Those of you rooting your TF101, why are you doing it these days? When I had my old GTablet, rooting was a necessity because the stock configuration was just so awful. Plus, the geek in me just loves having control of things. But, to date, I've never felt a need to root my Transformer or flash a custom ROM onto it, as it's always been "good enough," and I didn't feel like breaking OTA was worth it. The only exception might be my desire to change the hardware keyboard layout to Dvorak so I can touch type on it.
But, now that apparently you can root without breaking OTA, and the potential of getting JB a bit early via CM later this summer, I'm thinking about it again. What other advantages are some of you reaping from being rooted these days?
I would say that rooting a stock rom is minimally useful (unless you have the knowledge to do modifications like many on XDA). I would suggest a custom rom like AOKP because:
1.The speed and stability is amazing.
2.You tend to get updates more frequently.
3. Overclocking
4. Titanium Backup
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1. Debloat- dont want to have apps that i dont need or can't uninstall on my device.
2. Titanium backup- being able to back up all of my apps in case something happens or when i flash different roms
3. Adblock
4. Being able to flash AOSP roms if i want a cleaner experience of android with tweaks created from source and being on the latest android version.
5 Overclocking
Updates still available after rooting if you read lizard's thread. It the same as OTA but this update is flashed via CWM. Beside this..
1) Overclocking
2) Titanium Backup
3) Droidwall = firewall
4) RootExplore = freeze unwanted apps
5) CWM = fun and life saver
6) Run Apps that need lucky patcher which required root
I rooted so I could install Debian in a chroot environment. Connect a keyboard and mouse and It's even better.
1) because i can, ive always hacked, root or jailbroken my mobile devices all the way back to rockbox and the old toshiba gigabeat and creative zen vision m.
2) custom firmwares are much better then stock
3) titanium backup
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Since I'm running a (mostly) stock firmware, everything boils down to:
Titanium Backup (both to freeze Asus bloatware and to backup apps that disable the built-in ICS backup system - ie. adb backup - in their manifest)
ClockSync
OpenVPN
NFS (to a lesser extent, I still have to rebuild the kernel and a modified busybox binary with XDR/RPC support)
adblock
freeze CMClient and DMClient
access the crash dropbox in /data to retrieve logs related to ANRs and the like
(yes, I do have CWM as well, but I pushed it via nvflash and then used it to root my device and flash guevor's kernel and the updated nvidia codecs, not the other way around )
So I could change the physical kb layout to Colemak
So I could remove all those awful Asus apps
If I could do both of these things without root, I'd happily stay unrooted.
Cause all the cool kids are doing it.
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kiz said:
So I could change the physical kb layout to Colemak
So I could remove all those awful Asus apps
If I could do both of these things without root, I'd happily stay unrooted.
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How did you go about changing the physical keyboard? Did you manually alter the mapping file, or is there a good tool for it?
Fix Asus problem
I had that bug where my tablet would randomly go into a boot-loop and drain the battery. I would go to use it and the damn thing would be dead... and it happened quite a few times before I broke down and rooted/flashed a new rom. Problem solved.
Overclocking and added features were my main reasons.
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TheQuicksilver said:
How did you go about changing the physical keyboard? Did you manually alter the mapping file, or is there a good tool for it?
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There are some layout files specifically for the TF dock in /system/usr/xt9/keylayout/ specifically qwerty-en_GB.kl (for UK) or qwerty-en_US.kl (for US) (..etc) that are thankfully plain text files. Just edit them, reboot and enjoy your new layout!
Took a while to work out because I had been editing the layouts in /system/usr/keylayout to no avail.
I'm typing in colemak with it right now, well worth rooting for
titanium backup alone is enough reason to root for me.
Out of reasons already exposed here, I rooted my devices because I can install a firewall which disable on demand wifi/3G/phone access to application. Very useful for applications which have too many ads or too aggressive ads
Titanium Backup... Plus it's fun to tinker with your device.
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The reason why i rooted my tf101 was because i wanted to try some custom roms and kernels. I usually hate it when i get a new device and its bloated up junk apps and settings. I also like that i can tinker with it and try to get maximum performance without sacrificing battery power.
Also i hope a nice Jelly Bean rom comes out for the tf101 so that it can finally have smooth animations and look plain beautiful.
Titanium backup, custom boot animations and PS3 controller pairing without the dock.
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Strictly to overclock. Now Tegra 2 doesn't seem too obsolete, and runs everything I throw at it very well.
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Any recommendations for a restart button? I'm too lazy to power off then power on the device.
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Quick Boot!! Nice app..
Does that actually reboo the tab?
I thought all it did was kill all running apps to 'simulate' a reboot.
It DOES need root access though (and I've not yet seen any point to rooting the A500).
Fluffbutt said:
Does that actually reboo the tab?
