense ROM Kernel, look at nFinity MC4 from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995301

3xeno said:
I don't get what you mean by "Stock Gingerbread". There is no such thing for the Wildfire, and, probably, there never will be. This thus only leaves you with an option to restore your Froyo Backup and use an OC Kernel with it. For a Sense ROM Kernel, look at nFinity MC4 from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995301
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Thanks for advice, appreciated! Also is there a gingerbread custom rom which is almost the same as stock gingerbread
Thanks very, very much!

Any AOSP ROM (This includes Cyanogenmod 7) is a "Stock" ROM. If you are looking for completely Stock, then have a look at DevNull.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139259
And if by Stock, you mean one with HTC Sense, then, the choice is limited to only SFM, which is incomplete, and it seems the project is shelved, with even emanilio not working on it anymore because of the loss of his Wildfire
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1067868

Sorry to be a pain, is it possible for a guide of how to flash a kernel, I am worried something will go wrong

The process is the same as it is to flash a ROM. Place kernel file on SDCard > Go to Clockworkmod Recovery > Install Zip from SDCard > select Kernel zip.

Wingray MZ604 4.0.3 IML77 OC Kernels

I was a little surprised to see that there were no OC'd kernels to add-on to the stock IML77 official Google ROM that I've been playing around with. So, I set up a linux install and an android build environment so I could make some hybrid boot images combining the kernels from the latest (1/15/12) Team EOS and Cyanogenmod 9 ROMS with the stock ramdisk to use to fastboot on to my IML77 build.
I strongly suggest if you are going to try this to boot into Recovery and take a nandroid backup of your boot partition so that you can have that to fastboot back on your Xoom in the event that something goes wrong here. I take no responsibility if things go south for you.
to use, download the boot image of your choice to the same folder as your fastboot binary and run "fastboot flash boot CM9_stock_hybrid_boot.img" or "fastboot flash boot EOS_stock_hybrid_boot.img" depending on the kernel of your choosing.
Team EOS (Tiamat) 2.6.39.4 kernel: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28227060/EOS_stock_hybrid_boot.img
Team EOS (Tiamat) 2.6.39.4 kernel mirror: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28227060/stock-IML77_boot.img
Team Rogue (CM9) 2.6.39.4 kernel: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28227060/CM9_stock_hybrid_boot.img
Team Rogue (CM9) 2.6.39.4 kernel mirror: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28227060/stock-IML77_boot.img
In case you did not heed my warning above and need a stock IML77 boot image, here's the one I pulled from my system.
stock boot image: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28227060/stock-IML77_boot.img
stock boot image mirror: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28227060/stock-IML77_boot.img
One last thing, I take no credit for any of the kernel work (Thanks goes to Team EOS and Team Rogue for that!) only putting it together into a boot image that's usable with the official stock Google IML77 ROM.

Hmmmm....... not sure what to make of this or what to say. I can say that without some modifications this will break init.d, CIFS, and USB OTG on our kernel. In the meantime anyone is welcome to check out or use our git, or wait until we release our ICS kernel which should be soon....

Steady Hawkin said:
Hmmmm....... not sure what to make of this or what to say. I can say that without some modifications this will break init.d, CIFS, and USB OTG on our kernel. In the meantime anyone is welcome to check out or use our git, or wait until we release our ICS kernel which should be soon....
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Thanks for the warning. I did no source modifications and therefore these items (and possibly others) will be broken. I didn't notice and don't mind since I don't use any of them with this ROM. Glad to hear that a Rogue ICS kernel will be released soon

Wondering.. USBotg is present?

