Face unlock - Galaxy S III General (US Carriers)

I am coming from a rezound running different ics roms. I never used face unlock on that device because it didn't always work, and when it did it took a while. I think the front facing camera also wasn't aimed properly.
Now on the gs3 I find face unlock works great. It often unlocks before I really even registered the lock screen after pressing the power button. Now I become annoyed at the few times it doesn't work so fast. After such an instance I will go straight to security settings and improve face recognition for that scenario. It's working great and I've probably done 30+ improvements.
Now I am interested in finding a way to back up the recognition data so I can keep it across the various rom flashes I expect to come.
Any ideas?
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I found adding multiple pictures (improving facial recognition setting) helps a bunch. I've taken pictures in the car, outside, in the house, in low light, in bright sun light, etc...
I have a full beard, my son does not... and he added his face ONCE, and now it will unlock for him too :laugh: however it will NOT unlock for my other son......
Having the face unlock is having your phone locked, but not really for you... since I never (rarely) have to enter a passcode or swipe code... For me, the phone just unlocks. But for others, its still secure. FACE UNLOCK IS AWESOME.

I was surprised at how accurate and fast it was. As you said, improving facial recognition in the settings really helps! You can even take a picture of yourself in sunglasses and it'll recognize you the next time.

Where do I change settings for it? It doesn't pick me up with sunglasses on or in other dark or bright places.
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colemac said:
Where do I change settings for it? It doesn't pick me up with sunglasses on or in other dark or bright places.
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Settings -> Security -> Improve Facial Recognition.
It has a hard time in bright or dark places, that's true.

but ppl can also take picture of you and unlock it right?
it sis not that secure

tabemasu88 said:
but ppl can also take picture of you and unlock it right?
it sis not that secure
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Quit making that a big deal, cause its not a big deal
For that to happen, someone would have to take your phone without your permission and then use a picture of you. Face unlock is more of a convenience feature. It says it right there before you even select face unlock. Besides, Samsung has made an option for those "paranoid" people. You can set it where it requires the face AND voice. Besides, we know what jellybean provides for face unlock. Face unlock security is an irrelevant issue. (No hate)

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By the same token, someone could get your pin code and unlock, or know your pattern to unlock...
I think the concept behind the face unlock is more for people like myself. I NEVER security lock my phone, I just don't. But, with the face lock/unlock the phone is security locked, but I almost never have to enter anything
I think its cool myself.... but I'm not one of those security paranoid people. NO FLAMING HERE... just saying, we all know those kinds of people, who hear about so&so security flaw and get ultra paranoid about it... like THEY are being targeted directly by some secret organization trying to steal the diary entry on their device that contains the secret of how many times they fed the dog! I don't think the face lock feature was introduced and designed to be the 256bit encrypted fingerprint checking solution to guarding your data... it's a freaking cool feature for the casual user :good: AND THATS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.

El Nivek said:
I was surprised at how accurate and fast it was. As you said, improving facial recognition in the settings really helps! You can even take a picture of yourself in sunglasses and it'll recognize you the next time.
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that was my biggest gripe .. having to take off my sunglasses for it to work. Never thought of adding sunglasses pics. thanks!
If i add some sunglasses pics do you think it'd let anyone with sunglasses unlock it?

tabemasu88 said:
but ppl can also take picture of you and unlock it right?
it sis not that secure
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If people are trying to access your phone using a picture you have bigger things to worry about.

^this.
Here are the scenarios:
1. Some one not close to me badly wants some data off my phone. - I don't really have data arbitrarily important to garner such atention, and they are still gonna have to go to an odd length to get it.
Furthermore, I don't have my phone storage or sd card encrypted because I am usually flashing new roms, so they can really get that data anyhow no matter what the lock mechanism if they want it badly enough.
2. Someone close to me wants data off my phone and is willing to make such a trespass.
- I don't have people like that close to me, sounds like a bad situation.
3. My phone is lost or stolen and I want time to remote wipe or track it.
- face unlock is sufficient.
For most people's purposes, face unlock is sufficient.
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Face unlock

