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I know this has been discussed multiple times and we ended the discussion by suggesting to use Mobile AP (WiFi Tether).
However, I defer from the above workaround which works great for me as well due to:
1. Using WiFi Tether unnecessarily increases the phone and battery temperature and can reduce the phone's life
2. I still end up connecting the phone through USB to keep it charging while consuming a lot of energy while doing WiFi Tether. If that is so, I would rather switch off Mobile AP and WiFi on my Laptop and use USB tether instead. Consumes much less power and reduces the network latency and could be faster than Mobile AP
3. Froyo builds usually allow upto 5 WiFi clients to be connected to the phone sharing the 3G connection (which is much better in my location than any other broadband format including ADSL!). Using USB tether on one workstation (like my desktop) I could share it on upto 7 devices (including phone and my desktop)
4. As an ambitious campaigner, I may want to use WiFi on my phone for one purpose, probably for using DLNA and 3G to tether internet connection on a PC! This may not be possible if I use Mobile AP as it will use the WiFi radio.
If this feature is "OFFICIALLY" provided by Samsung on their "released" builds, why is it so unstable??? I would rather like to get this working rather than we looking for a workaround like using Mobile AP which is best used when really needed.
I would like to use this phone sometimes 24x7 downloading huge stuffs and it will waste the phone if I only rely on Mobile AP keeping the phone HOT all the time.
I have observed the following while doing USB Tether:
a) Problem exist on all test and released 2.x firmwares including the latest Froyo JPK.
b) Indications are same when using "PC Internet" option which creates a "hidden" network connection with the PC when USB connected with the phone and "USB Tethering" box under "Tethering" option in "Settings" Page.
c) While the phone shows that it is tethering normally, somehow the PC "FREEZES" the "TCP/IP" Stack as pinging its own IP FREEZES the ping command. All the network monitoring applications also freeze during this time. This is a very strange behavior I observed during the initial days of Windows 9x when you had to restart the TCP/IP stack.
Infact this issue looks very unique as even in Windows 9x, I never saw the Network apps freezing like this. Resetting the connection fixes the problem and it cycles the same way after that.
I have tested this behavior on 3 workstations:
A] My Official Laptop running Windows XP SP3 with all recent updates and Norton Internet Security Corporate Edition (firewall gives access to the network)
B] My Home Laptop running Windows 7 Professional with latest updates and Kaspersky Internet Security 201x (recently updated 2010 to 2011 - firewall gives access to the network)
C] My Home Desktop dual booting Windows 7 Ultimate AND XP SP3 with latest updates and Kaspersky Internet Security 201x (recently updated 2010 to 2011 - firewall gives access to the network)
All the above workstations have the same issue pointing the issue to be on the phone hardware or software or USB cable (tried 3 MicroUSB cables including the official provided by Samsung).
I have been troubleshooting this issue in the last 3 months, could not identify other issue than seeing the workstation freezing the network activities quite strangely as suggested above. Any help by my fellow SGS users, developers, moderators will be highly appreciated.
Thanks for your participation, lets team up and contact Samsung to resolve this issue if it bothers many people like me.
EDIT: I would try to keep this post updated with usable comments/suggestions/workaround as we discuss
Bump.. Appreciate your help.
Seems noone's using this feature which is VERY important to me. Can anyone help or should I contact Samsung to get this BUG fixed which exists on every firmware I have tried till date.
No tethering problems here. Maybe your device is just faulty?
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Hi,
i've searched all the internet for resolution for that and nothing.
Weird thing is that connection was working good on 2.1 and also on 2.2 and then stopped working just like that (1-10 minutes of connection and then dc for like 5-30 seconds)
Tried almost all apps on market which didn't help me. Now i am trying PDAnet which is working well for about 40 minutes now. I had some troubles installing it but finally did it with USB drivers delivered with PC program of PDAnet. Wifi 5mb/s download speed and just slight ping increase but i am far away from AP so that's the problem i think.
However if someone know if it's system problem (running win7 prof. sp1) or any 3rd party software it will be nice to get working again on standard tethering provided on i9000 as it doesnt require any 3rd party software on PC to get it working.