heeding all warnings, I did this anyway <appreciate the warnings anyway guys>
It appears to work - I am now overclocked to 1.5 (via CPU) and have kept all 3G functionality (MZ601 Everest).
Verry happy - not sure how many others out there have an overclocked 3g Euro xoom ;-)
thx tutech

iBuzman said:
heeding all warnings, I did this anyway <appreciate the warnings anyway guys>
It appears to work - I am now overclocked to 1.5 (via CPU) and have kept all 3G functionality (MZ601 Everest).
Verry happy - not sure how many others out there have an overclocked 3g Euro xoom ;-)
thx tutech
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Which one did you use for the MZ601, TeamEOS or teamROGUE kernel?
TIA

jucapo said:
Which one did you use for the MZ601, TeamEOS or teamROGUE kernel?
TIA
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I used the EOS one.
This was my sequence of loading/flashing:
Flashed all 4 MZ601 4.0.3 Alpha Build images.
Flashed CWM Recovery
Installed Universal-Root via Recovery
Pushed my (saved on file) teleophony settings
All good now on MZ601 3G rooted
Flashed EOS Wingray boot image from above
Wiped Cache / Dalvik in Recovery
Installed SetCPU
Overclock on boot!!
Fully functioning 3G MZ601 ICS Overclocked Xoom!!

Rogue ICS kernel has been published
Overclockable and runs well on the MZ601
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iBuzman said:
I used the EOS one.
This was my sequence of loading/flashing:
Flashed all 4 MZ601 4.0.3 Alpha Build images.
Flashed CWM Recovery
Installed Universal-Root via Recovery
Pushed my (saved on file) teleophony settings
All good now on MZ601 3G rooted
Flashed EOS Wingray boot image from above
Wiped Cache / Dalvik in Recovery
Installed SetCPU
Overclock on boot!!
Fully functioning 3G MZ601 ICS Overclocked Xoom!!
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Your 3G network works fine ?
You have issue with Android Market ? Like Missing many apps for example angry birds
Thx

DragonEarth said:
Your 3G network works fine ?
You have issue with Android Market ? Like Missing many apps for example angry birds
Thx
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Yep, 3g all good
And yes, I am missing many apps from the Marketplace, I think this is due to the ro.fingerprint values contained in the build.prop (can't confirm until I solve the issue though).
Btw, I have now updated to the Rogue Kuma kernel.
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[Q] What's your favorite ROM?

Hi everyone,
Im kinda new to the whole modding scene of the i9000. Ive had my phone for over a year now, only recently have I updated to stock GB 2.3.6 rom and flashed CF-Root and CWM. Now I want to play around with it a bit more haha.
So I just putting the question out there. As I am new Im not to sure on the "popular" ROMs. Ive read a little that JB is unstable for the i9000, Ill be happy with ICS. If everyone can comment on what ROM theyre using, and why its the best.
Thanks in advance
FW: 2.3.6
Baseband: i9000XWJW1
Kernel: [email protected] #2
Build: Gingerbread.xwjw6

battznz said:
Hi everyone,
Im kinda new to the whole modding scene of the i9000. Ive had my phone for over a year now, only recently have I updated to stock GB 2.3.6 rom and flashed CF-Root and CWM. Now I want to play around with it a bit more haha.
So I just putting the question out there. As I am new Im not to sure on the "popular" ROMs. Ive read a little that JB is unstable for the i9000, Ill be happy with ICS. If everyone can comment on what ROM theyre using, and why its the best.
Thanks in advance
FW: 2.3.6
Baseband: i9000XWJW1
Kernel: [email protected] #2
Build: Gingerbread.xwjw6
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Semaphore+cyano10

You really should give the official CyanogenMod 10 a try (latest Google Android Jelly Bean v4.1.1)
Please, point me to the writings where it says that it's unstable. That's a kids-talk lye
- charge battery to 100 %
- remove Sim-card and External SD-card
- flash stock JW8 with Odin3 v1.87 (pit-512 and repartition)
- flash CF-Root JW4 v4.4
- shut down phone and enter CWM Recovery using the 3-button combo
- in CWM Recovery do a wipe data factory reset
- in CWM Recovery mount all and format all (yes, best to format internal USB to)
- in CWM Recovery mount internal USB to PC and copy downloaded CM10 + Gapps
- flash CM10 nightly (phone will boot in CWM Recovery)
- do a wipe data factory reset again
- flash CM10 again + latest JB Gapps
- fix permissions in CWM and boot
- have fun!
-Sam-
PS: If you want ICS, download latest CyanogenMod 9 nightly (see CM10 download link above) + latest ICS Gapps and follow the same procedure Play around with both of them and take your pick. You can't go wrong with any custom CM9/CM10 builds either... I'll stick to the official CM10 + Devil3 v1.5.2 kernel :good:

