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"We’ve just received confirmation from Best Buy that the XOOM pre-sale has been pushed to the 20th."
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/16/xoom-pre-sale-at-best-buy-moved-to-february-20/
This sucks, I had already made plans to stop by tomorrow. Hopefully the release doesn't get pushed too.
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"We’ve just received confirmation from Best Buy that the XOOM pre-sale has been pushed to the 20th."
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/16/xoom-pre-sale-at-best-buy-moved-to-february-20/
This sucks, I had already made plans to stop by tomorrow. Hopefully the release doesn't get pushed too.
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This is a bad omen. The only reason I can think of, to push a pre-order date, is because the release date or some other launch detail isn't ready. Last minute OS bug maybe?
You should also know that you won’t be able to re-activate the data package on this device whenever you like at no cost. An activation charge will be enforced each time you re-activate.
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What a friggin scam. The whole benefit of CDMA is the lack of nonsense with SIM cards, and month to month isn't really month to month with activation costs.
Hopefully the delay is caused by the introduction of the WiFi only version? Seems logical to me..
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Hopefully the delay is caused by the introduction of the WiFi only version? Seems logical to me..
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I would be absolutely excited if the WiFi only was coming too. I personally don't see it happening, but hey if I'm wrong then by all means I'll be wrong and happy at the same time.
On the activation fee each time. I wonder if that's a Verizon thing or a BestBuy thing, as they said they don't want to encourage customers to cancel after the first month because they don't get their bonus until the customer keeps it active for 2 months or more.
It could be for the WiFi version. They pushed it back at Motorola's request, and Motorola released the detailed specs on their website today (no difference besides lack of 3G.)
We'll have to wait and see..
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On the activation fee each time. I wonder if that's a Verizon thing or a BestBuy thing, as they said they don't want to encourage customers to cancel after the first month because they don't get their bonus until the customer keeps it active for 2 months or more.
It could be for the WiFi version. They pushed it back at Motorola's request, and Motorola released the detailed specs on their website today (no difference besides lack of 3G.)
We'll have to wait and see..
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Apparently I'm blind, I don't see any mention on their site about the WiFi only XOOM, care to share the link you're seeing it at?
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Apparently I'm blind, I don't see any mention on their site about the WiFi only XOOM, care to share the link you're seeing it at?
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http://developer.motorola.com/products/xoom-mz604/
Most likely it was a Verizon decision. Month to month is essentially a contract and will automatically bill you each month, but unlike a true contract you can cancel at any time, no strings attached. The fact that they charge an activation fee makes it contractual, because if it were truly month to month you'd pay each month at any time with no obligations, like an MMORPG subscription.
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On the activation fee each time. I wonder if that's a Verizon thing or a BestBuy thing, as they said they don't want to encourage customers to cancel after the first month because they don't get their bonus until the customer keeps it active for 2 months or more.
It could be for the WiFi version. They pushed it back at Motorola's request, and Motorola released the detailed specs on their website today (no difference besides lack of 3G.)
We'll have to wait and see..
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I actually think you may be right. I dont remember seeing the wifi model (then again i dont check reguarly) and is it coincidence that sanjay jha said it would be around 600 the same day this is announced? By the sequence of events going on, I can see them delaying preorder 3 days to add the information to their servers. It also gives moto a little more time to ship out. If the preorder was delayed then the release date is probably moved back too. I know it can be alot of things but given the evidence starting with the leaked price, following the fcc leak of the wifi version, and sanjay saying how much the wifi version is (why announce how much it is if it wasnt near release?), i believe that is the closest reasoning to why it wass moved back.
sounds like good reasoning. hope that is certainly the case. I think the public response to the verizon version might have moto shifting things around a bit.
Actually, they confirmed both prices today. They had never officially announced the price of either until today.
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Actually, they confirmed both prices today. They had never officially announced the price of either until today.
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yea, when i said leaked price, i was referring to the reaction to it. i think that spurred on to maybe an earlier release of wifi model than expected. of course it is just speculation but i think its also realistic.
