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So,
I'm really intrigued by the Nexus one, i've been researching this thing for a bit now.
But i still have one open question, i bought a Samsung Galaxy once, but i returned it, the operating temperature was too warm for my sweaty hands.
So how does the Nexus One do heat wise? Does it get warm at all? Or does it heat up quite a bit when let's say web surfing ( via WiFi, which leads my to my next point)
So, my next point is that i will use a prepaid SIM in this phone, i'll be moving back to germany in a year, so i don't have a contract here.
So is it advisable to have this phone without a data plan? Does it ruin the entire experience if i just use Wifi? Is it even possible to turn off Cellular DATA?
I hope to hear good answers, so i can convince myself to buy this shweet and unique phone ^^
nope mine never gets hot, maybe only when charging.
could you give a comparsion on how warm it gets?
i have a zune hd, and i absolutely love it (OLED + Tegra) and it stays fairly cool, i also had an iPod touch, those 2 never really got that warm, so you're saying i won't experience a sweaty hands syndrome with this phone? That's awesome.
And to my other question about turning off mobile data, is there a particular setting that says that?
Thanks in advance!!
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So,
I'm really intrigued by the Nexus one, i've been researching this thing for a bit now.
But i still have one open question, i bought a Samsung Galaxy once, but i returned it, the operating temperature was too warm for my sweaty hands.
So how does the Nexus One do heat wise? Does it get warm at all? Or does it heat up quite a bit when let's say web surfing ( via WiFi, which leads my to my next point)
So, my next point is that i will use a prepaid SIM in this phone, i'll be moving back to germany in a year, so i don't have a contract here.
So is it advisable to have this phone without a data plan? Does it ruin the entire experience if i just use Wifi? Is it even possible to turn off Cellular DATA?
I hope to hear good answers, so i can convince myself to buy this shweet and unique phone ^^
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-yes you can turn off cellular. but thats totaly with talk also
-I believe it will ruin the experience of the nexus without data *unless your near wifi mostly*
-but Wifi is AMAZING on this puppy. things load so freakin fast. i kick my best friends iphone 3gs when were surfing on the same router.
i am next to wifi 90% of the day, so it doesn't really matter
but there's no way to just disable DATA over EDGE or 3G?
I use an application called Quick Settings which offers an option to completely turn off mobile data. I'd struggle myself on wireless only though. Sometimes when you're out and about it's invaluable to be able to look something up or check Google Maps.
I use APNdroid works really good
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_sd7K-TbcSrc/Sz7WTX5-y6I/AAAAAAAAERg/KinptuXXylI/apndroid%5B2%5D.jpg
alright! thanks for the quick replies
Hmmm, i think i'm buying this baby right naow
creepinshadow said:
alright! thanks for the quick replies
Hmmm, i think i'm buying this baby right naow
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Good Move Your going to luv this bad boy N1
creepinshadow said:
i am next to wifi 90% of the day, so it doesn't really matter
but there's no way to just disable DATA over EDGE or 3G?
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I use APNdroid on market. works fine. you can turn on and off 3G whenever you like
just one thing...
engadget.com/2010/01/20/htc-bravo-gettin-overexposed-in-the-wild/
what would you say?
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If i turn heptic feedback off (hate it!), my softkeys don't vibrate anymore..
BUT.. everytime i unlock the phone, it still vibrates.. Is there any way to turn it off (i can't stand it)?
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just one thing...
engadget.com/2010/01/20/htc-bravo-gettin-overexposed-in-the-wild/
what would you say?
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512 MB RAM > 320 MB RAM
Also, stock UI > Sense UI (FOR ME). I would rather get new ROM updates from Cyanogen etc rather than waiting months and months and months on end for HTC to update (example: what version are Heros running? )
Paul22000 said:
512 MB RAM > 320 MB RAM
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really?
Paul22000 said:
I would rather get new ROM updates from Cyanogen etc rather than waiting months and months and months on end for HTC to update (example: what version are Heros running? )
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makes sense, i had a thought about the delayed update cycle too, and since the Nexus is directly google's baby it'll always get them updates first i reckon.
If you don't have any APNs (access point names), then it won't be able to connect to any data services.
If you buy one without any contract it won't have any APN settings anyway, so as long as you don't add any, you'll be fine
One point though - I don't think wi-fi stay connected when the phone is sleeping (unlike GPRS/3G), so I'm not sure any background syncing will work very well.