Wow, now thats an answer! :thumbup: Mine's gonna be a lot poorer
I am on cm9.1 with devils 1.4.1 kernel and its amazingly smooth, stable and fast. All you want. I like how simple it is.
Tried AOKP Milestone 6, which has a little more extras (weather in notification panel and lockscreen and so on) and is one of the best ICS Roms. You could also try SlimICS or other roms, but I can't tell you nothing about them cause I didn't try them.
Also there is a certain project called MIUI which could be of your interest: It is very similar to iOS from Apple and also based on ICS or GB.
Or go directly for the new Jelly Bean!
So you see, the world of flashing just opened the doors for you! Enjoy this amazing community as I do and make yourself a new handy!
Never forget to thank the developers for their amazing work they do after a hard workday in real life just to improve our old devices!
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda app-developers app

SamHaLeKe said:
You really should give the official CyanogenMod 10 a try (latest Google Android Jelly Bean v4.1.1)
Please, point me to the writings where it says that it's unstable. That's a kids-talk lye
- charge battery to 100 %
- remove Sim-card and External SD-card
- flash stock JW8 with Odin3 v1.87 (pit-512 and repartition)
- flash CF-Root JW4 v4.4
- shut down phone and enter CWM Recovery using the 3-button combo
- in CWM Recovery do a wipe data factory reset
- in CWM Recovery mount all and format all (yes, best to format internal USB to)
- in CWM Recovery mount internal USB to PC and copy downloaded CM10 + Gapps
- flash CM10 nightly (phone will boot in CWM Recovery)
- do a wipe data factory reset again
- flash CM10 again + latest JB Gapps
- fix permissions in CWM and boot
- have fun!
-Sam-
PS: If you want ICS, download latest CyanogenMod 9 nightly (see CM10 download link above) + latest ICS Gapps and follow the same procedure Play around with both of them and take your pick. You can't go wrong with any custom CM9/CM10 builds either... I'll stick to the official CM10 + Devil3 v1.5.2 kernel :good:
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moriansafas said:
Wow, now thats an answer! :thumbup: Mine's gonna be a lot poorer
I am on cm9.1 with devils 1.4.1 kernel and its amazingly smooth, stable and fast. All you want. I like how simple it is.
Tried AOKP Milestone 6, which has a little more extras (weather in notification panel and lockscreen and so on) and is one of the best ICS Roms. You could also try SlimICS or other roms, but I can't tell you nothing about them cause I didn't try them.
Also there is a certain project called MIUI which could be of your interest: It is very similar to iOS from Apple and also based on ICS or GB.
Or go directly for the new Jelly Bean!
So you see, the world of flashing just opened the doors for you! Enjoy this amazing community as I do and make yourself a new handy!
Never forget to thank the developers for their amazing work they do after a hard workday in real life just to improve our old devices!
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda app-developers app
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Wow! Haha. Ill agree...that was some answer.
Ok so i dont have specific posts that say JB is unstable, I have come to the conclusion that I must of been blindish when i read the threads as I think they may have been from when the thread started, which in some cases is MONTHS ago. In other words when the porting of JB was still in testing.
Thanks for the answer. Im gonna try it out, although I havent yet seen the potential in ICS (yes im a bit behind), why not jump straight to JB.
Atleast with a nand and efs backup, and a jig handy, I can give a few roms/kernels a try.
Thanks to you both and to the developers of the xda community :good:
I look forward to visiting and maybe contributing in the future.

Semaphore+cyano10

Cyanogenmod 9.1.0
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[NIGHTLY][ROM][4.1.1] CyanogenMod 10 for Samsung Galaxy S
ALL STOCK! pawitp FTW!

X-Bean 3.0 + Semaphore 2.4.0s running smooth & stable here

Ultra Gen Version 1.5

MIUI, but I am currently using tsunami X + devil