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hi chaps,
i recently got myself an evo 4g and was contemplating a screen protector. then i came across some videos on YouTube proclaiming just how tough the gorilla glass (?) on the evo is and withstood all kinds of torture.
anyway, in the spirit of finding out for myself, i tried the same thing to my phone and i definitely suggest not trying it yourself. The screen most definitely does scratch. Now we now.
Link below to see the video and pics.
http://asmd.wordpress.com/2011/05/17/a-blade-to-the-belly-of-the-beast/
regards,
asmd.
asmd6230 said:
hi chaps,
i recently got myself an evo 4g and was contemplating a screen protector. then i came across some videos on YouTube proclaiming just how tough the gorilla glass (?) on the evo is and withstood all kinds of torture.
anyway, in the spirit of finding out for myself, i tried the same thing to my phone and i definitely suggest not trying it yourself. The screen most definitely does scratch. Now we now.
Link below to see the video and pics.
http://asmd.wordpress.com/2011/05/17/a-blade-to-the-belly-of-the-beast/
regards,
asmd.
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i already knew it scratched hell iv even broke the screen on my first evo so yea my keys have scratched my screen however you can see it. it doesnt make it look bad or aweful in anyway just notice it under certain angles so kind of dumb to ruin yours to do this test could have just asked if anyone had scratchs on their screen and to take pictures
Ok, so, you went from "I should get a screen protector!" to "I'm gonna take a razor blade to this *****!" in the span of a youtube video?!
Jesus man, I hope to god you don't find out about failblog or else your hospital bills are going to be ridiculous.
ha ha!!
nah man... i was considering a screen protector. Always had one on my HD2 and Touch Diamond. But then i got to reading about how tough the glass was.. and then the YouTube videos. I though to myself, this is brilliant., no screen protector needed.
I initially tried with just the corners and there were no scratches, after which i figured let me catch the main test on video just for sake of it.
now, with what i did to my Evo, the outcome should have be the same as those other chaps who posted on Youtube, but i got a couple of scratches which i took pictures of.... what i proved was that its highly unlikely those Evos came away undamaged or theres something fishy going on.
Btw, im probably not going to use a screen protector. If anything, maybe a slip case. I mean, after all that coin scratching, scicssors scoring and blade cutting, it only came away with two scratches. The second was small enough that i found it hard to take a picture of. The one i could take a picture of is noticeable if viewed from a particular angle. Looking at it head on in normal use is not noticeable.
Plus if it does get that bad, the screens go for $20 bucks on ebay...
but then again, there is the question of resale though.... hhhmmm.
Anyway, i looked on the net and all i got was confused answers, take it from me chaps this is definitive. And ive got the scratch to prove it.
regards,
asmd.
Haha. You said chaps....... I remember the glass on my *gasp* blackberry storm being tough. I scratched it with everything and never once noticed anything. Never tried with my evo. Just too sexy of a phone
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where are you from out of curiosity?
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Some times the cheap ones work the best screen protector wise check out extreme guard or few others eBay there cheap and work well. I'm using a Kraken case to keep my new phone mint.
I have a watch that has a saphire crystal that is supposed to be unscratchble. I used to demo it when drunk rubbing the face on concrete. Well one night it actually did scratch, and it was a biggin. Luckily Rado replaced it for me free of charge. Lesson learned.
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btw, which screen protector has the most glass like feel to it in use?
ive consistently come across posts complaining about zaggs tacky feel and yellowing... so, which reigns as king of the hill of screen protectors?
i wish i could remember what mine was on the hd2. feels pretty nice and no discoloration.
Hmmm failblog sounds interesting......
I.... wouldn't have tried this. XD
halorin said:
I.... wouldn't have tried this. XD
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now that i have, you will never have to.
its just something i was really curious about. the youtube videos seemed so unlikely but technology does advance and i wanted to personally put it to the test.
no regrets.
its just a phone. nothing last forever.
and as a mate put it, i go through mobile devices faster than he updates his facebook status.
asmd6230 said:
btw, which screen protector has the most glass like feel to it in use?
ive consistently come across posts complaining about zaggs tacky feel and yellowing... so, which reigns as king of the hill of screen protectors?
i wish i could remember what mine was on the hd2. feels pretty nice and no discoloration.
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I like the boxwave clear touch protector, lasts a long time a.d feels pretty close to the glass
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I thought the gorrila glass was pretty tough until i bought some earrings and i had scratches all over my phone
I use my phone naked since there's no way I'm putting a case on such a huge phone.
