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is juicedefender good app? im interested in buying it to gain battery life or data on demand app is the same as juicedefender?
I've been doing some battery tests and by far this is my fav app to prolong battery life. Running with it I've seen a very noticible difference, paid for the app gladly.
I alos noticed a big diffrence with the paid version. when i used the free version i did not notice a huge change. It will mainly depend on how much your screen is off. if you have your screen off most of the time(like msot people do i assume) Then it can save tons of power (along with setCPU though the paid version of juice defender does have screen off CPU throttle built in)
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is juicedefender good app? im interested in buying it to gain battery life or data on demand app is the same as juicedefender?
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Just ignore juicedender
Most people don't know this but Backed Snack 1.7 with Kernel #6 has 2-5x the battery life of most rom. That ROM does NOT use batttery period. Use go read the last couple of pages of that thread.
JuiceDefender slowed my device to an absolute crawl. COMPLETELY slowed it down so badly I had to restart to get it back to working. The UI is VERY confusing. YMMV, but I don't think it's owrth it.
I tried the free version. However, when I found out you need to have the notification icon running all the time, I uninstalled it. I don't want a cup of orange juice on my status bar 24/7.
nvius said:
I tried the free version. However, when I found out you need to have the notification icon running all the time, I uninstalled it. I don't want a cup of orange juice on my status bar 24/7.
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It doesnt need to be on. With it off it just says the system might close it. Ive been running it with the Notification icon always off and it has really helped my battery double at least.
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It doesnt need to be on. With it off it just says the system might close it. Ive been running it with the Notification icon always off and it has really helped my battery double at least.
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Right, I mispoke, it doesn't need to be on, but it does highly recommend for it to be on so it doesn't close. Anyone else have the notification off and running Juicedefender fine?
the juice works
I got to say it really works!
just set it to turn off Data when screen is off.
Caused to many other problems so I uninstalled it. It does save battery life mainly from disconnecting your data whenever the screen is off but alot of programs I use need data when the screen is off and most importantly I use wifi tether alot and it does not work with the screen off. I tried many times even with JD showing wifi tether allowed to keep data connection it still randomly disconnects. Was not worth the hassle I have 2 batteries and would rather just swap the battery than have to use JD.
Why not use the data power widget. One click on and off. I click it off and put phone on standby. If I turn on I wont click unless I use a app or browser that uses the internet. Everything that syncs I can just click into and with sync.
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was great until the most recent update to it, made my phone crawl, took me 3 restarts and 10 minutes just to get into anything to shut it down and uninstall it.
i also have the notification off and it works fine for me.
for wifi tether there is an app option that i just selected wifi tether and told it to always leave data on when wifi tether was running. (you can do this with any apps if you ahve some you like to use with the screen off ie pandora etc so when you are using them it doesnt turn it off but when yuo are it does)
Also i have never had issues with it slowing down my phone. I have used it for months with out problems. even on baked snacks roms it helped for the person mentioning it.
maybe i have jsut been lucky but for me has done wonders and worked great once i got everything set up correctly
I'm so confused.
Just got the mytouch 4g. Charged it, as it said in the book, until it was fully charged. Used it all day until it was drained and then recharged it this evening. Just looked at it now. In 5 hours since unplugging, it's down to 56%. 56!
So weird. And I barely use any apps. I made a conscious effort to keep it as clean as possible.
Help!
Hmmm alot of data is missing from your end but this is what I suggest as basic. Make your blacklight dim so it does not use alot of energy as this is the highest cause of battery drainage during actual awake time. Then disable any unwanted useless services from boot trust me there are lot and also disable them if they restarts. You can also use SetCPU taking you have OC based kernel then make profile to scale your mCPU based on max/avg/idle.
Best advice for you is don't charge the battery, get it low as 1% then do full charge and check your actual usage cycle the uptime/awake time later. Which rom are you using? OCing? if you don't need it just underclock it no need to OC just for the hell of it.
sounds like u need to turn off your network connection
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sounds like u need to turn off your network connection
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Would you like to elaborate more on that? how do you know he is not using anything that require data connection?
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Would you like to elaborate more on that? how do you know he is not using anything that require data connection?
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when i leave my 4G/3G/Edge idle, it burns my batteries like mad
unless he has the screen on all day, i dont see how 5 hours would burn 50% of his batteries. even without killing all his task
No I was asking you to clarify as you mean to say completely disable data when you are idle? well you can do that if you have nothing that requires access but most folks have email and other elements that does require it. But yes it would improve it but that depends on him and how/what he has setup.
