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[Q] Overclocking

i recently rooted my wildfire and have installed cyanogenmod 7.0.3 and wanted to double check something, ive been looking around threads and these overclocking guides and i saw that one of them said you only need a kernel with the ability to overclock if you are on stock rom, otherwise you can install setcpu straight away and overclock, could someone please just clarify this, thanks

Cm7 has overclock built in so no need for additional kernal or setcpu app
Go to Settings > Cyanogenmod settings > performance > CPU settings
It's basically setcpu built in
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Eddster3000 said:
Cm7 has overclock built in so no need for additional kernal or setcpu app
Go to Settings > Cyanogenmod settings > performance > CPU settings
It's basically setcpu built in
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thanks, i gave it a go but every time i boot it always restores itself to 528, how can i set it to stick at a certain speed? thanks

deezykhara said:
thanks, i gave it a go but every time i boot it always restores itself to 528, how can i set it to stick at a certain speed? thanks
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There is a check box that says something like " set at boot" tick this and it will retain your settings
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Also Smartass Governor is very good. Its interactive so manages CPU when required or when your handset is idle
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Eddster3000 said:
Also Smartass Governor is very good. Its interactive so manages CPU when required or when your handset is idle
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so does this mean it wont affect battery too much as it will automatically reduce the speed and increase it when required, also what speeds would you recommend for min and max?

deezykhara said:
so does this mean it wont affect battery too much as it will automatically reduce the speed and increase it when required, also what speeds would you recommend for min and max?
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Yeah, as far as I know it caps min setting to 352 when idle/sleep even if you have yours min set higher than that. It then uses required CPU up to your Max depending on what processes are taking place.
Overclocking will effect battery life if you push it to far. I currently have mine set at 352/691 and it works for me giving speed and battery life.
Experiment your own tho
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thanks again for all your help

Terrible quadrant?

I went and did a quadrant test and scored worse than the normal evo, and I'm rooted and running cyanogenmod 7. I got 956 average on 3 tests. PS, performance 1075 on Setcpu

and?
quadrant means nothing
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Run smartass at 1190.
Also which kernel?

Does Setcpu have a smartass setting? And the stock cyanogenmod 7 kernel.
Evo 4G
Cyanogenmod 7

Blameme said:
Does Setcpu have a smartass setting? And the stock cyanogenmod 7 kernel.
Evo 4G
Cyanogenmod 7
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Use tiamat or savanged
Also why use setcpu with the performance settings in cm7?

The best way to improve your Quadrant score is to uninstall Quadrant and stop worrying about it....

Ok. But where's the smartass setting?
Evo 4G
Cyanogenmod 7

Blameme said:
Ok. But where's the smartass setting?
Evo 4G
Cyanogenmod 7
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Performance settings > CPU settings > governors

I don't have that. Conservative, interactive, performance, userspace, powersave, and ondemand.
Evo 4G
Cyanogenmod 7

Blameme said:
I don't have that. Conservative, interactive, performance, userspace, powersave, and ondemand.
Evo 4G
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Yeah you need to run a different kernel like I said.

Alright, I downloaded tiamat. Whats a good setup for those settings then?
Evo 4G
Cyanogenmod 7

Blameme said:
Alright, I downloaded tiamat. Whats a good setup for those settings then?
Evo 4G
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Smartass and 1190 I find is best balance for battery life and performance.

QUADRANT IS NOT A GOOD BENCHMARKING TOOL.
Check out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE0hDwfzFOk&feature=player_embedded#at=322
Quit using Quadrant it is easily duped. Your scores can be increased easily in quadrant. You might even be able to follow the video and get better scores, so that way it will make you feel better.

Why is everyone so offended by the fact that this guy just wants answers on how to improve his benchmark?
Who cares if you find no value in it, he does.
Answer his questions and move on or ignore the thread.