As we know, the xperia arc will probably not receive face unlock in the ICS upgrade, but once we receive the update, do you think it'll be possible to port face unlock to work in the back camera?
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Possibly, but that'd be COMPLETELY useless.
This is an unwanted feature on LT15i
it is useles untill the cell phone doesnt have the front camera....
worst feauture in arc not having a single front camera
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I'm currently a HTC Desire S owner, looking at replacing my old DS soon, and this phone (Arc S) is firmly in my sights so I'm checking this section out to see what the Arc community is like. Stumbled across this thread and thought you might want the opinion of a front-facing camera owner...
Face unlock is a massive gimmick. Trust me you are missing nothing here. I have been able to have face unlock for ages using a third party app called Visidon App Lock. It works very well, and is very fast to recognise my face and unlock my phone.......as long as it's light enough.
A slight dingy or dark room, and obviously the front facing camera can't see your face well enough to make a match. You have to enter a manual bypass password each time this occurs. Before this occurs though you'll spend a good few seconds angling the phone about, pulling silly faces, and leaning towards a light source to try and get it to register. Anyone see you doing this thinks you have lost the plot.
Trust me after the novelty wears off and you'll just go back to an unlock pattern. They are quick, simple, and work in complete darkness! If you want a reliable face unlock, use your nose to enter the unlock pattern. It would probably be more reliable and people will still think you have lost the plot.
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I'm currently a HTC Desire S owner, looking at replacing my old DS soon, and this phone (Arc S) is firmly in my sights so I'm checking this section out to see what the Arc community is like. Stumbled across this thread and thought you might want the opinion of a front-facing camera owner...
Face unlock is a massive gimmick. Trust me you are missing nothing here. I have been able to have face unlock for ages using a third party app called Visidon App Lock. It works very well, and is very fast to recognise my face and unlock my phone.......as long as it's light enough.
A slight dingy or dark room, and obviously the front facing camera can't see your face well enough to make a match. You have to enter a manual bypass password each time this occurs. Before this occurs though you'll spend a good few seconds angling the phone about, pulling silly faces, and leaning towards a light source to try and get it to register. Anyone see you doing this thinks you have lost the plot.
Trust me after the novelty wears off and you'll just go back to an unlock pattern. They are quick, simple, and work in complete darkness! If you want a reliable face unlock, use your nose to enter the unlock pattern. It would probably be more reliable and people will still think you have lost the plot.
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I wrote that I find this feature completely useless and stupid but my post got deleted, probably due to the bluntness. But you managed to phrase it much much better, THANK YOU!!
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wnp_79 said:
If you want a reliable face unlock, use your nose to enter the unlock pattern. It would probably be more reliable and people will still think you have lost the plot.
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I cannot agree more of it! lol
Yes, there are things that sounds interesting but totally useless.
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I wrote that I find this feature completely useless and stupid but my post got deleted, probably due to the bluntness. But you managed to phrase it much much better, THANK YOU!!
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Nah u were right
And this is the second useless thread

Fingerprint scanner. Do you use it?

