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Is there an app for viewing Netflix on the Iconia? I tried to view Netflix from the browser and received an error about formatting for this device.
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Nothing official from them yet. I've seen a leaked app, but it didn't work on my Samsung Fascinate.

Unless Google comes up with some blanket deal with Netflix, the process for portable devices is device specific:
1. Device must have the proper DRM keys and chipset for adequate streaming & playback.
2. OEM must submit the device for approval and pay Netlfix for the set-up and Netflix server access.
It would be cool if this changed, but Google would have to pay up, since already tons of iPhones, iPad and iPods using the service. LG is the only Android OEM to get Netlfix approval with their Revolution.

You can use Playon Mobile to watch Netflix on your Android device temporarily. You'll have to pay for it though after the trial is done. I think you pay annually and then you get access to PlayOn on pretty much any device the whole time. Hulu, Netflix, and Amazon VOD should work this way.

PlayOn is nice, but less efficient than a straight Netflix app (need to have your host computer on to network off of for PlayOn). Still better than nothing and provides more options for content.
People waiting for a working Netflix app will probably not be happy. OEMs have to pay up and the chipset must be qualified.

i have a netflix app for my G2 which works great. It also worked on my Nook Color. But it doesnt work on my brand new acer. It says my device isnt supported.

minotauri said:
i have a netflix app for my G2 which works great. It also worked on my Nook Color. But it doesnt work on my brand new acer. It says my device isnt supported.
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The actual Netflix app that stream movies from Netflix, or just the rental management?

android netflix
the app is out and netflix said they are going to add phones/devices

i guess netflix finally figured out that android is the real deal

FYI, I've installed the apk directly on my device and it will not play videos on the A500 currently. You click to launch a video and the screen flickers and then goes back to the page you were on before clicking play.

They have only released Netflix for select phones. Don't even bother trying it on the a500, it won't work.

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The actual Netflix app that stream movies from Netflix, or just the rental management?
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this was the leaked official app from the LG phone. but like others said, the official release is out now but only supports certain phones.

Yeah, Work's great on my Nexus one hope they release an optimized honeycomb version for A500 soon...

Works really well on my evo. Even the hdmi out is nice. Hopefully netflix will show some tablet love soon.

I suspect the problem is with the tegra and not the os. It may not be optimized to be decoded on our tablets yet, but I guess software may be a limitation also. Does the optimus 2x have a netflix app? That might be more useful for us to try if it does...just a thought?

There's been a work around that can get it to work w/ other non-supported devices posted over at android police (would post link, but I don't have enough posts under my belt). Haven't tried it yet, so no idea if it works for the A500.
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I tried the work around. No dice. Tried both build props for HTC vision and Nexus S. Worked on my G tablet running CyanogenMod 7 though.

It does not work on the gTablet that uses Froyo, either.
Netflix is SUPPOSED to be device specific, but there has already been hacks for Droid X (certain rooted roms it works). Folks that should be ticked are official rom users that own bloatware infested devices that use Blockbuster.
Blockbuster bloated devices will probably "never" see official support for Netflix, but rooters might luck out.
Netflix works great on my Incredible, but it is an officially supported device.

rushless said:
It does not work on the gTablet that uses Froyo, either.
Netflix is SUPPOSED to be device specific, but there has already been hacks for Droid X (certain rooted roms it works). Folks that should be ticked are official rom users that own bloatware infested devices that use Blockbuster.
Blockbuster bloated devices will probably "never" see official support for Netflix, but rooters might luck out.
Netflix works great on my Incredible, but it is an officially supported device.
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Well....the blockbuster infected Evo was added to the list yesterday....so I wouldn't give up.
For those that have a subscription there are options, but as mentioned it does require a host computer

minotauri said:
i have a netflix app for my G2 which works great. It also worked on my Nook Color. But it doesnt work on my brand new acer. It says my device isnt supported.
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have you tried the method mentioned today 5/13 about changing a line to HTC vision or nexus s?
you can find this over androidguys.

[Q] No more FLASH support on jelly bean?

I saw that the nexus 7 comes with Chrome as default browser. Does it mean no more flash support?
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Fairly sure Chrome supports, if not will support, flash?
If not then the new build of Firefox which is out supports flash :highfive:

Chrome does not, and will not, support Flash.
I believe other browsers that support Flash should be fine though (for now).

As long as Adobe supports Jelly Bean, Flash should still work normally in other browsers.

I dint think chrome will be supporting it. just use opera mobile then
Opera mobile the best anyways

But I remember adobe once saying that ICS will be the last android version to support adobe flash.. Not sure though..