I'm first going to reiterate what everyone else has said... don't worry about Quadrant, or benchmarks or any of that.
with that out of the way, the absolute best I've ever achieved is when I first got my phone and was pushing for high Quadrant numbers, and I was on an AOSP Rom and installed CM Turbo Kernel, like... 6. something, and I turned the "Turbo" feature on. got like 1850 after a few attempts. that's the absolute best, and it wasn't stable. was running 1190, on Hardware 002, which my phone did NOT like. I get about 900 now and I'm happy because my phone is usable for a full day!

mattykinsx said:
Yeah you need to run a different kernel like I said.
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Running a different kernel isn't the issue. Having the min clockspeed set low and running a benchmark that doesn't tax the phone enough for it to ramp up the clockspeed is the issue. Set the min and Max to 998 or more then run the benchmark.
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Rem3Dy said:
Running a different kernel isn't the issue. Having the min clockspeed set low and running a benchmark that doesn't tax the phone enough for it to ramp up the clockspeed is the issue. Set the min and Max to 998 or more then run the benchmark.
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Not what I was referring to.
He asked why he didn't have the "smartass" governor available.

[Q] Overclocking guide for above 1.2 Ghz

Is there one or as simple trial and error kind of thing?
Thanks
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SillyRice said:
Is there one or as simple trial and error kind of thing?
Thanks
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Just trial and error. I would start at 1.2ghz on stepping 5 and increase by 50mhz being sure to thoroughly test each clock rate.
Do NOT use the set on boot option until you are sure it is stable.

dalingrin said:
Just trial and error. I would start at 1.2ghz on stepping 5 and increase by 50mhz being sure to thoroughly test each clock rate.
Do NOT use the set on boot option until you are sure it is stable.
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I ended up testing/benchmarking in 25mhz increments. I know it was a bit more time consuming, but I found that my NC could handle 1275 while using multimedia intensive apps, but a friend could get his up to 1325 running benchmarks and not rebooting.
I think we got in one or two runs at 1350, but it definitely wasn't stable. Broke 4200 in quadrant, for whatever that's worth.

I have it set at 1300 and performance and get 2582 how do you get 4200?
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meber said:
I have it set at 1300 and performance and get 2582 how do you get 4200?
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This was a fresh install with no other background tasks running. All we did was get the CM7 ROM loaded, OC Kernel and gapps.
I'll get some screenshots of his quad scores when he gets back from helping a buddy move. I think we took screenshots of everything 1250+. I might try getting a full reload working and see if I can break that barrier.

I'm running 1325 and the best score I can get is high 3100s.

Can you guys tell me what settings you have under performance menu?
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I got similar scores to them and I used the default settings In performance... I think its a matrer of what you have installed and your device. Also don't worry about quadrant scores they are not that important. If your nook runs smooth what does it matter?
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Each machine will have to be trial and error. Different device..even same hardware are really all different to one degree or another....example...I have 2 nooks..both running the same version of cm..and kernel...my second one never gets past 3200 on quadrant...go figure...same exact software running on both.

I did this test with benchmarks back to back on higher cpu frequencies, and i ended up with 1325 being the highest stable i could go. Very low 3000's for benchmarks in quadrent which dont mean anything of course, but there ya go. Runs like a champ.

Sorry for the ignorant reply...but what will overclocking actually do? I have a NC with a dual boot CM7 SDcard. Didn't do it, bought it from Jonathan on Ebay, works great!

V14 kernel

I started this thread because i want to be able to use Sparksco kernel v14 but it freezes when its set to 1.0GHZ I been running v10 as my daily kernel and its bottomline on my top list of kernels. Any help will be much appreciated, im on the latest nightly CM255, i had to revert back to v10 because i need speed to check emails and surf the internet...If theres another update for the V14 in the future i hope that can be a fix or its probably my setup that prevents me from reaching any higher speeds, overall Sparksco you the man!!! By the way ICS devs yall get mad props peace...

