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Ye, we're getting a few questions about this, and I just kinda assumed it was possible. But I'm not so sure now, so can it even be done?
ya im wondering this too...although wont be rooting until a stable gingerbread comes out...
Yes it is possible. In the blayo's instructions how to upgrade HBOOT to 1.00, you can find the method, which gives you a root access. I've managed to root my legend,after accidantly updating it to official stock froyo rom
TheGrammarFreak said:
Ye, we're getting a few questions about this, and I just kinda assumed it was possible. But I'm not so sure now, so can it even be done?
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Well I haven't started the rooting process yet, haven't got a goldcard yet, are you sure my steps are going to work._., after reading this my confidence is waived
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=891815
qzem said:
Yes it is possible. In the blayo's instructions how to upgrade HBOOT to 1.00, you can find the method, which gives you a root access. I've managed to root my legend,after accidantly updating it to official stock froyo rom
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You mean to downgrade from 1.01 or to upgrade from 0.43? , what threads did you use to manage this process? , I've got an Hboot version of 1.01, Software version 3.15.707.3 (I think it's different from yours) do you think my requirements might work with your rooting methods as well?;o
Yes you can root HBOOT 1.01 I have done it following blay0's guide. You have to downgrade from froyo then root as usual then flash rooted froyo rom.
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FeaRThiS said:
Yes you can root HBOOT 1.01 I have done it following blay0's guide. You have to downgrade from froyo then root as usual then flash rooted froyo rom.
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What threads did you use to accomplish this ? Would you mind sharing ?._.
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What threads did you use to accomplish this ? Would you mind sharing ?._.
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A guide has now been made and posted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845512
This is the thread, just read the Prerequirements and Rerequirements, then follow the instructions for Already OTA updated with HBOOT 1.00. It is true that this thread gives you instrucions how to upgrade HBOOT and keep root, but with froyo ota installed, you already have upgraded HBOOT, so this instrucions here are just for rooting it.
Good luck
I've done a fair few flashes with my Desire and always found it quite easy to follow and do, but I am so, so, so confused about how to go about attacking the HTC Desire.
Essentially, I want to root it and install a custom ROM (maybe change a radio, that's it). However, there is no set of instructions in any one thread, it's all over the place.
So far, i've managed to permroot my brothers phone using Visionary. Now, the next step is getting Clockwork Recovery. However, there seems to be two version 2.x (installed by ROM manager) and version 3.x. Apparently the former doesn't work for CM7... but I cannot find how to actually get Clockwork 3.x installed (easily...).
What are the most popular DesireHD ROMs and do they all require Clockwork 3.x? Also, what is S-Off... and do I need it!?
Because standard Desire does not have nearly as tight security as DHD has. You need S-OFF to get clockworkmod, and if you want to flash CWM 3.x, you need ENG S-OFF. Only gingerbread roms need CWM 3.x.
S-OFF: Phone security off, internal memory becomes read/write, you can flash anything you want, no version checks etc.
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Because standard Desire does not have nearly as tight security as DHD has. You need S-OFF to get clockworkmod, and if you want to flash CWM 3.x, you need ENG S-OFF. Only gingerbread roms need CWM 3.x.
S-OFF: Phone security off, internal memory becomes read/write, you can flash anything you want, no version checks etc.
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Hmm... OK, I mean this is for my brother who is in no way technically inclined Perhaps we'll just leave it rooted for now and see if an automated tool appears for the Desire HD in the future
Cheers!
It does not get much more automated than my Radio S-OFF Tool / ENG S-OFF Tool..
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It does not get much more automated than my Radio S-OFF Tool / ENG S-OFF Tool..
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I suppose so. So basically, the steps are:
Root phone - Done
S-Off/Eng S-Off
Install Clockwork Mod
Install ROM
The bit I find trouble with is how to do the clockwork mod bit. It seems like CM is the best DHD ROM, but that requires Clockwork Recovery 3.whatever and to get that installed you have to go through a ton of SDK stuff. Is there an easy way to get it installed?
alex98uk said:
Hmm... OK, I mean this is for my brother who is in no way technically inclined Perhaps we'll just leave it rooted for now and see if an automated tool appears for the Desire HD in the future
Cheers!