I thought all it did was kill all running apps to 'simulate' a reboot.
It DOES need root access though (and I've not yet seen any point to rooting the A500).
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It definitely reboots! The pro version has a mode that "simulates" a reboot, similar to what you're talking about.
Fluffbutt said:
It DOES need root access though (and I've not yet seen any point to rooting the A500).
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Although it's not the subject, I really wanted to note that rooting A500 does worth it for sure. I'm using ADFree, ClockSync, Autokiller, File Expert, NTFS mount, Root uninstaller and a few more root-required applications which add some epic user experience. Just consider unrooting your device back before installing any updates or system modifications. Cheers.
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Although it's not the subject, I really wanted to note that rooting A500 does worth it for sure. I'm using ADFree, ClockSync, Autokiller, File Expert, NTFS mount, Root uninstaller and a few more root-required applications which add some epic user experience. Just consider unrooting your device back before installing any updates or system modifications. Cheers.
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Yes, i wasn't trying to bring it up as a subject, just asking if rooting it was worth it for the reboot app.
I can see some people might want root, and the ADFree is probably one good reason. The rest don't interest me at all.
I used to have a custom Darky's ROM on my previous Samsung Galaxy S, I had an extra power-off menu letting me choose Reboot or Shutdown or even Recovery or Download modes. Obviously, I was using the feature to reboot the device pretty often; I'd like to have a one-button widget rebooting my device properly.
Also, about the apps which don't interest u..
*my tablet is usually about +/-2,5 sec every time I shut it down, not reboot;
*autokiller helps to save memory, at least I can be sure I don't have to start a game level again because of an e-mail or something like this;
*a decent root file explorer letting you see hidden system directories is a must just because any minimal and safe modifications do improve performance
I just got the TF today at Best Buy (black seal, B60KAS) and it only have 3.01. I was thinking of upgrading to 3.1 via ASUS website, but I noticed that there is no root for 3.1.
I have Verizon Thunderbolt and I HAD to root it to remove the BLOATWARE and install custom ROM to INCREASE battery life. But the TF doesn't have bloatware (not that I know off) that decreases battery life, so I am thinking I don't need to install custom ROM. Additionally, I backed up my data through the file system. For example, I use Pocket Money and it have a feature to backup data to a file, which I can then safely backup to my computer. I don't use Titanium Backup since I don't need to freeze bloatware nor restore data, since I do backup manually per the above.
So besides installing CWM and custom ROM, what is the benefit of rooting the TF?
lanwarrior said:
I just got the TF today at Best Buy (black seal, B60KAS) and it only have 3.01. I was thinking of upgrading to 3.1 via ASUS website, but I noticed that there is no root for 3.1.
I have Verizon Thunderbolt and I HAD to root it to remove the BLOATWARE and install custom ROM to INCREASE battery life. But the TF doesn't have bloatware (not that I know off) that decreases battery life, so I am thinking I don't need to install custom ROM. Additionally, I backed up my data through the file system. For example, I use Pocket Money and it have a feature to backup data to a file, which I can then safely backup to my computer. I don't use Titanium Backup since I don't need to freeze bloatware nor restore data, since I do backup manually per the above.
So besides installing CWM and custom ROM, what is the benefit of rooting the TF?
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You can root and install any ROM (even stock 3.1 w/ root), using nvflash, so there is root even if you update to 3.1. Benefits are smoother operations due to optimizations on custom ROMs such as Prime and Modaco. Overclocking with kernels such as Netformer or clemsyn's. Adblock using Adfree and Absolute System tools (or modify the hosts file yourself). Overriding memory management profiles for better multitasking and possibly memory utilization. CIFS (Windows File Share) mounting. TUN (OpenVPN capabilities) and UI customizations of your choice (various themes, stock Honeycomb icons).
For me, the main thing why to root was cifs support (playing things from my home samba shares).
the biggest incentive to root your TF is overclocking...
The two biggest reasons for me is cifs and fixing my unbalance speakers issue. Still can't believe how balance the speakers are now
To have total control.
Depends how technical you want to get with it..for me one of the main reasons i rooted was to enjoy linux on it. The customizations and the roms are definitely a huge plus also and worth it. These days with the unbricking methods your almost totally safe to do it.
dazz87 said:
The two biggest reasons for me is cifs and fixing my unbalance speakers issue. Still can't believe how balance the speakers are now
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What do you mean by "CIFS"? Does it mean you can map a network drive and open any files (Video, documents, etc.) through the mapped drive?
I assume this is via a custom ROM? I don't see anything in the stock file manager to even map a network drive.
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What do you mean by "CIFS"? Does it mean you can map a network drive and open any files (Video, documents, etc.) through the mapped drive?
I assume this is via a custom ROM? I don't see anything in the stock file manager to even map a network drive.