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yea, when i said leaked price, i was referring to the reaction to it. i think that spurred on to maybe an earlier release of wifi model than expected. of course it is just speculation but i think its also realistic.
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The response to the Verizon version was very possibly the strongest response to a products pricing in modern times . This is the first of an army of real Android Tablets. Android is an industry juggernaut and all eyes are on Motorola to get this right. Motorola being an old-fashioned OEM might not be privvy to the groundswell of public dissatisfaction, but their partner Google sure as hell is.
Delay
They believe the delay is because the Motorola Atrix is releasing sooner then expected. As in next week, so they pushed the pre-order back for the Xoom allowing the Atrix to sell and take pre-orders a few days later for the Xoom
Here is the link from engadget http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/16/motorola-pushes-up-atrix-4g-launch-to-feb-22-shoves-xoom-pre-s/
I will be the 1st person at bestbuy on sunday..i hear the xoom gets 10 hours on battery life !!!... my Dell streak 7 could barely do 3 hours..it's going back today !!
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I will be the 1st person at bestbuy on sunday..i hear the xoom gets 10 hours on battery life !!!... my Dell streak 7 could barely do 3 hours..it's going back today !!
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So, I've been lied to by Asus' chosen retailers, and I've seen people who placed orders after me receive tracking numbers, while my own shipments are indefinitely backordered. It seems I'm not alone in that.
I have no choice but to cancel my orders in a week from now, because I'll be out of the country with my family for two weeks, and nobody will be around to collect deliveries. Given that the 48 hours we'll be spending in airports and airplanes was one of the key reasons I decided to buy the Transformer now rather than waiting for something better, I almost certainly won't be buying one on my return -- once my orders are cancelled, it's game over for Asus.
I was utterly disgusted to see that instead of apologizing for the inconvenience, or giving even vague information as to when they'll be providing more stock, Asus had the audacity to post about how we "love" them on their Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/asus...mer-sold-out-in-north-america/194700557240017
There's plenty of info in the US retail availability thread, but it's hidden in 400 pages of posts. Hence, I thought it might be a good idea to collect together all of the unhappy, would-be customers who've been lied to and mistreated by Asus' launch partners in one place, where Asus can see that love is not an emotion we're feeling right now, and that we're extremely unhappy about how we've been treated.
Air your grievances here. Have you been lied to? Have you been passed over for shipments by retailers, when those who ordered after you are receiving their tablets?
Tell Asus exactly how you feel. If you have plans to cancel your order after a certain date, let us know when. And if the way you've been treated by their retailers has persuaded you not to do business with them or Asus again, don't be shy about saying so.
Personally, Asus has 7 days to get my tablet to a retailer who will actually ship it to me. If they don't, I won't be buying an Asus product, ever again.
I placed my order around 3AM with amazon, as of now, still no activity on the order... while people who ordered after me got it.
I think it may have to do with the fact that my order showed up as coming from Target.com/ITC or something but now its showing amazon LLC.
Then I placed order with Datavision, who over sold and have gotten the money back.
Then I placed order with TigerDirect and they, it seems over sold as well and have been hearing and reading lies from them since yesterday.
Asus screwed up big time!
So you're blaming Asus? Awesome. Doesn't sound like you've been an early adopter before.
You aren't alone Knox; I ordered mine at the same time as you did. I'm pretty sure we were chatting in the IRC room while we were waiting for it to get released.
I talked to an Amazon rep yesterday who guaranteed me the product would arrive on the estimated delivery date. I talked to another one today after the shipping info wasn't updated and that rep basically stated the previous rep lied to me and that I would not be receiving my product as expected.
I'm throughly upset because I could have ordered it from another retailer at the time and received my TF tomorrow or Friday.
I'm not sure if I'm going to cancel now and get the Acer or wait a week to see if I actually get the TF.
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Asus didn't provide sufficient supply for the launch, have provided no information on when more stock is expected, tried to spread what tiny stock they had across too many retailers, didn't require their retailers to sell first-come first-served, and failed to supply *any* accessories or 32GB tablets at all.