If dc's again come i'll post info.
kstepyra said:
Hi,
i've searched all the internet for resolution for that and nothing.
Weird thing is that connection was working good on 2.1 and also on 2.2 and then stopped working just like that (1-10 minutes of connection and then dc for like 5-30 seconds)
Tried almost all apps on market which didn't help me. Now i am trying PDAnet which is working well for about 40 minutes now. I had some troubles installing it but finally did it with USB drivers delivered with PC program of PDAnet. Wifi 5mb/s download speed and just slight ping increase but i am far away from AP so that's the problem i think.
However if someone know if it's system problem (running win7 prof. sp1) or any 3rd party software it will be nice to get working again on standard tethering provided on i9000 as it doesnt require any 3rd party software on PC to get it working.
If dc's again come i'll post info.
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I'm assuming that all your PC drivers are uptodate? According to me, it's a PC issue more than a phone one (check your PC logs & Firewall logs)
I have turned everything off (firewall, antiviruses etc.) and no changes. PDAnet is working well and as i saw it's .800 version of the usb driver, but new KIES installs .2000 one. Had problems with .2000 as PDAnet says i don't have usb drivers installed Uninstalled KIES one and installed .800, then PDAnet installed well. However - this program was only one solution to work. I have to try normal tethering on XP and clean win7 on laptop soon as i get it on hands.
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Getting constant cutouts with USB tethering on Samung Galaxy S i9000T running Froyo 2.2.1 Darkys Rom 9.5
Wondering if maybe getting a Dock will fix it?
Problem here too.
I am having the very same problem too. USB tethering works fine (faster than Wireless tethering) in the first few minutes, then drops the connection, and usually I have to restart my phone.
The reason I would use USB is that for online gaming Wireless tethering is too laggy in some cases. I would really appreciate a solution here.
I am using JPU modem on Froyo 2.2.1 btw.
Nothing has been solved about this sissue?
My Phone warranty is going to expire in about a month now. I am not going to keep this phone unless Samsung resolves this issue! Seems most of us are unaware of this issue and suggest they don't have the problem
I have been using smartphones since the first one, and never faced such issue. Using USB tether reduces latency significantly and also do not need to use Wifi on both phone and my laptop.
Some of us feel its a PC issue. How come connecting it to 4 of my PCs at home have exactly the same issue? They also have different OS and Firewall/AV.
On top of that, all the GB based ROMs have strange battery discharging issue after full charge and is killing my battery unnecessarily:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134741
I have escalated these issues to Samsung yesterday. They are affecting me most as these are the primary use of this phone.
I don't have this problems, just give CM7 a try.
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Try any 2.3.4 Custom ROM, it works just fine.
Worked with it yesterday all day.
It still gets hot when using the 3G/Wifi connection, but with usb tether it rocks !
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Try any 2.3.4 Custom ROM, it works just fine.
Worked with it yesterday all day.
It still gets hot when using the 3G/Wifi connection, but with usb tether it rocks !
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I haven't tested 2.3.4 images for USB tethering much, however what troubles me most is ANY GB ROM start draining battery after full charge which is currently bothering me most as its killing my battery and phone unnecessarily while randomly making my phone go dead anytime even when USB/charger connected all the time (after going dead, restarts in battery charging mode as USB connection gets refreshed)
On my (and i guess others) Rom i get a least 24 / 48 hours. But it really depends on what you do with it during the day. I have not experienced any batterydrain on my custom rom. Ever.....
send from another galaxy !
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On my (and i guess others) Rom i get a least 24 / 48 hours. But it really depends on what you do with it during the day. I have not experienced any batterydrain on my custom rom. Ever.....
send from another galaxy !
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I ALSO get the same usage time AFTER DISCONNECTING the charger and using the phone normally.
However, my phone is used primarily for WIFI Tether of 3G connection and hence has to be plugged through the day most of the time when doing tethering. After full charge, my battery drains heavily as the charger is disconnected on GB (instead of disconnecting the battery after full charge) and hence killing the life of my battery through such abuse.
still experiencing this
just an unstable connection
works then every 5/10 minutes it'll stop working and pages will take a while to load then it just starts working again
it's like bursts of connectivity
currently on 2.3.3
can anyone confirm 2.3.4 fixes it after being on 2.3.3?