Whats your uptime/awake time with full bat cycle?
JuiceDefender does that, it disables the mobile data connection when the screen is off, but you can let some apps bypass that have it on every 15minutes or so to have it sync.
I've been playing around with it, and it does improve battery life, but it's not for me though, cause it does take a good 3-8 seconds until you get the "H" or your data connection back.
LOL I was curious and searched "Juice" my 8.1gb paid app archive of market that I just cURLed few days ago and came across UltimateJuice LOL so I guess ill run it. I have so many stuff... only if I could install it and test it but its not possible as its close to 11k apps.
Theres so much that can effect the batteries on these phones. Weak signal, apps running in the background, coutless things.
These are "super phones". I keepo a data cable in my pocket, and a car charger in the car at all times. My phone basically lives on the charger. Its easier that way. I know, not the answer you were looking for, but if you want your phone to do everything it was capable of then thats something you may have to deal with. You could turn all sync off and make sure nothing is ever doing anything in the background, but then whats the point in haing such an amazing phone?
C&P response from every other battery life thread:
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The first thing to check is if your phone is being affected by the init or suspend bugs. The good news is the former has an easy fix, and the latter can be temporarily fixed by a reboot.
First, download & install Watchdog Lite from the market. Then open its preferences and check "include phone processes," "monitor phone processes," and "display all phone processes." Then just use your phone as normal. It may take a while before you get an alert from Watchdog (and maybe you never will and it ends up you have a different problem). But if you do, note the process that is the culprit.
If it is the init process, go to settings>applications>development> check "usb debugging."
If it is the suspend process, reboot the phone. It should keep it from happening again for a while.
I know the second answer isn't really an answer, but so far it's all we've got for that problem. There is more information on the 2 problems in these threads:
Init:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839935
Suspend:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872839
Good luck...I had both of the problems and my phone didn't last to dinner time. Now I get better battery life than the iphone 3GS I had before this...over a full day of moderate use.
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I'm not rooted at all. Although I gladly rooted my previous phone (3g slide) I don't want to root this phone because I don't know of any ROMs that are EXACTLY like this Sense stock ROM on here, just without the crapware (games, VVM, so on). Is there one?
Ya you can go take a look in Ice Glacier v1.1.6 see which you like the regular or themed version.
QL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844594
Battery life is all relative. Every single person will experience different battery life. The apps you have installed, the amount of time you spend on it and the time you spend on/in each app, distance from cell towers, distance from Wi-Fi sources, settings you have for every app and things like sync and what not.
I have the same problem at work (building)...poor reception = constantly reconnecting = major battery drain..
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Ya you can go take a look in Ice Glacier v1.1.6 see which you like the regular or themed version.
QL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844594
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Thanks, I didn't think one existed. I just wish these cooks would put up some screenshots sometimes.
Quick unrelated question... is there any way I can JUST root for access to the phone and then delete the things I don't want with Titanium by myself. I really DO like the phone the way it is and I just wanna lose some of the network connected crap like the T-Mo faves, etc.
Thanks
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Thanks, I didn't think one existed. I just wish these cooks would put up some screenshots sometimes.
Quick unrelated question... is there any way I can JUST root for access to the phone and then delete the things I don't want with Titanium by myself. I really DO like the phone the way it is and I just wanna lose some of the network connected crap like the T-Mo faves, etc.
Thanks
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Yes. You can just root and use the stock rom if you like. Use Titanium to freeze unwanted apps rather than uninstalling them. That way, if something starts behaving strangely, you can unfreeze apps to troubleshoot. Uninstalling system apps is permanent and Titanium doesn't backup system apks, only data. I haven't used it, but I believe Iced glacier is what you're looking for. The unthemed version is basically stock mt4g without bloat with some performance tweaks.
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Yes. You can just root and use the stock rom if you like. Use Titanium to freeze unwanted apps rather than uninstalling them. That way, if something starts behaving strangely, you can unfreeze apps to troubleshoot. Uninstalling system apps is permanent and Titanium doesn't backup system apks, only data. I haven't used it, but I believe Iced glacier is what you're looking for. The unthemed version is basically stock mt4g without bloat with some performance tweaks.
