So how many apps do you have? Copy and paste the following and fill it out!
Rom:
User Apps:
Total Apps:
Find user and total apps via titanium!
I'll start
Rom: Bionix-v
User Apps: 83
Total Apps: 203
254/ 81
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Rom: Flagship V4 final
User Apps:8
Total Apps:10
seriously?? 10 total apps! crazy!
Rom: flagship
Apps: 83
Total: 250 something
Bionix V-1.2
70 User apps
189 Total
My phone is recovering from a serious ODIN operation though, which wiped out my backups. I used to have like 300 total apps.
Oxirane said:
Bionix V-1.2
70 User apps
189 Total
My phone is recovering from a serious ODIN operation though, which wiped out my backups. I used to have like 300 total apps.
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Damn those test kernals!
wiped backups?!?! sucks!
is there an app that makes a list of what apps you have? perhaps sync to gmail too?
On axura....titanium report...
All user apps: 174
Total app: 299
Lol...I'm more obsessed with downloading and installing apps than playing with the as pps...lol
I guess this is a misplaced post...but I'm a forum newb and have no posting privileges in the developers forums yet...
From the Nexus One Developers Forum -- Post: [ADDON] T-Mobile WiFi Calling for CyanogenMod 7.0.0 --
"That's not the kind of memory He is talking about. The 228 megs is your RAM. HE IS TALKING ABOUT SYSTEM ROM MEMORY. You can find this info if you look at TITANIUM BACKUP, on the bottom, one of the numbers will be system ROM (as in the partition used for the ROM). The N1 doesn't have much system memory. It can cause issues if you have less than ten mb.
Edit: there are other ways (probably more accurate) to find this info also but, titanium backup is the easiest.
Sent from my NS running NSCollab 1.0.32 cuz I. STILL can't find my tin cans and string ...."
i used root explorer,went in and deleted a bunch of **** i dont use in system/app and i be damned if it didnt work. thanks heaps dude
...so here's my problem...When I fire up Ti Backup I see:
System ROM: 152MB (729kB free)
Internal: 205MB (148 MB free)
SD Card: 7.93 GB (4.01 GB free)
This is after updating to the latest nightly of CM7, and clearing everything but the apps I'm not likely to give up for WiFi calling. My internal space went way up, but there was no change to system rom, which leads me to believe I don't understand what folks were talking about when they refer to system ROM.
How do I go about freeing up 10 MB system rom? It apparently isn't done by deleting apps...
Thanks!
System/apps.
I think more specifically, you have to delete apps that are part of the rom you are running.
best way to see exactly which apps are in the system rom is to use astro.
I just hit up, up until I get to system, then I go to apps.
example. I have torch, as part of the rom I'm using (E-extremeMod 2.0), Using the app manager, i can't uninstall it.(under the all apps setting),.It's part of the ROM. You have to go through a ROM before installing, and delete items you don't want installed.or use Titanium backup.
Titanium backup can force remove the app, using the recovery exploit, but I haven't done it yet. Hard press on the app in the backup/restore area.
I use titanium to delete system apps.
White-user's apps
Red- System's apps
Green- System's apps with useful data (i wouldn't delete anything green).
Use small gapps and down load google apps from market so its installed in data/app instead of system/app.
I deleted also these system apps:
-Adw launcher since I use Adw Ex
-cm wallpapers
-news and weather
-file manager since I use astro and root ex.
-home screen tips
-a few others that I don't use
i am facing sever internal memory problem. A month ago while facing the same issue. It was around 400MB a month ago but it started going down on daily basis. Couple of days ago, it was 113MB and today i am hovering around 100MB.
Did not install any software, instead i am constantly uninstalling them. Checked via settings--->applications--->Manage applications and the largest application i have is "calendar storage" that is taking 46.55MB... facebook takes around 28MB and the if i count all the apps till the size of 1 MB, they are not more than 300MB. i don't think so that the remaining apps having a size of less than a MB will accumulate to 600MB.
Don't know what to do... please suggest...
I think any tries to answer would fail without having more details:
What ROM do you have? What have you tried so far? Can you try a factory reset?
A different ROM, maybe?
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I think any tries to answer would fail without having more details:
What ROM do you have? What have you tried so far? Can you try a factory reset?
A different ROM, maybe?
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using HTC sense... did not root it... factory reset is an option but i am not sure whether it would help... also, anybody with any possible reasons so it can be avoided?
Froyo or Gingerbread?
Could be an app/service with a memory leak.
Maybe there is something corrupted in the system partition.
Did you experience any phone reboots/application crashes?
Do you have the latest over the air software update?
Is the phone up-to-date?
I'm no expert, I'm just trying to help.
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Froyo or Gingerbread?
Could be an app/service with a memory leak.
Maybe there is something corrupted in the system partition.
Did you experience any phone reboots/application crashes?
Do you have the latest over the air software update?
Is the phone up-to-date?
I'm no expert, I'm just trying to help.
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Sense 2.1
Android 2.3.3
Since it's a UK based phone, HTC says 2.3.5 and sense 2.3 will be sent in couple of days.
I did not experience any unexpected reboots/application crash....
