[NEWS] Sensation XL Kernel Source Code Released - Desire HD General

The Sensation XL Kernel Source Code has been released by HTC. Checkout the link below:
http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
Does this mean that we'll be able to port this kernel to our Desire HD? Sorry if I sound stupid.

Sid_dominic56 said:
The Sensation XL Kernel Source Code has been released by HTC. Checkout the link below:
http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
Does this mean that we'll be able to port this kernel to our Desire HD? Sorry if I sound stupid.
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It means nothing to us
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trh1341 said:
It means nothing to us
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it is not possible,you want to tell me that the only device on which it is simply not going to ry DHD?
I do not believe sorry,you are BIG BIG DEVS?Yet?

Simonekl said:
it is not possible,you want to tell me that the only device on which it is simply not going to ry DHD?
I do not believe sorry,you are BIG BIG DEVS?Yet?
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.... Anyway...
The SXL kernel was released months ago and is as useful to us as a one V kernel - which is not very much!
And before you say "oh, but the HW is the same. Why don't you guys give kernel 3.0 to me. Aargh! " why don't YOU try to port it, if you get it working ill take this all back
Peace.
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Simonekl said:
it is not possible,you want to tell me that the only device on which it is simply not going to ry DHD?
I do not believe sorry,you are BIG BIG DEVS?Yet?
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Because I haven't mad a highly successful rom like lord DOES NOT mean I have no idea what in talking about. I have made a few working roms. Only 2 I have shared with xda. They weren't huge but people used them and actually appreciated it.(almost) No one appreciates anything in this section anymore. Its always what YOU want...you just throw reality out the window and demand something without thinking about the work needed. I can be as clueless as as a squirrel and just read one thread about ics or jellybean to find the answer I just gave you.
Edit: I'm sorry this was not directed at you In particular, it was directed at all if xda pretty much. Its just ridiculous that people don't read a single sentence and demand something(which in no way did you demand anything..you just said you didn't believe me and that's okay but if you read a couple threads on it,you would have found your answer...but that's okay )
Again not directed at you specifically!
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trh1341 said:
Because I haven't mad a highly successful rom like lord DOES NOT mean I have no idea what in talking about. I have made a few working roms. Only 2 I have shared with xda. They weren't huge but people used them and actually appreciated it.(almost) No one appreciates anything in this section anymore. Its always what YOU want...you just throw reality out the window and demand something without thinking about the work needed. I can be as clueless as as a squirrel and just read one thread about ics or jellybean to find the answer I just gave you.
Edit: I'm sorry this was not directed at you In particular, it was directed at all if xda pretty much. Its just ridiculous that people don't read a single sentence and demand something(which in no way did you demand anything..you just said you didn't believe me and that's okay but if you read a couple threads on it,you would have found your answer...but that's okay )
Again not directed at you specifically!
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"claps" anyone?
Well said lol,
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Which Droid build is the best fit for the HTC HD2? Can some one help?

