Consumption of SD and NAND Android - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

Right now, I'm using SD Android on my HTC HD2..
But it consumes more than 30% of battery power in standby mode for 5-6 hours...
and drains a lot when the screen is on..
1. I'm wondering that how much battery saving will do if I change it into NAND Android?
2. Should it consumes less power and stable like original Windows Mobile 6.5?
thank you

You won't get battery drain which will match WinMo if you use Android, but you certainly shouldn't get such high drain either. Turn off all connections, use JuiceDefender and SetCPU to minimise drain and install current widget to get a better reading. It should be around 7-8ma for an SD build. For me, that amounts to 1% an hour. Also, NAND has better battery life and performance, but bear in mind you won't have WinMo (although in all honesty I doubt this would make a difference )
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Nigeldg said:
You won't get battery drain which will match WinMo if you use Android, but you certainly shouldn't get such high drain either. Turn off all connections, use JuiceDefender and SetCPU to minimise drain and install current widget to get a better reading. It should be around 7-8ma for an SD build. For me, that amounts to 1% an hour. Also, NAND has better battery life and performance, but bear in mind you won't have WinMo (although in all honesty I doubt this would make a difference )
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thanks a lot for your response..
7-8mA for all connections are off?
how about when data connection is on?

Virage said:
thanks a lot for your response..
7-8mA for all connections are off?
how about when data connection is on?
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Sorry I got that wrong, 7-8 is with connections ON. Connections off should really be at the very most 4Ma. My bad.

Nigeldg said:
Sorry I got that wrong, 7-8 is with connections ON. Connections off should really be at the very most 4Ma. My bad.
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I tried to turn on the data connection and wifi, it consumes 10-20mA..
how bout that?
is it normal?
thank you

Virage said:
I tried to turn on the data connection and wifi, it consumes 10-20mA..
how bout that?
is it normal?
thank you
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No that's far too high. Which ROM are you using? Have you used SetCPU and JuiceDefender as I suggested? Also try killing all apps before turning your screen off.

Nigeldg said:
No that's far too high. Which ROM are you using? Have you used SetCPU and JuiceDefender as I suggested? Also try killing all apps before turning your screen off.
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I'm using nightly ROM, is it not compatible with my HD2?
yes, I installed JuiceDefender.. that's why when wi-fi is on, it consumes less power..
I'll try to install NAND Android, but I'm afraid...

Virage said:
I'm using nightly ROM, is it not compatible with my HD2?
yes, I installed JuiceDefender.. that's why when wi-fi is on, it consumes less power..
I'll try to install NAND Android, but I'm afraid...
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That from is defifitely compatible... I say don't be afraid to install band android it is very easy to just flash a wmo from and go back to stock. I had to do it three days ago to return my phone for insurance ( I cracked the glass screen) and it took me all of 5 minutes to go from nand android to completely stock. I suggest using the hd2 toolkit it does all the work for you
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rawdaddymagraden said:
That from is defifitely compatible... I say don't be afraid to install band android it is very easy to just flash a wmo from and go back to stock. I had to do it three days ago to return my phone for insurance ( I cracked the glass screen) and it took me all of 5 minutes to go from nand android to completely stock. I suggest using the hd2 toolkit it does all the work for you
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thank you very much for your help...
God bless you..
Now, I installed nand android

Virage said:
thank you very much for your help...
God bless you..
Now, I installed nand android
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God bless yourself as well and if you need anything else let me know also the best way to thank more is to press the thanks button
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[Q] how to measure ma?

Maybe a stupid question but how do i know how much ma my hd2 is using? i see everyone talking about it.
thanks
Download an app called Current Widget.
ah thanks.
one more question, is it normal that it's around 300ma when using the phone?
meta294 said:
ah thanks.
one more question, is it normal that it's around 300ma when using the phone?
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Depends what your phone is doing at the time but even with wifi on, bluetooth paired to a device and listening to music, my phone only hits 230ma
may be he just finished playing a game?
i am using MDJ FroYo Revolution v.1.1 [kernel: hastarin R8]. my radio is 2.14. i had wifi and bluetooth running and i was at 410ma. I stopped everything for the most part and it is resting at 308mA with no programs running. Isn't that high? any ideas on how to cut this down? i see in other post people getting 3-7. my battery life gets ne 4 hours tops. thanks.
just an update to show battery drain. i unpugged my phone for thirty minutes, from a full charge, and i went from 100% to 83% - doing nothing!!! there has got to be somehing seriously wrong here
Only think I can think of is if you try and switch android builds? Maybe try mdeejay or froyostone?
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hookguy said:
Only think I can think of is if you try and switch android builds? Maybe try mdeejay or froyostone?
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i have tried about 5 so far. there may be some that have better battery drain but they either have poor data connects oor another negative that won't allow me to keep it long enough to test the battery. There has got to be a remedy. thanks for the input.