I'd say they shoulder a very large part of the blame.
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" hey guys retailers lied to us and mistreated us! let's blame Asus!"
You two sure are American.
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Actually, I'm not. I'm British. And raised in Asia. But feel free to throw around childish stereotypes in any other thread you like, just not this one, please.
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Personally, Asus has 7 days to get my tablet to a retailer who will actually ship it to me. If they don't, I won't be buying an Asus product, ever again.
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this alone makes me believe you are crying over spilt milk.
its a early launch. supplies are limited. all asus did was supply the product to retailers. how the retailers handle it is their business not asus's. if you're that hardcore about raging over the retailers that you wont buy another asus product, you have issues.
To be quite honest, I'm sure that ASUS has given away more free tablets to reviewers, contests (both twitter and facebook), college student "representatives", etc. than they sold... how exactly are they making money on these tablets? LOL
Have you even read the engadget post? it clearly states it's unknown whether it's because of limited supplies or huge demand or both.
Asus had already said there would be limited supplies in a statement, and the point still stands, if they had built up stock first you still wouldn't have it now since it wouldn't have been released for a while.
In essence you're just sour grapes because some people got one of the limited supplies and you didn't. And if you can't have it no one can have it.
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this alone makes me believe you are crying over spilt milk.
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If you read my entire post, you would see I have no choice but to cancel my order in 7 days, because there will be nobody in the country to receive shipments.
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To be quite honest, I'm sure that ASUS has given away more free tablets to reviewers, contests (both twitter and facebook), college student "representatives", etc. than they sold... how exactly are they making money on these tablets? LOL
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Yup, and each of those came with a dock, while they haven't sold a single dock in the entire US market.
i bet you will be buying another asus product because they make many components for other companies
I think the main problem was the race to launch first, certainly in the UK. In the US the Xoom has been out for a while, which is why I think Asus wanted to concentrate more on the UK (makes a nice change!) so that they could pip Motorola to the post with the UK launch. The Xoom was originally set to come out on the 9th April, and at the last minute Asus managed to get a limited number of units out to uk shops around the 6th, although I didn't discover this until after that date.
Truth is that I would have bought the first tegra2 tablet that came out in the UK, and I had been waiting (mistakenly) for the xoom on the 9th. On that day I got out of bed, went down to PC World and tried to get one, only to be told they had been delayed until middle of June. A couple of days later after reading more about the transformer I found out a local Comet had one in stock so I bought it. A few days later I noticed PC world had the Xoom in.
My point of this very long story is that this is just happening this time round with this set of tablets because the manufacturers are rushing to get their tablets out to the masses and be first. I think everything will settle down soon and people won't feel 'lied' to once the availability is sorted out. Asus could have given a more solid date, granted, but like seshmaru said, if they'd held on to stocks until they'd had enough to go round, then nobody would currently have one.
You can't really blame Asus for the retailer's actions. If Asus hadn't given them a solid date or numbers of shipments expected, then the retailers shouldn't really be advertising the product for sale, or should at least inform the customer they aren't definite dates. They only make the things, without having their own entire distribution arm like Apple, they can't control what retailers do!
Still sucks for you man going on holiday! I've been there, waiting for gadgets to come before a trip away and they haven't arrived, it's not fun!
Think on the positive side man, if the only reason you bought this was to use for a trip, then buy yourself a good book instead, and bam! Saved yourself £400! I'd invest that money into training a monkey butler.
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i bet you will be buying another asus product because they make many components for other companies
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Can you people go troll some other thread, please?
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@Therm, I said you two, referring to dot and knox.
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So you're blaming Asus? Awesome. Doesn't sound like you've been an early adopter before.
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Who else is responsible for this fiasco?
It's not like they didn't see this coming after they botched the UK launch.
AT LEAST a few folks in the UK got the keyboard docks - from everything I've seen in the US "launch", no one received a keyboard dock.
So yes, Asus, how do you "launch" a product with such insufficient stock - and with ZERO keyboard docks - which btw is the PRIMARY feature that sets your "Transformer" apart from other tablets?