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Dude. Someone please stop these threads in the development forum
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The best build would be the froyosenseevonexusdeziredroid2.9warm4.9
Rlmao......
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Don't post this here. It just pisses everyone off. Learn to help yourself by READING.
lonewolf1972 said:
The best build would be the froyosenseevonexusdeziredroid2.9warm4.9
Rlmao......
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ooooo, one of my favorite builds!! lol
lonewolf1972 said:
The best build would be the froyosenseevonexusdeziredroid2.9warm4.9
Rlmao......
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Yes, this is THE best build ever. [OP] should look it up in the search engine for detail and possibly download link.
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It's stickied to the top of the forum and says "READ THIS BEFORE POSTING" for a reason.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734335
Thank you everyone for their advice I'm new to this. Next time I will read first.
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dragonfist357 said:
Thank you everyone for their advice I'm new to this. Next time I will read first.
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Lame excuse, buddy!
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I understand that the question might provoke a bit of negative response as it could be PERCEIVED as a lack of appreciation towards ALL those cooking ROMS. Im sure no offense is meant by the qursetion though. As a not so hard rule, the ROMS most recent are usually based on the most recent kernels (which have improvements and latest tweaks and latest apps, but not necessarily are the best). So I suggest you try a few different ones, but maybe starting from the latest.
May I take the opportunity to thank all cookers who have contributed one way or another to us today having roms that are fantastic.
WTF
secano said:
Lame excuse, buddy!
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Hey back off the guy has freaking 2 posts are you guys serious quit flaming you flamers!
try em
you have to try them that is the only way to see which is the BEST for YOU. I currently have six different builds most from mdeejay so like i said try them and find out everyone is different i have energy rom tmob usa mdeejay froyo nextsense 2.4.2
first i just wanted to say its not called droid...its android. droid is nothing more than a brand name that verizon uses for MOST of their android handsets. they pay george lucas extra money just to use the DROID name
are you serious? another one?! thats just........sickening.
Thanks for the help.. I've tried a few builds.. Now I think I do something else to my phone to get my voice to sound correct when I'm using the phone.
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dragonfist357 said:
Thanks for the help.. I've tried a few builds.. Now I think I do something else to my phone to get my voice to sound correct when I'm using the phone.
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Make sure you have a recent Radio (the 2.15.50.14 works fine with Android and WM).
of course this will cause a flame war
zephr5 said:
Hey back off the guy has freaking 2 posts are you guys serious quit flaming you flamers!
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Having 2 posts means nothing .... it does not mean that OP s not got common sense and it does not mean he cant read ...
number of posts is never really important ...
but i do believe people who can use a phone can read and understand enuf to not post stuff in the wrong forum eh ?
maybe this should be moved to someplace else ...
"but we have a search feature!!!!"
if you don't like this tread then why are you reading it? if it's posted in the wrong category, then surely a mod will move it. in the mean time, try to carry on in your self-inflicted misery individually, instead of dragging everyone else into your negativity.
If you know how to do it for your co-worker, I'm assuming you have experience, so wouldn't you know which build is stable by now?
Look at my signature. That's the most stable combo for me, works flawlessly as a daily build.

[VIDEO] SENSE 3.5 on nexus one...just the video

just saw a video on youtube of sense 3.5 on the nexus one. hope this comes to the forum soon... here's the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG_4V2cJXMs&feature=player_embedded
wrong section to post this
sorry, didnt know...where is the right section?
Probably general discussion, FYI that video been posted already.
Correct me if Im wrong, but sounds like a "bad developer" to just port something to show to his friends.
Seriously, I never do this thing without throw in xda to receive help to improve the rom, just blame me, the only rom I didn't post here is a rom that is unable to boot.
Wheres is this developers? Where's this rom? Yeah.. now you understand me
Man sense sucks.
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illuminarias said:
Man sense sucks.
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1) Comment that doesnt help
2) YOUR opinion isnt something that makes sense in a thread about a rom or soemthing related. In this way, do you think I troll any single symbian user just because I have an opinion about it? No...
3) Next time, try to be more adult, thanks
Menelkir said:
1) Comment that doesnt help
2) YOUR opinion isnt something that makes sense in a thread about a rom or soemthing related. In this way, do you think I troll any single symbian user just because I have an opinion about it? No...
3) Next time, try to be more adult, thanks
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You mean matured? Adult is a phase in the human cycle, not an attitude. I was simply stating my opinion,I didn't tell everyone not to flash it. Why you gotta be so butt hurt? My job here is done.
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illuminarias said:
You mean matured? Adult is a phase in the human cycle, not an attitude. I was simply stating my opinion,I didn't tell everyone not to flash it. Why you gotta be so butt hurt? My job here is done.
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Butthurt? Wtf? Let me remember you one more time: this is an development forum, not your profile in some social network to expose an opinion to your friends. Immature and childish comments like yours aren't welcome here.
And yes, I was talk about a "herp derp human cycle".
Looks really cool, i am thinking to get a new HTC
ydyzzm said:
Looks really cool, i am thinking to get a new HTC
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Yep.. but you should wait the 20th of september first!
HTC will have a conference in London and some new Android phones will be presented.
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Sense 3.5 is great, but obviously not for all, but lets not fall out about it huh......
......please show respect for each other.