It's stood up really well, actually. I've dropped it on concrete a few times and the only noticeable signs are some indents on the plastic around the outer rim.
Though if you look closely, there's little chips missing from my screen. You could definitely scratch it pretty badly without too much effort in my opinion.
My phone has a zagg screen protector on it and I don't have any yellowing issues... however if your fingers are oily or wet (duh most peoples are ) then yeah it can have a tacky sort of feel. I usually just do a quick wipe of my index finger on my jeans before I touch my screen.
Hazelfoot said:
I use my phone naked since there's no way I'm putting a case on such a huge phone.
It's stood up really well, actually. I've dropped it on concrete a few times and the only noticeable signs are some indents on the plastic around the outer rim.
Though if you look closely, there's little chips missing from my screen. You could definitely scratch it pretty badly without too much effort in my opinion.
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i get the case thing. i had an otterbox defender series on my phone with out much trouble til it became to stretched to hit the buttons correctly kinda disappointing i guess im glad i used a gift card to try it out. The screen protectors that came with are not bad but my phone is back to being completely naked ( oh noeesss!! ) but it seems to be fine.
glass wise no i wouldn't of tried this carrying this no shalantly in my pocket has shown its wear on the screen from random things in my pocket even though i "try" to keep it in its own pocket
Thank you OP for test and results, this answers some questions
wynnemelvin said:
I thought the gorrila glass was pretty tough until i bought some earrings and i had scratches all over my phone
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stones in earring i would expect are much harder than the glass of the screen and would undoubtedly scratch.
NewZJ said:
Thank you OP for test and results, this answers some questions
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your welcome.
a thank you is always appreciated.
i knew those boob tube videos were too good to be true.
im still going to keep it nude, after all thats scratching a couple of scratches.. i'll take my chances. plus i'll just have to remember to keep blades and scissors out of my pocket.
regards,
asmd.
I've noticed 4 distinct 'scuffs' or 'stains' that appear to be under my glass. I don't know how else to describe them. I didn't notice them when I first got the phone, but you can only see them at a good angle where there's no glare, so the may have always been there. Now I can't *not* notice them. I'll try to post a picture tonight, it's a bit hard to photograph. I think if someone has it they would know what I'm talking about...
Does it kind of look like a gel substance underneath the glass?
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Hmmm maybe.. if I took a micro-drop of gel or glue and pressed it.... i'll try to post a pic later tonight.
its the oleophobic coating peeling off i think
Okay here are two pics of two of these things. I have four of them. I scratch and rub them and nothing, as if they are just beneath the surface...
From what I'm seeing it just looks like a scuff or scratch. I had a palm pixie before and it had the same markings on it.. Idk what it is.
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I had something similar on my previous Nexus S. I think it's made from steam settling under glass.
I am on my second handset (Sprint) San Antonio, TX and both have had screen issues... I did notice something quite similar to your issue on my current handset but mine resides closer to the ear piece and camera... besides that I'm also experiencing the keyboard ghosting issue very visible when I open my notification menu.... I'm kinda hesitant to get a replacement since thus far my screens issues have only doubled ...
Neverland ranch
This is the oleophobic layer wearing off
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deeren said:
This is the oleophobic layer wearing off
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He is correct, mine is doing the same thing. Look at it this way, at least the top of your screen isn't separating, mine flexes'and'goes up and down under minimal pressure and makes all kinds of noise, its weird.
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deeren said:
This is the oleophobic layer wearing off
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I think this seems to be the most likely scenario from my google research and comparison of other pics. Ugh. Hopefully it won't get worse. What's the replacement/repair policy? Call Samsung or take it to Best Buy ? It's been over 30 days.
Definitely not scuff marks, I keep the thing in a sock and treat it like gold.
I am currently on hold waiting for a rep at Samsung.....it has been 1 hour and 45 minutes and I have not talked to anyone... so if calling Samsung is what you opt to do ... get yourself a samwich and a six pack before hand!!
So I finally got through to a rep.... and they said...
JK... I gave up after 5 hour hold.(seriously) ...and decided the issue was minimal at this point
Neverland ranch
I have similar problems, except it'll only show if I breath moist air on to it. If you cover it up with a decent screen protector, it should go away unless the mark is really deep.
Thoughts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnwwz0nyOno&feature=player_embedded
My thoughts are: turn the damn screens off so we can see any scratches easier...
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It is somewhat hard to see from the video if the screens were scratched however I am sure that what he did left its mark on both phones even though it may be fine scratches...