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Possibly like this one? search is your friend
alex98uk said:
I suppose so. So basically, the steps are:
Root phone - Done
S-Off/Eng S-Off
Install Clockwork Mod
Install ROM
The bit I find trouble with is how to do the clockwork mod bit. It seems like CM is the best DHD ROM, but that requires Clockwork Recovery 3.whatever and to get that installed you have to go through a ton of SDK stuff. Is there an easy way to get it installed?
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If u really need CM7, but doesn't want to install cwm 3, than, try CM7 on my signature..
SAPPH1RE said:
If u really need CM7, but doesn't want to install cwm 3, than, try CM7 on my signature..
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Ah brilliant
You know if it'll work with Clockwork Recovery 2.5.0.7 as that what comes with ROM Manager?
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Ah brilliant
You know if it'll work with Clockwork Recovery 2.5.0.7 as that what comes with ROM Manager?
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Simple answer, no.
Please try following the advice you are being given and search the development forum, if your not willing/able to devote the time to reading up on S-OFF and installing CM7 please leave well alone and save us all a little time
To be honest I think that dhd is quite easy to root. You have one click tool in stickies so really a monkey could do it.
I'm attempting to root my girlfriends galaxy s and it's really complicated. Download this download that check if you have 3button startup, get Odin and so on....
Desire HD is fun to root...
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One Click-tool? For the latest update you have to downgrade,that looks not so easy?
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Yeah, downgrading makes it a bit harder, true. But after downgrading it is a breeze.
Wating for a new tool or updated visionary?
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Visionary will not do it, but I might make a tool to handle all those downgrade commands. I am busy now, however, so you should not wait for it.
magnum73 said:
Wating for a new tool or updated visionary?
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I wouldn't hold your breathe, whilst there is a simple-ish downgrade route the chances of anyone going to the great effort of needlessly finding and exploiting a new security flaw are remote. Anyone desperate for root will probably take the downgrade route and anyone unable to grasp the steps involved would probably be better served by a stock rom
I'm looking forward for an automatic tool to downgrade...Jkoljo
I want to get rid of that irritating bootsound and have a new bootscreen...
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Just use the manual method, I am busy, so it might take a while before I can start developing such tool..
I have time and I am afraid to do something wrong...
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I wonder why HTC don't want us to root...
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I wonder why HTC don't want us to root...
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Tech support, without root access you are unlikely to do anything terminal to your DHD software wise, so that should limit your tech support to hardware issues. With root access ham fisted people are returning phones with user inflicted software problems
HTC has released a OFFICIAL unlock for Legend (amongs other),
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
Better late then never?
Woahh.. Finally..~!! After nearly 2 years of waiting..
Yup.. its true.. better late than never..
Finally.... YES!
This'll give us S-Off to H-boot 1.01?
Also, now is better than ever
if i unlock my htc legend with this will can i directly use rommanager to install CyanogenMod ?
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if i unlock my htc legend with this will can i directly use rommanager to install CyanogenMod ?
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Same question, sorry if its a bit basic, new to this and finally given up on stock 2.2 rom and want to try out something better.
NX3 said:
Same question, sorry if its a bit basic, new to this and finally given up on stock 2.2 rom and want to try out something better.
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Once you've unlocked the Legend download and run the HTC Supertool V3 from your machine, select option 1 then option 3 and you'll be permanently rooted, then you can install rom manager and deploy whatever rom you want.
So, if I vaguely recall correctly,...
This basically means we won't need the gold-card trick anymore.
I use my Legend for app testing, both CM7 and Blayo ROM as a proxy for stock. I avoid real stock ROMs because they tend to be a pain to re-root etc.
So perhaps I can try real stock ROMs and be able to switch back that much easier...
Hi
I have a legend running cm7 with S-on, how can i get S-off now?
Thx
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There's a 5 page thread in the General section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1498298
Looks to me like it's more trouble than it's worth at this time anyway.
smilingguy07 said:
Once you've unlocked the Legend download and run the HTC Supertool V3 from your machine, select option 1 then option 3 and you'll be permanently rooted, then you can install rom manager and deploy whatever rom you want.