Just wondering what people thought of the fingerprint scanner? I tried it today and I feel like it works ok. Sometimes it gets it first try and other times its hit or miss. Still though, privacy is important. Only thing I wish is that you didn't have to swipe your finger to get it to unlock. Considering the size of the phone I wish you could just place it down anywhere on the home button and have it work.
Thoughts?
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At first I thought it was pointless, because it worked poorly for me. Now it reads every time. I'm not sure why the 2nd time took better. I know you can improve the chances by taking several (up to 6 I think) profiles of your finger. I use it with LastPass, which I love, that's good integration. I don't like it for locking the screen, I'm in my phone too much and it's just a slower operation. I agree, the sensor on the iPhone is way better, you don't even think about it. But I like having it for the password management.
I use it because foxfi requires a passcode more than just swipe. I use that. Works pretty good for me. Most times on first try
I absolutely use mine everyday. I think it's overlooked because of the bad rep that the s5 scanner had, this one is much improved. I agree that the iphone scanner is better but this one isn't bad at all granted you understand how to properly set it up. I wish you could lock individual apps with it but other than that I love it.
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I absolutely use mine everyday. I think it's overlooked because of the bad rep that the s5 scanner had, this one is much improved. I agree that the iphone scanner is better but this one isn't bad at all granted you understand how to properly set it up. I wish you could lock individual apps with it but other than that I love it.
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Maybe they'll do that with Lollipop and screen pinning?
Samsung? ?
Use mine.
The key is setting it up. When doing the 10 swipes use different angles and positions.
Once I set mine that route, 0 issues
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I absolutely use mine everyday. I think it's overlooked because of the bad rep that the s5 scanner had, this one is much improved. I agree that the iphone scanner is better but this one isn't bad at all granted you understand how to properly set it up. I wish you could lock individual apps with it but other than that I love it.
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Just wondering do you know how to reset it and start over. I want it to be able to read my left and right thumbs at different angles. The first time I did it I just used the same up down motion.
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Just wondering do you know how to reset it and start over. I want it to be able to read my left and right thumbs at different angles. The first time I did it I just used the same up down motion.
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Settings>finger scanner>fingerprint manager, once in you can add or delete fingerprints, just delete them all and set up as you wish.
I used it, until I noticed that I had a bunch of really thin vertical scratches on the button. Haven't used it since. Now I'm using the pattern for my lock screen.
I must have really abrasive fingers or something.
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I used it, until I noticed that I had a bunch of really thin vertical scratches on the button. Haven't used it since. Now I'm using the pattern for my lock screen.
I must have really abrasive fingers or something.
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i flashed a tmobile rom on DE, forgot to clear FP scanner. Now i am back to stock, i can't set it up or enable it.i get an error. so i'm doing the connect the dot unlock; i kinda like it cause its fast and i can use both hands.
I like the security of the finger print scanner. I tried removing it and using the the swipe to unlock feature, but found myself constantly using the finger print scanner out of habit so I just activated the feature again lol
I couldn't live without this feature now that I have it set up. This plus private mode have completely changed the way I manage my content and privacy. I love it.
i've honestly tried the fingerprint scanner so many times, and i always end up turning it off because it's frustrating and rarely reads my finger print.
Any tips?
Also what is Private mode ^
I saw it but haven't messed with it ,
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sprintuser1977 said:
Use mine.
The key is setting it up. When doing the 10 swipes use different angles and positions.
Once I set mine that route, 0 issues
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followed your advice, set up three different fingerprints for the same thumb in all and every angle, works every time now
Hardknockz313 said:
I like the security of the finger print scanner. I tried removing it and using the the swipe to unlock feature, but found myself constantly using the finger print scanner out of habit so I just activated the feature again lol
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Same here, once you get it right and get used to it you almost need it.
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Nope. Its one of like 47 useless (for me) features on my Note 4. It's simply, here's what I want: large screen that also looks awesome, removable battery, memory card slot, and lastly root. That's it, and I would possibly be even will to give up one, MAYBE two of those things. The Nexus 6 has one of the 4. The Note 4 has 3 of the 4, thus here I am, patiently waiting for root of the d.e. to get back in stock.
masri1987 said:
i've honestly tried the fingerprint scanner so many times, and i always end up turning it off because it's frustrating and rarely reads my finger print.
Any tips?
Also what is Private mode ^
I saw it but haven't messed with it ,
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followed your advice, set up three different fingerprints for the same thumb in all and every angle, works every time now
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Have tried it on my note 4 and my previous S5. Maybe im just to lazy to take the time to get used to it, but in the short time ive used it the thing just infuriates me. sometimes requiring several swipes to unlock. I do like apples approach to the scanner better. Huawei has a phone with one like apples but on the back. i think its the perfect solution. the whole Swipe part of it is what sucks. The whole thing will be a moot point for me when lollipop hits the note 4 as I will simply make my Gear S a trusted device and not have a code at all as long as it is paired. I really only need security in case i lose my phone or it gets stolen. Until then I'll just stick to the pattern unlock.
I like to swipe my thumb sideways because it's easier to do with one hand. This worked well when the phone was naked, but my seidio case lifts my thumb as I slide it and makes an unreadable scan most times. I've stopped using it as a result.
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Is the scanner only useful for logging in to the phone? The scanner on my HP laptop came with software to store passwords and enter them on Web sites and other places. That is how I'd like to use it.
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Is the scanner only useful for logging in to the phone? The scanner on my HP laptop came with software to store passwords and enter them on Web sites and other places. That is how I'd like to use it.
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Logging into the phone is the main use of it but you can also link it with PayPal to make purchases. Also I believe you can use it with last pass which is a password manager to log into different websites by scanning your finger.
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Found an app on play store that let's you lock individual apps with your fingerprint. It's called finger security (by Rick clephas) it's quite robust and handy. Thought I'd share my find.