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Yes PRIME! 1.4. Took me an hour to get CIFS manager to figure out how to mount the network folder. I had to turn on guest acct and give it read/write permission.
- Custom ROMs - not as many as pre-HC phones, but there are still some that improve on the stock Asus ROM.
- Titanium Backup - needs no explanation, really useful for game saves.
- adbWireless - Transformer's cable is way too short, so I use this to move files and install new programs.
- Remove unwanted junk - while a carrier branded phone has much more, the Asus still probably has some apps pre-installed which you won't use, I removed over half a dozen .apk and .odex files.
Then there's overclocking, sound fixes, custom boot animations (I love Honeybee!)... the list just goes on, and there are no downsides to rooting and you can even unroot later. So I would ask you, why not root it?
The purpose of rooting the device is because....
I can & I'm on XDA. So why not?
Personally, I do it for Titanium Backup. It allows me to kind of sync game saves between my phone and tablet. I hate having separate game saves and starting from scratch.
Titanium Backup
Custom ROMs
Tweaks
Garbage disposal (not as serious as cell phones)
One thing I never liked about not having root, it is my tablet, I paid for it and I want to do whatever. It should have a manufacturer option to enable root when you buy!
OC + AdFree.
-bZj
frosty5689 said:
You can root and install any ROM (even stock 3.1 w/ root), using nvflash
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Could you provide me with the link on nvflash for 3.1? I haven't found yet, but then again.. there are so many root instructions thread so I want to make sure I got the right one.
lanwarrior said:
Could you provide me with the link on nvflash for 3.1? I haven't found yet, but then again.. there are so many root instructions thread so I want to make sure I got the right one.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123429
and Prime 1.5 for nvflash http://www.sdx-downloads.com/devs/roach2010/flash_roms/prime_v1.5_nvflash.tar.bz2
Why would you ever need to overclock a tablet though? I get all the other incentives but I don't see a point to overclocking the TF.
FYI, I have rooted my Eee but I am holding off the ROM because Prime 1.5 have LOTS of problems, the biggest one is the Sleep of Death (SOD).
So far, no fix yet and this has been going on for a long time now....
Problems... every software does, including stock. Lots... doubtful.
Wipe cache, wipe Dalvik and it should be pretty stable. Mine has been flawless.
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lanwarrior said:
FYI, I have rooted my Eee but I am holding off the ROM because Prime 1.5 have LOTS of problems, the biggest one is the Sleep of Death (SOD).
So far, no fix yet and this has been going on for a long time now....
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Prime 1.5 has been flawless for me.
Hello,
If I root my stock Aconia will it pose issues later when official OTA updates will be pushed? I like honeycomb as it is and don't want to have custom ROM installed but want it to be rooted.
No, rooting won't have any affect on updates. However, if you remove any stock applications / games then yes, it could (will definitely) very well cause updates to fail - otherwise, happy rooting!
I believe it won't prevent you from getting the OTA updates, but be aware that whatever incremental update you do, you lose root access and you have to root once again either with the released methods or wait for a new one to be developed (some opennings for the root process might get patched with the updates, so developers look for new creative ways to root the device).
caution after root
Rooting will not stop ota.if you do root.
Install Acer recovery/clockwork mod make good. Backups.and any system files you alter bee sure to jus5t rename and save a backup of original files.as altering files even game preloaded on your tab. Will cause issues on installing ota updates.
Go cautiously and educated and you will be fine.there is a awesome bunch of talented people in here.
They deserve our most given respect. Thanks xda developers.and the developers and advanced users here.
Hugged to all.
erica_renee said:
Rooting will not stop ota.if you do root.
Install Acer recovery/clockwork mod make good. Backups.and any system files you alter bee sure to jus5t rename and save a backup of original files.as altering files even game preloaded on your tab. Will cause issues on installing ota updates.
Go cautiously and educated and you will be fine.there is a awesome bunch of talented people in here.
They deserve our most given respect. Thanks xda developers.and the developers and advanced users here.
Hugged to all.
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I don't understand why do you want to have custom ROM for Honeycomb? I understand if you want it for phones becouse phones are frequently full bloat (much more then tablet), restrict tethering, very slow to update rollout due to vendor QA etc. But Tablet seems to me good from all this points of view the way it comes from a store. The only drawback is lack of root.
Some of the ROMs port over system-specific apps and libraries. For instance, the 'stock' Acer libraries won't support Netflix streaming; replace one of the files with a lib from a different tablet and bingo! Technically you can do the same thing using Root Explorer etc.; consider the various ROMs as pre-packaged replacements.