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Thanks. I've done the HTCDev part, I'll do Supertool and custom rom at weekend. I can use clockworkmod from market to install a rom or do I have to use a Legend specific version ?
This is to get s-off? I'm on 1.01 Hboot. Using CM 7.1 stable
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nope... just the unlock bootloader... but you can use most of the S-OFF function.
with this you can flash your recovery part of your phone and also have system writes.
psyionx said:
nope... just the unlock bootloader... but you can use most of the S-OFF function.
with this you can flash your recovery part of your phone and also have system writes.
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Can i install/change system fonts ?
Well, we don't know that as of yet (that's still a big mistery to us) but I can assure you that one who would find that out would most certainly be elected as president of the Internetz.
Have done HTC dev part and now with hboot 1.02. So next step should be to use super tool?
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Yes, option 1 and 3, gets you root.
I tried the steps mentioned in wiki using super htc tool 3 and then using ROM manager. I was happy that it's almost done but got stuck with red triangle and exclamatory Mark when tried flashing cm7. What next ?!
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If i used it ... Can I use HTC Legend RUU to restore ?
and.. if i use it ... than i can change everthings with my Legend without use cmd instruction ~~? ex: change font。
Hi every one I just came by with this website unlockroot.com they have a software that can unlock & root your device. They support HTC Glacier 2.3 but Not MT4g is it any good.
zaky1 said:
Hi every one I just came by with this website unlockroot.com they have a software that can unlock & root your device. They support HTC Glacier 2.3 but Not MT4g is it any good.
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The HTC Glacier is the MyTouch4G.
However i'd advise against root your device.
so the tool from that website suppose ably roots gingerbread huh. Gotta see this...
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coupetastic-droid said:
so the tool from that website suppose ably roots gingerbread huh. Gotta see this...
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It might Root the phone, but it i will not turn s-off.
from their web-site
4. Q: Does rooting do any of the following? 1. Wipe the data? 2. Unlock the bootloader? 3. Change the recovery ?
A: You have to unlock the bootloader before rooting. It won't wipe the data or change the recovery.
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6. Q: Is rooting confirmed on HTC? I got the latest HTC update and it's 2.3.3, not 2.3.7, and rooting is unsuccessful. Will I need custom rom?
A: Make sure your HTC is in S-off state. If rooting fails in S-off state, it's caused by different firmware Version.
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Another reason why this person needs to refrain from rooting their device. It's very clear to me that either this person has 1) done absolutely no research prior to wanting to root their device. They'd know that rooting alone will not do what they want it to do 2) it's a spammer promoting their site 3) afraid of ADB and doing it the proper way.
When I posted that web site all, I was trying to help the People who has trouble downgrading through ADB by turn S-Off with adb then root your phone
zaky1 said:
Hi every one I just came by with this website unlockroot.com they have a software that can unlock & root your device. They support HTC Glacier 2.3 but Not MT4g is it any good.
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When I posted that web site all, I was trying to help the People who has trouble downgrading through ADB by turn S-Off with adb then root your phone
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Your first post was posted as a question. It wasn't posted as information to the newbs. It was also posted in the Q&A section, as a question.
Please don't lie to us.
Hi, I've been trying to fully S-OFF my buddy's new MyTouch 4G Glacier that he ordered online. It has Android 2.3.4 and I was able to unlock bootloader and put clockworkmod touch recovery. But he wants a Rom and custom kernel. Flashing kernels won't work via fastboot or they do, but don't actually apply. I wanted to just fully Perm-S-OFF it with the guide in Dev thread, but the link to Visionary+ apk isn't working. I've searched n searched on XDA and Google. All links I find are either BS malware or 404'd lol. Does anyone have a copy of it I could get? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. -Drew
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Google "modaco visionary". If you want I'll PM you a link to their site since I'm not allowed to post it yet (noob rule). I'm sure you'll find it though. Good luck!
[Edit] BTW, your antivirus isn't going to like visionary, but it's a good download. It's the one I used.
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upncoming said:
Google "modaco visionary". If you want I'll PM you a link to their site since I'm not allowed to post it yet (noob rule). I'm sure you'll find it though. Good luck!
[Edit] BTW, your antivirus isn't going to like visionary, but it's a good download. It's the one I used.