Double tap to wake?

Anyone know how to get that on this phone? Didn't realize it wasnt part of the OS... Been on a pixel and didn't realize it was specific to that phone...
You would need to put it in a ROM (if/when available from the XDA community) or use an app. I miss the feature too but was expecting it as the Pixel was as close as you could get to stock Android minus a few of Google's "extra" touches. lol There is always a possibility that Essential will add it themselves... fingers crossed. lol
Personally I've had no luck with apps in the past so I'll leave that one up to you.
If it helps at all there is a lift to view notifications that is a halfway that is baked into stock android. It's located in the Settings > Display > Gestures > Lift to check phone
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You would need to put it in a ROM (if/when available from the XDA community) or use an app. I miss the feature too but was expecting it as the Pixel was as close as you could get to stock Android minus a few of Google's "extra" touches. lol There is always a possibility that Essential will add it themselves... fingers crossed. lol
Personally I've had no luck with apps in the past so I'll leave that one up to you.
If it helps at all there is a lift to view notifications that is a halfway that is baked into stock android. It's located in the Settings > Display > Gestures > Lift to check phone
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Thanks, I don't care for lift to view tho, and yes I knew roms could have it, we need a few more things to be released I believe for that to happen tho...
Was hoping there was an app... Didn't realize that that was one of the "extras" that Google put in there...
You can also press the power button once to wake to see notifications without having to lift the phone.
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Thanks, I don't care for lift to view tho, and yes I knew roms could have it, we need a few more things to be released I believe for that to happen tho...
Was hoping there was an app... Didn't realize that that was one of the "extras" that Google put in there...
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Just got done reading the Reddit posting with the essential team and Andy Rubin a few minutes ago. While I can't link the exact post one of the Essential team members pointed out they are looking into things like the double tap to wake gesture. They didn't say they were going to do it but it seemed like they were insinuating that we should "keep our eyes out"... Hopefully they do and we can get our missed features back!
They seemed pretty responsive on that AMA, I do hope we get this and other subtle features.
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It would make my day to have some touch gesture to wake implemented
I think swipe up would be even better
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Anyone know how to get that on this phone? Didn't realize it wasnt part of the OS... Been on a pixel and didn't realize it was specific to that phone...
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Double tap to wake needs to be baked into a rom; no app is going to be able to provide that -- especially if the phone isn't root.
And this feature certainly isn't a Pixel exclusive. I've had double tap to wake on my 1+1. And it's bake into my LG X Charge. Frankly, I do admit that I was shocked to fine out the PH1 didn't support double take to wake. That's fracking completely idiotic. Essential bombed in so many areas where it missed 'essential' features of any modern flagship smart phone.
Really hope this feature is baked into future updates from Essential.
I think all LG's have this now. Really missing it!
Yeah, I had double tap to wake on my HTC One M8 years ago. And ended up disabling it because of pocket wakes in my pants (I put the screen side facing my leg in my right front pocket). Skin is skin, and a thin cotton pocket liner still allows conductivity to the screen from your leg.
The problem was even worse because I don't like lock screens, when I wake my device I want it to be ready, not yet another swipe. So when it woke in my pocket, as it went on bumping against my leg, all kinds of crap happened, from pocket dialing to taking pictures of my junk (with flash!) to ordering a purse on Amazon.

Fingerprint Problems - Can it even be fixed with a future software update?

