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thinking about exchanging for nexus S. thoughts?

i got my atrix from best buy 3 weeks ago and i am still within my 30 day exchange period. if you didn't already know, the Nexus S was released today for AT&T at best buy (subsized $99). i know the Nexus S is an mildly inferior spec wise, however, with the plethora of ROMs available (including CM7), switching to the Nexus S seems very enticing. i know the atrix will eventually get AOSP ROMS, but i miss the good ole days on my Nexus One with vanilla android, CM7, etc. Obviously there will be a bias here because I am posting in the atrix forum. but anyone have any thoughts on this? ive read all the phonedog, cnet, youtube, reviews/comparisons on the 2 devices, but I wanted to ask the XDA community.
couple of points:
- hspa+ doesn't seem to be a huge issue for where i live because the max speedtest i ever got on my atrix was 2.9mb/s DL and 1.8 UP (running samcripp's ninja 4.5 w/ faux kernel and latest radio). im assuming even the 3G Nexus S will achieve similar speeds as my buddys iPhone 4 gets 2.8-3.0MBps in our area.
- not a fan of the atrix's color accuracy. samoled looks better to my eyes, despite lower resolution.
anyone that has owned a Nexus S or knows anything about it, please give me your input. thanks fellas/ladies

arvindrao86 said:
i got my atrix from best buy 3 weeks ago and i am still within my 30 day exchange period. if you didn't already know, the Nexus S was released today for AT&T at best buy (subsized $99). i know the Nexus S is an mildly inferior spec wise, however, with the plethora of ROMs available (including CM7), switching to the Nexus S seems very enticing. i know the atrix will eventually get AOSP ROMS, but i miss the good ole days on my Nexus One with vanilla android, CM7, etc. Obviously there will be a bias here because I am posting in the atrix forum. but anyone have any thoughts on this? ive read all the phonedog, cnet, youtube, reviews/comparisons on the 2 devices, but I wanted to ask the XDA community.
couple of points:
- hspa+ doesn't seem to be a huge issue for where i live because the max speedtest i ever got on my atrix was 2.9mb/s DL and 1.8 UP (running samcripp's ninja 4.5 w/ faux kernel and latest radio). im assuming even the 3G Nexus S will achieve similar speeds as my buddys iPhone 4 gets 2.8-3.0MBps in our area.
- not a fan of the atrix's color accuracy. samoled looks better to my eyes, despite lower resolution.
anyone that has owned a Nexus S or knows anything about it, please give me your input. thanks fellas/ladies
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A friend of mine owns the nexus S and I own the atrix.
It's a nice phone with AOSP gingerbread (and many roms) but I don't think it's very futureproof which puts me off of it.
The source code is being released for atrix gingerbread on 7/29 from the 4.5.91 build, and when that happens, there truly will be an AOSP/CM7 build for the atrix within a week or two.
If you want a better experience with your phone right now (or for the next 4-6 months) I would go with the nexus S, but from an investment point of view the atrix is a far better choice. I enjoy it.

Atrix has dual cores and is more recent. Though that curved screen on the Nexus S looks nice
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Magnetox said:
A friend of mine owns the nexus S and I own the atrix.
It's a nice phone with AOSP gingerbread (and many roms) but I don't think it's very futureproof which puts me off of it.
The source code is being released for atrix gingerbread on 7/29 from the 4.5.91 build, and when that happens, there truly will be an AOSP/CM7 build for the atrix within a week or two.
If you want a better experience with your phone right now (or for the next 4-6 months) I would go with the nexus S, but from an investment point of view the atrix is a far better choice. I enjoy it.
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+1 in a month when cm7 and other roms are available your going to be a little disappointed you hadnt waited out a little longer and got the same or similar ui exprience with more speed and a longer time line in terms of being future proof. soon the nexus s will be completely outdated while the atrix wont

I own both phones. The nexus s is a great phone. Im using launcherpro on both with the exact same homescreen setup and the atrix is noticeably faster. Web browsing is a LOT faster on the atrix as well. And my atrix is still on 2.2. What i like about the nexus s is the camera. It completely destroys the atrix cam especially on night shots. 2.3 is also a plus along with getting first the udates that google will release. I thought i could use the nexus s as my main phone but still ended up using my atrix a lot more.
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Honestly, i almost thought about buying the nexus S before the Atrix was released. But like they said, it's not future proof, single core(not the biggest deal breaker, but dual core does make a difference). The main reason i didn't get it was because it doesn't have an sdcard slot, if it had an sdcard slot then i would've got it, another thing is the Atrix's battery is the largest battery in a phone straight out of the box, sure there are extended batteries out there that u could get, but they're so big that they will pretty much double the thickness of your phone if not more which will most likely make your phone uncomfortable after a while.
But overall the Nexus S is a great device if your not too worried about mods/roms, but once these new firmwares/roms are released that require more advanced hardware or software that's not compatible with the nexus S, then you'll be looking for another phone, while a more future proof phone like the Atrix will be able to keep up
just something to think about