Why anyone would do a test like this using a knife to stab the phone is beyond me. Not really a accurate way of displaying a situation our beloved smartphones would be in. I do not for see my brand new Samsung Galaxy S3 being stabbed by a knife or cut ever!!!
hahahhaha no doubt eh?
I just can't even imagine doing that to my new phone once I get it.
I have the SGS I now (just over 2 years) and have never used a screen protector.
Im pretty careful with my phone.
This makes me a bit more secure with my objections to using a screen cover.
this guy is funny
sand or small pieces of stone scratch the gorilla glass.
Who the ?*#$ would go and cut his phone with a knife.....? Cmon i have seen better strarch tests^^....as about water resistant test, he just wants to have only one phone, so he is gonna test them untill one dies
stop comparing and start using it
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this guy is funny
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He is funny alright, especially when after doing the water test his iPhone 4S dies.
And then makes this video:
bit.ly/Kr97Ec
Crack up...
what a guy! That is hilarious though.....
Dont think I will be trying any of these tests!
This one is pretty hilarious actually!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIi5U3MFdLg&feature=related
Just wanted to say that I've noticed a lot of posts saying how fragile the SGS3 is, now I don't know if I'm lucky or if those who's s3s have broken are just unlucky but I've had an awful lot of accidents with mine the past few weeks, including dropping it on hard concrete from my ear (about 5 foot 9 inches) a few times, dropping it down the stairs, dropping it onto a bedside lamp that I'd places in the floor during a sort out (my S3 actually smashed the lamp stand lol).
The only problem with my S3 is 2 small scratches on the bezel.
So is the S3 so fragile afterall or am I just lucky?
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I agree, this thing is hardcore. I went to sit in my friends car, as I was sitting I was closing the door and my phone fell out of my pocket and shut the phone in the door. I was wtf just happened. Then the phone fell to the ground when I opened the door. The stock battery got twisted and battery cover was scratched. I turned it on everything worked, no scratches on the screen. Two hours later my case came in the mail. I ended up buying two qcell batteries from Amazon.com. I was able to straighten the battery out a bit. That thing still works...
I don't think you're lucky, just a really nice device...
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I don't see any posts about how sturdy it is so I assumed it was extremely fragile
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There are posts in this forum and other site saying cracks on the bezel:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823328
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1704533
I have never thought a mobile phone may survive from several feet falling, but I would not expect my phone cover material crack after several months usage. I have noticed that these posts have been started a month ago, and not seen so much post complaint the same issue. Just hope it is only some sort of manufacture defect batch, otherwise this is major headache for Samsung according to the production size of Galaxy S3.
Well I am liable for a direct exchange via courier anytime I want as long as I only do it once, so I'm waiting until I find the right case and screen protector for me then I'll do the exchange and have a scratch-free phone.
I also have a few small scratches on the screen that were caused by sand when I was on holiday.
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CuBz90 said:
Just wanted to say that I've noticed a lot of posts saying how fragile the SGS3 is, now I don't know if I'm lucky or if those who's s3s have broken are just unlucky but I've had an awful lot of accidents with mine the past few weeks, including dropping it on hard concrete from my ear (about 5 foot 9 inches) a few times, dropping it down the stairs, dropping it onto a bedside lamp that I'd places in the floor during a sort out (my S3 actually smashed the lamp stand lol).
The only problem with my S3 is 2 small scratches on the bezel.
So is the S3 so fragile afterall or am I just lucky?
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Jeez, you only got 2 fingers or something lol.
I dropped my phone 5 times already (a few pretty nasty falls) and it is perfect, no scratches. I am pretty sure an iPhone would be destroyed quickly in my hands
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Jeez, you only got 2 fingers or something lol.
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I'm extremely clumsy, plus I have an involuntary habit of throwing everything up in the air and catching it (and sometimes not catching it lol), sometimes my mind just drifts off and without realising I start throwing my phone in the air and catching it, which sometimes results in my dropping it
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Butter fingers confessional thread?! I've seen it all now!
After seeing how much Apple are paying for witnesses, I wouldn't be surprised if they pay people to make the GS3 look bad in forums. Or I wouldn't put it past HTC One X fans doing it voluntarily for free.
CuBz90 said:
I'm extremely clumsy, plus I have an involuntary habit of throwing everything up in the air and catching it (and sometimes not catching it lol), sometimes my mind just drifts off and without realising I start throwing my phone in the air and catching it, which sometimes results in my dropping it
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Lol I do that myself. Normally with the Sky+ remote. And my HTC sensation phone, when I had it.