I'm using a JVR ROM (2.3.4) and have the same problems with USB tethering.
It's rather annoying; i've searched around and it seems to be widespread, I'm not sure if it happens to everybody though.
This is what I've noticed:
- The USB tethering stops working usually at the same time that my Win 7 laptop says that the device could be using USB 2.0 instead for faster speed. At that point, the phone disables USB tethering
- Re-enabling USB tethering on the phone settings makes it work for a minute or so, until the same thing happens
- It does not matter if the phone is on USB debug on/off (i've tried both), or whether it is set to use Kies, Mass storage, or media player under the USB connection menu
I'm trying to find a different USB driver, just to try if it solves anything. But have not been able to find a proper one.
It would help if someone on a 2.3.4 Rom could confirm that USB tethering works for them. At least we could then know whether it is solvable (via configuration, settings, etc.) or not at all until Samsung releases a fix.
I'm having this issue with the Samsung Captivate I897 running Froyo 2.2 through At&T, rooted. I realize that its not the same device this thread's meant for but possibly a related issue? I've been trying to find a solution to this for a few months now... I randomly get disconnected from the internet while using the USB Tethering. I'm forced to re-connect through the phone every 20 minutes or so... I've tried using alternate applications to tether and to use the Mobile AP... With all the apps I run into the same unstable connection as well as with the Mobile AP. This is rather frustating and the last time I spoke with Samsung, I was informed that they no longer "support" usb tethering. I'm at a loss as to what to do, if anyone has any insight this would be greatly appreciated...hopeully even though this is a different device, there's a relation somehow??
Same issue here
I am on DLev's 4.2 Rom. KG3 Modem. I9000 Reoriented Kernel vG_2.1
I just flashed to this ROM and modem version after experiencing the same issues with Darky's XXJVR R3.2.(All stock as provided by the Dev.)
It seems intermittent at this point. I verified that the Mobile AP works great (as of last night). The USB tethering disconnects after a few minutes or seconds and the USB tethering option becomes "unchecked" on the phone itself. Windows 7 Complains about the speed of the USB port and I have swapped to a few different ones, but the same thing happens. Although I am typing this and it has been connected for 20 minutes or so with no issues.
I have also disabled any firewalls or Antivirus to make sure that wasn't the cause. Same issue. I am on Windows 7 x64 (SP1). I am starting to wonder if this a Windows Update that could have caused the issue.
Anyway, just to give more info to the subject.
Ok.. here is something I stumbled across that may have solved this. Appears to be a Windows 7 setting. I have a Captivate but I am running an i9000 Rom, so this might work and might not.
Open Control Panel-->System And Security-->Power Options-->Edit Plan Settings-->"Change Advanced Power Settings". Then navigate to the "USB Settings" and expand "USB selective suspend settings". If the value here is set to "Enabled", click on it and select "Disabled". Click "apply" and then Click "ok".
I pieced this together due to other people having issues with NIC drivers and Windows 7. They were able to get past it with settings on the card drivers under device manager and telling the driver not to do any power management on the card. The drivers for my device has no settings for this, so it is a possible workaround. I am waiting to see what happens. Can someone else give it a try as well?
Is it possible to get a phone (samsung galaxy ace) and the transformer properly paired and connected via BT without rooting either of them?
Because I do not want to have to root as I dont think I know enough about Android to be able to do this confidently and not brick either device.
Thank you for any help.
I did search for this but hope I havent overlooked a possible answer.
you should have no problem pairing the two of them for simple things such as transferring files. Unless you have the option for tethering on your phone available, I doubt you will be able to tether via bluetooth and use the internet without being rooted.
PDANet
Allows you to tether via blutooth, just be carefull with your permissions when disconecting.
