I just got the TF today at Best Buy (black seal, B60KAS) and it only have 3.01. I was thinking of upgrading to 3.1 via ASUS website, but I noticed that there is no root for 3.1.
I have Verizon Thunderbolt and I HAD to root it to remove the BLOATWARE and install custom ROM to INCREASE battery life. But the TF doesn't have bloatware (not that I know off) that decreases battery life, so I am thinking I don't need to install custom ROM. Additionally, I backed up my data through the file system. For example, I use Pocket Money and it have a feature to backup data to a file, which I can then safely backup to my computer. I don't use Titanium Backup since I don't need to freeze bloatware nor restore data, since I do backup manually per the above.
So besides installing CWM and custom ROM, what is the benefit of rooting the TF?
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I just got the TF today at Best Buy (black seal, B60KAS) and it only have 3.01. I was thinking of upgrading to 3.1 via ASUS website, but I noticed that there is no root for 3.1.
I have Verizon Thunderbolt and I HAD to root it to remove the BLOATWARE and install custom ROM to INCREASE battery life. But the TF doesn't have bloatware (not that I know off) that decreases battery life, so I am thinking I don't need to install custom ROM. Additionally, I backed up my data through the file system. For example, I use Pocket Money and it have a feature to backup data to a file, which I can then safely backup to my computer. I don't use Titanium Backup since I don't need to freeze bloatware nor restore data, since I do backup manually per the above.
So besides installing CWM and custom ROM, what is the benefit of rooting the TF?
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You can root and install any ROM (even stock 3.1 w/ root), using nvflash, so there is root even if you update to 3.1. Benefits are smoother operations due to optimizations on custom ROMs such as Prime and Modaco. Overclocking with kernels such as Netformer or clemsyn's. Adblock using Adfree and Absolute System tools (or modify the hosts file yourself). Overriding memory management profiles for better multitasking and possibly memory utilization. CIFS (Windows File Share) mounting. TUN (OpenVPN capabilities) and UI customizations of your choice (various themes, stock Honeycomb icons).
For me, the main thing why to root was cifs support (playing things from my home samba shares).
the biggest incentive to root your TF is overclocking...
The two biggest reasons for me is cifs and fixing my unbalance speakers issue. Still can't believe how balance the speakers are now
To have total control.
Depends how technical you want to get with it..for me one of the main reasons i rooted was to enjoy linux on it. The customizations and the roms are definitely a huge plus also and worth it. These days with the unbricking methods your almost totally safe to do it.
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The two biggest reasons for me is cifs and fixing my unbalance speakers issue. Still can't believe how balance the speakers are now
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What do you mean by "CIFS"? Does it mean you can map a network drive and open any files (Video, documents, etc.) through the mapped drive?
I assume this is via a custom ROM? I don't see anything in the stock file manager to even map a network drive.
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What do you mean by "CIFS"? Does it mean you can map a network drive and open any files (Video, documents, etc.) through the mapped drive?
I assume this is via a custom ROM? I don't see anything in the stock file manager to even map a network drive.
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Yes PRIME! 1.4. Took me an hour to get CIFS manager to figure out how to mount the network folder. I had to turn on guest acct and give it read/write permission.
- Custom ROMs - not as many as pre-HC phones, but there are still some that improve on the stock Asus ROM.
- Titanium Backup - needs no explanation, really useful for game saves.
- adbWireless - Transformer's cable is way too short, so I use this to move files and install new programs.
- Remove unwanted junk - while a carrier branded phone has much more, the Asus still probably has some apps pre-installed which you won't use, I removed over half a dozen .apk and .odex files.
Then there's overclocking, sound fixes, custom boot animations (I love Honeybee!)... the list just goes on, and there are no downsides to rooting and you can even unroot later. So I would ask you, why not root it?
The purpose of rooting the device is because....
I can & I'm on XDA. So why not?
Personally, I do it for Titanium Backup. It allows me to kind of sync game saves between my phone and tablet. I hate having separate game saves and starting from scratch.
Titanium Backup
Custom ROMs
Tweaks
Garbage disposal (not as serious as cell phones)
One thing I never liked about not having root, it is my tablet, I paid for it and I want to do whatever. It should have a manufacturer option to enable root when you buy!