Yesterday my fingerprint was working about 90% of the time, today it's complete trash.
Also there is a setting in the phone where it will completely wipe and factory reset your device after 15 failed attempts. With this crappy scanner it's a good thing to uncheck this option before your phone gets wiped.
Can this problem even be fixed with a future software update or is it flawed hardware?
Not too happy about a $1,600. phone with a crappy fingerprint scanner.
Don't worry about the factory wiping aft 15 attempts. The phone will ask you for an alternate method (pin or pattern) to unlock the phone once the 5th fingerprint attempt fails.
I think Samsung will improve it with future updates, but not by much.
I would not hold out much hope for an improvement. If you want to see improvement you need to do three things:
1. You need to enroll your primary finger at least 2, ideally 3 times.
2. When you are enrolling your finger, don't follow the instructions to move your finger around, rather just naturally grip your device as you would when you grab your phone to unlock it, and only scan that way.
3. This is the most contentious one, but probably the biggest difference. Do not use any screen protector at all. Any physical barrier is a sound barrier, and therefore an ultrasonic sensor will perform worse the more layers of stuff there is on top of it.
dhorgas said:
I would not hold out much hope for an improvement. If you want to see improvement you need to do three things:
1. You need to enroll your primary finger at least 2, ideally 3 times.
2. When you are enrolling your finger, don't follow the instructions to move your finger around, rather just naturally grip your device as you would when you grab your phone to unlock it, and only scan that way.
3. This is the most contentious one, but probably the biggest difference. Do not use any screen protector at all. Any physical barrier is a sound barrier, and therefore an ultrasonic sensor will perform worse the more layers of stuff there is on top of it.
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I tried this once I got the phone enrolled my finger twice... problem solved..
One thing that the fingerprint sensor does not do well with, for some bizarre reason, is dry skin. If you have really dry fingers or the weather is very dry causing you to have dry fingertips, the sensor is definitely more prone to failure when scanning.
I also found one bug just a few minutes ago. If you have a Bixby routine running with widgets, you are required to unlock your phone to see the widgets, but the fingerprint sensor us disabled in this mode and needs you to explicitly press the unlock option before it will even scan.
A completely dry finger is the main problem. Try licking your finger and then try to unlock the phone. It would unlock the phone extremely fast and easy.
I don't know how this can be improved with a software update...
Fyi I am using the preinstalled screen protector. I agree that it would work much better without it. But I am afraid to leave the screen unprotected... What do you think?
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A completely dry finger is the main problem. Try licking your finger and then try to unlock the phone. It would unlock the phone extremely fast and easy.
I don't know how this can be improved with a software update...
Fyi I am using the preinstalled screen protector. I agree that it would work much better without it. But I am afraid to leave the screen unprotected... What do you think?
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lol,... and since the flu season isn't over yet, remember to wash your hands thoroughly before licking your fingers to avoid catching any bugs. Sorry, I know it's not that funny to deal with the fp sensor, it's just ridiculous. I personally went through that before sending it back and getting S10e. "my life is much better now..." :laugh:
Follow this, I get it 99% of the time.
$1,600. phone and I have to lick my finger to unlock the damn thing.
Guys it may seem stupid but I was reading a post about the S10+ fingerprint sensor and think I have the way it was supposed to be used figured out. They described using it as jabbing the screen
WHy wouldnt you use face unlock?
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WHy wouldnt you use face unlock?
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Because it's not supposed to be used on this device, it's unsafe and the S10 doesn't have an Iris scanner anymore, it will get fooled by a simple picture.
felloffthetruck said:
$1,600. phone and I have to lick my finger to unlock the damn thing.
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This comment made my day :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Corv0 said:
Because it's not supposed to be used on this device, it's unsafe and the S10 doesn't have an Iris scanner anymore, it will get fooled by a simple picture.
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Oh bugger, I was hanging to get this phone, but seems like alot ofannoying rushed out features..... god I hope its all fixed by updates in the near future!
Makes me want to keep using my s7E!
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$1,600. phone and I have to lick my finger to unlock the damn thing.
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Don't worry. Once the S11 comes out the FPS issues will be history and you will also get Android 10 plus the latest security patch, or at the very least one that's no more than 3 months old. That will be $2000 please.
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lol,... and since the flu season isn't over yet, remember to wash your hands thoroughly before licking your fingers to avoid catching any bugs. Sorry, I know it's not that funny to deal with the fp sensor, it's just ridiculous. I personally went through that before sending it back and getting S10e. "my life is much better now..." :laugh:
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Yes, I meant just for testing purposes...
barbs666 said:
Oh bugger, I was hanging to get this phone, but seems like alot ofannoying rushed out features..... god I hope its all fixed by updates in the near future!
Makes me want to keep using my s7E!
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Rushed out? What are you even talking about?
They clearly specified that Android's face unlock is crap and it should be deleted, except Samsung never deletes stock android features, just don't touch it and use the bloody world's most advanced fingerprint authentication.
Try keeping hands moisturized with lotion instead of spitting :crying:. i use a lot of alcohol at work which dries my fingers out. after using lotion finger print worked a lot better. Keep Moisturized boys and girls lol
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$1,600. phone and I have to lick my finger to unlock the damn thing.
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Definitely a two step security thing. Now your wife / husband has to lick your finger first for unlocking your device while you're sleeping
Guys, very good tip that actually works great. Watch the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsN0HAGL-94