I could be wrong about this, but when I have wi-fi on and sleep/switch off the screen it takes a few seconds to re-connect to wi-fi after I switch it back on again, so I assume it's off when sleeping. Maybe if you don't have any other data connection it will stay on?
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If you don't have any APNs (access point names), then it won't be able to connect to any data services.
If you buy one without any contract it won't have any APN settings anyway, so as long as you don't add any, you'll be fine
One point though - I don't think wi-fi stay connected when the phone is sleeping (unlike GPRS/3G), so I'm not sure any background syncing will work very well.
I could be wrong about this, but when I have wi-fi on and sleep/switch off the screen it takes a few seconds to re-connect to wi-fi after I switch it back on again, so I assume it's off when sleeping. Maybe if you don't have any other data connection it will stay on?
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did you actually set WiFi to NEVER turn off??
wifi settings->menu->advanced
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i am next to wifi 90% of the day, so it doesn't really matter
but there's no way to just disable DATA over EDGE or 3G?
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not data entirely from what i can find whilst keeping the phone service on.
dondian said:
Sorry for hijack
If i turn heptic feedback off (hate it!), my softkeys don't vibrate anymore..
BUT.. everytime i unlock the phone, it still vibrates.. Is there any way to turn it off (i can't stand it)?
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not from any settings in the phone you would have to ask a developer to either make an application or figure it out yourself
APNdroid rocks!
acidblade said:
I use APNdroid on market. works fine. you can turn on and off 3G whenever you like
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Like acidblade said, APNdroid will turn off cellular data without interrupting phone/sms service. It also has an option for leaving MMS on if you want.
I'm on a prepaid SIM in Italy and it's an awesome app. It's free and has a widget for turning on/off data in case you are away from wifi and need momentary web access. All it does is add "apndroid" at the end of the APN name so that the phone can't connect to the web unless you want it to. Perfect for prepaid users like myself and the OP.
-Cuzoe
Bravo has less RAM than N1. Also you are forgetting that the N1 WILL be able to run Sense or even Espresso UI and FASTER than Bravo (beacuse of more RAM) via a custom ROM.
Hi
I've been reading xda threads for long now and I have always wondered if there was a way to transform a smartphone into a basic phone. Let me explain myself.
I own an HTC HD2 and I'm really satisfied with it's big screen, power, ... I live in a house with electricity cool and thus charging it every 1 or 2 days is not a real problem. But once a while I have to live a fews days or a week without electricity (for example holidays like a one week camping), but I still have to receive a few important phone calls.
I'm using Android right now and this led me to think of a linux build (for example launched from WM) that would only enable us to browse our contacts directory and manage phone calls. The interface would be very simple, without beautiful effects, and I guess it would be possible for the battery to last very long this way, since most of the apps launched on powerful OS would not even be included. There would be not slidings, no transparency, and everything that require power.
I'm sorry if such a topic exists but I took some time to search and nothing appeared. And please don't replay "It is not the purpose of smartphones" since I know that, I've made a choice and I'm satisfied, but I just want to know if there's a way to make it even better.
I'm not (yet?) a developer so what I ask might be unrealistic, but I'm convinced this idea could be useful to most people. There could also be other ways to achieve this, like another OS or just a WM mode...
Don't you think it would be great to be able to switch to this when long battery life is needed ?
dalapigi said:
Hi
I've been reading xda threads for long now and I have always wondered if there was a way to transform a smartphone into a basic phone. Let me explain myself.
I own an HTC HD2 and I'm really satisfied with it's big screen, power, ... I live in a house with electricity cool and thus charging it every 1 or 2 days is not a real problem. But once a while I have to live a fews days or a week without electricity (for example holidays like a one week camping), but I still have to receive a few important phone calls.
I'm using Android right now and this led me to think of a linux build (for example launched from WM) that would only enable us to browse our contacts directory and manage phone calls. The interface would be very simple, without beautiful effects, and I guess it would be possible for the battery to last very long this way, since most of the apps launched on powerful OS would not even be included. There would be not slidings, no transparency, and everything that require power.
I'm sorry if such a topic exists but I took some time to search and nothing appeared. And please don't replay "It is not the purpose of smartphones" since I know that, I've made a choice and I'm satisfied, but I just want to know if there's a way to make it even better.
I'm not (yet?) a developer so what I ask might be unrealistic, but I'm convinced this idea could be useful to most people. There could also be other ways to achieve this, like another OS or just a WM mode...
Don't you think it would be great to be able to switch to this when long battery life is needed ?