There would be a lot more happy customers if, following the UK debacle, Asus *announced* that the US launch would happen in May - or June - or whatever it takes to actually have an ample supply on on hand - and oh yeah KEYBOARDS too!
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So you're blaming Asus? Awesome. Doesn't sound like you've been an early adopter before.
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Forgot to add, ASUS is the one that announced the launch on 4/26 - with a list of retailers on their own page. Yet several of those retailers (sears.com, staples.com, officemax.com, officedepot.com etc) NEVER even received stock.
How do you announce a launch date - and retailers - but don't supply those retailers with any units?
Yes, in my opinion, that falls on Asus.
I think blaming the retailer and the supplier can be split into two separate debates.
The retailer, reseller, gougers, etc; that is just the nature of the business. How they handle their customer is independent to each store and that is where your money speaks loudest.
Amazon I feel did an amazing job. Their order system processed all orders with no crashes up until they were sold out. Once sold out, they site updated to backorder. When you place an order, you assume the risk of delays and backorders. How heavy handed you want to be on a company is up to you but does not change the fact that when you make a purchase, you play by their rules.
As for ASUS, I think they did a terrible job. They put one posting of low quantity on facebook for UK. Then for US post, they have a huge banner that says "On shelves on 4/26". There was not a single item on any retailer's shelves. There were no communication with their retailers to give them constant updates on status. They release the Keyboard Dock but have absolutely no availability. Communication was terrible to their customer and their retailer which are their customers as well.
ASUS needs to get their act together if they want to attempt to compete with Apple. Hell, even a multibillion dollar company like Apple makes mistakes, but they sure know how to launch a product and connect with their consumers and retailers (strict pricing, etc).
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Who else is responsible for this fiasco?
It's not like they didn't see this coming after they botched the UK launch.
AT LEAST a few folks in the UK got the keyboard docks - from everything I've seen in the US "launch", no one received a keyboard dock.
So yes, Asus, how do you "launch" a product with such insufficient stock - and with ZERO keyboard docks - which btw is the PRIMARY feature that sets your "Transformer" apart from other tablets?
There would be a lot more happy customers if, following the UK debacle, Asus *announced* that the US launch would happen in May - or June - or whatever it takes to actually have an ample supply on on hand - and oh yeah KEYBOARDS too!
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"I can't get one so no one should get one"
btw UK launchdate didn't have the dock either, and the dock is an accessory, accessories are released at a later date more often.
If they had waited the Iconia a500 would possibly have gained momentum, (which it didn't, but it could've) this is the best strategy for Asus seeing as demand is far exceeding the supply, it's been a raging success for them. Besides they promised a Q1 launch around march last year, at least they stuck to their word without any launch delays.
I remember specifically on Engadget and now when Google numerous sites say June 16th. But yet now I'm hearing the 17th ? Which is pretty bananas as I took off Thursday working a double Friday.
I've always heard it was the 17th, on Friday.
Here is the press release from samsung.com.
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/newsRead.do?news_seq=19862&page=1&gltype=localnews
"Premium Android Honeycomb Tablet with Ultra-slim, Lightweight Design and Brilliant 10-inch Touchscreen Available Exclusively at Best Buy Union Square Store in New York City Starting June 8; Available Nationwide Starting June 17"
Though maybe you could get lucky and find a retailer that starts selling early?
PS. Maybe online retailers will start shipping on the 16th so that it could arrive at customers homes by the 17th?
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I remember specifically on Engadget and now when Google numerous sites say June 16th. But yet now I'm hearing the 17th ? Which is pretty gay as I took off Thursday working a double Friday.
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Where did you see/hear 16th?
Idk I'm not retarded I feel that way. But if you even Google Samsung 10.1 June 16th many sites say its the release date. Honestly I have been tabletless for over a month waiting if retailers sell out Friday while I work a double I'm gonna have to get a f***king Xoom
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Where did you see/hear 16th?