varem said:
Atrix has dual cores and is more recent. Though that curved screen on the Nexus S looks nice
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The screen isn't curved, only the glass cover is.
TechnoNeto said:
+1 in a month when cm7 and other roms are available your going to be a little disappointed you hadnt waited out a little longer and got the same or similar ui exprience with more speed and a longer time line in terms of being future proof. soon the nexus s will be completely outdated while the atrix wont
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Cyanogen replied to a question about Atrix CM7 on Jun 26 stating that they'd probably begin working on it soon. This was right after the unlock was released. You can be sure that with the GB source release they'll be jumping on it both feet first, as they have CM7 for both the T-Mobile G2X and LG Optimus already (other similar Tegra 2 devices).

phobos512 said:
The screen isn't curved, only the glass cover is.
Cyanogen replied to a question about Atrix CM7 on Jun 26 stating that they'd probably begin working on it soon. This was right after the unlock was released. You can be sure that with the GB source release they'll be jumping on it both feet first, as they have CM7 for both the T-Mobile G2X and LG Optimus already (other similar Tegra 2 devices).
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Oh lol, nvm then. I just saw the pic in a review. Looked curved to me
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ANY phone lacking Micro SD, is an automatic deal breaker for me.
That's why I still have and rather use an SGS over the Nexus...

color accuracy on the super amoled displays is horrible imo. it looks like a tv in vivid mode

With an unlocked bootloader, the Atrix puts the Nexus S to shame. The screen on the Nexus S isn't my cup of tea either, the colors are sooooo exaggerated.
Not to mention, with rumors flying around of a Nexus 4G being released first for AT&T in October with Ice Cream Sandwich, the Nexus S will be a thing of the past. If you're getting the Nexus S in hopes of always getting the latest from Google first, remember how well (sarcasm) they treated Nexus One owners ;-)
Finally, honestly, pure Android experience is nice, but Moto does an awesome job (in my opinion) filling in for some key nice features. For example, the stock gallery app on Android is HORRID, it will make you want to stab yourself while you wait for it to load up new photos. Moto on the other hand, did an awesome job with their gallery app, more so especially with Gingerbread for the Atrix.

ccrows said:
ANY phone lacking Micro SD, is an automatic deal breaker for me.
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Same for me. How do Google expect to showcase their platform with a neutered phone? Ridiculous.

thank you to everyone! i never expected so many helpful responses. unfortunately, this makes my decision even harder. i am the type of person that changes phone literally every 3 months. i will be getting the iPhone 5(4S or whatever) when it comes out. Don't get me wrong, I love android, but I also have a hidden passion for iOS devices. However, whichever android phone I decide upon, I will be keeping. If we really are going to be getting true AOSP ROMS on the atrix in the coming weeks, I think I am just going to stick with it. The Nexus S just look so sexy though. ugh. tough call here. but thanks again everyone

arvindrao86 said:
thank you to everyone! i never expected so many helpful responses. unfortunately, this makes my decision even harder. i am the type of person that changes phone literally every 3 months. i will be getting the iPhone 5(4S or whatever) when it comes out. Don't get me wrong, I love android, but I also have a hidden passion for iOS devices. However, whichever android phone I decide upon, I will be keeping. If we really are going to be getting true AOSP ROMS on the atrix in the coming weeks, I think I am just going to stick with it. The Nexus S just look so sexy though. ugh. tough call here. but thanks again everyone
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I believe Samcripp is working on making Ninja SF into an AOSP ROM (already themed as such)
Plus, why get the Nexus S now, when the next one is rumored(?) to be coming out soon?

no point in getting nexus S now. it's been out too long and there are many phones now that are better than it spec wise.
like some have said, you should wait for the next nexus phone.
one thing great about nexus phones is that they get all the new updates faster than others. i held my nexus one for more than 1 year before selling it for something better. but while all the software updates are good, the phone eventually got too laggy for me even with launchers and other things running on it.

if you're getting an iphone 5.... i have no words for you

they are already working on a new nexus, too bad samsung is making it. ihope they change it.