Just use the hotspot app
Good morning,
I have been following this forum quite a bit, and even before getting myself a Transformer, I was quite annoyed by this tethering thing. Of course, when I got mine, this was the first thing that I've tried, even before upgrading to Honeycomb 3.1. So, the Wi-Fi hotspot on my HTC Desire combined with TF works flawlessly. I do not understand why you guys are having problems with.
I did root my Desire to get some applications which need root (Titanium backup), but nothing else to enable the Hotspot.
Everything which I'm using is stock Android and everything works without problems.
And a side-note, the TF simply works as expected and as advertised, no problems whatsoever
HTC Desire on Froyo
Asus TF on Honeycomb 3.1
Orange mobile in Luxembourg
Have iPhone and can Bluetooth tether with it.
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Today there was a new KIES update and it seems that there will be a wireless connection to it... but how?
i think the touchwiz update will have the capabilities for the wireless Kies... did you get the touchwize update? where did you get this Kies update?
What software do you use on windows to connect to kies?
For the first time I was able to connect with Kies. USB connection never worked. I am able now to sync contacts and memo and calendar.
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I installed Kies 2.0 on a Windows 7 machine and was able to connect via wifi after the TW update, but the version of Kies they currently have for the Mac does not work. Just for some fun, I contacted Samsung chat support and the Rep told me that Kies isn't even made for Windows! And that "kies wifi" just means you can connect via a USB cable while your on a wifi network! That's some top notch support.
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teardropcity said:
the Rep told me that Kies isn't even made for Windows! And that "kies wifi" just means you can connect via a USB cable while your on a wifi network! That's some top notch support.
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WOW LOL
Just for the yet-to-be-informed, you have to have the latest Kies installed on your PC and the TouchWiz update on your Samsung tablet. Run Kies on the PC. Then go into settings/Wireless and Networks/Kies via Wi-Fi on the tablet. Pick your PC from the listed devices. Once you've connected the first time, you probably won't need to have Kies open before you initiate the connection on your tablet. Kies will leave a little behind to watch for the connection, then open up.
I have it working well, except that Kies freezes up occassionally. My PC runs Windows 7 64bit.
Run Kies on the PC. Then go into settings/Wireless and Networks/Kies via Wi-Fi on the tablet. Pick your PC from the listed devices.
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I tried doing that and the Tab 10.1 doesn't find my computer on the same WiFi - it just says No Devices after scanning.
I've disabled my firewall on my laptop just in case, but still no luck. Any ideas? Thx
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I tried doing that and the Tab 10.1 doesn't find my computer on the same WiFi - it just says No Devices after scanning. Any ideas? Thx
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Just keep trying. Mine didn't see the PC at first, but found it on the second try. My PC is wired on my network, with tab using WiFi from the same router. Not sure your PC can be connected to the internet via WiFi and still connect to the Tab via the same WiFi. Seems like it "should" work, but that may be one roadblock. Working fine on my system. I have a notebook PC arriving tomorrow or the next day and I'll put Keis on it to see if I have the same luck.
I feel dumb for asking this but what is kies? What does it do? Is this a samsung only thing?
its like a samsung itunes.
Silenus21 said:
its like a samsung itunes.
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Yeah, though not as bloated or laggy ... but I was hoping for plex like media streaming capabilities, but sadly not supported ...
Found a way around it. All I needed to do is connect my Galaxy Tab 10.1 through the usb cable first, and then Kies would recognize it through WiFi afterwards. I guess the Laptop and Tab needed to meet each other through USB first.
kies does not see it or something, it keeps telling me to disconnect and reconnect, this is when i try to do with usb. when i press kies via wifi on tablet icon, screen gets a gray hue over it and does nothign...
I have it working with my Wifi 10.1- and I'm using Win7 in a VirtualBox window on my Ubuntu machine. The one thing that kies won't do is copy arbitrary files to my SGT. What a pain!!
There is a workaround- add the ".pdf" extension to the end of your file name (foo.apk.pdf) then you can do a single file copy to the SGT. Kies does a great job of playing gatekeeper so that you don't put anything harmful on your SGT. Heaven forbid you might root it or something.
thebballkid said:
Found a way around it. All I needed to do is connect my Galaxy Tab 10.1 through the usb cable first, and then Kies would recognize it through WiFi afterwards. I guess the Laptop and Tab needed to meet each other through USB first.
