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keeping the radio you dont have off

I found a program called Nobars in the market. What it does is monitor cell reception and turn the radio off when you have no signal. There is an option to keep WiFi active when it puts it into airplane mode.
I have confirmed that it works as it should by taking it out of airplane mode several times. Since installing it cell usage of the battery has not budged.
I know this can be done manually but this is an automatic option that constantly monitors.

Nice find
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Does this need root?
Cause it doesnt seem to work on mine (note rooted yet)
I dont see any notification as the settings suggest..

Its not working for me neither.
Mine is unrooted too.
Do we need root?

mine is rooted and it doesnt work : still have the "veille gsm" process sucking battery (A500 french)

I am rooted, it doesn't work for me either.

Does Airplane Mode Work?
Has anyone seen any positive effect of keeping the tablet in airplane mode and just turning WiFi on/off as you need it?

This app does not need root. While it was working great for me initially it now seems to have stopped working. I am going to play with it a little today.
And I definitely see a difference running in airplane mode.
There is another app I run on my droid x that shuts down everything at night. Going to see if that works on Honeycomb.

for anyone that it is not working for, you can turn on airplane mode manually and then re-enable wifi

bog3nator said:
for anyone that it is not working for, you can turn on airplane mode manually and then re-enable wifi
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You can do this, but have not seen any adjustments to the battery use at all. It still keeps draining for the cell standby.
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Airplane mode does not fix the Cell Standby drain.
I have seen this topic discussed in the Androidtablets forum under the Acer specific thread. (I still can't post links but it's exhaustively been discussed in that thread).
Unfortunately, the a500 was designed exactly the same as the a501 (which will be the 3G enabled Acer tablet eventually).
The bottom line is, this probably won't ever be fixed. Renaming phone.apk and telephonyProvider.apk does fix the issue - but it also bricks your tablet.
For my Droid X, I use a widget called "Dazzle!" which gives me control over the Cell Radio - even on my Droid, I can disable Cell and not have a Cell Standby drain. Unfortunately, this widget does not appear in the market for the Acer...
I think we've gotta wait for a crafty developer for a workaround, or wait for some custom ROM's... Acer doesn't seem to have any plans for a software update for this.

Dalrimple said:
Airplane mode does not fix the Cell Standby drain.
I have seen this topic discussed in the Androidtablets forum under the Acer specific thread. (I still can't post links but it's exhaustively been discussed in that thread).
Unfortunately, the a500 was designed exactly the same as the a501 (which will be the 3G enabled Acer tablet eventually).
The bottom line is, this probably won't ever be fixed. Renaming phone.apk and telephonyProvider.apk does fix the issue - but it also bricks your tablet.
For my Droid X, I use a widget called "Dazzle!" which gives me control over the Cell Radio - even on my Droid, I can disable Cell and not have a Cell Standby drain. Unfortunately, this widget does not appear in the market for the Acer...
I think we've gotta wait for a crafty developer for a workaround, or wait for some custom ROM's... Acer doesn't seem to have any plans for a software update for this.
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All we need is a kernel that disables the ril. DJ_Steve did it for the Streak 7.

I have a help-ticket out at Acer about this issues, which has already surpassed Level 2 Tech support. It's been a while since my last response (which told me to send the unit in for faulty parts, haha). We'll see what Level 3 has to say. So far they've only sent form-letters back.
I have a feeling our developer community will have this issue solved well before acer even acknowledges it.

Dalrimple said:
I have a help-ticket out at Acer about this issues, which has already surpassed Level 2 Tech support. It's been a while since my last response (which told me to send the unit in for faulty parts, haha). We'll see what Level 3 has to say. So far they've only sent form-letters back.
I have a feeling our developer community will have this issue solved well before acer even acknowledges it.
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Which leaves us users who don't want to go the mod/root route in deep doo doo.

I completely agree.
I finally decided not to root my Droid X for the gingerbread update. But the tablet, I have to admit, I might have to actually Root to fix the issues.
I hope Acer creates a situation where Rooting isn't necessary. But, it looks doubtful. I'd rather root and gain 4+ hours of battery, than not root and gain nothing.

Hw does disabling telephony and phone apks brick a device? So far mine seems fine with them disabled.....?

trothmaster said:
Hw does disabling telephony and phone apks brick a device? So far mine seems fine with them disabled.....?
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How is your battery life before and after? And, renaming them does nothing unless you reset the Iconia.
What I don't understand is just what kind of reset does this. There's a lot of chatter here but to me a hard reset always meant a complete wipe of the device back to factory default state. Apparently even a "soft reset", i.e., just rebooting will also bork the Iconia so just be careful.