TechnoNeto said:
+1 in a month when cm7 and other roms are available your going to be a little disappointed you hadnt waited out a little longer and got the same or similar ui exprience with more speed and a longer time line in terms of being future proof. soon the nexus s will be completely outdated while the atrix wont
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The atrix is going to be outdated before the nexus s because the nexus s will keep getting updates before any phone which will keep it up to date. Afterall it is a Google phone and Google is bound to release 2.4 fairly soon and by that time, nexus s would have the newest update while the atrix would remain on 2.3 for another 4-5 months.
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ameedi600 said:
The atrix is going to be outdated before the nexus s because the nexus s will keep getting updates before any phone which will keep it up to date. Afterall it is a Google phone and Google is bound to release 2.4 fairly soon and by that time, nexus s would have the newest update while the atrix would remain on 2.3 for another 4-5 months.
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PFFFF!. UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER Atrix. Custom Ice Cream roms...
think twice.

jmgg2k said:
PFFFF!. UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER Atrix. Custom Ice Cream roms...
think twice.
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+1 //10char

Buy, or wait for next Nexus?

Looking for honest opinions. I know the GS3 is the best phone today, and there will always be a new thing coming out soon. But I feel like now is a time when in a few months, there might be a series of Nexus phones coming out, and these 2 will be the best Android devices for a while.
I've lived with my Evo for 2 years and a few more months is fine if there's a good chance the Nexus will be a big leap. On the other hand its so tempting to just get the GS3

ECrispy said:
Looking for honest opinions. I know the GS3 is the best phone today, and there will always be a new thing coming out soon. But I feel like now is a time when in a few months, there might be a series of Nexus phones coming out, and these 2 will be the best Android devices for a while.
I've lived with my Evo for 2 years and a few more months is fine if there's a good chance the Nexus will be a big leap. On the other hand its so tempting to just get the GS3
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I was in the same boat as you. I ended up buying the One X. Then I bought the Galaxy S3. Haha..
It will definitely be interesting to see what the new nexus devices come out with. I always say I'll wait for this or wait for that, but inevitably I cave. You can't go wrong with the Galaxy S3. The international model will always have a strong developer following. I worry that the legendary developer following will become very fragmented when 5 different nexus devices are released. That has always been a claim to fame for the nexus line.
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S3 for me hands down.
GNex was a pretty big disappointment for me. The only thing it had going for it was Vanilla Android 4.0 ICS. Everything else about the phone I really hated. If Samsung follows the same trend with the next Nexus, then the next Nexus will be another disappointment in my books.
However, rumors whisper the next Nexus may be a Motorola phone. We'll see.

yyhd said:
S3 for me hands down.
GNex was a pretty big disappointment for me. The only thing it had going for it was Vanilla Android 4.0 ICS. Everything else about the phone I really hated. If Samsung follows the same trend with the next Nexus, then the next Nexus will be another disappointment in my books.
However, rumors whisper the next Nexus may be a Motorola phone. We'll see.
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If the next Nexus is a Motorola, then that will be a disappointment. Even though Google owns Motorola Mobility, If i see another "Droid" by Motorola I'm gonna projectile vomit...
Even though the GNex did not turn heads with its CPU/GPU/Cam, I think it was still a breakthrough device, it's still, to this day imho the best looking device out, front is literally flawless. LED notifier anyone? Even though I'm probably/most likely going to buy the SGS3, it's gonna be tough going back to a device that actually has buttons, that **** is old.....
ECrispy said:
Looking for honest opinions. I know the GS3 is the best phone today, and there will always be a new thing coming out soon. But I feel like now is a time when in a few months, there might be a series of Nexus phones coming out, and these 2 will be the best Android devices for a while.
I've lived with my Evo for 2 years and a few more months is fine if there's a good chance the Nexus will be a big leap. On the other hand its so tempting to just get the GS3
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The next Nexus is not going to be launched until the end of the year, given how quickly devices/tech rolls over, 5 months for a device is already pushing it. The S3 is a beastly of a phone, but trust me, by October/November, there will be rumblings of the S4, the Nexus will be out, or multiple Nexuses, and while most are going to still be waiting for ICS, Nexus users will be rockin' Jelly Bean..