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I have the opposite problem, I can connect to it via wifi but when I connect USB kies does not recognize it.
Unfortunately Kies became useless as in the new version they dropped the ability to synchronize with Outlook!
jaoropez said:
kies does not see it or something, it keeps telling me to disconnect and reconnect, this is when i try to do with usb. when i press kies via wifi on tablet icon, screen gets a gray hue over it and does nothign...
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I had this same problem. Could connect fine via USB but nothing happened when trying to connect via Wi-Fi other than the tablet's screen graying out. After doing a factory reset it's now working for me.
Finally have wifi file transfer
My MAC with lion would not connect to the 10.1 wireless or USB. Today on PC World they had an App WIFI File Explorer. Free download crippled and $1.60 Pro version. It is in the Market & Amazon.
I have the pro version and can transfer files wirelessly now. To me it was worth the $ rather than fight with Samsung.
Hi all, my Note cannot connect to Kies....which after I checked with the internet is a very conman problem for Galaxy. I still want to make it works and I have some questions if anyone can help....Thanks in advance!
1) I checked some web site that to connect with Kies in computer (mine is Win7 64 bits) that we should first go to the phone's Setting-->About phone-->USB connect-->connect with Kies....... However in my Note there is no such setting in About Phone and I checked all areas in Setting but there is no USB connect-->Kies....... where is it?
2) Although I cannot connect with Kies at my computer but I can still use MTP connection is that all with Note?
3) If I cannot connect with Kies do I still get update from Samsung? I noticed that in my phone setting--> about phone section, there is one are that can click in to check updates, so what should I do?
Thanks again everyone....
Kies will not connect to 7" Tab, Galaxy S or Galaxy Note on my 64bit Windows 7 Ultimate system. Have tried older versions, latest version, Repairing and numerous drivers as there are posts elsewhere of 64bit driver issues. Works fine in MTP mode and Kies Air.
Have no such problems on XP professional.
Glad I am not the only one but it seems to be a Kies problem rather than the phones/tablets.
Any help would be appreciated by those of us suffering!
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The USB connection utilities are under Wireless and Networking, however chances are your Kies issue is because you have USB Debugging turned on.
Regards,
Dave
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foxmeister said:
chances are your Kies issue is because you have USB Debugging turned on
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No - it's off - as I said, it works fine with all three Samsungs on my XP Pro machine but not on Win7 64bit machine. However, ADB works fine on both machines so I'm pretty sure that it's a problem Kies has with a driver.
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ah good to know win7 ult 64 doesn't support it, that explains a few things. But why isn't total commander copying and pasting to it. ?
My 7" tab can connect to kies running on a 64 bit win 7 ultimate and home basic without any issues.
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My SGS connect on my 64bit Win7, not ultimate though. I can remember that it couldn't connect at first, I think I had to change the USB Settings. Give it a try
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tintin169 where are you located. i had to download kies from samsung.uk the version from samsung.us would not let me connect to the note.
bedspringlex said:
tintin169 where are you located. i had to download kies from samsung.uk the version from samsung.us would not let me connect to the note.
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Am from Hong Kong....may be is the WIN 64 bit problem, I am using Win 7 professional not ultimate, and will continue test it, may be DL Kies from UK....
BTW what funny is that I send this problem to Samsung all they said is to reset the machine to factory default and try..... guess not much help....
Connected fine on my win7 64bit ultimate. Must be some other issue. Impressed with the functionality
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I agree with post #8, had same problem, phone unlocked from UK, downloaded Kies from UK samsung site and no problems on Windows 7, 64 bit. Try download from different Samsung site.
are you using any other launcher? Tried on my wife's phone the other day (different phone). It only connects when the phone is in the Samsung Launcher with every apps closed.
64 bit fine. I had a similar issue until I saw one blog article that said "once USB debugging is off *kill all tasks*" - did that and it worked fine.