Am I on to something here?
Hi guys, I am a noob here so please dun flame me
I actually installed minimalist text onto my A500. I tried to customize my widget,
and when I went into the part where I can customize the activity of clicking my widget, I discovered that the list consist of mobile network settings (It actually consist of the full list of mobile networking settings)
Out of curiosity, I selected the mobile data network setting as my widgets default action. When I went into the setting, the "Data Enabled: Enable data access over Mobile Network" is actually being checked. I had unchecked it, and now my "cell standby" in my battery use has stopped.
Maybe I got it wrong or its just coincidence, but I thought maybe someone else can try it and see whether is it really workable?
I am keeping a look out on the battery statistics; hopefully it really works.

kkaytan said:
Hi guys, I am a noob here so please dun flame me
I actually installed minimalist text onto my A500. I tried to customize my widget,
and when I went into the part where I can customize the activity of clicking my widget, I discovered that the list consist of mobile network settings (It actually consist of the full list of mobile networking settings)
Out of curiosity, I selected the mobile data network setting as my widgets default action. When I went into the setting, the "Data Enabled: Enable data access over Mobile Network" is actually being checked. I had unchecked it, and now my "cell standby" in my battery use has stopped.
Maybe I got it wrong or its just coincidence, but I thought maybe someone else can try it and see whether is it really workable?
I am keeping a look out on the battery statistics; hopefully it really works.
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Wow! I just went into my Beautiful Weather settings and under the "Advanced Panel" you can specify an action for clicking on the time (or weather). When this is done, it provides a large list of action - this list, to the best of my knowledge, doesn't show up anywhere.
Anyway, Mobile Data was checked (yes or on) so I cleared the list (resulting in mobile data being UNCHECKED) and rebooted. Mobile data remained unchecked so I'll watch for a while and report results later.

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Wow! I just went into my Beautiful Weather settings and under the "Advanced Panel" you can specify an action for clicking on the time (or weather). When this is done, it provides a large list of action - this list, to the best of my knowledge, doesn't show up anywhere.
Anyway, Mobile Data was checked (yes or on) so I cleared the list (resulting in mobile data being UNCHECKED) and rebooted. Mobile data remained unchecked so I'll watch for a while and report results later.
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Yeah the list didnt show up anywhere unless we went to customise widget setups like what we did. Lets see how things goes!
And it seems as though the mobile network settings etc is hidden due to the fact that our A500 is wifi only?

Regarding Batteri Issues "Temp fix maybe"

Hey,
Iam getting my phone tomorrow, but i have been doing some reading in the different topics.
I found this link in one of the topics postet by "xdadroid88"(thanks to him
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15057
i have read through it and this is the tips i found.
1. Set the wifi policy on "always on"
2.Location & Security -> Use wireless networks / Use GPS satellites. I've disable both options
3. switch off Latitude
Seems like this is a issue in Gingerbread 2.3.3 and is resolved in 2.3.4
Try this and post the results

So disable wifi/gps and battery is better? That's news!

Dont need to be rude, just trying to help, it can be a different problem on the sgs 2, just telling people what they can try and maybe maybe it works for some
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CEPi said:
So disable wifi/gps and battery is better? That's news!
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LOL.......

That's not even what he said, those settings are for letting your phone track your location. :-/
I'll give this a go OP and post tomorrow. Thanks.

the OP actually meant to say "wifi sleep policy". and yes the issue was with wifi. ironically setting wifi sleep to NEVER is better for battery life than letting it go to sleep, because when it switches back to 3g it uses more power. leaving on wifi always uses less power than leaving on 3G because of latency and other factors. counter intuitive but true.