[Q] How good is the fingerprint reader?

Not how convenient is the placement - I can tell that in store, what I can't tell and most reviews doen't mention is mean how quickly and reliably does it recognise your fingerprint and how often does it miss, particularly are there any circumstances under which it consistently has trouble?
My current phone is a Galaxy S8, before that I had a Pixel. I plan on getting a new one in the next month or so, short listed to Galaxy S10+ or Pixel3 XL. One of my favourite things about the Pixel is the fingerprint reader, which worked pretty much first time, every time - when I picked it up the phone was unlocked by the time I was looking at the screen. The S8 not so much; I can work around the smaller, less well placed reader but it often has trouble reading my finger print. I've reregistered, rebooted, cleaned the reader etc many times, to no effect, it still has trouble particularly if my hands are cold (for a certain value of cold, never below freezing around here), skin is dry, skin is wet etc...
My partner has my old pixel, I still have a fingerprint registered on it and the pixel still consistently reads it first time, even when the S8 can't.
For me this is one of the make or break features on a phone, it's not covered in reviews and will be hard to test in store, so I'm asking this community - how good is the fingerprint reader on this phone?
(I'm posting this on both the Pixel 3XL and S10+ forums, apologies to those who follow both)
Honestly it works fine for me, but i dont use it much, I use the face unluck, any reason why you guys prefer fingerprint over face unluck ?
Raul77 said:
Honestly it works fine for me, but i dont use it much, I use the face unluck, any reason why you guys prefer fingerprint over face unluck ?
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Yeah, they implemented the ultrasound sensor to make sure this type of authentication can't be attacked.
Face unlock is a flawed method and this phone doesn't even have the hardware to do a proper face authentication, it can be fooled by a picture.
Samsung should have disabled it but chose not to remove any stock Android features, so it is still present.
Regarding my experience with the fp sensor, it took some time to get used to the position but once that happened it's pretty much 10/10, definitely the fastest scanner I ever tried.
It is very sensitive to how you register it the first time, you need to register it in a natural position and it will work perfectly.
Fingerprint is very inconsistent for me. I've tried every method for success and it's just very hit and miss. I really use face unlock more just for my own convenience. I know it's really not secure but my phone never is never far away.
clownin72 said:
Fingerprint is very inconsistent for me. I've tried every method for success and it's just very hit and miss. I really use face unlock more just for my own convenience. I know it's really not secure but my phone never is never far away.
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This.
Face unlock is basically all I use. Miss the note 9 and my pixel 3 xl fingerprint sensor dearly!
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You should ask how bad is the finger print unlocked instead how good. For me need two or three to unlock the screen
I really wish they would have left it on the back. It was flawless back there on my s8 plus. I love everything else on the phone but that. If it was more reliable this would be a non issue
When you get used to it, it's still only like 80% accurate. Randomly it will unlock super fast and other times it fails alot. It's really average.
I'd say about 90% but it is getting better. I haven't installed my white stone dome glass and currently using zaggs. I think more people are having trouble finding the sensor and placing their finger on top of it. Try turning the screen on to see where you need to hit and get use to it. After I've learned where it is, unlocking using fp has significantly improved at least through this screen protector
I was having issues until I added an additional finger but kept it the same one I have setup already. Now it works flawlessly.
When I initially got my phone (2 days before release) I registered my fingerprints ASAP. I did each finger twice and it worked alright, not the greatest but I assumed it was just a learning curve and muscle memory that I had to develop. I installed the newest update (ASBA) and it didn't seem to improve, initially. I removed my fingerprints and added them back, this time only once per finger and it honestly works better than before. I didn't do anything special when I deleted and added them again. I wonder if the fingerprints need to be added again after the ASBA update to actually benefit from the improved fingerprint recognition, as it appears that way for myself.