[ROM] ICS Sense 4.0 aka Alpha Goldfish

Hi community, I have been here on xda for a while, but just reasently got my self the HTC Inspire 4G.
What this is all about though that I will start to build or at least attempt to build the 4.0 Sense ROM for the Inspire and the Desire HD.
Help is always accepted just pm I will try to respond as soon as possible.
Ok this is what i got so far for some reason only boots in boot manager
http://dev-host.org/E9c
That wifi actually works for me
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Youre probably better off calling this a WIP thread, goodluck sir
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hey community if you can't support him so try to encourage him...
no one born as a DEV but with hard work and with support he can be.
really i respect any one spend from his time and efforts to produce to us something new
makes us happy.
What ROM are you basing yours off of? Or are you basing this off the RUU? I have a Sense 4.0 I'm working on, from a base whom I got permission from. What all do you have done?
Sure I will upload something just really need to find a good provider to upload to
Any suggestions??
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Rabim said:
Sure I will upload something just really need to find a good provider to upload to
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www.dev-host.org
Rabim said:
Sure I will upload something just really need to find a good provider to upload to
Any suggestions??
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LorD ClockaN uses goo-inside.me which will also allow ota updates
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this should be interesting if he got wifi working whed at least 8 other guys couldn't make it happen
LorD ClockaN said:
this should be interesting if he got wifi working whed at least 8 other guys couldn't make it happen
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He's already provided a fix he said works for him but didnt work for anyone else
Sounds good mate. Glad to see another dev. Hope all goes well.
Bring on the alpha!!!
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wilkyyyy said:
He's already provided a fix he said works for him but didnt work for anyone else
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That wifi fix was referring to the one he posted for Sense 3.6 ICS. Not this one.
HTC_Phone said:
That wifi fix was referring to the one he posted for Sense 3.6 ICS. Not this one.
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A different sense version wont make it any easier to fix wifi, its still ICS
Rabim said:
Hi community, I have been here on xda for a while, but just reasently got my self the HTC Inspire 4G.
What this is all about though that I will start to build or at least attempt to build the 4.0 Sense ROM for the Inspire and the Desire HD.
Help is always accepted just pm I will try to respond as soon as possible.
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Everyone read the op again
It states that he will start/attempt to bring sense 4.0 to dhd, its a WIP
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wilkyyyy said:
A different sense version wont make it any easier to fix wifi, its still ICS
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You're right. ICS is ICS. I PM'd him to collaborate, because I have a port I'm working on, and its fairly close to a TEST release.
Rabim said:
Sure I will upload something just really need to find a good provider to upload to
Any suggestions??
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use 4shared.com and you have a huge free 15Gigs account
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ok so I'm uploading it right now .
First of it has a install problem for some reason so I have been using it in Bootmanager. So defenaty need to look in to it.
hardcore4ever said:
And what u got so far?
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Just finishing up getting it past boot, so that anyone willing cam give me a logcat to help. Very close actually.
OK so I just spoke to Rabim, and no, he doesn't have the ROM ready. It wouldn't boot because he's using the wrong kernel, and since there is no kernel for Sense 4, he used the one for AOSP which caused a lot of different issues.
HOWEVER, the guy is new to this, and he just wants to learn as much as he can, so if you're going to flame and write retarded comments about this, please hit yourself in the head with a sharp object first. If you guys have ideas and want to support him, I've messaged andy to move this thread to general section, and there you can share your ideas with Rabim and help him develop the ROM. He's using the recent nexus port of Endeavor.
EDIT: I would offer my help, but I have no time at all atm.
Ok, here we have the OP, who want's to learn & give something to the Desire HD community.
What happens next....
1. The whole community gets behind him/her and provides necessary guidance & advice to achieve the overall goal?
2. Some users take it upon themselves to "nay-say" and just bring the thread down before it's even started?
We want the answer to be 1.
Yet here we are again, and we have 2.
Please guys, don't push away those who want to give something back to the community.
Rabim - I've moved your thread to General until things start to progress. Once you have something together just send me a PM and I'll get this moved into the Development forum.
Also, any problems of issues? Just PM me or add me on GTalk and I will always be happy to help. (Seems like 3/4's of XDA's Million users have me on GTalk now )