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I actually went to his main link on his website/forum. But when you put in captcha, it just goes to broken link on his site. So he either took it down or moved it and hasn't changed link.. so yeh if u got latest r14 of it, I'd appreciate a link in my PM. Thanks for replying too!
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Whoops! That's ok. I've got another link to a different part of the modaco site. I tested and was able to download. I'll PM you in a minute.
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If you are on gingerbread 2.3.4 you will have to downgrade the software before acquiring root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462025
Once you do the downgrade you shouldn't have any problems
Cheers
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romuloxiii said:
If you are on gingerbread 2.3.4 you will have to downgrade the software before acquiring root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462025
Once you do the downgrade you shouldn't have any problems
Cheers
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I've actually already acquired root. Just need perm S-OFF. Guess I tech don't need temp-root with that visionary app, if I already have full root on 2.3.4, is it possible to run that PermS-OFF patch that is in Dev section? Or does it still need to be ran on Froyo ROM? Can flash ROM's
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Sorry, i guess i misunderstood. Im not sure about whether you need to be on Froyo to achieve s-off with visionary. it's worth a shot....cheers
It just occurred to me that i think i used the gfree method when i got s-off on my phone. You may want to consider trying that method if visionary won't work for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
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This is how bricks happen!
Ill wait for the I bricked by friends phone thread u will create later on.
Why can't you flash as is? Did you unlock the boot loader via HTC dev unlock? If so, you will need to relock it, then find the guides to downgrade to froyo, and then root from there...
Well my intention is not to give bad advice but rather state what worked for me. If this method can lead to a bricked device then i appologise for the bad info.
Cheers
Sent from my HTC Glacier
Such a lot of mess...
A phone unlocked with HTCDev should receive custom kernels, if it doesn't - it means the kernels aren't being flashed correctly and OP should learn to use fastboot.
A phone unlocked with HTCDev won't get downgraded unless relocked.
Without downgrading there won't be S-OFF of any kind. Neither gfree nor root.sh work on Gingerbread.
Rooting isn't S-OFF.
Putting custom ROM on isn't rooting.
To flash anything from recovery only, without using fastboot, S-OFF is required.
Jack_R1 said:
Such a lot of mess...
A phone unlocked with HTCDev should receive custom kernels, if it doesn't - it means the kernels aren't being flashed correctly and OP should learn to use fastboot.
A phone unlocked with HTCDev won't get downgraded unless relocked.
Without downgrading there won't be S-OFF of any kind. Neither gfree nor root.sh work on Gingerbread.
Rooting isn't S-OFF.
Putting custom ROM on isn't rooting.
To flash anything from recovery only, without using fastboot, S-OFF is required.
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thanks for the summery. very useful.
Jack_R1 said:
Such a lot of mess...
A phone unlocked with HTCDev should receive custom kernels, if it doesn't - it means the kernels aren't being flashed correctly and OP should learn to use fastboot.
A phone unlocked with HTCDev won't get downgraded unless relocked.
Without downgrading there won't be S-OFF of any kind. Neither gfree nor root.sh work on Gingerbread.
Rooting isn't S-OFF.
Putting custom ROM on isn't rooting.
To flash anything from recovery only, without using fastboot, S-OFF is required.
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I have achieved S-OFF a long time back and updated my ROM. I needed to use the terminal emulator the other day in super user mode but was denied SU access. Remembering back I had used visionary to obtain root and thus su access. Visionary no longer runs (it appears to lock up in a black screen) nor am I able su access.
How can one obtain su access after s-off has been achieved and the phone has downloaded an update?
su reports the su binary is out of date.
Thank you.
Update the su
binaries
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Update the su
binaries
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Been looking for a method to do that for 4 hours. Any ideas where to look?
A thread called "Root for S-OFF users" in Development section would probably be a very good start (and hopefully finish).
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A thread called "Root for S-OFF users" in Development section would probably be a very good start (and hopefully finish).
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It was a start, but not a finish and since it was in the development section, I was not allowed to respond to it.
For completeness after a dozen or so further hours of searching, this tool rooted my S-off phone.
w w w.androidauthority<dot>com/root-any-htc-phone-tablet-117724
(appears I am not allowed to post proper links either.)