I use sparks v14 kernel on cm nightly 255 clocked right under 1ghz using smartass governer no problem. I did a full wipe of everything, and formatted system before install of everything of course. Edit: I clocked it to 2ghz and no freezes here. Did you do a full wipe before the install of the ROM/kernel?
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Hey sparksco, luv your kernels, can we get smartass2 included?
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Wrong forum buddy. This is a development section.
This belongs in Q&A
Just for future reference.

notsointeresting said:
Wrong forum buddy. This is a development section.
This belongs in Q&A
Just for future reference.
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I'm notsointeresting in hearing what u got to say but I get the point XDA supervisor...

peanjr said:
I use sparks v14 kernel on cm nightly 255 clocked right under 1ghz using smartass governer no problem. I did a full wipe of everything, and formatted system before install of everything of course. Edit: I clocked it to 2ghz and no freezes here. Did you do a full wipe before the install of the ROM/kernel?
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I'm going to have to give that a shot homie...

Kernel v14 is more geared for battery saving. I haven't updated the voltages yet because I'm not compiling gingerbread anymore, rather been working on getting a stable ICS rom build before I do more work on it. As soon as we get ICS gingerbread will be a thing of the past. Kernel v14 works good for some and v10 for others. I like v14 because of the battery I've been able to get on 122mhz min and 998mhz max. But if you up the min to the next highest setting (230mhz) you shouldn't get any lockups. Or even try 307mhz.
Edit: looks like 307mhz min is the only clock speed that allows me to overclock to 2ghz and not have any lockups. I'm also on cm nightly 255 pzguzman, and I always keep it on smartass governor.
P.S. The mods should be able to move this thread no problem without removing the comments or thread.
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Yeah, forgot to mention as sparks said, at 2ghz the min is at 307mhz.
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sparksco said:
Kernel v14 is more geared for battery saving. I haven't updated the voltages yet because I'm not compiling gingerbread anymore, rather been working on getting a stable ICS rom build before I do more work on it. As soon as we get ICS gingerbread will be a thing of the past. Kernel v14 works good for some and v10 for others. I like v14 because of the battery I've been able to get on 122mhz min and 998mhz max. But if you up the min to the next highest setting (230mhz) you shouldn't get any lockups. Or even try 307mhz.
Edit: looks like 307mhz min is the only clock speed that allows me to overclock to 2ghz and not have any lockups. I'm also on cm nightly 255 pzguzman, and I always keep it on smartass governor.
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Oh okay i see Sparksco thanks for clarifying the setup, i dont mean to steer anybody in the wrong direction especially from working on a ICS BUILD which is the most highly anticipated OS for android. But im going to flash v14 and try out the setting and will get back and let you know thanx homie...

No luck but its amazing how you guys achieve the speeds... Tried the settings but my phone cant handle the pressure lol...Im gonna stick with this kernel tho... My bad for posting this thread in the wrong section its a rookie mistake...

peanjr said:
Yeah, forgot to mention as sparks said, at 2ghz the min is at 307mhz.
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It worked i only needed to do a full wipe, thanx homie...

By the way Sparksco i got your setup on my rom, fully functional overclocked at the max with no feezes, thanx homie...

YOU'RE USING THE WRONG GOVERNOR MIN/MAX SETTINGS
For example:
IF I want to get 2ghz out of my phone I use the performance governor and use min/max of 2ghz.
OR:
I would use:
Gov: Smartass
Min CPU: 300mhz
Max CPU: 1.5ghz
You would freeze too if you were a CPU constantly going from 100mhz to 2000mhz all the time!

prguzman1978 said:
By the way Sparksco i got your setup on my my rom, fully functional overclocked at the max with no feezes, thanx homie...
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Glad you got it working.
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jefftet said:
Hey sparksco, luv your kernels, can we get smartass2 included?
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Smartass2 was made for the HTC Sensation which is a dual core gsm phone much like the Evo 3D (but cdma instead). I could never get it to clock passed 1.4ghz so I don't think it likes our phones much. It's a great concept but the normal old smartass still works much better for the shift.
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FWIW I am hitting 2.0Ghz with no lockups or anything. I previously had been using ScaryStable for a while and anything past 1.6Ghz would lock right up nearly immediately.

danibri82 said:
FWIW I am hitting 2.0Ghz with no lockups or anything. I previously had been using ScaryStable for a while and anything past 1.6Ghz would lock right up nearly immediately.
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Again, it depends on the governor and the min cpu. I ran scary stable at 1.9ghz for 24 hours+ straight, no lockups.

for the heck of it I ran it @ the min of like 1something hz for the low and 2.0 max just to see how it ran, and it was solid.

danibri82 said:
for the heck of it I ran it @ the min of like 1something hz for the low and 2.0 max just to see how it ran, and it was solid.
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I understand but say you ran scary at min 100mhz and max 1.9ghz with a gov of ondemand, that would freeze for sure on any phone.