I thought the phone was just fragile too. Loads of people on here complaining. Don't wanna risk it though.
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pardoned said:
Lol I do that myself. Normally with the Sky+ remote. And my HTC sensation phone, when I had it.
I thought the phone was just fragile too. Loads of people on here complaining. Don't wanna risk it though.
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The sky+ remote is perfect for throwing in the air, its probably a design feature!
Oh and taking the battery cover off and putting it back on again over and over...
Good times.....
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Ye me too, the remote is the thing I throw the most I have no idea why I have this habit but my fiancee hates it, mostly because we're on our 3rd remote now due to the other 2 getting broken
When I threw my phone up and didn't catch it, it landed in my lamp and smashed it, me and my fiancee couldn't help but laugh at the fact a so called "fragile" phone smashed a thick porcelain lamp with no damage to the phone
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Check the Drag test... Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30079682
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scratch test passing already expected.
drop test was situational, would survive without breakage depending on how it lands.
water drop test was unexpected. was glad it oculd survive.
thanks.
why am I seeing so many cracked screens on ebay and among friends?
I'm just curious, because I am considering getting a GS3 and I have seen firsthand quite a few with cracked up screens, not quite as bad and the iphone folks, but I don't want to get another phone that is going to break on me without even dropping it.
I was walking out to roll up my windows and went to put my phone, without the case on it, in my shirt pocket and I missed the pocket and there it went.. smacked the concrete landing on I believe the top right corner and mostly the back side.. The back battery cover is all scratched up but no big deal.. I immediately put my otterbox commuter case on it like I should have had on anyways.. now believe it or not, I used it the rest of that day and till about 3pm the next day and I was just scrolling down my Facebook news feed when I felt my phone click.. I started looking at it like whaattt? Well, whataya know? My screen I guess finally gave in and a crack formed across the upper right quarter of the screen. From the LED Indicator to the Power Button.. The Digitiser and LED seem ok though. Just seemed odd to crack like that kind of outta nowhere like it did. Maybe my case caused some pressure on my weakened screen after dropping it and the screen just gave up? I've seen things like that happen before but not like this.
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I guess you've all been kinda lucky by now...
I've dropped mine 4 times from my pocket onto concrete and can't count the times I've fell asleep and dropped it out my hand and all I've got is a few scratches on the $4 TPU case.
I'm not sure if anyone else does this, but if you're agile enough, try to get your foot under the phone before it hits the ground to cushion the blow... I know I've saved the phone on quite a few occasions by doing this!
Pulled up to 7-11 this morning for some coffee, One was on my lap, parked, opened door, got out, SLAP!!! It fell face down flush with the ground (asphalt). I think I stared at it on the ground for about 3 minutes, before my eyes teared up I decided to face my fears and pick it up. The glass was perfect, no scratches, nicks, or cracks... I was VERY surprised. It fell hard, the aluminum on all 4 corners does have a nick in it, but the glass was fine.... Awesome.
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You got lucky!
I think because all 4 corners are chipped, most of the force was distributed and saved your screen.
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I did exactly that same time of morning and everything with my DNA but it landed vertical on a corner and cracked into a shattered spider web. Glad yours came out better.
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Did the same thing with my HOX, was jogging and it fell out of my bag, nearly gave myself a hernia!
It was okay though, phew!
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Pulled up to 7-11 this morning for some coffee, One was on my lap, parked, opened door, got out, SLAP!!! It fell face down flush with the ground (asphalt). I think I stared at it on the ground for about 3 minutes, before my eyes teared up I decided to face my fears and pick it up. The glass was perfect, no scratches, nicks, or cracks... I was VERY surprised. It fell hard, the aluminum on all 4 corners does have a nick in it, but the glass was fine.... Awesome.
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Now is the time to run out to ATT and pick up a nice Otterbox Commuter trust me you will be happy and it will hide the nicks
Glad your device survived that was a hard post to read
nullkill said:
Now is the time to run out to ATT and pick up a nice Otterbox Commuter trust me you will be happy and it will hide the nicks
Glad your device survived that was a hard post to read
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Forget the Otterbox, if you can get this instead go for it.
I bought one the other day and it is easily comparable to the Otterbox.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00BQZD4CE/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
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The-Last-Hylian said:
Did the same thing with my HOX, was jogging and it fell out of my bag, nearly gave myself a hernia!
It was okay though, phew!
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The One X is tough. I've dropped it on my hardwood floor many times, phone still looks great. Tiny dent on the bottom. Still upgrading to a One though, I'll just be more careful.