[Q] Display killing battery life

Hey all,
Quick question - for some reason I have really dodgy battery life in any of the most recent Android builds. This includes the Sense HD and the SuperRAM builds, with both recent MDJ & Hastarain Kernels.
If I leave the device in my pocket for a couple of hours, in standby, the "Battery Use" claims the Display is the primary cause for my battery use.
Just looking at it now, Android System and Android OS are both on 12% and the display is at 57%. That's after the display being mostly off......
I've tried three ROMS, including VBN's Android build, an official 1.66 HTC build and an official 3.14 HTC build. Furthermore, I've tried the 2.15.50.14 and 2.10.50.28_2 Radio's, both recommended for good battery life.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Jon
I am wondering the same thing. I am running darkstone hd2 froyo v3 with hastarins 8.5.1 oldcam kernel, everything runs great but it says display is killing my battery. If there is anything I can do about this I would really like to know.
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technoob said:
I am wondering the same thing. I am running darkstone hd2 froyo v3 with hastarins 8.5.1 oldcam kernel, everything runs great but it says display is killing my battery. If there is anything I can do about this I would really like to know.
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Phew, it's not just me then! If I could be bothered I'd dig up an old sense build with and old kernel and see what happened. However I can't remember which one worked best as I change my ROM on what feels like a daily basis!
I have been using this as my daily build but I really wish there was something I could do about the battery drain. If it is something about the phone that I can't change or if a different kernel or something would help, I wish I knew. Any help would be appreciated.
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jonboyuk said:
Phew, it's not just me then! If I could be bothered I'd dig up an old sense build with and old kernel and see what happened. However I can't remember which one worked best as I change my ROM on what feels like a daily basis!
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it's not just you indeed, it's everyone there's at least two threads already about this.
Well, I dont really think its killing my battery life, however i did notice that its lower than when running winmo, I checked the settings and it says display is using 60% of power, I didnt really think anything of it as i guessed the display is easily the thing that requires the most power. So perhaps I have this problem too? I dont really know
Winmo I would get a day, perhaps a day and a half if i was lucky, android i get a day.
Samdeath said:
Well, I dont really think its killing my battery life, however i did notice that its lower than when running winmo, I checked the settings and it says display is using 60% of power, I didnt really think anything of it as i guessed the display is easily the thing that requires the most power. So perhaps I have this problem too? I dont really know
Winmo I would get a day, perhaps a day and a half if i was lucky, android i get a day.
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That's the thing you see, if the display is off for 2 hours, on for say 3-4 mins while I check my e-mail, it's still at a really high figure. Yes the display causes battery drain, but no where near that much.
I wonder if it's purely a kernel thing??
I only get 5% on my display battery drain.
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jose makalolot said:
I only get 5% on my display battery drain.
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are u using anything special for battery?
dapoharoun said:
are u using anything special for battery?
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Nope...
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I've noticed it depends what Android rom your using. The issue for me is either the Android System OS is using 60% & over or the display is using 60% and over. Either way the display or the system is the battery eater in my case lol.
DramatikBeats said:
I've noticed it depends what Android rom your using. The issue for me is either the Android System OS is using 60% & over or the display is using 60% and over. Either way the display or the system is the battery eater in my case lol.
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What eating mine is cell standby and wifi, both 35-40% while android system is only 20% and display is 5%.
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My display always takes up more than 60% of the power usage, but I have had builds where it's reported very low, I don't pay much attention to that anymore, they're probably not that accurate.
I did ran a quick test the other day of battery usage in winmo vs android. In standby both android and winmo were about 3-6ma. On the dimmest setting with no app running, winmo used 78ma, and android used 95ma, so it's a little higher, but not extreme.
I'm running at a crazy 67%...
For the heck of it, turned off all radio, left thephone @ 70%. Came back 1 hour later, tells me this percentage and the phone is at 63%...
Weather it's the Cell Standby, Display, Wifi or the Android OS, something is always taking power. If your phone drains completely in an hour or a day, the battery usage is just telling you what is drawing the most power percentage wise. 3mA or 300mA, it accounts for 100% of what's being used,screen off or not.
My android os only uses like 5% maximum, display is usually 60 though
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Guys, you need to correctly interpret the percentage values...
greg17477 said:
Guys, you need to correctly interpret the percentage values...
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What do you mean?

Nand builts battery drainage!