Using my DInc as a media player

Hey all,
So I just got a new phone so am going to try to convert my old DInc to an mp3 player of sorts. I recently rooted and got s-off (whew! not easy on on this device) and have CM7 installed. I really like this ROM and its battery life, but was wondering if the community has any further suggestions for extending battery life. I have installed Titanium Backup to freeze some of the apps I don't need anymore, but heard once some stuff isn't safe to freeze. Can anyone tell me if it's safe to freeze apks like messaging and camera?
Next since I'm using this as a wifi only device so I don't need the mobile data. I went to my wireless settings and disabled data, but it still seems like its trying to connect to the Verizons network and kill my battery. I found a work-around for this by turning airplane mode on and then activating my wifi, but it would be nice to find a more permanent work-around especially since I'll also be using bluetooth.
Finally, I'm happy with CM7 and its light weight, but if anyone has a suggestion for an EVEN lighter weight ROM that'll extend battery life, I'd be welcome to hearing some suggestions.
Thank you in advance, community

I believe I saw a script that disables the network. It was in the development thread.. I still use it to get like 4 days of battery on my old dinc.
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Here is the link to that script
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217038

Shinyhead said:
Here is the link to that script
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217038
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Awesome, but I think I'd rather having the ugly airplane in my status bar than the even uglier signal and X. Thanks though!
Youre def right, disabling data does AMAZING thibgs for my battery

You might want to use Gemini App Manager to try to disable every app that might possibly want to run without your permission.

[Q] Telephony action check netstat wakelock

I have this bada** wakelock, I thick it's a fastdormancy incompatibility, I tried to turn it off but doesn't work. Now, I have Amplify (NLPUnbounce), is it safe to unbouce and if the answare is yes wich value should i aplply?

alinnsts said:
I have this bada** wakelock, I thick it's a fastdormancy incompatibility, I tried to turn it off but doesn't work. Now, I have Amplify (NLPUnbounce), is it safe to unbouce and if the answare is yes wich value should i aplply?
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Did you solve it?

For anyone searching the web like I was for the fix, find if your carrier supports fast dormancy, if not then this could well be the problem. Try and find your device hidden menu code and put it in the dialer, mine was the G3 D855 so my code looked like this 3845#*855#, but yours will probably be different. Then disable it in settings, fast dormancy, disable. Looking at my battery going down now, I am unsure if this is truly a fix, but it might work for some of you. Actually looking at my battery decending now. Its not a fix for me at all. But you should give it a go by all means.

[XPOSED] Mobile Radio Active Fix now available via xposed module

Article about the bug: http://www.xda-developers.com/xposed-module-to-fix-mobileradioactive-bug/
Details here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/xposed-mobile-radio-active-fix-t3137573
This should be considered a must have along with the Lollipop memory leak fix xposed module for anyone rooted even if they don't use any other xposed modules*.
This should noticeably improve battery life.
* Rootcloak is also useful to idol users because it allows system update checker to CHECK for updates without the "root detected" error. You should still not actually INSTALL updates until fully unrooted.

Thanks for the info Famewolf !
I've been closely following the thread but it seems this only fix the wrong reporting of mobile radio in the battery stats and only improve a little the battery life.
Still better than nothing tough.
I'm astonished this huge bug is only looked into by xda volunteers and not by Google...
Bazoocaze did an amazing job btw !

Cannadoux said:
Thanks for the info Famewolf !
I've been closely following the thread but it seems this only fix the wrong reporting of mobile radio in the battery stats and only improve a little the battery life.
Still better than nothing tough.
I'm astonished this huge bug is only looked into by xda volunteers and not by Google...
Bazoocaze did an amazing job btw !
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It's more than just "reporting". It's the equivalent of opening the door to your garage or outside in the middle of summer and then wondering where all your cool air conditioning is going. Check your power bill the next month when in this analogy you would have left the door open for hours and hours at a time.
It fixes a bug that dropped the instruction telling it to close the radio so the radio connection remained open using up battery needlessly. I do however agree that it is sad Google and others didn't fix this a long while back as it's been widely reported.

My radio is fine
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unrafa said:
My radio is fine
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Then you have somehow magically fixed a known bug in all versions of Lollipop.

I have a 6039S with no sim card installed, and it still shows "Cell standby" using a few percentage of power. Is this a bug, and is it the same as the Mobile Radio Active bug?

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I have a 6039S with no sim card installed, and it still shows "Cell standby" using a few percentage of power. Is this a bug, and is it the same as the Mobile Radio Active bug?
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You might ask in the actual radio fix thread linked in the message I linked to as they can better provide you details but it's a given that if you have not patched the bug then you still HAVE the bug.

So, does it actually work?