I quite want one, but doubt I'll find anyone to take my skyrocket + cash for this beast of a phone.
No upgrades on my account until september/October I forget. So I guess I'll have to see if anything is good then if nobody will trade me now.
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I think it's pretty dumb to wait for vaporware. If this was a device that had specs that'd make sense, but it seems pretty silly to wait on something and not even know WTF you're waiting for.
edit: Oh, sorry it isn't even vaporware. That's something that's announced and doesn't come to fruition. This hasn't even been announced or hinted at as of yet... silly.

yyhd said:
S3 for me hands down.
GNex was a pretty big disappointment for me. The only thing it had going for it was Vanilla Android 4.0 ICS. Everything else about the phone I really hated. If Samsung follows the same trend with the next Nexus, then the next Nexus will be another disappointment in my books.
However, rumors whisper the next Nexus may be a Motorola phone. We'll see.
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I read a little while back that Google will work with multiple manufacturers for the next line of Nexus phones, including HTC, Samsung, Motorolla, and LG.

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I read a little while back that Google will work with multiple manufacturers for the next line of Nexus phones, including HTC, Samsung, Motorolla, and LG.
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thats why I'm going to stick with gs3. This quad core version is really smooth!
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As you noted, there's always something new coming out. This means that the decision of when to jump in is entirely personal. I really think you should lay out your own minimum requirements and go from there. For me, the GS3 is a no go because one of my requirements is a next gen GPU, not a refreshed 2011 GPU. That's just one example of how I decide if I'm willing to upgrade yet. Until my desired specs are met I'm holding out with my sensation.
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The nexus has repeatedly represent the minimum standard for android and I emphasize the minimum standard. Starting with the nexus one, first 1ghz android. Nexus s with old galaxy s 1ghz and now current galaxy nexus with a dual core 1ghz. Samsung galaxy s series has been known for exceeding that standard and creating
Premium specs. Galaxy s had the best cup/gpu, s2 best cup/gpu and now s3 which has demonstrated it has the top dog cpu /gpu. Samsung has show again and again it s committed to the best.
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if you wait long enough, you could buy google glass.
joking aside, i think the GS3 is a significant upgrade from the phones from the S2 era... and i believe that the new nexus phone will not present that much of an upgrade save for Jelly Bean.

yyhd said:
S3 for me hands down.
GNex was a pretty big disappointment for me. The only thing it had going for it was Vanilla Android 4.0 ICS. Everything else about the phone I really hated. If Samsung follows the same trend with the next Nexus, then the next Nexus will be another disappointment in my books.
However, rumors whisper the next Nexus may be a Motorola phone. We'll see.
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This is so true, and many people share the same sentiment on the galaxy nexus.
vanilla android is great but the hardware is so lacking and gimp.
The promise of having the latest upgrade is not true anymore, it barely got 4.0.4.
I felt sorry for the people that kept their phone stocked and was stuck on the buggy 4.0.1...
but yeah it did look sexy..

I for one would like to hear more details on what the five Nexus devices really are. Are they going to be competing phones, phones with predetermined near-identical specs for dev compatibility, or not phones at all? The former is the ideal case, in terms of hardware at least.1 Combined with the customizable soft nav-bar (I can't help but find non-customizable, non-rotatable nav buttons lame as hell now) the choice would be a no-brainer for me.
But that's an ideal scenario. (Nope, ideal scenario is the Nexus Note )
1 The second would probably be ideal for homebrew deving, but without competition there's no guarantee of real hardware improvements.

There are already ample amount of posts regarding this, so it's not fair to ask the same thing again and again, instead searching would have given you all the answers you need
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copualt3 said:
The nexus has repeatedly represent the minimum standard for android and I emphasize the minimum standard. Starting with the nexus one, first 1ghz android. Nexus s with old galaxy s 1ghz and now current galaxy nexus with a dual core 1ghz. Samsung galaxy s series has been known for exceeding that standard and creating
Premium specs. Galaxy s had the best cup/gpu, s2 best cup/gpu and now s3 which has demonstrated it has the top dog cpu /gpu. Samsung has show again and again it s committed to the best.
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The gnexus is 1.2 ghz omap. 4460 not 1. Do the ghz really matter anymore? All. These damn processors are fast. I want quadcore A15. I'd be fine it was 1ghz

ECrispy said:
Looking for honest opinions. I know the GS3 is the best phone today, and there will always be a new thing coming out soon. But I feel like now is a time when in a few months, there might be a series of Nexus phones coming out, and these 2 will be the best Android devices for a while.
I've lived with my Evo for 2 years and a few more months is fine if there's a good chance the Nexus will be a big leap. On the other hand its so tempting to just get the GS3
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If you're dead set on getting a Nexus, you should stick it out and wait for the next round because they're probably going to be awesome (word is 5 different manufacturers are gonna be making them). The SGS3 phone is a great device, but if you're looking at a Nexus then you're obviously wanting something vanilla and the SGS3 is very, very far from vanilla.

depends if you don't want to root then go nexus as that will be better in the update department but if you are rooting the sgs3 is definitely worth picking up now considering its the best smartphone of the summer and there will be a lot of dev support.
"All this knowledge is giving me a major brainer!"

look, the thing which is important is that can you wait with patience or not? if yes, then wait as long as you can to buy a better device than s3. there are no details out yet regarding next nexus, so no one can say how it will be. In this case you better buy s3 and enjoy ur present time.
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Jelly bean is making me have second thoughts about the gs3..