OC + AdFree.
-bZj
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You can root and install any ROM (even stock 3.1 w/ root), using nvflash
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Could you provide me with the link on nvflash for 3.1? I haven't found yet, but then again.. there are so many root instructions thread so I want to make sure I got the right one.
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Could you provide me with the link on nvflash for 3.1? I haven't found yet, but then again.. there are so many root instructions thread so I want to make sure I got the right one.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123429
and Prime 1.5 for nvflash http://www.sdx-downloads.com/devs/roach2010/flash_roms/prime_v1.5_nvflash.tar.bz2
Why would you ever need to overclock a tablet though? I get all the other incentives but I don't see a point to overclocking the TF.
FYI, I have rooted my Eee but I am holding off the ROM because Prime 1.5 have LOTS of problems, the biggest one is the Sleep of Death (SOD).
So far, no fix yet and this has been going on for a long time now....
Problems... every software does, including stock. Lots... doubtful.
Wipe cache, wipe Dalvik and it should be pretty stable. Mine has been flawless.
Skickat från min ASUS Eee Pad TF101
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FYI, I have rooted my Eee but I am holding off the ROM because Prime 1.5 have LOTS of problems, the biggest one is the Sleep of Death (SOD).
So far, no fix yet and this has been going on for a long time now....
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Prime 1.5 has been flawless for me.
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I've considered rooting and installing a custom ROM dozens of times ever since I got my Droid X back in August and I've finally decided I'm just going to do it, but i just want to double check a few things before I root my phone and install Fission:
1. I know that rooting voids your warranty, but if I have problems with my phone and I end up needing repairs, can I just unroot my phone back to stock and still have my phone be covered under the warranty?
2. Will my phone be secure rooted with a custom ROM? I don't want people having access to my personal info contact data, and my passwords.
3. If I Overclock to say 1.2 or 1.3 Ghz with ULV, will I have stability problems with demanding 3D games or other demanding apps?
4. After I root and install my Custom Rom, will I need to reactivate my phone or need to re-add my phone contacts/apps?
5. Will Z4Root work on system version 2.3.340?
I have unrooted and exchanged under warranty with no problems. Your phone will be just as secure. 1.2-1.3 are very stable on my phone. If you do have to reactivate it's as easy as dialing *228 and following the prompts. If your contacts are "google" contacts they'll return to your phonebook. Your apps from the market shall return without a problem. And yes, z4root will work with your system version.
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I am having difficulty rooting my droid x. I am an android noob, but am a pretty savvy user. I used z4 (permanant) and it says it has been rooted when i launch the app. However i see no appreciable difference in access. My terminal still shows a $ prompt and i cannot uninstall verizons crapware. I used rage against the cage prior to z4 with similar results, but i was able to at least get temporary su access and install the bootstrap recovery and perform a system level backup. It reverted to user access after rebooting. Please help.
Superuser confirmation
alright, if you want super user privileges in terminal type "su", then once you hit enter, you get "#" instead of "$" To test if you have root access, first check app drawer for "Superuser" if its there, open an app that requires it, (wifi teather, root explorer, rom manager to name a few) you should get a pop up similar to this
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...=1&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0&biw=888&bih=638
that would be a diffinitive confirmation that you have superuser permissions.
The way I remove verizons crap once rooted, is to use root explorer, go to system/app and find the .apk files you want to remove. There are lists around the forums what is safe to remove. I highly recommend simply renaming the files. For example, the 3g hotspot app is called mynet.apk, so I would just rename it to mynet.bak, or mynet.apk.bak, really anything that lets you know what it is, but removes the .apk extension.
Ok, I have confirmed su access, but am unable to rename any of the offending .apk's. I am simply told that the operation was unsuccessful. I have tried a couple of different file managers, as well as trying from a terminal, still no luck. I like 2.2.1 alright, but if i can't control what apps are running on my phone with root access, I may want another ROM. Any suggestions are appreciated, aswell as any links to a rom installer that is pc-less.
I usually rename apk's from Root Explorer, just prefer the graphical interface, so I can't really help you on the terminal process.