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Thanks! You know, the thing is that with rooting, from my WinMo days when it was a really risky process, I developed this fear of rom flashing just because of the risk of screwing up. I know Android is much easier to flash with a ROM but it still freaks me out a bit and if it's not COMPLETELY necessary, as it was on the 3g slide I just had, I try not to do it. But I'll check out the unthemed Ice Glacier. I just wish I could see some screen shots or get an explained list of what mods are done to the stock rom on it.
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Thanks! You know, the thing is that with rooting, from my WinMo days when it was a really risky process, I developed this fear of rom flashing just because of the risk of screwing up. I know Android is much easier to flash with a ROM but it still freaks me out a bit and if it's not COMPLETELY necessary, as it was on the 3g slide I just had, I try not to do it. But I'll check out the unthemed Ice Glacier. I just wish I could see some screen shots or get an explained list of what mods are done to the stock rom on it.
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The other thing you can do , if you like the stock ROM but just want to get rid of the bloatware, is to temp root using Visionary+, then use terminal, and disable the apps you don't want. I forgot where i saw it, but that's what I did and it works great. Also, if you ever want it back, it's not erased, just go back and enable it by typing "enable" instead of "disable" in the instructions below.
In Terminal Emulator (with root):
$"su" <enter>
#"pm list packages" <enter>
#"pm disable exact.NameOFApp.IncludingCase.SensitivityAnd.Periods" <enter>
#
You're done; it should be removed from your app drawer and everything. It will still show up in the package list, so if you want to enable it again, just pick it out of the list and follow the same directions replacing "disable" with "enable."
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The other thing you can do , if you like the stock ROM but just want to get rid of the bloatware, is to temp root using Visionary+, then use terminal, and disable the apps you don't want.
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I don't get the concept of "temp rooting" vs real or full rooting. Does that mean it unroots if you reboot? What's the temp part?
That's it. Temp root goes away on reboot.
HTC Glacier running CM7 #18
Through this forum and others, I was able to restore my battery life on the epic back to the 20 odd hours. I thought of writing my process here for the benefit of those who might be struggling with similar issues:
ROM: Clean GB
Tools: Better Battery Stats and Battery usage graph (BetterBatteryStats from the market. I think there is another one that is free. I will try and find it. However, the graph referred to is the one that is built it. When you see battery usage, click on the the top part and it shows the graph of battery drain. )
Observation: There is unusual usage of phone when the screen is off. The phone wakes up roughly once every 2-3 minutes even when the screen is off. Battery life between 3 and 5 hours. Emails do not sync or slow to sync.
1. Removing DRM files: The three said files were frozen using Titanium Backup. However, when I looked under battery usage/Android, I would still see DRM listed. So in the end, I UNINSTALLED all three files and the DRM was no longer listed. Not sure how much of a culprit it is but worth mentioning if you are freezing the files assuming they are not coming up. Check under Battery:
2. Calendar: This was the main culprit: Calendar storage was damaged on the phone and so, the phone was constantly polling to sync my calendar, in turn, running the battery down and making the phone slow. Cleared Calendar Storage using Titanium and that fixed the problem of syncing.
Emails:
1. Hotmail : Activesync (now on 1 hour polling)
2. Corporate: IMAP (1 hour)
(Above two running on Enhanced Email client). Not sure if standart client will also work, will test that and post later)
3. Gmail: using gmail app
Worth mentioning, that I used Enhanced Email and turned on logging to really see what was going on, hence coming to the issue of Calendar taking forever to sync.
3. SNS: The symptom was that SNS would be constanting restarting when seen under Applications/ Running services. Freezing the 2 sns files took care of that. Lost facebook status messages etc for contacts but made the phone faster.
4. KERNEL and CWM : Initially, although the phone was rooted, CWM was somehow, not FULLY installed. And for some reason, the phone would go to Sprint Recovery Menu. Also, worth mentioning, kernel usage was high. Installed the Clean_kernel and the latest CWM till I was satisfied the install was good and clean. A good way to test is to watch kernel usage on better battery stats and CWM behaviour when you go to Recovery.
5. Moved all content of SD card to PC and reformatted it. However, my SD card was fine, so did not see a change in performance, however, others might benefit, especially if you have movie files that the system is having a problem parsing.
I will add more if I think I missed something but doing the above took my phone from a paltry 3 hours on standby to more than 20 hours with usage. Totally acceptable and happy.
Hope this helps others.
Thanks, there's some interesting information in your post!
I cannot find either of those battery tools on the market... I also run clean GB...