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oN Engadget the day it was released in NYC on the eighth. Its hard to find exact URL I'm using my cell
No worries, I hadn't heard anything about the 16th until you mentioned it. The sooner the better, depending on price though.
no it's been the 17th. i just hope that samsung doesn't pull another fast one and make it a release for New Jersey only now, and push the "official" release again another week
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no it's been the 17th. i just hope that samsung doesn't pull another fast one and make it a release for New Jersey only now, and push the "official" release again another week
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(With Extreme Sarcasm) What on earth would make you think a company would ever try to do something like that??
I mean gosh that would be like telling everybody the update for your phone you made is coming soon then releasing it six months later.
Or like vague references to Dual Application Processor and then start using the actual brand name a few days before launch.
Or like telling everyone your tablet you make is launching on a specific date only to launch in one store that date and pushing back the full launch one week
Or like telling everyone that folks in your one store launch can only have one specific model after they lined up after hearing about your one store launch two-step move.....
Or like showing an MicroSD card slot on your tablet at every conference and uTube video only to launch without one and require a non existant cellular radio version purchase to *possibly* have a MicroSD card slot.
(And I preordered a Galaxy Tab. I guess Samsung is to me what a abusive white trash husband is to his spouse. Beat me as you may, I will always come back....)
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(With Extreme Sarcasm) blah blah blah
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Meh. The only **** move Sammy pulled was not disclosing that the NY pre-sale was limited to the white 16GB model. None of the other stuff is unusual, let alone worthy of whining.
Can we expect the device to be instore on 17th ?
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Idk I'm not retarded I feel that way. But if you even Google Samsung 10.1 June 16th many sites say its the release date. Honestly I have been tabletless for over a month waiting if retailers sell out Friday while I work a double I'm gonna have to get a f***king Xoom
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I advise you not to resort to such drastic measures. I owned a xoom. Trust me breddren, you don't want to do that.
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Meh. The only **** move Sammy pulled was not disclosing that the NY pre-sale was limited to the white 16GB model. None of the other stuff is unusual, let alone worthy of whining.
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Ah so not funny to you at all, got it.......
Has anyone heard of other b&m's other than bb that will have it on the 17th?
RickyMaxX said:
I advise you not to resort to such drastic measures. I owned a xoom. Trust me breddren, you don't want to do that.
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huh ? I've owned 2 Xooms. The Xoom is an incredible device. Beats this in almost all specs minus form factor and weight. I'm buying this solely on its size.
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huh ? I've owned 2 Xooms. The Xoom is an incredible device. Beats this in almost all specs minus form factor and weight. I'm buying this solely on its size.
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The screen is a big ball player as well...and the Xoom is definately lacking in that position.
Continue with your life.. relax its almost weekend and fathers day is coming
The Xoom-VA-Panel is not bad... its good, but it doesnt kill!!!
Seriously, it's releasing in 2 days and no pricing or availability details??
This is ridiculous.
Has a company ever announced a product and simply never released it?
Others are noticing this too:
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/9/22/4759120/wheres-the-samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition
Probably the tablet won't release in 2 days...
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Probably the tablet won't release in 2 days...
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Frakking liars.
September 25, pshh.
I thought Samsung said October release... at least for the USA .
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I thought Samsung said October release... at least for the USA .
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Yes, but Sept 25 for over 100 countries. If there was such a massive launch scheduled within 2 days, don’t you think we’d hear something about it? Pricing, which European stores were going to carry it, unboxing videos, hands-on reviews with retail units, etc.
But nothing!
So this makes me think that those countries aren’t getting it soon. And if they are delayed, then you better believe we will be, too.
This blows.
In italy nobody have notice about the new Note...
I did a quick search for Samsung's IFA 2013 announcement's and The Verge noted the GN10.1 2014 Edition was slated for an October release with no specific date provided. Just figures.
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Yes, but Sept 25 for over 100 countries. If there was such a massive launch scheduled within 2 days, don’t you think we’d hear something about it? Pricing, which European stores were going to carry it, unboxing videos, hands-on reviews with retail units, etc.