Hey guys.. I'm using Cotullas stock Desire HD nand rom... My battery last about a day with a few calls/sms...(Today i woke up and my phone was dead)
With SD card builts i have 2-3 days battery life with only a few calls/sms! Is there any other new NAND built that battery drainage is ok?
Since I've installed a NAND Android build, my phone lasts much longer than with SD card builds.
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Since I've installed a NAND Android build, my phone lasts much longer than with SD card builds.
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LOL! WTF? Maybe because you have a T-Mous or something?
What built do you have?????
I'm with Cotullas stock Desire HD too. And now, sometime I see 3ma in standby.
Till now I've never see less then 4ma. So, for me, it`s better with nand Android
I have autosync active... all the time.(weather, email, facebook...)
You can check programs... some program may be is draining a lot of power.
Did you test with clean ROM, without any installed programs?
bummer2000 said:
I'm with Cotullas stock Desire HD too. And now, sometime I see 3ma in standby.
Till now I've never see less then 4ma. So, for me, it`s better with nand Android
My phone is Tmob 1024.
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OhhhhhK....... So now i understand that T-Mobile hd2's have better battery life with NAND builts! I am suing same Rom as you guys... I don't have any programs installed... at first battery looking just fine...But after one day my phone died. My maximum Phone's Up-time were 26Hours with this built!
Can you please tell me the widget you are using fo mA?
where can i find cotulla's desire hd based nand rom? couse i can see only desire based one.(my hd2 isn't tmous)(exept grauners)
scorpion86 said:
where can i find cotulla's desire hd based nand rom? couse i can see only desire based one.(my hd2 isn't tmous)(exept grauners)
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Sorry mate .... My bad....There is not any Desire HD Rom! It's the Stock Desire!
arkatis said:
Sorry mate .... My bad....There is not any Desire HD Rom! It's the Stock Desire!
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there is a Desire HD rom, not made by cotulla, but Gauner, in the Android development section.
Guys, which software do you use to to check battery drain - I cannot see where the mA statistics are reported, only what is using my battery.... Thank you
deckoff said:
Guys, which software do you use to to check battery drain - I cannot see where the mA statistics are reported, only what is using my battery.... Thank you
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current widget from market place
mally2 said:
current widget from market place
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i use this, but not show battery usage!
i have "open error" message .
This topic maybe might help you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895268
Btw best widget for battery drain is Battery Monitor Widget.
Ap is free on market.
Also try this build:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895268
This is soo much better for me ofcours
Battery drain ~3 to 5 mA in standby
Ohhh and i forgot... My HD2 is TMOUS version
arkatis said:
Hey guys.. I'm using Cotullas stock Desire HD nand rom... My battery last about a day with a few calls/sms...(Today i woke up and my phone was dead)
With SD card builts i have 2-3 days battery life with only a few calls/sms! Is there any other new NAND built that battery drainage is ok?
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which was ur sd build?i got just 4hr aftrr wake up.it is dead.
I've been going for 27hrs now on the same battery with over 40% still left! I have only made 1 call, but used it lots on wifi and SMS.
Awesome, the battery usage i'd say.
Is your wifi on ? i have a normal HD2 (Not Tmouse) and i had massive batt drain above 50mah sleep until i turned wifi completely off.
now i get 2-5mah sleep.
I have wifi on. Its in 3g in standby mode. Have u turned off wifi location setting. That helped alot in all builds.
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no comment
Hand version android.On standby
stratplayer said:
I've been going for 27hrs now on the same battery with over 40% still left! I have only made 1 call, but used it lots on wifi and SMS.
Awesome, the battery usage i'd say.
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are you using task killer? setcpu?
how are you getting battery life like that!!!??? lol
Everyone got 60-70ma in standby after making a call with cotullas build.
Change the kernel to this one and it's fine after that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895268
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Hand version android.On standby
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So... that's like 50 days of standby time? lol