So i just downloaded jelly bean onto my galaxy nexus and I have to admit it really changed my thoughts on it. Everything now on my Gnex is just so fluid and smooth and im LOVING the new features. With this new found love my my galaxy nexus I can honestly say that my interest in the gs3 has dimmed a bit. Im still going to get and enjoy my gs3 when it comes next week non the less but I guess the big gap between the gs3 and the gnexus has started to close up for me. Does anyone else feel this way? And for the people that do own both the gs3 AND the gnexus with jelly bean on it which one do you prefer more?

I feel the exact same way. I sold my Verizon Gnex today but last night I couldn't help but flash one last ROM. Jelly Bean is amazing and I could not stop touching my Nexus. At the end of the day I'm glad I got my GSIII and look forward to getting this update. I'm actually considering getting a Nexus 7 to fill my stock Android needs. Here's to hoping the new PDK allows Samsung to release a 4.1 update in a timely manner.

I was playing with the nexus all day today and will port my sim back to it and see how Google now works. Jelly bean definitely gave the nexus new life and I couldn't put it down. However, I know jelly bean on the gs3 will be outstanding so I can't wait for those roms. You might be in love now but once the gs3 gets its share you'll be madly in love I'm sure.
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This is why I kept my GNex so I can have the best of both worlds...the GS III is an improvement over the GNex hardware wise, but the GNex will always have the latest Google updates, and boy is JellyBean smooth, smooth like silk, its amazing how much more noticeable the OS responsiveness is on JellyBean...the GS III will have great dev support no doubt...but I still don't think it will have the type of Dev support the GNex will always have.

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This is why I kept my GNex so I can have the best of both worlds...the GS III is an improvement over the GNex hardware wise, but the GNex will always have the latest Google updates, and boy is JellyBean smooth, smooth like silk, its amazing how much more noticeable the OS responsiveness is on JellyBean...the GS III will have great dev support no doubt...but I still don't think it will have the type of Dev support the GNex will always have.
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the gs3 is the top selling non iphone ever sold. i think dev support won't be a problem

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the gs3 is the top selling non iphone ever sold. i think dev support won't be a problem
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Agreed, as far as US phones are concerned I think we will be alright
Here's hoping Google releases the 4th generation nexus on AT&T though, or at least a google play GSM version, I'd grab that in a heartbeat, loved my Nexus S 4G while I was on Sprint.

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the gs3 is the top selling non iphone ever sold. i think dev support won't be a problem
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I didnt say it would be, but the Nexus line of phones has direct dev support from google, and will always get updates and fixes first. Case in point look at Jellybean being fully functional on the Gnex already. Theres a reason the nexus lines exist...they are developer phones. The S line of phones is the Flagship mainstream line.

I upgraded my GNex with Jelly Bean the night before my GS3 arrived at my door. I was torn, to say the least.
I still have my GNex sitting in my messenger bag, just waiting to be powered up. My GS3 sits, in my hand, running *ugh* Touchwiz, and is feeling noticeably less advanced than JB. It's all I can do to stay with my new phone and not rip the sim out and go play with my Nexus again.
You make a good point though - dev support for this phone will be huge, but what worries me is that the AT&T LTE version won't get the same developer love that the international GSM version will get. Already I see they're attempting to port JB to the i9300, but that doesn't mean that effort will port over to the i747.

I'm sure AOSP JB will be ported to the SIII fairly soon after Google releases source which should be mid-July after they officially release JB.

First I think that Google's focus will shift once they get comfortable with Motorola Mobile now that they own them and they will shift there development around one of there flagship phones. With regards to the point about GSM dev over US lets keep in mind that the international market has a month on US market with phone in hand. We will catch up and keep even with them. Just saying.

Its already been ported to the one x so I don't think it will be a problem with us getting it,
Granted its the international one x but I have faith in our devs.

If we don't have it by the time i get my phone, I will port it myself.