Rom manager is "pc-less" although most roms are posted in forums first it is often the easiest route, also lets you make backups and restore. There are a few posts around on how to install a rom you might want to read first. Also, you should find the thread for the rom before you flash it, in favor of size and speed, some developers go down to bare minimum and may remove something you need/want.
I have not used it, but I hear Titanium Backup allows you to "Freeze" apps, so that is a possible route also.
2.2.1 is not exclusive to people running official vzw builds, many of the roms on the forum (and rom manager) are running 2.2.1, so you will not be taking a step back to an earlier release.
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I usually rename apk's from Root Explorer, just prefer the graphical interface, so I can't really help you on the terminal process.
Rom manager is "pc-less" although most roms are posted in forums first it is often the easiest route, also lets you make backups and restore. There are a few posts around on how to install a rom you might want to read first. Also, you should find the thread for the rom before you flash it, in favor of size and speed, some developers go down to bare minimum and may remove something you need/want.
I have not used it, but I hear Titanium Backup allows you to "Freeze" apps, so that is a possible route also.
2.2.1 is not exclusive to people running official vzw builds, many of the roms on the forum (and rom manager) are running 2.2.1, so you will not be taking a step back to an earlier release.
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If you are trying to rename apps in the /system/app portion of the OS, you will need to mount /system as RW first.
from terminal: mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
After it has been mounted read-write, you should be able to rename...
to remount as read-only: mount -o ro,remount /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
zwade01 said:
I have unrooted and exchanged under warranty with no problems. Your phone will be just as secure. 1.2-1.3 are very stable on my phone. If you do have to reactivate it's as easy as dialing *228 and following the prompts. If your contacts are "google" contacts they'll return to your phonebook. Your apps from the market shall return without a problem. And yes, z4root will work with your system version.
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Thank you for your response. Just out of curiosity, did you (or anyone else for that matter) have to reactivate your phone after rooting and installing a custom ROM? I'd rather not have to re-activate my phone every time I want to update a ROM or change to a different ROM.
Thank all of you for the great info. Here's what I've learned after a day of rooting and romming: titanium freezes apps only in the paid version, z4 was the most user friendly app for rooting noobs, milestone overclock works well if you have the patience to lock up your phone several times finding the right settings, and I'm digging apeX 1.3.1. Thx to everyone for your help, i will definately be checking here frequently. One last question: where might i find a side by side comparo of roms with things like features and memory footprint, etc.? Or am I asking for too much. Im not scared of the search button, but i will defer to the more experienced of you. Thanks again.
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Thank you for your response. Just out of curiosity, did you (or anyone else for that matter) have to reactivate your phone after rooting and installing a custom ROM? I'd rather not have to re-activate my phone every time I want to update a ROM or change to a different ROM.
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I used rom manager to load apeX 1.3.1 and did not need to #228. I did not clear the user data or cache, but I do not know if that affected my results or not. Your mileage may vary.
stpvapor said:
Thank all of you for the great info. Here's what I've learned after a day of rooting and romming: titanium freezes apps only in the paid version, z4 was the most user friendly app for rooting noobs, milestone overclock works well if you have the patience to lock up your phone several times finding the right settings, and I'm digging apeX 1.3.1. Thx to everyone for your help, i will definately be checking here frequently. One last question: where might i find a side by side comparo of roms with things like features and memory footprint, etc.? Or am I asking for too much. Im not scared of the search button, but i will defer to the more experienced of you. Thanks again.
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I don't know that anyone has really done a side by side per say. Since you say you are apeX, then if you are looking for more ROM's that contain blur features, then I would recommend looking into ZapX Bazinga, or Fusion (from the same creator as Fission, but just with blur). I have not worked with any of the Blur ROM's so far...
If you are looking for ROM's that do not have blur, then the big ones are Liberty, Fission 2.5.7, GummyJar 2.5, and Rubix Focused 1.9.5. Liberty is the big one right now, because it just came out and combines the great talents of Kejar31 and Jrummy. Most others I believe are using Fission. All are great choices, as the dev's do some AMAZING work.