Fingerprints that are added on the s10 & s10+ get better over time with some ai trickery, google search s10 fingerprint ai, theres a sammobile read up...
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In my S10+ is as bad as my A7 2017, I mostly use Face Unlock with "faster recognition " disabled, with that option off it won't be fooled with a picture anymore.
Outbreak444 said:
When I initially got my phone (2 days before release) I registered my fingerprints ASAP. I did each finger twice and it worked alright, not the greatest but I assumed it was just a learning curve and muscle memory that I had to develop. I installed the newest update (ASBA) and it didn't seem to improve, initially. I removed my fingerprints and added them back, this time only once per finger and it honestly works better than before. I didn't do anything special when I deleted and added them again. I wonder if the fingerprints need to be added again after the ASBA update to actually benefit from the improved fingerprint recognition, as it appears that way for myself.
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I re registered them again after the update, and its like lightning now!!! THX!:highfive:
Outbreak444 said:
When I initially got my phone (2 days before release) I registered my fingerprints ASAP. I did each finger twice and it worked alright, not the greatest but I assumed it was just a learning curve and muscle memory that I had to develop. I installed the newest update (ASBA) and it didn't seem to improve, initially. I removed my fingerprints and added them back, this time only once per finger and it honestly works better than before. I didn't do anything special when I deleted and added them again. I wonder if the fingerprints need to be added again after the ASBA update to actually benefit from the improved fingerprint recognition, as it appears that way for myself.
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iteam said:
I re registered them again after the update, and its like lightning now!!! THX!:highfive:
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Had never issues with fingerprint reader. As I wrote somewhere else, best thing is to press softly when registering it and touch the sensor sometimes more right, left, up and down as you usually don´t hit the sensor exactly in the center in daily use. Anyway there was a little latency until screen woke up and maybe in one of ten cases it didn't work at the first time.
Now I did what you suggested. I deleted the former fingerprint and set a new one. And it´s not only some kind of feeling, it´s indeed much better now. Latency nearly has gone and the fingerprint recognition works absolutely perfect now. So thanks a lot for your advise. Obviously it is not the "AI" of the device but the "user intelligence" Samsung is learning from. The recent update did it - fixed it. Great now, thanks!!!!
It basically sucks. Anyone that says they have no problem with it are full of SH*T
Not very good.
felloffthetruck said:
It basically sucks. Anyone that says they have no problem with it are full of SH*T
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I agree with you, is crap, I have to touch several times and if my skin is dry because of the climate compared to when I registered the fingerprints (much less climate), much worse.
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I agree with you, is crap, I have to touch several times and if my skin is dry because of the climate compared to when I registered the fingerprints (much less climate), much worse.
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I'd say that's the biggest issue. It has difficulty recognizing your finger when it is dry (and that is according to the climate). When I registered them initially it worked great because my hands were slightly more humid.
At times I have to rub my hands on my hair or something to get it to recognize the fingerprint. There has to be something that Samsung can do to fix this. Especially given that this is the only secure method to unlock your phone.
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It basically sucks. Anyone that says they have no problem with it are full of SH*T
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Maybe you're actually just a reptile, or alien race? Honestly, I have no problems at all with the scanner. I don't understand what the people who do have the problems are doing because IMO it has to be user error. I'm not saying it's flawless, but I never have to re-attempt a scan more than once. Which is pretty much on par with how often I'd need to retry with my S8+.
Now, I don't use a tempered glass protector, only the factory one that came with it so that might be an issue some people face. But honestly, everyone who wines about the fingerprint scanner are probably just too stupid to use it properly or something.

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