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Hello,
That is actually quite interesting, but the first time I have heard of such a query in the 9 months this phone has been released.
Just out of interest, have you tried running the phone with just the standard WM interface to see how long the battery lasts?
Alternative solutions:
1 - You could always try wind-up, or solar charger.
2 - buy the cheapest PAYG phone you can get (on your network)and put your HD2 SIM in it.. These tend to last quite a few days on standby and you don't really care if it gets bashed or wet.
fred_up said:
Alternative solutions:
2 - buy the cheapest PAYG phone you can get (on your network)and put your HD2 SIM in it.. These tend to last quite a few days on standby and you don't really care if it gets bashed or wet.
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could u really do that? </3
@fred_up
Those are nice ideas ! (Infact I've lost my cheap phone recently)
Morpheus, what you mean is WM without sense ? I'm not sure there would be a huge improvement...
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WM without sense ? I'm not sure there would be a huge improvement...
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you can turn Sense off in Settings/More/Today,
and according to BattClock power consumption on my Leo (YMMV) is:
Sense: 100-300 mA
Windows Default: 42 mA
Turning off sense would give you a noticable amount of battery life......
The sense interface is a hungry hungry beast........
The linux idea is nice but the problem is that it would be running on top of windows and therefore not save any battery.........
Luckily I still have my trusty (4 days without a charge) N95........
The old girl still comes in handy...
D4rkSoRRoW said:
could u really do that? </3
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Whenever I break my good phone I just use a T-mobile PAYG phone until I can order a new phone. Or if I'm going camping or biking or something.
nice i will try to disable sense ! thanks for this tip
about linux, i believe i read that wm is completzly shut down when launching android (it only serves as a trigger ?)
Running SPB Mobile Shell, I lose 1% of battery life every 3 hours on standy. That's with data and wifi turned off and just the phone running. That would give me about 300 hours of standby time. In theory that should last you a week with a few short calls.
Problem with Android/Ubuntu on this phone right now is you have to run it off the sd card, which draws a lot more power. Whenever the screen is on it draws a lot of power anyway. The best I've done so far is 6% drain over 8 hours with just the phone running in standby.
The most obvious/best solution for you is to just bring an old dumb phone instead or as backup. Then you can just slip the sim card out and use that to make/receive calls.
Hey guys. sorry if theres a thread like this already. im new to this forum and searched for nearly 3 hours but didnt find much of what i was looking for.
i have a t-mobile 1024 Hd2 with a custom windows mobile ROM LEO_firestorm_v7.4.23135-FX
and a android ROM (installed to SD)
mattcfroyo 1.5
and i also have setcpu installed. the phone(and both rom's) work great. the only issue is the battery life. my phone even when i would barely use it would maybe make it about 12 hours on a charge(doing very little web browsing, turning wifi/ bluetooth off when not in use, brightness around 30%). what have you guys done to get better battery life? should i install different ROMS? is there a WM rom that is basically barebones so it takes less resources and improves battery life? i dont care what the WM side looks like as i only want to use android anyways. i want to use Android as my main OS and how should i setup setcpu? really sorry if this thread is a repeat. if there is another asking exactly what i am please give me a link. im very new to this, so guides are very appreciated aswell.
i did find the thread "HOW TO: Wipe Battery stats to improve battery life" and ill be trying that. what i mainly want to know is how to guys have your roms and setcpu setup.
links to better roms/guides etc. are very appreciated. thanks allot guys.
any rom needs to be compatible with the 1024 hd2 though.
Hi and welcome to XDA,
I've my phone set up as shown in my signature. I don't use bluetooth, basically have no calls, some texts and fairly heavy browsing (web, tapatalk pro, newsrob pro) when I'm on the train. I have a 3mA-5mA drainage in standby. My phone will last 10-12 hours on a charge, after which I have to plug it in. I'm kinda used to it now, but last week I thought I'd give UltimateJuice a try. My phone lasted a little over 17hrs, though I probably used it a bit less intensive that day. The days after I got about 14-15 hours a day with regular use.
I have JuiceDefender installed, which also manages cpu speed. Basically it allows the cpu up to 614 Mhz when the phone is sleeping and 1190 Mhz when awake. Screen brightness is set to 15% currently. When I'm at home, JuiceDefender switches WiFi on automatically, when I'm outside it connects to 3G every 15 minute during 1 minute (adjustable).
Drainage is still somewhat heavier compared to WM, but I can live with it.