Each has their owns unique feel...so I woudl recommend just digging through each thread for their respective ROM's as they usually include what components are built into each ROM on the original post of each thread.
Hope this helps somewhat =)
another ROM to try is DarkSlide. It comes in both flavors, Blurred & Blurless. It's fast, stable & well supported. You only have to re-activate if you wind up bricking your phone & have to flash an SBF. My advice it to spend the $$ on DroidXBootstrapper (available in the market) to make a nandroid backup prior to flashing your new ROM. This way you have a base to go back to in the event you run into problems, or want to try multiple ROMS. One other suggestion is to rename each backup into something that will let you know what the backup actually is, like StockROMBU or the like.
Any recommendations for a restart button? I'm too lazy to power off then power on the device.
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Quick Boot!! Nice app..
Does that actually reboo the tab?
I thought all it did was kill all running apps to 'simulate' a reboot.
It DOES need root access though (and I've not yet seen any point to rooting the A500).
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Does that actually reboo the tab?
I thought all it did was kill all running apps to 'simulate' a reboot.
It DOES need root access though (and I've not yet seen any point to rooting the A500).
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It definitely reboots! The pro version has a mode that "simulates" a reboot, similar to what you're talking about.
Fluffbutt said:
It DOES need root access though (and I've not yet seen any point to rooting the A500).
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Although it's not the subject, I really wanted to note that rooting A500 does worth it for sure. I'm using ADFree, ClockSync, Autokiller, File Expert, NTFS mount, Root uninstaller and a few more root-required applications which add some epic user experience. Just consider unrooting your device back before installing any updates or system modifications. Cheers.
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Although it's not the subject, I really wanted to note that rooting A500 does worth it for sure. I'm using ADFree, ClockSync, Autokiller, File Expert, NTFS mount, Root uninstaller and a few more root-required applications which add some epic user experience. Just consider unrooting your device back before installing any updates or system modifications. Cheers.
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Yes, i wasn't trying to bring it up as a subject, just asking if rooting it was worth it for the reboot app.
I can see some people might want root, and the ADFree is probably one good reason. The rest don't interest me at all.
I used to have a custom Darky's ROM on my previous Samsung Galaxy S, I had an extra power-off menu letting me choose Reboot or Shutdown or even Recovery or Download modes. Obviously, I was using the feature to reboot the device pretty often; I'd like to have a one-button widget rebooting my device properly.
Also, about the apps which don't interest u..
*my tablet is usually about +/-2,5 sec every time I shut it down, not reboot;
*autokiller helps to save memory, at least I can be sure I don't have to start a game level again because of an e-mail or something like this;
*a decent root file explorer letting you see hidden system directories is a must just because any minimal and safe modifications do improve performance
Hello,
If I root my stock Aconia will it pose issues later when official OTA updates will be pushed? I like honeycomb as it is and don't want to have custom ROM installed but want it to be rooted.
No, rooting won't have any affect on updates. However, if you remove any stock applications / games then yes, it could (will definitely) very well cause updates to fail - otherwise, happy rooting!
I believe it won't prevent you from getting the OTA updates, but be aware that whatever incremental update you do, you lose root access and you have to root once again either with the released methods or wait for a new one to be developed (some opennings for the root process might get patched with the updates, so developers look for new creative ways to root the device).
caution after root
Rooting will not stop ota.if you do root.
Install Acer recovery/clockwork mod make good. Backups.and any system files you alter bee sure to jus5t rename and save a backup of original files.as altering files even game preloaded on your tab. Will cause issues on installing ota updates.
Go cautiously and educated and you will be fine.there is a awesome bunch of talented people in here.
They deserve our most given respect. Thanks xda developers.and the developers and advanced users here.
Hugged to all.
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Rooting will not stop ota.if you do root.
Install Acer recovery/clockwork mod make good. Backups.and any system files you alter bee sure to jus5t rename and save a backup of original files.as altering files even game preloaded on your tab. Will cause issues on installing ota updates.
Go cautiously and educated and you will be fine.there is a awesome bunch of talented people in here.
They deserve our most given respect. Thanks xda developers.and the developers and advanced users here.
Hugged to all.