But nothing!
So this makes me think that those countries aren’t getting it soon. And if they are delayed, then you better believe we will be, too.
This blows.
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I have seen no official release date from Samsung for anywhere. I have seen speculation all over the place including Sept 24, Sept 25 and Oct 4. Nut all of those dates have come from blogs and rss news, nothing official.
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According to this article it won't be available in Canada until November.
http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/122...5-great-items-to-its-galaxy-family-of-devices
According to Samsung Switzerland (on Facebook) we'll be getting it 'mid-october', the LTE version 'end of october'.
For a device that's supposed to be available in three weeks, I find this lack of information very strange.
I don't get why so many tech companies don't get this. This is why Apple is as successful as it is, they don't pull this kind of thing.
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According to Samsung Switzerland (on Facebook) we'll be getting it 'mid-october', the LTE version 'end of october'.
For a device that's supposed to be available in three weeks, I find this lack of information very strange.
I don't get why so many tech companies don't get this. This is why Apple is as successful as it is, they don't pull this kind of thing.
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Galaxy Note 3 (deservedly) Galaxy Gear (not so deservedly) is taking all the attention it appears. However, they could throw us a bone here and there. I know that they don't expect a lot of sales but still, as I said in another thread, if you want to gain loyal customers, you don't pull this kind of stuff.
Pull what kind of stuff?
They showed a upcoming product, never announced a release date, and have yet to do so (likely because they don't have one yet). I'm not sure what the alternative is other than to just make one up and then miss it?
Personally I'd rather them wait to announce anything until it's a sure bet and I respect them for that.
Nothing pisses me off more than having a release date and it gets missed or there is a shortage.
I really don't understand the current hysteria lol...
Looks like this may shed some light on when it's coming....
http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/09/23/s...-and-galaxy-s4-mini-to-canada-on-october-4th/
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I'm selling my current note and moving on to the surface pro or either the Lenovo yoga 11s. I was going to get the new note but I need more power.
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It's impossible
I don't want buy the tablet at November, i need this before.
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It's impossible
I don't want buy the tablet at November, i need this before.
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My Prediction based on the roll out of roms for the Wifi & WIFI+3G Variants
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457074
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457071
That these variants will be released as rumored before end of September early October. ( which seems promising for Middle east, Africa & European countries )
The LTE 4G version seems to be released on a later stage - probably November. ( For North America )
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My Prediction based on the roll out of roms for the Wifi & WIFI+3G Variants
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457074
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457071
That these variants will be released as rumored before end of September early October. ( which seems promising for Middle east, Africa & European countries )
The LTE 4G version seems to be released on a later stage - probably November. ( For North America )
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I will buy the 4G edition...
Will see, samsung fail atm!
Screw this. If they keep us in the dark, I'll just go with IPad 5.
Bring on the flamers, I don't care.
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Pull what kind of stuff?
They showed a upcoming product, never announced a release date, and have yet to do so (likely because they don't have one yet). I'm not sure what the alternative is other than to just make one up and then miss it?
Personally I'd rather them wait to announce anything until it's a sure bet and I respect them for that.
Nothing pisses me off more than having a release date and it gets missed or there is a shortage.
I really don't understand the current hysteria lol...
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I agree, a release date that is announced but then not honored is also very annoying.
What I mean is that they announce a device, with some kind of release date (at least an approximate one; at least in some areas) but yet there is very little information (for example the price) out there fore interested customers.
In my opinion, if you announce a device you need to be able to present a release schedule and reccommended retail pricing. Otherwise people are going to get excited about your device at the announcement but then get frustrated during the wait of indeterminate length.
This is the example that I experienced: The Note is announced at the end of august. Weeks later, online stores (where I live) still didn't have it in their catalogue and asking customer support, they said they had no info about it, be it price, release date or even if they will have it, because they were not informed by samsung. When the new iPhones were announced the stores had them in their catalogues on the same day, pricing, release date and all. Today you can buy the new iPhones, which were announced two weeks after the Note, of which there is still no sight.