Sincerely,
Mac
looks like i found a solution today. last night i underclocked my cpu to 700mhz and i have not seen any performance difference and the battery is lasting allot longer. i have been using it moderately and the battery has gone down 8% in 3 hours of use which is already allot better than before.
i checked my battery power and after it was fully charged it showed 4.2mah so i knew that wasnt the problem. does anybody have the problem that their contacts(in android) are removed if they soft reset their phone? and if so does saving contacts to sim work to fix it? thanks
adrenalinechild said:
does anybody have the problem that their contacts(in android) are removed if they soft reset their phone? and if so does saving contacts to sim work to fix it? thanks
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No, that doesn't sound familiar. Are you syncing your contacts with your Google account?
Sincerely,
Mac
Sent from my reborn HD2 using Tapatalk Pro
no i just manually put in a few to my phone. does saving contacts to sim work in android on the hd2?
adrenalinechild said:
no i just manually put in a few to my phone. does saving contacts to sim work in android on the hd2?
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yes it does, but why don't you have all your contacts sync with google?
roloracer said:
yes it does, but why don't you have all your contacts sync with google?
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backup everything before you do this though. it's known to cause crash at startup and you won't be able to use your android again.
im having a problem with my hd2. i made a call today. and all the incoming voice sounded like a decepticon. kinda cool but definately not useful to actually talking to a person. what should i do to fix this? is it the rom i am using?
adrenalinechild said:
im having a problem with my hd2. i made a call today. and all the incoming voice sounded like a decepticon. kinda cool but definately not useful to actually talking to a person. what should i do to fix this? is it the rom i am using?
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it's a known issue. read the faq.
Hai,
Since nobody bothered to answer my call to track down what drains the battery I decided to just post my findings and you do with it whatever you like...
In recent couple of months I've been experiencing quite nice battery life, almost a week on standby, which is basically on par with original LG ROM. The trick is simple:
It's happening as long as the Gallery app is NOT running.
I don't know what this piece of software does but when it's loaded to memory it stays in there and ignores attempts to terminate it, doesn't sleep when phone wants to and eats battery in a matter of single day. Unfortunately it seems some other apps use it directly or indirectly, like when Wi-Fi starts and/or by Market for example. Thus my solution is just to force close the Gallery after I finish activities which seem to require it.
I don't know whether root of the problem is with the app itself (like, CM modifications made so it's more cool, at the price) or it's just something else unearthed by certain SwiftDroid's configuration. To anyone who wishes to furher investigate my sincerest good luck. And I'd be grateful if results were published too.
hmskrecik said:
Hai,
Since nobody bothered to answer my call to track down what drains the battery I decided to just post my findings and you do with it whatever you like...
In recent couple of months I've been experiencing quite nice battery life, almost a week on standby, which is basically on par with original LG ROM. The trick is simple:
It's happening as long as the Gallery app is NOT running.
I don't know what this piece of software does but when it's loaded to memory it stays in there and ignores attempts to terminate it, doesn't sleep when phone wants to and eats battery in a matter of single day. Unfortunately it seems some other apps use it directly or indirectly, like when Wi-Fi starts and/or by Market for example. Thus my solution is just to force close the Gallery after I finish activities which seem to require it.
I don't know whether root of the problem is with the app itself (like, CM modifications made so it's more cool, at the price) or it's just something else unearthed by certain SwiftDroid's configuration. To anyone who wishes to furher investigate my sincerest good luck. And I'd be grateful if results were published too.
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i deleted this slow sh** from /system/app and installed QuickPic!
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almost a week on standby
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Are you joking? Should i use my phone as a doorstop,or what else?
EDIT: And,an old trick: when an app stays opened,to prevent it to reload again you have to delete his user data (works with Maps and Gmail too)
Eth4n said:
Are you joking? Should i use my phone as a doorstop,or what else?
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You do with your phone what it damned pleases you. In case you haven't noticed the battery life is most often reported as either standby time or call time. In my typical usage battery lasts no less than two or three days but what 'typical usage' means may mean totally different things to me and to you.
Eth4n said:
EDIT: And,an old trick: when an app stays opened,to prevent it to reload again you have to delete his user data (works with Maps and Gmail too)
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Hm, even more shotgun approach to what I described. Having user data could be the primary reason for keeping the app installed. But thanks for tip anyway, may come handy one day.
There is gr8 app on xda, better batery state. With this app you can see what aplication keep wake lock, use cpu, gps, etc...