All of my software is bought from android market and i keep them updated.
Last night after posting this topic, i deleted couple of apps and the memory was increased to 123MB from 103... just checked now... (after 12hours), its already 116MB with the annoying memory notification on top bar....
I downloaded an app called "diskusage" that shows the following breakdown:
Applications: 296 MB
System Data: 753 MB
Free: 112 MB
As per my understanding, system data is the culprit... is it normal? and any suggestions to fix it?
amnd79 said:
I downloaded an app called "diskusage" that shows the following breakdown:
Applications: 296 MB
System Data: 753 MB
Free: 112 MB
As per my understanding, system data is the culprit... is it normal? and any suggestions to fix it?
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If you would have had root, it would be simple: do a full backup, wipe the device and see if it happens again. If it does, restore from backup, you're back and didn't lose and info. In your case it's quite hard to find the cause.
Not sure you'll be able to find the cause without wiping out.
Maybe uninstalling apps one by one might work? It'll take time.
I have one question because I see you write "memory" but from the discussions it's not clear if you're talking of free RAM of storage space.
Memory normally means RAM but now I think you might be speaking of the storage space.
There is a big difference between the two.
The increase of data is due to apps that save a lot of things and almost never clean
Even when you uninstall
The good behaviour to have is the remove apps through the settings doing first : force stop app (if running) then remove data (which is causing your trouble) then uninstall app and only then
Because if you don't you have to parse manually your data and find what was kleft behind and remove it (requires root)
Download this app and see if it's able to clear a lot of data.
1Tap Cleaner - https://market.android.com/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.acc.free&hl=en
If nothing works, do a factory reset. Just make sure you've ticked both options under Settings>Privacy, so that you'll get back your apps when you sign in with your Google account. Also check that you've saved your contacts as Google contacts. Your SD card won't be erased unless you choose it.
That should clear any redundant files or whatever is hogging your space. It'll be a bit of work to set your phone up again, but it'll be as good as new.
nothing worked, i did the factory reset and memory is back to normal - showing 60MB of system data and 200 MB of application data... mybackup was pretty useful!
thanks all for your suggestions but i believe there was a leakage.
Hi all,
I updated my Nexus 7 to lollipop using the factory image (just to have a fresh start ..), but I noticed the available free space on /system partition is just a few Mb's.
After rooting (just superSu, no busybox) available space is 1.7 Mb and after editing the hosts file it is just 700 kb. I deleted the ringer tones (quite useless on a wifi only tablet) and that gave me 2.5 Mb of extra room. Any other tip to increase the /system free space ? The partition is typically read-only, but is it dangerous to be so low on free space ?
I'm afraid that could pose an issue on future upgrade, do you think google might consider re-partitioning the internal flash ?
thanks
bye
The above are reasonable questions.
Not being an expert, I wonder how much file system manipulation may be accomplished with an "in place" update.
I don't think the lack of file system headroom is a problem.
For upgrades down the road, cross that bridge when and if you get there. This device is not likely to receive another major update such as this.
I too deleted all my ringtone files save one. Also, I froze certain Google apps I'm unlikely to use. No ill effects that I can see.
With only 670 Mb of /system partition google has to decide what is in and what is out: as an example the launcher is still the old basic one because it has a smaller footprint. My Nexus 5 has googleNow launcher by default because its /system partition is 1 GB (and only 40Mb free). There will be a moment when the system files will not fit in 670 Mb and the nexus 7 will be abandoned ...
Sure the tablet is 2 years old and lollipop is very likely the last update, but I hope it will still be eligible for a 5.1 update (if any).
bye
Enrico
maybe something related with
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/how-to-fix-internal-storage-16gb-8gb-t2033692
No, that is a different issue (which I also had and fixed with a factory reset). The /system partition is 670 Mb by google design and it is filled with system files.
For Google, 3 Mb of free space is more than enough, but if you have to root and/or do other changes, that might be a problem.
bye
i deleted all the programs in system that could be installed from the play store. even launcher since i installed the Now launcher.
Freed up a lot of system space and seems to have stopped most of the system lag.
I deleted the Maps and Chrome APKs, it looks like the updated versions of those google apps went into /data anyway so it wasn't needed in /system
I deleted some gapps with titanium (chrome, documents, "edicola" i don't know english name) but at reboot I have a lot of system UI error, so I return back to 4.4.4.
How I have to use for delete unwanted system apps?
Thanks!
When it comes to perceived or measured performance, it is inconsequential for a read-only filesystem to be nearly full. And /system is designed to be mounted read only - so there are no processes trying to write things there anyway.
It only matters to folks who might want to add additional content to the /system partition - and even then only at the moment of that operation; even if they fill it to 100% capacity, that will not cause a single performance issue.
Move along folks - nothing to see here.
Performed a full clean install last night, there was some lag. I rebooted a few times left it idle for a while but no difference. I'm doing this as I want to install Phantom kernel and move to F2FS which apparently needs a little more space free. So I moved some apps out of system to data and the difference was instant and noticeable.