From a marketing point of view it just doesn't make sense to me. You spend a lot of money and effort announcing your device, trying to get people excited over it. But because people can not act on their excitement (for a long time) all that energy just dissipates, instead of it going into pre-orders/sales.
well you can play with the firmware already ;] i uploaded it to my server for fast dl http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457067 njoy
The_Maverick said:
I agree, a release date that is announced but then not honored is also very annoying.
What I mean is that they announce a device, with some kind of release date (at least an approximate one; at least in some areas) but yet there is very little information (for example the price) out there fore interested customers.
In my opinion, if you announce a device you need to be able to present a release schedule and reccommended retail pricing. Otherwise people are going to get excited about your device at the announcement but then get frustrated during the wait of indeterminate length.
This is the example that I experienced: The Note is announced at the end of august. Weeks later, online stores (where I live) still didn't have it in their catalogue and asking customer support, they said they had no info about it, be it price, release date or even if they will have it, because they were not informed by samsung. When the new iPhones were announced the stores had them in their catalogues on the same day, pricing, release date and all. Today you can buy the new iPhones, which were announced two weeks after the Note, of which there is still no sight.
From a marketing point of view it just doesn't make sense to me. You spend a lot of money and effort announcing your device, trying to get people excited over it. But because people can not act on their excitement (for a long time) all that energy just dissipates, instead of it going into pre-orders/sales.
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Bravo!
I have just received notification that the Indiegogo N. American launch has been cancelled due to manufacturing delays. I am not personally that affected as I already have a phone and had only ordered the wireless charger through the Indiegogo campaign. However it is disappointing for the growth of Yota in general as getting this phone (which I am still impressed with after several months) into the hands of N. American consumers would have been great to increase its visibility in a large market.
scdoyle said:
I have just received notification that the Indiegogo N. American launch has been cancelled due to manufacturing delays. I am not personally that affected as I already have a phone and had only ordered the wireless charger through the Indiegogo campaign. However it is disappointing for the growth of Yota in general as getting this phone (which I am still impressed with after several months) into the hands of N. American consumers would have been great to increase its visibility in a large market.
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Wow. How disappointing. I was supposed to get a free Yotaphone because of my application. People will be super pissed..
Manufacturing delays sounds like a bad excuse. They could have easily postponed the release if it was just a simple delay.
Disappointing indeed. Also the community could benefit from being a bit larger.
I ordered mine almost a month ago, from the swedish yotaphone site. One week without any info. One more week with the support trying to find out what's wrong.
Turned out that they were out and did not expect any more in until mid august.
Me being a bit impatient cancelled my order and bought a brand new on ebay for 4/5 of the price.
Then one more week trying to get a refund...
Anyway - got mine a week ago and am very glad for it.
Odd if they cancelled it though, and not just postponed it a bit
frejac said:
Disappointing indeed. Also the community could benefit from being a bit larger.
I ordered mine almost a month ago, from the swedish yotaphone site. One week without any info. One more week with the support trying to find out what's wrong.
Turned out that they were out and did not expect any more in until mid august.
Me being a bit impatient cancelled my order and bought a brand new on ebay for 4/5 of the price.
Then one more week trying to get a refund...
Anyway - got mine a week ago and am very glad for it.
Odd if they cancelled it though, and not just postponed it a bit
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Agreed, the community could have used US users. But now that I've read more about the story the delay would have been months. Yota is planning to release a new device next year, so releasing an outdated device just before launching the new model would've been bad. So in that sense I understand their decision to cancel the launch altogether. This is such a PR nightmare that the decision must not have come easy.
I contacted them about my free device, and they said that they are keeping their promise about it. I was going for the international model anyway.
I am a US customer and I went ahead and took the option to get the international YD201 and join the community. It seems like not having LTE is a worthwhile sacrifice to get my hands on the phone as well as the advantage of being on the same firmware and software as the community here so I can join in helping with debugging and now know there is already a custom recovery and root method available for the device I will receive. I look forward to joining the community as one of the few US users.