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So i just downloaded jelly bean onto my galaxy nexus and I have to admit it really changed my thoughts on it. Everything now on my Gnex is just so fluid and smooth and im LOVING the new features. With this new found love my my galaxy nexus I can honestly say that my interest in the gs3 has dimmed a bit. Im still going to get and enjoy my gs3 when it comes next week non the less but I guess the big gap between the gs3 and the gnexus has started to close up for me. Does anyone else feel this way? And for the people that do own both the gs3 AND the gnexus with jelly bean on it which one do you prefer more?
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Don't let it question your SGSIII decision...
If the Gnex is "just so fluid and smooth" imagine how great the SGSIII will be if/when you put AOSP Jelly bean on it.
The thing about getting the top of the line is not just that you get the best phone today, but you also future-prof yourself (as much as one can, given the cell phone market). Perhaps performance differences between a 4.1 GNex and a 4.1 SGSIII will be negligible (maybe not, but maybe). But just think towards the next android version, and the next. You're going to want that 1.5GHz Snapdragon S4 and 2GB of RAM eventually, even if it seems like overkill today.
Besides, the SGSIII has other benefits aside from just performance. It's also got a much better camera, will have (if not already) a much better accessory selection, expandable memory, etc. etc. etc.

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Don't let it question your SGSIII decision...
If the Gnex is "just so fluid and smooth" imagine how great the SGSIII will be if/when you put AOSP Jelly bean on it.
The thing about getting the top of the line is not just that you get the best phone today, but you also future-prof yourself (as much as one can, given the cell phone market). Perhaps performance differences between a 4.1 GNex and a 4.1 SGSIII will be negligible (maybe not, but maybe). But just think towards the next android version, and the next. You're going to want that 1.5GHz Snapdragon S4 and 2GB of RAM eventually, even if it seems like overkill today.
Besides, the SGSIII has other benefits aside from just performance. It's also got a much better camera, will have (if not already) a much better accessory selection, expandable memory, etc. etc. etc.
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personally by then ill have the next nexus lol....like alot of other users here I tend to switch phones every 4-6 months...so by then a Quad S4 will be out most likely and the GS III will be dated so to speak

Zacisblack said:
I feel the exact same way. I sold my Verizon Gnex today but last night I couldn't help but flash one last ROM. Jelly Bean is amazing and I could not stop touching my Nexus. At the end of the day I'm glad I got my GSIII and look forward to getting this update. I'm actually considering getting a Nexus 7 to fill my stock Android needs. Here's to hoping the new PDK allows Samsung to release a 4.1 update in a timely manner.
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I don't own a GNex but do have a Nexus S 4G and really like the Nexus line. The release of JB has made me second guess my SGS3 purchase ever so slightly because of the pure nature of the Gnex. Nonetheless, we will eventually get JB for the SGS3 and I think patience will pay off in the end because overall the SGS3 is a better phone IMHO.
Like you, I am considering a Nexus 7. I just need to sell my Samsung galaxy tab 7 plus first. Anyone interested? :laugh:

I'm with you on this.... I have both sitting on my desk at the moment (just bought the S3 for my wife). It sure is sweet, but honestly, I love my GN... and JB is just amazing.

demarcmj said:
Don't let it question your SGSIII decision...
If the Gnex is "just so fluid and smooth" imagine how great the SGSIII will be if/when you put AOSP Jelly bean on it.
The thing about getting the top of the line is not just that you get the best phone today, but you also future-prof yourself (as much as one can, given the cell phone market). Perhaps performance differences between a 4.1 GNex and a 4.1 SGSIII will be negligible (maybe not, but maybe). But just think towards the next android version, and the next. You're going to want that 1.5GHz Snapdragon S4 and 2GB of RAM eventually, even if it seems like overkill today.
Besides, the SGSIII has other benefits aside from just performance. It's also got a much better camera, will have (if not already) a much better accessory selection, expandable memory, etc. etc. etc.
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My thoughts exactly. I can't wait to get this update on my gs3
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It's great to hear so many positive reviews of JB! Can't wait!

Just pre-ordered the nexus 7 to hold me over until the sgs3 gets jelly bean!

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Galaxy S II or Nexus S - which to keep

Hi guys
Just wanted some advice on this issue. I realise I'm posting on the Nexus S subforum so the comments might lean in its favour but here goes.
So I've had a Nexus S since launch, and have loved having one. Jelly Bean has made it even more awesome than before, but now I'm a point where my dad is trading in his SGS II for an iPhone 5 when it launches so I was wondering if I should trade in my Nexus S instead and keep the SGS II.
What do you guys think? Is the SGS II better because of the fact that it's been a long while since it launched and the modding scene is fairly well developed? With a reasonable modding scene for the SGS II, I'm wondering if the beefier hardware will be better long term.