Have to say, the concept of Kies for firmware upgrades works really well (as a piece of consumer software) though, as a colleague said, you can see why they are in hot water with Apple - it's a direct rip of iTunes!
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it's a direct rip of iTunes!
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Yep, I hate both with a passion
Won't run at all !
Kies UK won't run at all. I immediately get "Kies has stopped working" The phone shows up fine in Explorer. I'm Windows 7 64 bit.
I tried :
Uninstall from Device Manager then reinstall.
Install as Administrator.
Uninstalled Windows Mobile Device Manage
I tired every Kies thread Google showed. 5 hours so far.
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Kies UK won't run at all. I immediately get "Kies has stopped working" The phone shows up fine in Explorer. I'm Windows 7 64 bit.
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I got likewise. Think it was related to the USB drivers. Worth making sure USB debugging is off and the phone pops "MTP connection"* in the title bar prior to trying to run Kies.
My anti-virus also affected it. If you run, turn it off prior to installation - if you've already installed, turn it off and to a Repair (Change) from Add/Remove programs.
Win 7 Home Premium X64 plus UK Kies plus German Note = success for me. No drama, no hoops, no fiddling with antivirus or firewall settings. Easy peasy.
The only issue was needing to disable USB debugging on the phone, which was not made at all clear in the message issued by Kies.
Windows 7 64-bit home premium, no problems with this or the sgsii....
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NO luck on my iMac
So i tried my laptop with windows 7, when i connected the Note it had to update several things. That took a while, and i ahd an update from Kies. After all that it said immediately that there was an update for my Note with a few improvements. I bought mine in The Hague in The Netherlands, but it is a German version. He is stil busy as we speak, at 99%
It started working for me on win7 64bit after I unchecked USB debugging under applications-->USB debugging. If memory serves I had the same problem on SGS.
I'm tethering a connection with my Xperia X10 using 'Wifi Tether for root users' app. I'm sure it work's fine cause I'm able to connect to this network via laptop or another android phone. What I'm not able to do is connect to this network from my Transformer. I click on the network and it just changes the state to Remembered but it won't connect to it no matter how many times I cick the thing.
Have any of you managed to solve this already?
I'm running an official ICS, no root or stuff. Completly clean.
What type of hotspot is it putting out? Ad hoc?
I think so
I don't know if it can help, but the issue you describe is exactly the one I had when I used my HTC Sensation (with any ICS custom ROM) as a Wifi AP : I could browse the web from any peripheral connected to the "HTC Portable Hotspot"... except from my TF101 !
I thought the problem came from the TF101 itself (and I'm still thinking it...), but curiously I solved it by flashing my HTC Sensation back to stock ROM (Android 2.3.4) !
Now my TF101 can browse the web through my Sensation like any other device...
I'm still thinking it's Transformer. I was flashing several softs before I started posting. It was always only the bloody transformer that couldn't connect... funny thing is that exactly week ago on the exactly same ICS I've managed to connect. Then it started to fail.
I thin your router needs to support Infrastructure and not adhoc networks to work wth the transformer.
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Dude - it's a phone, not a router. It supports ad-hoc only. And as I said - it worked ocassionally. Myabe it's a reason to call a guarantee services?
if your TF is already rooted, then try the free app wifiadhocenabler from the market. i used this for my galaxy s2 because samsung disabled adhoc connections.
I can connect to my x10 just fine using the native tethering (via settings). I am still on HC though...
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I'm just a user, but I had the same problem when I was running Gingerbread on my HTC Legend. Now, there aren't really any proper drivers for that on Gingerbread, so it was done ad-hoc. When I updated to ICS on the TF101 it lost the ability to connect to ad-hoc hotspots. Installing a ROM that uses Froyo fixed it.
I think Prime users faced the same issue, but managed to enable ad-hoc support. Root on the tablet was of course needed.
This is really weird. One day it's connecting and week later it's not. And I haven't been changing ROM since then (neither on the phone or transformer)
Ad-hoc wireless support was supposed to be fixed in the latest .17 ICS update; however, I am still unable to use my TF101 to connect to an ad-hoc network.
-Matt