[Q] Reverting to Windows Mobile 6.5

I flashed Android to my HD2 using NAND and now I want to go back to WinMo 6.5. Can anyone tell me how to do this.
Get the WM ROM you want to install and enter the bootloader - turn off the phone and then hold down the volume down button and briefly press the power button. Keep holding the volume down button till you get the tri-colour screen. Connect to PC via USB and run the WM ROM installer.
Download the original ROM or custom ROM.
Put your HD2 in Tricolor Bootloader mode by holding the VOL-down button when powering on.
Flash your ROM.
Where can I get the WM ROM?
oscar0324 said:
Where can I get the WM ROM?
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Either from HTC websites in your country or xda : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577717
oscar0324 said:
I flashed Android to my HD2 using NAND and now I want to go back to WinMo 6.5. Can anyone tell me how to do this.
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Why would you want to do that? Andriod is awesome and better suited to the HD2 than the WM it came with...
But each to their own.. Try the following link...
http://www.4shared.com/dir/22189940/b8552fa0/Shipped_Leo_ROMs.html
I'm with Oscar, i am going back too. I have downloaded setCPU and tried all the other suggestions but I am still burning through my battery at a ridiculous rate. I like the Android OS but I need a phone that will stay charged for longer than 12 to 14 hours while in standby!
Android kills the battery. Less than 4 hours a day, that sucks!!!!
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I've not had the battery issues you've mentioned. You don't happen to be leaving bluetooth running do you? This has a known issue with battery drain.
I don't use bluetooth and I get extremely nice battery life with the gingerbread android builds.
Rtwalker said:
Android kills the battery. Less than 4 hours a day, that sucks!!!!
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I get 48 hours without any tweaks at all on almost every Android I'v installed. Currently I'm using CoreDroid and my standby battery drain is average 2-4 ma with Current Widget. You guys are CRAZY for going back to winmo but I guess some people just can't stand a way better OS
Scolo said:
I'm with Oscar, i am going back too. I have downloaded setCPU and tried all the other suggestions but I am still burning through my battery at a ridiculous rate. I like the Android OS but I need a phone that will stay charged for longer than 12 to 14 hours while in standby!
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Rtwalker said:
Android kills the battery. Less than 4 hours a day, that sucks!!!!
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Its because you are either using an old/crap rom or you havent done enough research.
I have tried MANY roms and most of them now have excellent battery consumption. Between 1-5mA on standby.
Make sure you try things like remembering to turn off bluetooth/wifi when not using them aswell as have a upto date kernel/rom, also make sure that your radio is a uptodate version.
There is loads you can do, you simply cant be bothered, that is your problem. Battery consumption used to be a big problem, that simply is not true anymore.
wrecless said:
I get 48 hours without any tweaks at all on almost every Android I'v installed. Currently I'm using CoreDroid and my standby battery drain is average 2-4 ma with Current Widget. You guys are CRAZY for going back to winmo but I guess some people just can't stand a way better OS
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48 hours? The only way I can't get this is by using it...err...I mean NOT using my phone at all. Just letting it sit there (maybe a dozen of calls).
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[q] help!!!! How do increase my battery life while running android?

hello,
i have an hd2 and i like running android from my SD card on it but i cant get a full days use out of it without it dying.can someone please help im running android 2.2.
and yes i use task killers doesn't help much. thanks
There are several guides out there detailing how to increase your battery life. Many of them tell you not to use a task killer as they actually increase battery usage as it unnecessarily kills tasks that aren't draining power at the time. The most obvious ways are to shut off WiFi, GPS, and Data when they're not being used. After that, conditioning your battery would be the next thing to try.
Please use the search function next time
plenty of info on this subject, no need for new topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11420332&postcount=4
Try that and see if it helps
Calibrate your battery. I'm easily getting a day and a half out of my phone with heavy usage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918989&highlight=battery+calibration
lukey-windy said:
Calibrate your battery. I'm easily getting a day and a half out of my phone with heavy usage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918989&highlight=battery+calibration
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?????????????? explain heavy usage pls
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?????????????? explain heavy usage pls
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This info is everywhere guys. Try looking at my post here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10846804&postcount=5
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If you want to get the longest amount of time you can with your battery on android, leave it on standby. Easy as that. You'll get like a week or more, brilliant aint it? :3
Kailkti said:
If you want to get the longest amount of time you can with your battery on android, leave it on standby. Easy as that. You'll get like a week or more, brilliant aint it? :3
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If you're willing to do that then why not just turn the device off completely?
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Hey he wanted to know how to get the longest amount of time while running android. Just answering for him. :3
Scabes24 said:
If you're willing to do that then why not just turn the device off completely?
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Cause in standby you can still receive calls ?
You can be waked-up by the alarm ?
Your phone can be very useful and much needed even if you leave it on standby almost all the time
The one obvious and often overlooked battery consumer is simply the screen.
It drains much more than the Wifi, 3G, GPS etc. Thus set the brightness as low as possible, and let it timeout quickly.
wifi
where you can, use wifi as much as possible as this apparently slows down the drain compared to using your data
alaindev said:
Cause in standby you can still receive calls ?
You can be waked-up by the alarm ?
Your phone can be very useful and much needed even if you leave it on standby almost all the time
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Then why own an hd2? You would have those abilities with a flip phone
Ok this is really goin off topic now so lets just leave it to the info provided elready.
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Ever tought about going NAND instead of a SD version?
If u want best battery life and good speed/everything NAND is the way to go.
I can imagen u want to stay with WinMO, but if u dont .. GoGoGo!
When NAND or even RAM wasnt released i also used SD, but this gives a big battery drain, cause your phone has to keep loading files of the SD all the time (to keep android running).
I use my phone every 10minutes of the day, and i never got half a day on SD, now with NAND like 24hours extreme use.

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