ICS Sense ROMS Camera

Hi folks. I was going to flash ICS on my friend's DHD but how strange that no ROM supports camera. AOSP roms do have a working Camera. Is there any work around for this?
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Yes, it's called searching and reading.
First one in before it's closed.
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AOSP is something diffrent then Sense.
And if you wait a few days virtuous will make you happy.
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Teichopsia said:
Yes, it's called searching and reading.
First one in before it's closed.
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOO:laugh:
Its called the damn search button so you can see all the other kids like you asking the same stuff -__- Virtous has a fix coming very soon INB4CLOSE
warfexion said:
Its called the damn search button so you can see all the other kids like you asking the same stuff -__- Virtous has a fix coming very soon INB4CLOSE
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And if you put your **** back in your mouth and answer me with some manners that'd have done the trick. Where the f*ck is written the camera will work with some fix coming soon? I looked through xda for quite sometime. IT WASNT MY DHD and my friend had to leave. I'd to sort it out quickly. But the retards like you just make people feel bad.
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mohsinraza said:
And if you put your **** back in your mouth and answer me with some manners that'd have done the trick. Where the f*ck is written the camera will work with some fix coming soon? I looked through xda for quite sometime. IT WASNT MY DHD and my friend had to leave. I'd to sort it out quickly. But the retards like you just make people feel bad.
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+1
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mohsinraza said:
And if you put your **** back in your mouth and answer me with some manners that'd have done the trick. Where the f*ck is written the camera will work with some fix coming soon? I looked through xda for quite sometime. IT WASNT MY DHD and my friend had to leave. I'd to sort it out quickly. But the retards like you just make people feel bad.
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dont be angry dude!
hamidreza2000m said:
dont be angry dude!
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I'm not angry mate. I was just talking in the language he could easily understand.
Sorry if it made you feel bad. I'd no intention to talk like this.
Sorry once again guys
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mohsinraza said:
And if you put your **** back in your mouth and answer me with some manners that'd have done the trick. Where the f*ck is written the camera will work with some fix coming soon? I looked through xda for quite sometime. IT WASNT MY DHD and my friend had to leave. I'd to sort it out quickly. But the retards like you just make people feel bad.
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Ok, I guess that attacking one each other is not solution. We are here to share knowledge and our flash addiction. There´s no need to answer like that. You are senior member and you know the rules. You could have done it a bit different. ICS Camera issue have been debated many times. ICS AOSP roms have working cameras but not video recording...that is stated in the corresponding threads. The solution should be able as soon as HTC releases the 3.0 Kernel or the first ICS Sense update is rolled out. That is also in the forums, there´s also a specific thread for it. So, don´t get that angry and show that u are different in your manners if you feel offended by someone...if not you just show that are the same....
It is on the main forum that says android 4.0 coming July- August, It is beyond annoying when this is all you see when CLEARLY in all sense 4.0 threads are saying they are waiting for kernel 3.0
I feel bad for the devs they must facepalm at all these people who can't read/search
Hey does ICS camera work? Nexus has ICS so we should be able to port it.
/sarcasm
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andrew.cambridge said:
Hey does ICS camera work? Nexus has ICS so we should be able to port it.
/sarcasm
Sent my Atrix that is faster than most phones
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maybe u should have a look at this....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689646
Let me quote it: "...Stock camera app cant record video..."
I have run that rom and works as charm...
glevitan said:
maybe u should have a look at this....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689646
Let me quote it: "...Stock camera app cant record video..."
I have run that rom and works as charm...
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Awkward when I have to point out that I wrote Sarcasm at the bottom of my post. Its not as funny when I have to explain my jokes.
Sent my Atrix that is faster than most phones
andrew.cambridge said:
Awkward when I have to point out that I wrote Sarcasm at the bottom of my post. Its not as funny when I have to explain my jokes.
Sent my Atrix that is faster than most phones
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Lol.... never is, but this post is funnier than the previous one.
Sent from a dream.
Sorry, I just got emotionally involved with the post!!....but it is funny reading it now!!....