Depends on the model of the gs2 really. International I like. Something like sprint gs2 um no thank you.

S2 is just better there is really no contest.

What version of the GS2? If it's Sprint or US Cellular version, trade it in cuz these versions suck bad, otherwise I would keep the GS2.
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Gambler_3 said:
S2 is just better there is really no contest.
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On hardware maybe. Software wise the Nexus winds hands down. The S2 is pretty much dead development wise by comparison.

[email protected] said:
What version of the GS2? If it's Sprint or US Cellular version, trade it in cuz these versions suck bad, otherwise I would keep the GS2.
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its the international version of the SII, and the UK version of NS

Also Project Butter is broken on SGS2 JB roms.

I'd get the gs2 no doubt then.

If I was in this situation, I personally would keep NS as the backup phone, sell GSII, and use that money to upgrade to a new, more powerful phone. (My new phone will be either the next Nexus or Note II)
Why? Because when I'm bored, I can take it out and flash this try that for fun. On the other hand, it can give you a taste of AOSP (if you're using a featured phone and like what the stock ROM offers, e.g. the Note) and possibly some ports of newer Android version if Google decided to drop it.
Besides, the GSII is a commercial phone which means OEM will eventually leave it behind in favor of newer models. Thus, dev community will die out too because they don't have new, updated source code.
If you're thinking that GSII is more superior than the NS, then I would say why would you want to keep it as a backup instead of using/abusing it. It would be a waste leaving it there collecting dust. NS is great for a backup because it's not that inferior nor superior.

Ns ftw. Non nexus device- never again!
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Delete..........

Hardware isn't everything. Infact it doesn't mean much when compared to newer, better software. Keep the NS.
Nexus S. (GSM i9020a)
Paranoid (1.97a - 4.1.1)
Air Kernel (Week 182 - Voodoo)
SmartassV2 (1200/200)
Deep Idle (On - Deadline)
Black Exodus (Inverted apps)

jk0l said:
If I was in this situation, I personally would keep NS as the backup phone, sell GSII, and use that money to upgrade to a new, more powerful phone. (My new phone will be either the next Nexus or Note II)
Why? Because when I'm bored, I can take it out and flash this try that for fun. On the other hand, it can give you a taste of AOSP (if you're using a featured phone and like what the stock ROM offers, e.g. the Note) and possibly some ports of newer Android version if Google decided to drop it.
Besides, the GSII is a commercial phone which means OEM will eventually leave it behind in favor of newer models. Thus, dev community will die out too because they don't have new, updated source code.
If you're thinking that GSII is more superior than the NS, then I would say why would you want to keep it as a backup instead of using/abusing it. It would be a waste leaving it there collecting dust. NS is great for a backup because it's not that inferior nor superior.
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Yeah this is already my tinkering device. My main device is not android. So for purely tinkering, NS > SII? I thought with the time SII has been out, the modding scene would be thriving instead of evaporating.

Keep the nexus s! Good development
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On hardware maybe. Software wise the Nexus winds hands down. The S2 is pretty much dead development wise by comparison.
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100%. That is the sole reason i bought the nexus s. At the time, the galaxy s2 had just come out and i was debating getting the galaxy s2.
But ultimately I decided I would much rather have a phone that was more up to date software wise and google vanilla instead of the horrible (imo) samsung finger print...
Nexus S!!!!
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i think nexus s is good.if you like to port or you are a developer,you may choose nexus s.if you are only a user,i think you may choose Galaxy ii
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Keep the NS and sell the G2 and get a GN or wait for the next Nexus.
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NS for collection; GS2 for use.

keep ns if you love flashing

Keep the NS. JellyBean makes it fly.

[Q] Should I buy a Nexus 4 with it being almost a year old?

I've been debating buying a Nexus 4 for awhile. At this point, do you guys still think its worth it? I've heard rumors that they might be coming out with a new model this year, plus we have the GS4 and the HTCOne coming out very shortly. Do you guys think its worth the money? I really like the OS, no carrier stuff in it. Plus I'm off contract with ATT, so I dont have to worry about that, ill have good service.
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I would still buy it. The N5 is still a rumour and anyway regardless if it does come out you'll always get OS updates before Samsung and HTC.

Maybe wait for a while for the much rumoured Motorola x? Nexus 4 is worth the money. You get what you paid for. Except for sd card and battery life, everything about this is excellent! I am overlooking the camera cuz no one should expect a dslr quality image from a mobile phone.
I am very happy with my nexus 4. Whoever I show it to, is really pleased with design of this device. They have never heard of this phone. In fact the nexus line. Imho, if you look for features on a smartphone go for Samsung, if you look for pure stock experience with updates and support go for nexus 4.
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Just buy it For example, look at the galaxy nexus its been 2 years since its release and its still going strong
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Nexus 4 was released in November. Today it's the 1st of April. Yep, almost a year, only some 7 months short..