I took into account what you mentioned, and removed SNS completely, hell I went a step further and just uninstalled the FB app. I will use the mobile site, and that is fine and dandy for me, I don't really need or want the constant notifications anyways.
I recommend the app Juice Defender, get the ultimate version, either pirate or paid, it is well worth it. Manages your 3g and wifi better, turns them off when the aren't needed, turns them on when they are. Really handy, has at least doubled my standby time.
I also recommend getting CPU Master, and having both it and voltage control on boot. CPU master lets you have profiles based on events, like the screen being off, or the battery getting to hot, again setup properly this also has done a number on my standby time.
Since I just flashed this kernel I haven't run a battery test yet, I am using Legendary 2.1 and IAP 2.0.6. Will run a test tonight to see how long the battery lasts for standby, hopefully it will turn on in the morning, it hasn't in the past very often.
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I cannot find either of those battery tools on the market... I also run clean GB...
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I haven't used the graph, in order to find Betterbatterystats it has to be spelled just like that
Yes, BetterBatteryStats from the market. I think there is another one that is free. I will try and find it. However, the graph referred to is the one that is built it. When you see battery usage, click on the the top part and it shows the graph of battery drain.
The important part that I wanted to see was when the screen is off, is there any activity, meaning the phone is not truely speaking. At when the phone was at its worse, there was a activity roughly every 2 minutes. That was the main cause of the battery drain.
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I took into account what you mentioned, and removed SNS completely, hell I went a step further and just uninstalled the FB app. I will use the mobile site, and that is fine and dandy for me, I don't really need or want the constant notifications anyways.
I recommend the app Juice Defender, get the ultimate version, either pirate or paid, it is well worth it. Manages your 3g and wifi better, turns them off when the aren't needed, turns them on when they are. Really handy, has at least doubled my standby time.
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I haven't used the graph, in order to find Betterbatterystats it has to be spelled just like that
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I cant say much about those tools cause I havent really used them. However, in my case, the problem was a bad calendar sync and SNS, I can see Juicedefender would maybe improve the battery life as it wont let the phone connect, but wont necessarily correct the issue at hand. Just my two cents.
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I took into account what you mentioned, and removed SNS completely, hell I went a step further and just uninstalled the FB app. I will use the mobile site, and that is fine and dandy for me, I don't really need or want the constant notifications anyways.
I haven't used the graph, in order to find Betterbatterystats it has to be spelled just like that
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FYI: I have the facebook app installed and it works fine. The problem is in the SNS when you put in your facebook info and it lets you sync fb events etc.
Also, by removing, I am hoping you mean you froze or deleted those two SNS files. Just watch Applications/Running to see if you see SNS there. If not, you are golden.
4hours of battery =) blazerRom is the best out right now. Thought it usually would be at 2% with 3g on and not wifi allday
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My phone stays "awake" constantly. How can I figure out why it is staying awake??? I think that is a big part of my battery problems.
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My phone stays "awake" constantly. How can I figure out why it is staying awake??? I think that is a big part of my battery problems.
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Betterbatterystats has a listing of programs under partial wake lock. See which is using up the most time.
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Worth mentioning, that I used Enhanced Email and turned on logging to really see what was going on, hence coming to the issue of Calendar taking forever to sync.
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How do you turn on logging in enhanced email?
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sethlo said:
How do you turn on logging in enhanced email?
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This might help:
http://enhancedemail.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=4&sid=25404e9a1c5b7b2471d2e184a1fbb6e2
saramon said:
I recommend the app Juice Defender, get the ultimate version, either pirate or paid, it is well worth it. Manages your 3g and wifi better, turns them off when the aren't needed, turns them on when they are. Really handy, has at least doubled my standby time.
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I also highly recommend this app, and have realized enormous power savings from it. My phone takes microscopic sips of electrons when in standby with JD.
However, I most emphatically DO NOT recommend that anyone be a thieving, pond-scum, crook with the ethics of a crack whore and obtain a pirated copy of this app, as saramon has recommended above. The author if this app has spent a lot of their time developing it, and should be compensated fairly. It is one of the best supported, most often update apps around. For the value it provides, there really isn't any legitimate argument justifying stealing it to avoid a few bucks.
Shame, saramon, shame.
I purchased JuiceDefender but ended up uninstalling it. Much easier just to toggle wifi and sync on-off manually, rather than tweaking it constantly. I found that the app causes more connection hassles and permission annoyances which offset any battery saving benefits it offers, and is yet another ram-draining backround process that slows my phone.