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I don't understand why do you want to have custom ROM for Honeycomb? I understand if you want it for phones becouse phones are frequently full bloat (much more then tablet), restrict tethering, very slow to update rollout due to vendor QA etc. But Tablet seems to me good from all this points of view the way it comes from a store. The only drawback is lack of root.
Some of the ROMs port over system-specific apps and libraries. For instance, the 'stock' Acer libraries won't support Netflix streaming; replace one of the files with a lib from a different tablet and bingo! Technically you can do the same thing using Root Explorer etc.; consider the various ROMs as pre-packaged replacements.
I'm personally a vanilla fan, although I will probably experiment with some 3rd party kernels in the future (not a full ROM replacement) because I like seeing how fast I can push my CPU without crashes
And as stated above, if you do anything with any of the pre-installed apps etc. once rooted (say, replace the wpa_supplicant file with one that supports ad-hoc networking) be sure to keep a backup of the original in case the next OTA checks that file.
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I don't understand why do you want to have custom ROM for Honeycomb? I understand if you want it for phones becouse phones are frequently full bloat (much more then tablet), restrict tethering, very slow to update rollout due to vendor QA etc. But Tablet seems to me good from all this points of view the way it comes from a store. The only drawback is lack of root.
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I have no custom rom installed its just currently the easier way to Do a system backup.something Acer should have giving us.but that's another topic.the cwr recovery will let you backup your system.
erica_renee said:
I have no custom rom installed its just currently the easier way to Do a system backup.something Acer should have giving us.but that's another topic.the cwr recovery will let you backup your system.
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MyBackupRoot will do that as well as Titanium backup without modifying boot loader and having possibility of bricking device in the process.
Good Morning!
I'm getting the Nook Simple Touch by the next week and I'm preparing for the big arrive. I'm trying to find the differences between the various forms of rooting but I couldn't find it.
Also, does any of these have the ability of changing the shutdown image right out-of-the-box, as described in here?
Thank you
The Newest and fastest nooter is TorimuNooter. TorimuNooter newest update kills the infamous "battry drain" dilemma.
mods please remove this post.
Help?
Which is the newest and fastest? I heard that torimunooter saves your battery better than touchnooter, minimaltouch, or salchianooter is that true?
TorimuNooter
Use TorimuNooter
hitman484 said:
Which is the newest and fastest? I heard that torimunooter saves your battery better than touchnooter, minimaltouch, or salchianooter is that true?
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It underclocks the CPU so it uses less power, but with how much I use my Nook and the type of stuff I do, I don't really notice it. Or maybe it'd be going do 50% instead of 30%. I'll have to run some actual tests on my Nook.
Torimu.Joji said:
Use TorimuNooter
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Saying yes if fine, but you're kind of advertising at this point. :/
nunocasteleira said:
Good Morning!
I'm getting the Nook Simple Touch by the next week and I'm preparing for the big arrive. I'm trying to find the differences between the various forms of rooting but I couldn't find it.
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There are some, keep reading.
nunocasteleira said:
Also, does any of these have the ability of changing the shutdown image right out-of-the-box, as described in here?
Thank you
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Nope, no one has added that functionality yet, suggest it to Tori, maybe he will, if people are interested ^^.
I don’t want to sound harsh or anything.
I'd personally recommend, at this time, using two methods:
Touchnooter and Minimal Touch.
Why?
Well ToriNooter, is Salchichanooter with different apps, a repack, it actually doesn’t bring anything new to the rooting method, or helps to resolve the problems that the process had, it issues other problems, yes, with apps, but not the rooting process.
Market search doesn’t work in market, it works using another app, and of course, there is the thing of modifying the system files while the system is running, which may lead to the corruption of some databases and making the market not usable (sometimes, as what happens with all the Nooters, not with the MinimalTouch).
The TouchNooter just installs the base system files for Gapps to work, Root, and a launcher, but on the latest version it is trying to address the issues of market not searching (changing the Vending.apk) and the Market not working (the 1 day waiting), and of course is the original automated method, but still, for me, has the problem of modifying system files while the system is loaded.