VICODAN said:
I understand but say you ran scary at min 100mhz and max 1.9ghz with a gov of ondemand, that would freeze for sure on any phone.
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I think what he's saying is that he ran this kernel (pershoot v14) with a low min and a high max and it ran fine.
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[DISCUSSION] Best Xperia Play SetCPU

Thanks for your feedback!, Ive found the best setup!

Higher my friend.
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JunDavis said:
Higher my friend.
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Herro there
So what set cpu setup u rocking?

Lagfree
Min - 230 or whatever
Max 1612
Usually on 1612
IO - Sio
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JunDavis said:
Lagfree
Min - 230 or whatever
Max 1612
Usually on 1612
IO - Sio
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Thanks man, ill try your set up out after my xplay has charged and will post results later of how smooth it is with mc4 and some other games like rr3

JunDavis said:
Lagfree
Min - 230 or whatever
Max 1612
Usually on 1612
IO - Sio
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I tried out your Set CPU setup and it was kind of bad, because of the lagfree governor,i did some research and i found a thread explaing all governors and lagfree doesn't actually make your phone "Lag free" it saves battery by throttling it down to the minimum clock speed for a simple task but when it needs more juice it will throttle higher providing more performance, but it doesn't work well as i have had regular force closes with apps like FlipBoard, Falcon Pro and messaging (which force closed alot)
Thanks anyways for contributing

Pizza_Dox said:
I tried out your Set CPU setup and it was kind of bad, because of the lagfree governor,i did some research and i found a thread explaing all governors and lagfree doesn't actually make your phone "Lag free" it saves battery by throttling it down to the minimum clock speed for a simple task but when it needs more juice it will throttle higher providing more performance, but it doesn't work well as i have had regular force closes with apps like FlipBoard, Falcon Pro and messaging (which force closed alot)
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I didnt use the lagfree governor is said its lagfree.
The governor i used was Darkside. From the new lupus stock GB/ICS kernel.

JunDavis said:
I didnt use the lagfree governor is said its lagfree.
The governor i used was Darkside. From the new lupus stock GB/ICS kernel.
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Sorry man for the mistake
I will try to read better next time,
I am currently using Doom Kernel so i don't have the darkside governor.
I will try the lupus Kernel maby tomorrow as i need my phone for social purposes right now,

OMG!!!
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I didnt use the lagfree governor is said its lagfree.
The governor i used was Darkside. From the new lupus stock GB/ICS kernel.
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Awesome stuff man.
I decided to install Lupus Kernel (720p) and I failed so many times because ADB wasn't detecting my phone in fastboot and reason is because i use a mini usb hub (it connects into 1 hub and makes 5 hubs) so adb and fastboot dident have direct conntact with my phone and today i had a strange feeling and pluged it in to main usb port on my pc and it worked like a charm,i flashed lupus and i am enjoying it.
I think it is considerably faster that Doomkernel and smoother AND reliable,i used to get random force closes every now and then but now its super smooth and Touch screen response seems to be 100x better,
I also tried out your setup and shadowgun,Dead trigger(ULTRA GFX setting) and MC4 runs smooth at around 50 FPS

Glad I could help!
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Lupus ICS+GB Or Just Normal GB
Im Currently seeing what i can get the most speed out of what is better and does zram help with gaming

I don't think zRam helps with gaming that much,u might get 1-2 FPS boost
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I don't think zRam helps with gaming that much,u might get 1-2 FPS boost
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Yes, it is true