Never said that I did, but not everyone can afford it, just sayin'
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3. SNS: The symptom was that SNS would be constanting restarting when seen under Applications/ Running services. Freezing the 2 sns files took care of that. Lost facebook status messages etc for contacts but made the phone faster.
4. KERNEL and CWM : Initially, although the phone was rooted, CWM was somehow, not FULLY installed. And for some reason, the phone would go to Sprint Recovery Menu. Also, worth mentioning, kernel usage was high. Installed the Clean_kernel and the latest CWM till I was satisfied the install was good and clean. A good way to test is to watch kernel usage on better battery stats and CWM behaviour when you go to Recovery.
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I had 2 questions. First, what exactly is SNS? I see it restarting a lot as well, but I've been afraid it was something important so I've always left it alone.
And how would ClockworkMod affect battery life? Doesn't that only come into play when going into recovery mode?
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I had 2 questions. First, what exactly is SNS? I see it restarting a lot as well, but I've been afraid it was something important so I've always left it alone.
And how would ClockworkMod affect battery life? Doesn't that only come into play when going into recovery mode?
Thanks
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If you have SNS restarting it's probably because you removed the stock "Feeds & Updates" widget that came with your phone. Either freeze SNS in Titanium Backup (rooted), put the F&U widget back on one of your screens (unrooted) or kill it after every reboot (unrooted and no F&U widget).
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Never said that I did, but not everyone can afford it, just sayin'
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He's not suggesting that you did. He is just saying that you shouldn't suggest it to others.
Piracy is for children that want to feel savvy because they know how to steal Photoshop. Thepiratebay.org, kat.ph, isohunt, and the various novas aren't original or cool, everyone knows about them. The difference is that some people have grown up and understand that people that do work deserve to be paid for it.
Besides it is what? $2-3? Anyone with the intention to buy a product could afford that.
I bought After Effects, Sony Vegas, and Photoshop Elements. Elements I got on sale for $50. The others were a couple versions old and I got them for $300 and $150 respectively. I am a poor college kid. However, I know I can get a part time job and pay for the things I need and that's what I did. I only needed to work for about a month to buy all my software and now I have a legal license to use it. So Sony and Adobe won't try to steal the rights to everything I make >.>
In short, stuff only seems expensive if you have no intentions of paying for it in the first place. My family lives well below the poverty line and I still can afford a pretty decent production set up. I'm sure anyone could conjure up $2. It's less than a round trip bus ride.
I know this was long enough, but I figure I should mention this isn't an attack on you or anyone else. I feel very strongly about the subject and I would say this regardless of who brings the subject up. I have a lot of friends that disagree with me and I have pirated software in the past, I just think that people deserve the money they worked for. Perhaps prices could even go down if everyone actually paid for their software.
I got some life back out of my battery with CM7. Then went back to ERA legendary. I did all the following:
Wiped / reformatted the sd card, odined and repartitioned, odined ec05, odined CWM5, flashed ei22, flashed the rom, then kernel I wanted to try, multiple setups.... no avail. (Monitoring every combo with battery status)
What I have done now is repackaged the rom, removed the "stock" launcher (swapped for zeam) and a couple apks I though were pointless to me, and replaced the kernel so there is all only one flash. I am really starting to think mix_n_match flashing was causing an issue for me. Also, CWM 5 odined and not using the app is not giving me all the aformentioned issues or running as a background process...
So far my battery life is much better with one flash, but one thing I notice in all cases is after a reboot, better battery stats shows "system" under process tab, always highest on the list. Once charged it goes away until a phone call, reboot, and even after forced sync.
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He's not suggesting that you did. He is just saying that you shouldn't suggest it to others.
Piracy is for children that want to feel savvy because they know how to steal Photoshop. Thepiratebay.org, kat.ph, isohunt, and the various novas aren't original or cool, everyone knows about them. The difference is that some people have grown up and understand that people that do work deserve to be paid for it.
Besides it is what? $2-3? Anyone with the intention to buy a product could afford that.
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my troll post for the day.
Anybody got some good battery life tweaks w/ 4G?
I just upgraded to a 4G plan and my previous vanilla (rooted) install with minimal tweaks is seeing far worse battery life lol.