MinimalTouch, has different versions and packs you can use, all with different functionalities, read my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346748
But for me, the real change on this method is that it modifies system files without the system running, so databases won’t become corrupt when changing critical files, Market search works as intended, and Market works 100% of time and for 100% of the people.
It addresses all the original issues on the latest Nooters, the problem, is that it is a bit more complex to install, instead of burning and inserting just the SD, you must burn CWM on the SDcard then copy two zip files, flash one, reboot, flash another, not hard, but still, a few steps extra.
If you have problems with any other of the Nooters, you should try this method (MinimalTouch) ^^.
This is just my opinion, what you use is up to you, after saying all this, dont get me wrong, ToriNooter is also a valid option which has nice and usefull apps
TorimuNooter cause of the battery efficiency
EDIT : nvm this. i just got my nook and was trying to root it and so had no idea what i was doing. So i first tried installing the new touchnooter 2.xx and i think it was broken?(or since i was a newbie didnt know how to fix it).So i was watching this one guy root his nook and after i rooted mine it looked nothing like it. i had no android home screen but it showed the button saviour app which didnt work. Then i tried Tomirunooter and everything went well. But now since i understand more about rooting, how it works and a little android debugging. I would now prefer the new Touchnooter but i am too lazy to go over the whole process again(the wole weekend i was workin on rooting my nook). Besides Tomirunooter is just a repack of the apps available and wasnt a very good repack either(no offence). Some of the apps were broken(aldiko) and i had many apps i never wanted. The sad thing was it was read only so i coudnt uninstall them and didnt know about ES file explorer either.
TL;DR : Changed opinion. go for touchnooter instead. install ALL THE APPS after
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TorimuNooter cause of the battery efficiency
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What do you mean? Are you saying that TorimuNooter is Causing the battery problems?
Anyways each version has it's advantages and disadvantages:
MinimalNooter - If you're willing to use CWM Minimal Nooter is available and is easily one of the most customizable of all the Nooters with different packages ranging from the most basic of roots "Minimal" to a full root package with Gapps XorZone's Mods etc.
Advantages
Clear Instructions, lots of information, can be a little confusing/overwhelming.
More Customizable with multiple packages
Lowest chance of FS corruption due to CWM use
No One Day Market Wait
No extra Apps to fix Market Search
Disadvantages
More steps to get to root through using CWM (Not just pop it in wait and done)
TouchNooter - TouchNooter was the original Nooter for Nook Simple Touch using the original Methods used on it's sibling the Nook Color. It installs a few mods and the basics to make it as customizable as a person needs you can drop apps in or remove them without having any real technical know how.
Advantages
Customizable with most extra apps in /data/app
Lower chance of FS corruption due to new TouchNooter methods
No extra Apps to fix Market Search
Clear Instructions that go step by step through each requirement
Disadvantages
One Day Wait to get Market Working
eded333 said:
The TouchNooter just installs the base system files for Gapps to work, Root, and a launcher, but on the latest version it is trying to address the issues of market not searching (changing the Vending.apk) and the Market not working (the 1 day waiting), and of course is the original automated method, but still, for me, has the problem of modifying system files while the system is loaded.
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The newer versions of TouchNooter don't actually run while the filesystem is loaded, they run before the system is up and kills the system before it's fully loaded. I'll update to CWM here in the near future, I just haven't had the time with school and other things going on in the real world.
TorimuNooter - TorimuNooter isn't the fastest just the newest it conveniently wraps up a CPU App to underclock a device while from the looks of it tossing all the apps it includes with it into /system making it easily the least customizable of the Nooters.
Advantages
Underclocks CPU
Disadvantages
Disorganized unclear instructions in first post
More Apps included with device means more bloat - Installed to /data means less space for apps or books in the long run without uninstall bloat first
Broken Search forcing use of another app to fix it
Unzipped Files for longer download times
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The Newest and fastest nooter is TorimuNooter. TorimuNooter newest update kills the infamous "battry drain" dilemma.
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TorimuNooter isn't anymore efficient battery wise than TouchNooter or MinimalNooter. It just uses an app to underclock the CPU. This method has been noted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20069231&postcount=4 as a way to save battery and it's been noted on multiple devices long before the existence of TorimuNooter. The fact that it contains more apps which will run and no way to uninstall apps that a user may not want installed on their devices makes it less efficient.