I've got a problem with my S8 which is running latest, official, non-rooted XEO firmware. Specifically, it uses battery like crazy and heats up whilst doing nothing. This smells like a virus / malware infection or just... well, the last update was in December 2021 so it's also possible some system component is wonky OR... <shivers> some rootkit? I'm generally rather careful when installing apps, most of which will be coming in from official sources (Google Store) or at least fairly trusted sources.
Every so often I'll get a warning that a system component is using too much CPU and I should restart the phone - which obviously doesn't help at all. Also the battery drain is reported primarily by Android System and System Core (29 and 15% respectively). Battery usage stats generally don't add up because the listings don't add up to 100%. :/
I know the S8 is an old phone... and I know there are probably steps I should take prior to asking here - like a factory reset. But I'm really sceptical of doing a factory reset simply because I've got so much stuff on the phone that, while not impossible to backup, is certainly annoying (authenticator or banking apps for example - and I don't think the standard backup tools like those available from Google or Samsung backup such apps).
So I'd rather try some solutions or methods of dealing with the damned thing without resetting the phone first. Is there anything I can do?
You need to find the root cause. It may be a 3rd party using one or more of the Samsung system apps running under Android services, lol Legend for there are many... all lumped together.
A firewall with logging can help. Karma Firewall is what I use, uses almost no battery. Being rooted you have more options... use them.
Malware is always a possibility.
3rd party apps can cause hell. I don't allow any social media apps on the phone, ever.
Try in safe mode... if things calm down it's likely a 3rd party app. If so start going through the installed apps.
Clear system cache.
blackhawk said:
You need to find the root cause. It may be a 3rd party using one or more of the Samsung system apps running under Android services, lol Legend for there are many... all lumped together.
A firewall with logging can help. Karma Firewall is what I use, uses almost no battery.
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Will try that, thanks!
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Being rooted you have more options... use them.
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The phone is NON-rooted.
blackhawk said:
Malware is always a possibility.
3rd party apps can cause hell. I don't allow any social media apps on the phone, ever.
Try in safe mode... if things calm down it's likely a 3rd party app. If so start going through the installed apps.
Clear system cache.
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Oh, safe mode! I'll try that too! Thanks!
Shaamaan said:
Will try that, thanks!
The phone is NON-rooted.
Oh, safe mode! I'll try that too! Thanks!
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Sorry about the root thing, my bad.
If you're running on Android 9 or lower Karma Firewall's logging feature is fully active otherwise not. Samsung store>Galaxy Labs> Battery Tracker can be useful.
I use Accubattery's history page to get a quick idea of charge/discharge rates.
I use Device Care>storage>clean as well.
Make sure no cloud apps are running in the background.
Update: in safe mode the phone doesn't heat up and battery usage seems normal. So it's probably some app.
Alas, the firewall wasn't very helpful - it seemed that apps that attempted accessing the internet were your usual suspects - Play Store, One Drive or other sync apps, Vanced.
Any other suggestions on possibly nailing down the culprit?
PS. I've also decided to send Samsung an error report via the Members app - I don't know what their reply times are and I honestly don't expect much from them but who knows? Perhaps they'll come through.
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Update: in safe mode the phone doesn't heat up and battery usage seems normal. So it's probably some app.
Alas, the firewall wasn't very helpful - it seemed that apps that attempted accessing the internet were your usual suspects - Play Store, One Drive or other sync apps, Vanced.
Any other suggestions on possibly nailing down the culprit?
PS. I've also decided to send Samsung an error report via the Members app - I don't know what their reply times are and I honestly don't expect much from them but who knows? Perhaps they'll come through.
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Why other than maybe text messages is anything syncing? Take out the trash and go from there.
The ones that are connecting every minute or more when not open are prime suspects.
Some apps like Brave browser need to be closed out when not in use or they eat battery.
You can also try a hard reboot.
Update!
I left the phone in safe mode overnight. I mean, it seemed like things were better, so at least I'd have a stable phone.
Well, in the morning I was greeted with a severely depleted battery (went from 100 to 40 in the span of 6 hours) and I got the "high CPU usage" warning popup. The phone wasn't as hot to the touch tho.
So... Whatever is going on seems to happen also in safe mode, albeit less often? Or perhaps it's less "severe" where it doesn't heat up the phone but the drain is still there? But since safe mode is affected it's probably NOT an app, right?
At this point I'm completely baffled. Any other ideas?
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Update!
I left the phone in safe mode overnight. I mean, it seemed like things were better, so at least I'd have a stable phone.