I've turned off as much syncing as I can deal with, made sure latitude is off and gtalk is signed out. Aside from that does anyone have any tips aside from turning off 4G (sob)?
Auto brightness works for me. I keep GPS and WiFi off until I use them. You could also use the One Power Guard app. It was reviewed here recently. I get around 4 hours on screen time with heavy use. That's one day normally for me.
I use AI mode only for the most part. Occasionally I use Power saving mode in the OPG app. Try it out. Let me know what you think.
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is it the mobile data signal that is killing the battery (looking at the battery stats)?
If so, could recommend an app like "AutomateIt" that turns mobile data off at a certain time of the night to help. It also helps for turning on GPS when certain apps are open.
Some tips could be:
1. Get Battery Widget App to make the phone enter AIRPLANE MODE at nights from 2 am or so til your wake up time.
2. Install Notification TOGGLE and INCLUDE LTE as a toggle, then choose CDMA instead WCDMA (or equivalent if HSDPA choose GSM) when you doesnt need the download speed and still need to mantain email and contacts notifications. Just change back when u require speed.
thanks guys looking at it from a 'do not have to turn off beautiful 4G' type question (radio tweaks? lol) but appreciate the ideas.
In all honesty its not that bad, it now has settled down to from 'great battery life' to 'about same as other smartphones' level lol, I guess auto toggling from tasker or the suggested above apps would be the key
check out an app on the play store called "Juice Defender", works like a charm.
Avoid task killer apps. They don't do any good. Some apps are culprits of battery drain (meaning they misbehave and eat up your memory)
Install system panel lite and turn on system monitor for a day to see which apps are hogging up memory.
Also it is courtesy to hit the thank you button when someone helps you. Just a tip from your friendly neighborhood spiderman.
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Anybody got some good battery life tweaks w/ 4G?
I just upgraded to a 4G plan and my previous vanilla (rooted) install with minimal tweaks is seeing far worse battery life lol.
I've turned off as much syncing as I can deal with, made sure latitude is off and gtalk is signed out. Aside from that does anyone have any tips aside from turning off 4G (sob)?
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Haha! I warned u... ... I did notice the battery takes some time to condition tho. Good luck!
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Hello to all!! I've had the same problems like the 90% of the people that installed the 4.4.2 update on my Note 3. Android OS was almost always awake and was draining the battery like hell!! Sometimes even 40% battery drop over a night!! I've tried almost everything! Factory reset - some said that a simple reboot and many other not usefull things in forums that other people suggested!! Nothing worked. Sorry for all these I say but I am very frustrated with all these people that suggests things without even knowing the problem or even tried first do some things for it. Maybe I am wrong for this but anyway. Lets continue..
SOLUTION:
1st of all! You must have root access.
2. Buy and install Autostars from google playstore! 1.5€ is nothing from what this app gives you...!!
3. Open autostarts and give root access to the app
4. It will scan your phone for all the apps running etc. When its done you will get a categorised list with actions your phone does in many different situations. Like when you put a charger or open wifi or close mobile data etc etc...
5. open the category "after boot" and underneath you will see all the actions your phone does after booting inside android system.
6. Disable the following actions:
Camera test
Camera
And anything else at you own will! Maybe you dont want to start facebook.. youtube.. etc after boot! Even though if you are not an expert on all these things (like me) dont touch any other system apps. (System apps are yellow colored inside the app) Also I've read somewhere that you must disable and the camera button in lockscreen. I don't know if this helped also. You can try it on your own. I've had it disabled in my phone from the begining. All these worked for me under NG2 kernel. I haven't tried it with NF4 kernel but I thing that it will be the same.
7. Final step. Just reboot
All the battery drain comes from a sensor in the camera that stays on after booting your phone and it doesnt leave your phone go sleep even with the screen locked. Before those things Ive hand 12-14hours roughly battery lifetime. The android os was awake the 10 hours in these 12-14 hours.... now I am 12 hours on battery with heavy use and I have 78% battery... Android Os now is just 1-2minutes awake in 12hours of use.... I hope that works on everyone try these things! I would be very happy if this works in all of you!! I was 3 days over my phone to find a solution and Ive read tooooo many forums!
Finally sorry for my english. I know that I am not very good but I ve tried..
EDITED: Uploaded pics of the HUGE difference!!! The attached image is before!
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Camera Test APK can be deleted. Will try that.