There are numerous apps which can all be obtained freely and legally that will all underclock the NST if you take the time to install them and properly configure them:
SetCPU - Free to all XDA Users though $2.99 through market.
AnTuTu CPU Master (Free) - Available Free through the market included in TorimuNooter
That is not true. In the newest version, I moved the apks to /nooter/data/app/, thus making them deletable. I have removed Orweb AND Orbot. And it is more battery efficient! The reason it is more efficient is because of CpuMasterFree!
Torimu.Joji said:
That is not true. In the newest version, I moved the apks to /nooter/data/app/, thus making them deletable. I have removed Orweb AND Orbot. And it is more battery efficient! The reason it is more efficient is because of CpuMasterFree!
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It's been updated now.
At the time of the writing of that post your original post was still showing Orbweb and Orbot as part of the installed apps. There were still multiple complaints in some of the latest posts about being unable to uninstall apps. You were still using SalsichaNooter as a base for work.
Also CPU Master Free doesn't make it more battery efficient if you counter act it with bloat. It most definitely doesn't make it 75% more efficient than all other roots.
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Anyways each version has it's advantages and disadvantages:
TorimuNooter - TorimuNooter isn't the fastest just the newest it conveniently wraps up a CPU App to underclock a device while from the looks of it tossing all the apps it includes with it into /system making it easily the least customizable of the Nooters.
Advantages
Underclocks CPU
Disadvantages
Disorganized unclear instructions in first post
More Apps included with device means more bloat - Installed to /data means less space for apps or books in the long run without uninstall bloat first
Broken Search forcing use of another app to fix it.
TorimuNooter isn't anymore efficient battery wise than TouchNooter or MinimalNooter. It just uses an app to underclock the CPU. This method has been noted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20069231&postcount=4 as a way to save battery and it's been noted on multiple devices long before the existence of TorimuNooter. The fact that it contains more apps which will run and no way to uninstall apps that a user may not want installed on their devices makes it less efficient.
There are numerous apps which can all be obtained freely and legally that will all underclock the NST if you take the time to install them and properly configure them:
SetCPU - Free to all XDA Users though $2.99 through market.
AnTuTu CPU Master (Free) - Available Free through the market included in TorimuNooter
MinimalNooter - If you're willing to use CWM Minimal Nooter is available and is easily one of the most customizable of all the Nooters with different packages ranging from the most basic of roots "Minimal" to a full root package with Gapps XorZone's Mods etc.
Advantages
Clear Instructions, lots of information, can be a little confusing/overwhelming.
More Customizable with multiple packages
Lowest chance of FS corruption due to CWM use
No One Day Market Wait
No extra Apps to fix Market Search
Disadvantages
More steps to get to root through using CWM (Not just pop it in wait and done)
TouchNooter - TouchNooter was the original Nooter for Nook Simple Touch using the original Methods used on it's sibling the Nook Color. It installs a few mods and the basics to make it as customizable as a person needs you can drop apps in or remove them without having any real technical know how.
Advantages
Customizable with most extra apps in /data/app
Lower chance of FS corruption due to new TouchNooter methods
No extra Apps to fix Market Search
Clear Instructions that go step by step through each requirement
Disadvantages
One Day Wait to get Market Working
The newer versions of TouchNooter don't actually run while the filesystem is loaded, they run before the system is up and kills the system before it's fully loaded. I'll update to CWM here in the near future, I just haven't had the time with school and other things going on in the real world.
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Excellent explanation, thanks ^^
I'm a newb to all this, but I didn't and don't want some big package dumped on my Nook.
I just booted an SD with a bootable image (I forget which, the "Rooted Forever" one) and stuck a new uRamdisk in. I ADB installed Button Savior, ADW Launcher, Opera Mobile and K9 email. That's about all I need.
Those of you rooting your TF101, why are you doing it these days? When I had my old GTablet, rooting was a necessity because the stock configuration was just so awful. Plus, the geek in me just loves having control of things. But, to date, I've never felt a need to root my Transformer or flash a custom ROM onto it, as it's always been "good enough," and I didn't feel like breaking OTA was worth it. The only exception might be my desire to change the hardware keyboard layout to Dvorak so I can touch type on it.