LOGS from ICS leak

Hi guys,
Could anyone please collect the logs that are being generated by the ICS leak, zip the folders they are in and share them?
I'd do it myself though i don't have the leak installed.
Thanks in advance.
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Hm, this is fishy. You only just appeared here (2 posts in total) and already you're asking people to send you their logs? And your request for the AT&T bloat is just weird.
Dunno, fishy.
If you really want some logs, I suggest you install the leak and collect them yourself.
Hi there,
Is there a welcome thread i need to add my first post to?
Nothing fishy going on here. I read about the leak and how it had logs enabled, making the phone crawl. I instantly thought about analyzing these verbose logs to try and pick up where the original dev(s) left off. Logs will help further development of the release.
As for the AT&T files, i want to see if there's anything in them that would explain why the leak was pulled from this site.
Thanks for reading.
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integraletotale said:
Is there a welcome thread i need to add my first post to?
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Um, actually I don't know. Possibly. More likely to be in the general forum section (not Atrix general, the forum general).
integraletotale said:
Nothing fishy going on here. I read about the leak and how it had logs enabled, making the phone crawl. I instantly thought about analyzing these verbose logs to try and pick up where the original dev(s) left off. Logs will help further development of the release.
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Dunno. Still seems easier to just install the leak and collect the logs yourself. After you're done, you can restore your nandroid backup and it'll be as if nothing ever happened.
Anyway, I'm not running the leak myself so I can't really help you either way. Maybe someone else will be of more help.
There is an introduce yourself thread (or something like that) in the general section of this forum.
Not sure it will do much since it is hard to believe you are not a Motorola/Google/AT&T/Authentec/Whatever employee.
An xda member for almost 2 years with zero posts until today....
Suddenly shows up when the leak arrives....
Asking for logs(?)(!)....with no explanation as to why....
Everyone knows that Motorola/Google/AT&T/Authentec/Whatever employees monitor the forums....
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck.....
Bye!
I don't think they would post here. They don't need anything they don't already have. If they were to pull strings then i strongly believe it would be through management.
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Not sure it will do much since it is hard to believe you are not a Motorola/Google/AT&T/Authentec/Whatever employee.
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LOL
My guts were telling me there is something off about this. For some reason this never occured to me, but it makes a lot of sense.
Yeah dude, if you're going to spy on us here, at least do it right. :laugh:
LOL @ all the paranoia in this thread
integraletotale said:
I don't think they would post here. They don't need anything they don't already have. ...
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Except for some logs to find out who leaked the build.
coolnow said:
LOL @ all the paranoia in this thread
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If motorola's devs wasted as much time conjuring theories instead of getting to work then i'd understand the delay. Seriously though... can anyone with the slightest interest in getting a usable and stable realease out of the leak please contact me.
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Being honest, open, and explaining yourself would certainly aid cooperation.
PM me if you are more comfortable about that.
Paranoid everywhere...
What kind of personal information he can take from the logs?
upndwn4par said:
Not sure it will do much since it is hard to believe you are not a Motorola/Google/AT&T/Authentec/Whatever employee.
An xda member for almost 2 years with zero posts until today....
Suddenly shows up when the leak arrives....
Asking for logs(?)(!)....with no explanation as to why....
Everyone knows that Motorola/Google/AT&T/Authentec/Whatever employees monitor the forums....
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck.....
Bye!
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Not really
i registered in XDA in 8th November 2009 after i bought my xperia x1 to search for some problems and new roms, now the same with my atrix
Every thing that i need is here, so, no need to post or ask for something
12 post in 3 years lol
Another reason, i'm not very fluent in english
ravilov said:
LOL
My guts were telling me there is something off about this. For some reason this never occured to me, but it makes a lot of sense.
Yeah dude, if you're going to spy on us here, at least do it right. :laugh:
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Yup i totally Agree Seems like we Got a Mole in the System trolling For evidence
::Edit Now he has me Courious to Know Whats so Dammed Important in All the "At&t apps" included in Zip ...Hummm..?
or Whats in the Logs he Wants So Badly
balintmaci said:
if they really wanted to do that they would do it right. install the rom for themselves....
unless they are overly retarded which would explain the lurking...
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What if he doesn't even own an Atrix??!?!?
*Dramatic Music*
ToonShadow said:
What if he doesn't even own an Atrix??!?!?
*Dramatic Music*
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Dont Get Me started On That!
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rojocapo89 said:
Paranoid everywhere...
What kind of personal information he can take from the logs?
Not really
i registered in XDA in 8th November 2009 after i bought my xperia x1 to search for some problems and new roms, now the same with my atrix
Every thing that i need is here, so, no need to post or ask for something
12 post in 3 years lol
Another reason, i'm not very fluent in english
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Under usual circumstances you would probably have the logs by now but the situation currently is a tad different.
Don't take it too hard but the latest leak got everyone on edge.
It's nice to see people still care about the device.
I have to say since the leak the readin in just about every thread is getting better and better with all the theories and paranoia. Who needs best selling books xda is so much better
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Pbwizkid said:
I have to say since the leak the readin in just about every thread is getting better and better with all the theories and paranoia. Who needs best selling books xda is so much better
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Lol. It is good reading.
integraletotale = Lone ATT Tegra Lie
Ohhhh

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