I think Radio active bug is not present in this phone, i have been all day on LTE and Radio active time shows 2 hours. which is more or less the screen on time, and the phone was 12 more hours in my pocket or on my desk.
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unrafa said:
I think Radio active bug is not present in this phone, i have been all day on LTE and Radio active time shows 2 hours. which is more or less the screen on time, and the phone was 12 more hours in my pocket or on my desk.
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Multiple people on the forum have reported they had to put their phone into wcdma mode to stop excessive battery drainage. You are free to believe as you wish. See previous posts and the thread related to the bug as it's not my job to convince you.

have used Xposed with this module and with the memory fix module for 5.0.x firmware for two weeks, but didnt notice any noticable battery improvements or less lagging,so i deleted all modules and xposed.

I don't have this bug too. Maybe it's on some carrier or some lte frequencies... report thing is easy but send logs or open a real thread about that is difficult for you Famewolf and you don't even know or you can't prove if the module do something on this phone execpt a placebo in the battery stats... So please stop send stroll people because their device work or have not the same bug or problem of yours .... (by the way i think the governor of the cpu is catastrophic and it can be better with a little bit of tweaking) Bye

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I don't have this bug too. Maybe it's on some carrier or some lte frequencies... report thing is easy but send logs or open a real thread about that is difficult for you Famewolf and you don't even know or you can't prove if the module do something on this phone execpt a placebo in the battery stats... So please stop send stroll people because their device work or have not the same bug or problem of yours .... (by the way i think the governor of the cpu is catastrophic and it can be better with a little bit of tweaking) Bye
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Try reading xda-developer thread I linked to in the 1st post that talks about the bug. I agree..the cpu governor is crappy but until we get a custom kernel we are stuck with it.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...amous-mobile-radio-active-bug-in-android-6-0/

Oh well sorry, my mistake. i just realiced after reading your last post; that i am in europe, we don't have cdma here. so no bug for europeans i guess. thanks mistery Solved
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hey guys now I can't permanently keep the data to " wcdma only" by going in phone testing (*#*#4636#*#*) remember that?
perhaps it is because of the "mobile active radio fix"
Xposed module because it was working fine earlier but even though now I have tried disabling module and uninstalling module but I can't change it to wcdma only, it keeps fixed on gsm only.
even though in setting I have it set to 3g preferred but because of poor reception many time it goes to 2g and back to 3g it is very irritating.
btw I am able to use 3g, can anyhody tell me how to fix that with fixing of mobile radio active bug
or is it a problem with the cm12.1 itself, btw I'll post in both forums

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hey guys now I can't permanently keep the data to " wcdma only" by going in phone testing (*#*#4636#*#*) remember that?
perhaps it is because of the "mobile active radio fix"
Xposed module because it was working fine earlier but even though now I have tried disabling module and uninstalling module but I can't change it to wcdma only, it keeps fixed on gsm only.
even though in setting I have it set to 3g preferred but because of poor reception many time it goes to 2g and back to 3g it is very irritating.
btw I am able to use 3g, can anyhody tell me how to fix that with fixing of mobile radio active bug
or is it a problem with the cm12.1 itself, btw I'll post in both forums
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Perhaps you can use something like:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tapbase.LTEswitcher
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booo159159 said:
hey guys now I can't permanently keep the data to " wcdma only" by going in phone testing (*#*#4636#*#*) remember that?
perhaps it is because of the "mobile active radio fix"
Xposed module because it was working fine earlier but even though now I have tried disabling module and uninstalling module but I can't change it to wcdma only, it keeps fixed on gsm only.
even though in setting I have it set to 3g preferred but because of poor reception many time it goes to 2g and back to 3g it is very irritating.
btw I am able to use 3g, can anyhody tell me how to fix that with fixing of mobile radio active bug
or is it a problem with the cm12.1 itself, btw I'll post in both forums
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I use wcdma only mode all the time as i'm in a fringe area that barely has 3g in both stock and now in cm12.1....the radiofix module wouldn't have anything to do with it. You can go into the dialer and do a *#*#4636#*#* then go into phone info which will let you select wcdma only or you can install the "network" app from either google play or f-droid which when ran acts as a shortcut to take you straight to the phone info screen so you can set wcdma only.

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I use wcdma only mode all the time as i'm in a fringe area that barely has 3g in both stock and now in cm12.1....the radiofix module wouldn't have anything to do with it. You can go into the dialer and do a *#*#4636#*#* then go into phone info which will let you select wcdma only or you can install the "network" app from either google play or f-droid which when ran acts as a shortcut to take you straight to the phone info screen so you can set wcdma only.
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I tried both it doesn't seem to stick to anything other than gsm only.
though my 3g works, weird