Well, in the morning I was greeted with a severely depleted battery (went from 100 to 40 in the span of 6 hours) and I got the "high CPU usage" warning popup. The phone wasn't as hot to the touch tho.
So... Whatever is going on seems to happen also in safe mode, albeit less often? Or perhaps it's less "severe" where it doesn't heat up the phone but the drain is still there? But since safe mode is affected it's probably NOT an app, right?
At this point I'm completely baffled. Any other ideas?
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Hard reset... hold power button until it powers off.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services at night, see what that does.
OK, I'm baffled. I feel like I didn't really do anything but the phone is now running fine. Battery drain now might be better than ever!
Warms up on usage, obviously, but when idle it's nice and cool and battery drain seems minimal. I'll... leave it for a few days to see how this develops. It's very difficult to tell what the heck's the case here.
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OK, I'm baffled. I feel like I didn't really do anything but the phone is now running fine. Battery drain now might be better than ever!
Warms up on usage, obviously, but when idle it's nice and cool and battery drain seems minimal. I'll... leave it for a few days to see how this develops. It's very difficult to tell what the heck's the case here.
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Retrace what you did. Reason being you may need to do it again. Really most times all you need to do is just "play" with it a bit (a lot). Almost impossible to crash a stock load, so explore and learn by playing with it. You are what you load and download; be careful with 3rd party apps they are the biggest potential hazards.
Once you have a fast, stable OS that's fulfilling its mission, let it be. Don't update or upgrade it.
Updates can and do break Sammy's. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load is over 2yo. Rock solid stable and it runs like a bat out of hell with minimal maintenance. Security isn't an issue.
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Retrace what you did. Reason being you may need to do it again. Really most times all you need to do is just "play" with it a bit (a lot). Almost impossible to crash a stock load, so explore and learn by playing with it. You are what you load and download; be careful with 3rd party apps they are the biggest potential hazards.
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I have a suspicion this might have been some Samsung app (my bet's on Bixby) since those are likely still able to run in Safe Mode that got updated and then fixed...? Does that make sense?
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Once you have a fast, stable OS that's fulfilling its mission, let it be. Don't update or upgrade it.
Updates can and do break Sammy's. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load is over 2yo. Rock solid stable and it runs like a bat out of hell with minimal maintenance. Security isn't an issue.
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I'm concerned about the last bit. I mean, upgrading to a new Android version is one thing but security updates are common, no?
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I have a suspicion this might have been some Samsung app (my bet's on Bixby) since those are likely still able to run in Safe Mode that got updated and then fixed...? Does that make sense?
I'm concerned about the last bit. I mean, upgrading to a new Android version is one thing but security updates are common, no?
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Kill wittle bixby... you read it EULA?☠
It's more than one apk though. Takes a while to optimize a Sammy the first time
Well... if it's set up and used right Android 9 will run securely in the real world. No saving dumb bunnies anyway; they'll still get tagged even with the latest version
The proof is in my hand. Loaded over 2+ years ago and this N10+ UI version 1.5 is running clean like a bat out of hell. If I do get malware I can't erraticate in an hour or so, factory reset and change passwords.
My data is redundantly backed* up 4+ times, plus the onboard SD card used as a data drive. I'm ready to reload right now if I have to...
A malware forced reload is still less trouble than constantly updating and having the updates screw things up. That means more troubleshooting, finding new work arounds and still maybe needing a factory reset on top of all that. No.
Not vaxed either... not buying the hype.
*critical data must be redundantly backed up or sooner or latter it will likely be lost. Never encrypt data drives as you are the most likely to be locked out!
blackhawk said:
Kill wittle bixby... you read it EULA?☠
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Oh I'd love that - but it's a system app and removing those without root is kind of... impossible? I can look into disabling it completely however - I never use it anyway. Since it's not a single app - any chance you got a link to the list of apps that need manual disabling?
Anyway, I'm still getting those damned warnings. The phone isn't constantly hot however, which is some improvement.
Shaamaan said:
Oh I'd love that - but it's a system app and removing those without root is kind of... impossible? I can look into disabling it completely however - I never use it anyway. Since it's not a single app - any chance you got a link to the list of apps that need manual disabling?
Anyway, I'm still getting those damned warnings. The phone isn't constantly hot however, which is some improvement.
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Package Disabler kills bixby proper.
You can also disable it with an adb edit. That's one of the first things I do.
Bixby is a hot mess best dump along the interstate... like Google Assistant it needs external servers for many of its functions. I may change my mind but it's eula is like eating dry hardtack for breakfast.