Hmm OK, I'll probably pick one up then. I'm just tired of always purchasing the newest handsets to have the features, i just want them when they come out lol. Plus i really like how smooth the android experience is with how google sets up their phones. Are they really heavy by chance?

And I also don't think nexus 5 will support sd card, instead more storage size will be available along with cloud
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Hmm OK, I'll probably pick one up then. I'm just tired of always purchasing the newest handsets to have the features, i just want them when they come out lol. Plus i really like how smooth the android experience is with how google sets up their phones. Are they really heavy by chance?
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Heavy?????? I wouldn't say so at 139 grams.

It is hard to me to get any other android phone these days. I used to work at sprint and hated that they weren't going to have nexus 4, galaxy nexus was just too old at the time and with no voice and data...
I have used gs3 and one x plenty, neither work as well as stock android. Touch wiz is buggy and takes away core features while adding new ones that don't work too well, aside from being very laggy compared to stock.
Sense is not bad, but multitasking on it is horrific, even if you root it.
Both aren't great with software updates, HTC ones never come and Samsung ones end up buggy in most cases.
Motorola ui thus far is too inferior to even consider. Point is, no thing really compared to stock in my opinion. You may see much better benchmarks on gs4 but I doubt day to day it'd prove as stable and smooth as n4.
So, to me... Yes, worth the money, specially considering you'd get one for less than $400 with no contract! My only major issue with n4 is the antenna, it is subpar compared to other devices, same was for gn.
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a year old lol its not even 5 month old yet came out the back end of November 2012

What I suggest is find a decently spec phone from sprint and put AOSP on the device and tweak the hell out of it.
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Yeah, i just bought one. I hear the camera is pretty bad, but i never take pictures. I'm sure if i need to it will work for me. Everything else I've heard is positive. Can't wait to get it. I'm going to be going from LTE to HSPA again though, that should still be plenty fast for me.

lol @ almost a year old. April 13th will be 5 months. And yes i would suggest it if you like stock android. If your more into skins and bloat, go for the HTC one or the S4 at nearly double the price.

Yeah, that's my fault. I thought they came out last summer, didn't know they were that new yet. I'm just tired of all the manufacturers screwing with the phones, and the constant problems. Plus the fact that you never see updates, ever. I have a OneX now, and im so tired of how sluggish and slow it is. Plus i have constant problems with it anymore.
Just hoping this is a good move. I can't wait to get it and start using it.

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Yeah, that's my fault. I thought they came out last summer, didn't know they were that new yet. I'm just tired of all the manufacturers screwing with the phones, and the constant problems. Plus the fact that you never see updates, ever. I have a OneX now, and im so tired of how sluggish and slow it is. Plus i have constant problems with it anymore.
Just hoping this is a good move. I can't wait to get it and start using it.
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updates are immediately, you will never regret a Nexus phone

I've asked myself the same questions as yourself before buying myself the nexus 4.
First, looking at timeline of nexus device releases, I've noticed it releases one at every year. So i assume the next nexus phone will only be here by November-December 2013 even if it will be announced at the May Google I/O.
Galaxy S4 is indeed a great device specwise (even better if you can get the 8 core version). But for me, it's still not a Nexus device, the build quality must be inferior to the current Nexus 4 (based on S3), looks exactly like the S3 which is EXTREMELY popular device (not unique), and the Nexus 4 is much more affordable priced.
HTC One, the only thing that will attract me over the nexus 4 is the full aluminum body. Not a Sense fan. That's it.
So with all those, i ended up with the Nexus 4 and I don't regret it.

Its not even halfway to a year old. Its not outdated hardware. S4 Pro is still one of Qualcomms fastest chips. and the Snapdragon 600 uses the same gpu "Adreno 320"

Almost a year? N4 might be too complicated for you.
And yeah google will release another nexus phone...probably 7months from. The N4 is still the best android phone out and it is the best out of the box android device I've used in 4yrs of android by far.

Its blazing fast despite using an older soc. Faster as there's hardly any overlay on it. Next phone will probably be the X phone which will rumoured boasts the S800 which will be fast but the N4 is no slouch.
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0rigin said:
Nexus 4 was released in November. Today it's the 1st of April. Yep, almost a year, only some 7 months short..
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And most people didn't get their until January!
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