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When it comes to perceived or measured performance, it is inconsequential for a read-only filesystem to be nearly full. And /system is designed to be mounted read only - so there are no processes trying to write things there anyway.
It only matters to folks who might want to add additional content to the /system partition - and even then only at the moment of that operation; even if they fill it to 100% capacity, that will not cause a single performance issue.
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That is exactly my feelings, I do not care if currently I have left only few Mb AFTER rooting and other tweaks, the partition is read-only and nobody is writing there during normal operation. After the initial adjustments, the tablet is smooth and runs fine even if the partition is nearly full.
I'm worried about future upgrades (if any): if an OTA fails because there is not enough space to update the /system partition (due to customised extra files) and/or after the OTA upgrade there is no room to add the superSu app to root ... then we are in trouble.
bye
Enrico
enryfox said:
I'm worried about future upgrades (if any): if an OTA fails because there is not enough space to update the /system partition (due to customised extra files) and/or after the OTA upgrade there is no room to add the superSu app to root ... then we are in trouble.
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If the current OTA update is how future OTA updates will be installed (and there's no reason to suggest it's not) then any change you make to System will cause the OTA to fail, even if you change back everything. Meaning it will fail, not because it ran out of space because of the customized files you mentioned, but because it was tinkered with even the slightest bit.
So if the OTA behavior is like the current one, then do whatever you want to System, delete stuff, fill it up to the brim, doesn't matter because come next OTA time you'll have to flash the stock system image file anyway, if you wanna keep your data, or flash the then new stock firmware entirely, like you did this time.
dtg7 said:
If the current OTA update is how future OTA updates will be installed (and there's no reason to suggest it's not) then any change you make to System will cause the OTA to fail, even if you change back everything. Meaning it will fail, not because it ran out of space because of the customized files you mentioned, but because it was tinkered with even the slightest bit.
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Actually I started with a rooted 4.4.4 and sideloaded the 5.0 OTA: it worked and the the update was applied successfully. My problem was that /system was really full to the brim, with 0 bytes left and that is way I applied the factory image. With current grouper 5.0 official image there is simply not enough space to root, install busybox and change the hosts file, we need to make some room to get all three tweak's.
I'm surprised future OTA's will not work simply because we tinkered with system files; until now I always applied new OTA's over rooted system files and they always worked (from 4.3 all the way up to 4.4.4).
bye
Enrico
enryfox said:
Hi all,
I updated my Nexus 7 to lollipop using the
factory image (just to have a fresh start ..)
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enryfox said:
Actually I started with a rooted 4.4.4 and sideloaded the 5.0 OTA: it worked and the the update was applied successfully.
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Kind of conflicting statements there...
Anyway here's what I understood about Lollipop OTAs: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...e-means-update-will-fail-system-modified-way/
So in conclusion I'm just gonna do whatever to system and flash stock system when next OTA comes around.
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Kind of conflicting statements there...
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no Conflicts here :
enryfox said:
Actually I started with a rooted 4.4.4 and sideloaded the 5.0 OTA: it worked and the the update was applied successfully. My problem was that /system was really full to the brim, with 0 bytes left and that is way I applied the factory image.
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the OTA + root process left me with a /system partition full and there was no way to free space (I do not know why) so I had to restore the factory image.
The new OTA policy, as for my experience, does not apply to the our Nexus 7: the android 5.0 OTA applied to my rooted nexus7 flawlessly; if it wasn't for the rooting process filling up the /system partition, I would have kept it as it was.
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Enrico
i think same Problems in my moto g 5.0.2 LP stock 20mb free space in /Sys.
Someone should make a deodexed stock ROM, so there'd be more free space? I'd do it myself but my PC isn't powerful enough to run the deodex tool and my upload speed is 350kb/s so I wouldn't be able to upload it anywhere (400-500MB)
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It's all the apps that the ROM flashed into the system partition. I found myself with 1MB free. I needed that space for root apps so I installed Titanium Backup and uninstalled several apps that you can grab from the Play Store. I got to 103MB free in /system.
I wasn't sure if uninstalling the foreign language keyboards would cause problems, so I left those alone. If anyone know if they can be safely removed please let me know.
Anywho, I'll list what I removed.
Chrome
YouTube
Drive
Maps
Street View
Google+
Wallet
Play Music
Sound Search
Don't forget to reboot after uninstalling. Then install from the Play Store.
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It's all the apps that the ROM flashed into the system partition. I found myself with 1MB free. I needed that space for root apps so I installed Titanium Backup and uninstalled several apps that you can grab from the Play Store. I got to 103MB free in /system.
I wasn't sure if uninstalling the foreign language keyboards would cause problems, so I left those alone. If anyone know if they can be safely removed please let me know.
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The foreign languade keyboards (as well as the ASUS keyboard) are among the things I've uninstalled to free up some space in the system partition. I've seen no ill effects. My system partition has about 65 MB free. Here's what I've uninstalled:
ASUS Keyboard
Docs
Google Hindi Input
Google Korean keyboard
Google Pinyin Input
Google Play Games
Hangouts
Sheets
Slides
Talkback
I confirm that, also, N7 3G is smoother than before with lollipop 5.0.2 with more space in system partition
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