I did the same a few weeks back , is anyone going to attempt to replace the speaker covers where the dents are ?
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That's awesome.
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Seriously, you just got lucky. The glass WILL shatter if you drop it face down. Had dropped my Note II on the face and luckily got away with it too. But more often that not it does break. Take care of it better next time though
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Forget the Otterbox, if you can get this instead go for it.
I bought one the other day and it is easily comparable to the Otterbox.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00BQZD4CE/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
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that has to be the ugliest case ive ever seen... lmao
I was shoved down a flight of steps yesterday by an inconsiderate schoolboy, and there are now two large cracks across the screen of my phone. While the phone still works, I want to replace the screen and speaker grilles. Fingers crossed, hopefully HTC knows how to fix this.
Sodalitas said:
I was shoved down a flight of steps yesterday by an inconsiderate schoolboy, and there are now two large cracks across the screen of my phone. While the phone still works, I want to replace the screen and speaker grilles. Fingers crossed, hopefully HTC knows how to fix this.
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i hope you drop kicked that devil and send the parents a bill.
He was alone, I yelled at him, he cried, I relented. I'm weak like that. Ah well.
Seems the 4 corners of the phone are slightly raised as I dropped mine face down and only one corner has a little nick.
HTC phones have always been indestructible for me especially the screens. Galaxy s3 and note 2 screens are very fragile.
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that has to be the ugliest case ive ever seen... lmao
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I came here to say that. Hideous.
Exactly how I broke my nexus 4 didn't have that same fate though. Positive thing about that situation is I had a excuse to buy the ONE lol
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that has to be the ugliest case ive ever seen... lmao
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I was just thinking the same.
I'm a fan of the Baseus Slim flip case. It's cheap, good quality and it protects the screen.
I never thought I'd like a flip case but it's actually really unobtrusive and when I'm home I take it out.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=300885232164
I loved the slip case for the Sensation. It was light, thin, aesthetically pleasing and protected the phone really well. I don't understand why HTC didn't continue making them in that style. They went back to the chunky ones with the pull tab for the One X and they don't do a slip case for the One at all. I much prefer being able to feel the lines of such a beautiful device when I'm using it.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=180718618384
I would never have a flip case that holds my bank cards though. Firstly it's very nature makes it larger than necessary but you're also making a very convenient little package and advertisement for muggers and pick pockets. Not clever if you live in a city.
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I gotta ask you something guys.
I'm trying to decide what to buy. Flipcase, pouch or some clear gel case.
I really want to buy a pouch because I don't want to hide this beauty. So my question is; when do you think people drop their phone most? while talking or while taking it out of pocket? I mean if I got pouch it'll protect it if I drop when taking out of my pocket. But It wouldn't help if it was in my hand (obviously)
I always like pouches. All of my phones look like new when I finish with them.
In my opinion, skins don't protect the phone it's so easy to scratch the screen in your pocket and screen protectors look like ****.
Flip covers aren't ideal either. You could easily get keys or loose change between the screen and the flap, when in your pocket.
I like pouches because you hold the phone as it was intended to be and you view it as intended. What's the point of having a beautiful device if it's hidden under layers of gel, leather or plastic? It's like everyone who has an iPhone is always telling me how beautiful it is and that's why they don't want an android phone. Then I ask them the last time they actually saw their beautiful iPhone out of it's case and that makes them think.
The difficulty I'm finding with the One and a slip case is as I pointed out above. HTC made a great slip case for the Sensation but the last few they've made have sucked. I have a One X slip case and it's huge both on the phone and in the hand. I've tried loads of third party slip cases in the past, with other phones, and the main issues are quality and that they're generally ill fitting. Not to mention they often look like crap.
The reason I started buying official HTC cases was that I was sick of buying new cases all the time and I saw one cheap and decided to try it. I have to say that the quality is generally way better with their own cases and I've bought official ever since (I've owned six HTC phones). This time round though I think they've screwed it up. The official cases for the One are too bulky. I want a tight fitting slip case that covers the top of the phone well but is easy enough to remove the phone from to answer quickly.
You also have to consider the material. When I first started buying cases I really didn't want leather and I bought ones made from textiles but they aren't so easy to slip in and out of your pocket. In fact gel cases pretty much grip the material in your pockets, this could cause you to fumble with the phone to get it out of your pocket and drop it. I say that because it has happened to me before and I had a few near misses. So. Anyway. I ended up realising why it makes a lot of sense to go with leather. It's just as easy to get in and out of your pocket as with no case at all.
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