I'm personally a vanilla fan, although I will probably experiment with some 3rd party kernels in the future (not a full ROM replacement) because I like seeing how fast I can push my CPU without crashes
And as stated above, if you do anything with any of the pre-installed apps etc. once rooted (say, replace the wpa_supplicant file with one that supports ad-hoc networking) be sure to keep a backup of the original in case the next OTA checks that file.
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I don't understand why do you want to have custom ROM for Honeycomb? I understand if you want it for phones becouse phones are frequently full bloat (much more then tablet), restrict tethering, very slow to update rollout due to vendor QA etc. But Tablet seems to me good from all this points of view the way it comes from a store. The only drawback is lack of root.
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I have no custom rom installed its just currently the easier way to Do a system backup.something Acer should have giving us.but that's another topic.the cwr recovery will let you backup your system.
erica_renee said:
I have no custom rom installed its just currently the easier way to Do a system backup.something Acer should have giving us.but that's another topic.the cwr recovery will let you backup your system.
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MyBackupRoot will do that as well as Titanium backup without modifying boot loader and having possibility of bricking device in the process.
I was thinking of making a custom rooting script for CWM (probably wouldn't release it), and I mostly want it to have a very small footprint and still have it feel like an unmodified Nook. I've mostly been using CM7 from an SD and haven't dealt with the stock OS much, but lately I've been using it more and I just like the way it's set up for some reason. I rooted it last night, but quickly reverted back after finding most apps 'weren't compatible with my Nook,' surprisingly including Nook Tweaks (I'll admit I was in a bit of a rush and wanted to get back to reading my book, otherwise I probably would have experimented more ). I also found that the apps installed with the root didn't show up in the stock launcher, and I'm not sure if that can be changed, or if it's already like that and I just needed to install an app from the Play Store and it would show up. Oh, and is there a manual root tutorial for 1.4.2 I can base my script on? Otherwise I'm just going to pull some stuff from my script for the Nook Simple Touch and ManualNooter.
You can add non-B&N apps to the B&N home screen using Nook Color App Manager. ManualNooter is pretty lightweight, and would be a good starting point for rooting the NC. I ran B&N 1.4.2 for months using it, and it worked very much as you describe.
Thanks! Only one problem, the Play store won't let me install it for some reason just like Nook Tweaks... How would I fix that?
Edit: And magically, it works now and I can install anything. Huh.
Hello,
I apologize if I am using the wrong terminology.
My company is looking at buying around 100 nexus 10's.
Utilizing the Google Nexus 10 Toolkit that someone here was nice enough to make, I have unlocked the bootloader, rooted, etc.
I then install anttek app manager and use it to freeze all the unnecessary applications my company doesn't want. (which is pretty much everything, except Zenprise, Junos Pulse and Citrix Receiver)
Now that I have the single tablet ready to go, I use my toolbox app, and create a NANDROID backup.
Which I am them hoping I can copy the backup onto a couple different PC's and then assemblyline unlocking the bootloader, installing custom recovery and then restoring the other 99 tablets using this backup I created. Rather than having to go through and freezing all the apps on each tablet
Does this seem like it will work, or is the most efficient way? I'm having problems where I get an error that google play services failed to open upon each boot up that I'm trying to resolve. Would this be considered a ROM? Can I name it? :silly:
Yeah, it should definitely work, I'd just relock the bootloaders on the other devices.
You could also script the freezing of all the packages, I believe the command is "pm disable".
I'm not sure, but it's possible you'll wind up cloning device ID numbers with NANDROID backup.
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Hello,
I apologize if I am using the wrong terminology.
My company is looking at buying around 100 nexus 10's.
Utilizing the Google Nexus 10 Toolkit that someone here was nice enough to make, I have unlocked the bootloader, rooted, etc.
I then install anttek app manager and use it to freeze all the unnecessary applications my company doesn't want. (which is pretty much everything, except Zenprise, Junos Pulse and Citrix Receiver)
Now that I have the single tablet ready to go, I use my toolbox app, and create a NANDROID backup.
Which I am them hoping I can copy the backup onto a couple different PC's and then assemblyline unlocking the bootloader, installing custom recovery and then restoring the other 99 tablets using this backup I created. Rather than having to go through and freezing all the apps on each tablet
Does this seem like it will work, or is the most efficient way? I'm having problems where I get an error that google play services failed to open upon each boot up that I'm trying to resolve. Would this be considered a ROM? Can I name it? :silly:
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This sounds like it could very well be possible, you may want to factory reset etc. the first device to try to smooth out the issues before using the backup on any other devices though. In a technical sense you could indeed call it a ROM because you've taken the stock firmware and slightly altered the default system so you could name and then distribute it around the company as your ROM
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Thanks folks,
And it's went off without much of a hitch. I'll have to check to see if the device ID's are duplicating. Thinking of naming my ROM "Turning $600 sex machine into a $4 terminal.zip" v.0.4, now.
lol