My Note 3 with KitKat 4.4.2 seems to do great with battery use. I've seen it only lose one or two percent from a full 100% charge after 8 to 12 hours if I'm not using it much. The big difference in the way I use mine however is it's in Airplane mode all of the time. I suspect that part of the phone may use a fair amount of power and depending on how far your nearest cell tower is will use a lot more power for phones that are further away from a cell tower. Phones make brief transmissions even when you are not using your phone to stay in touch with the cell tower unless you are in Airplane mode.
I am using Autorun Manager to try this out.
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Viptr said:
Hello to all!! I've had the same problems like the 90% of the people that installed the 4.4.2 update on my Note 3. Android OS was almost always awake and was draining the battery like hell!! Sometimes even 40% battery drop over a night!! I've tried almost everything! Factory reset - some said that a simple reboot and many other not usefull things in forums that other people suggested!! Nothing worked. Sorry for all these I say but I am very frustrated with all these people that suggests things without even knowing the problem or even tried first do some things for it. Maybe I am wrong for this but anyway. Lets continue..
SOLUTION:
1st of all! You must have root access.
2. Buy and install Autostars from google playstore! 1.5€ is nothing from what this app gives you...!!
3. Open autostarts and give root access to the app
4. It will scan your phone for all the apps running etc. When its done you will get a categorised list with actions your phone does in many different situations. Like when you put a charger or open wifi or close mobile data etc etc...
5. open the category "after boot" and underneath you will see all the actions your phone does after booting inside android system.
6. Disable the following actions:
Camera test
Camera
And anything else at you own will! Maybe you dont want to start facebook.. youtube.. etc after boot! Even though if you are not an expert on all these things (like me) dont touch any other system apps. (System apps are yellow colored inside the app) Also I've read somewhere that you must disable and the camera button in lockscreen. I don't know if this helped also. You can try it on your own. I've had it disabled in my phone from the begining. All these worked for me under NG2 kernel. I haven't tried it with NF4 kernel but I thing that it will be the same.
7. Final step. Just reboot
All the battery drain comes from a sensor in the camera that stays on after booting your phone and it doesnt leave your phone go sleep even with the screen locked. Before those things Ive hand 12-14hours roughly battery lifetime. The android os was awake the 10 hours in these 12-14 hours.... now I am 12 hours on battery with heavy use and I have 78% battery... Android Os now is just 1-2minutes awake in 12hours of use.... I hope that works on everyone try these things! I would be very happy if this works in all of you!! I was 3 days over my phone to find a solution and Ive read tooooo many forums!
Finally sorry for my english. I know that I am not very good but I ve tried..
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Can't find Autostars app, can you post a link?
Jason x
I believe that freezing an app and stop it from running is better than deleting it! If you freeze it and you have a problem you can just unfreeze it. Deleting it making a lot more time to fix the problem.. But sure I believe that if you can delete it then you will have the same result.
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droidzer1 said:
My Note 3 with KitKat 4.4.2 seems to do great with battery use. I've seen it only lose one or two percent from a full 100% charge after 8 to 12 hours if I'm not using it much. The big difference in the way I use mine however is it's in Airplane mode all of the time. I suspect that part of the phone may use a fair amount of power and depending on how far your nearest cell tower is will use a lot more power for phones that are further away from a cell tower. Phones make brief transmissions even when you are not using your phone to stay in touch with the cell tower unless you are in Airplane mode.
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Hello my friend! As I said in the main post this problem can be found in the majority of the phone that running the 4.4.2 kk rom. Sure the phone antenna consumes more battery when your phone is at greater distances from the cell tower and when you lose some more battery 'juice' because of this it is not considered as a battery drain problem... this is normal! Also Ive said in the post that the battery drain was from the android os and not the cell tower. When you go to the battery information to see the consumptions you will see that android os and the cell tower is in different categories. Anyway.. you should be very happy because belong to the minority of this 4.4.2. Problem and you dont have to do any of the above to get your battery back!
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Springles said:
I am using Autorun Manager to try this out.
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I dont know this app but it must do the same thing.. ! Give it a try and enjoy the results!
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code72 said:
Can't find Autostars app, can you post a link?
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I hope this link helps!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts
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I'am very pleased with the battery now! I Thing I will never update my phone again!! If my battery was brand new I bet that it would hold 2 days with my phone usage.
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For AutoStarts, BootManager module for Xposed works pretty well too
PlutoDelic said:
For AutoStarts, BootManager module for Xposed works pretty well too
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Thank you !
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