But, now that apparently you can root without breaking OTA, and the potential of getting JB a bit early via CM later this summer, I'm thinking about it again. What other advantages are some of you reaping from being rooted these days?
I would say that rooting a stock rom is minimally useful (unless you have the knowledge to do modifications like many on XDA). I would suggest a custom rom like AOKP because:
1.The speed and stability is amazing.
2.You tend to get updates more frequently.
3. Overclocking
4. Titanium Backup
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1. Debloat- dont want to have apps that i dont need or can't uninstall on my device.
2. Titanium backup- being able to back up all of my apps in case something happens or when i flash different roms
3. Adblock
4. Being able to flash AOSP roms if i want a cleaner experience of android with tweaks created from source and being on the latest android version.
5 Overclocking
Updates still available after rooting if you read lizard's thread. It the same as OTA but this update is flashed via CWM. Beside this..
1) Overclocking
2) Titanium Backup
3) Droidwall = firewall
4) RootExplore = freeze unwanted apps
5) CWM = fun and life saver
6) Run Apps that need lucky patcher which required root
I rooted so I could install Debian in a chroot environment. Connect a keyboard and mouse and It's even better.
1) because i can, ive always hacked, root or jailbroken my mobile devices all the way back to rockbox and the old toshiba gigabeat and creative zen vision m.
2) custom firmwares are much better then stock
3) titanium backup
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Since I'm running a (mostly) stock firmware, everything boils down to:
Titanium Backup (both to freeze Asus bloatware and to backup apps that disable the built-in ICS backup system - ie. adb backup - in their manifest)
ClockSync
OpenVPN
NFS (to a lesser extent, I still have to rebuild the kernel and a modified busybox binary with XDR/RPC support)
adblock
freeze CMClient and DMClient
access the crash dropbox in /data to retrieve logs related to ANRs and the like
(yes, I do have CWM as well, but I pushed it via nvflash and then used it to root my device and flash guevor's kernel and the updated nvidia codecs, not the other way around )
So I could change the physical kb layout to Colemak
So I could remove all those awful Asus apps
If I could do both of these things without root, I'd happily stay unrooted.
Cause all the cool kids are doing it.
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kiz said:
So I could change the physical kb layout to Colemak
So I could remove all those awful Asus apps
If I could do both of these things without root, I'd happily stay unrooted.
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How did you go about changing the physical keyboard? Did you manually alter the mapping file, or is there a good tool for it?
Fix Asus problem
I had that bug where my tablet would randomly go into a boot-loop and drain the battery. I would go to use it and the damn thing would be dead... and it happened quite a few times before I broke down and rooted/flashed a new rom. Problem solved.
Overclocking and added features were my main reasons.
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How did you go about changing the physical keyboard? Did you manually alter the mapping file, or is there a good tool for it?
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There are some layout files specifically for the TF dock in /system/usr/xt9/keylayout/ specifically qwerty-en_GB.kl (for UK) or qwerty-en_US.kl (for US) (..etc) that are thankfully plain text files. Just edit them, reboot and enjoy your new layout!
Took a while to work out because I had been editing the layouts in /system/usr/keylayout to no avail.
I'm typing in colemak with it right now, well worth rooting for
titanium backup alone is enough reason to root for me.
Out of reasons already exposed here, I rooted my devices because I can install a firewall which disable on demand wifi/3G/phone access to application. Very useful for applications which have too many ads or too aggressive ads
Titanium Backup... Plus it's fun to tinker with your device.
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The reason why i rooted my tf101 was because i wanted to try some custom roms and kernels. I usually hate it when i get a new device and its bloated up junk apps and settings. I also like that i can tinker with it and try to get maximum performance without sacrificing battery power.
Also i hope a nice Jelly Bean rom comes out for the tf101 so that it can finally have smooth animations and look plain beautiful.
Titanium backup, custom boot animations and PS3 controller pairing without the dock.
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Strictly to overclock. Now Tegra 2 doesn't seem too obsolete, and runs everything I throw at it very well.