This got me curious, so I spent some time looking around the Nexus 7 webpage. It says that Flash IS supported, just not in Chrome. The note says that you can download Browser from Google Play. Presumably, other browsers with plugin support (Firefox 14) should be compatible as well.

nishant_713 said:
But I remember adobe once saying that ICS will be the last android version to support adobe flash.. Not sure though..
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It is. Though Jelly Bean isn't that big a jump OS wise, so it shouldn't have broken flash compatibility.

Chrome for android does not support flash and according to Adobe, it won't. Apparently you'll be able to download the usual default browser on the play store if you require flash, or an assortment of 3rd party browsers that support flash.

I'm not sure if anyone notice...
If you look at the Flash in Play Store, Adobe states that "Flash Player will not be supported in any Android version beyond 4.0.X"
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not being supported doesn't necessarily mean it wont work

Thank god. After all these years, Flash is dead.

Adobe has dropped flash support themselves I believe, which is understandable as flash is indeed on its way out now with many web apps and websites in general turning to HTML5 as more universal coding method. However, whilst Chrome does not support flash, simply installing another browser onto the Nexus should allow you flash support (Skyfire browser I think for one).

In my opinion, the stock browser in ICS, especially with quick controls enabled, is the best browser I've ever used. I'm happy to hear it will be available for download, however am indeed worried about getting flash installed on Jellybean. Adobe is not releasing Flash updates past security & fixes. one big thing I love about ICS is the ability to load full net pages, which use flash, at my choosing and would hate to loose this functionality if flash is not compatible with Jellybean.

qoncept said:
Thank god. After all these years, Flash is dead.
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You are my first boo post....... Booooooooo! There felt good

TheSeanR said:
not being supported doesn't necessarily mean it wont work
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This. Adobe won't fix it, but if it worked on ics it should still work on jelly bean. The next version is probably screwed though.

As stated before Adobe has stated before after ICS no more flash support.
Chrome for android never supported flash to begin with.
Frankly I think flash is a poor user experience on a tablet anyway.

It's unfortunately true: Chrome on Jelly Bean does not and will not support Flash. Chrome looks amazing otherwise. The question is: Will XDA devs be able to bake flash back in? Using a non-flash supporting browser is simply out of the question for me.
Don't get me started on how the rational of dropping flash support no longer applies. Tablets are now quad-core beasts that are supposed to replace laptops and provide the most complete browsing experience. I think Google -like Apple- just wants people to consume its media instead.

Why not just use a market browser that supports flash like Dolphin?

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Why not just use a market browser that supports flash like Dolphin?
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Sure, there's always 'that' solution, but it also means you miss out on Chrome. Firefo is bloody amazing but you need to re-load every page in Desktop mode, there's now way to make the client desktop from the start.
I want to use Chrome (mostly bec of the sync options with the desktop verison), but I also want to have flash... That's the thing.

[Q] flash player on kitkat 4.4

have tried dolphin xscope and firefox cannot get flash to work. any ideas

stevethewelshman said:
have tried dolphin xscope and firefox cannot get flash to work. any ideas
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I didn't think Dolphin ever worked post-Jellybean, but Firefox for sure did under 4.3. Have you checked to make sure that plug-ins are enabled (and of course have Flash sideloaded)?

It doesn't work. 4.4 breaks flash player for some reason. Hence, that's why I went back to 4.3 (or at least tried and then my N7 got fubar'd for some reason and I've done this numerous times, so it couldn't be due to pilot error).
Hopefully, Firefox will either get updated to work, or if it's because the Flash Player doesn't work anymore with 4.4, then I'll be sticking with 4.3, maybe even going back to 4.1.2 as 4.3 seems to get choppy.

From what I've been reading it seems that the 4.4 Web engine is chromium based now so the only way to get flash working is through server side browsers such as Puffin. I had to go back to a 4.3 ROM for my NBA games and other streams.
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worldwidepmp said:
From what I've been reading it seems that the 4.4 Web engine is chromium based now so the only way to get flash working is through server side browsers such as Puffin. I had to go back to a 4.3 ROM for my NBA games and other streams.
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Well that sucks, especially since Puffin is choppy with the flash videos. I guess kit kat is no more for me on my Nexus (once I get my RMA back).

Ugh, that sucks. Wait till people try watching Amazon Instant Video. :-/ OTOH hopefully this will create enough complaints that they'll finally release an app.
I've tried Puffin on iPad and the video quality didn't remotely compare. Smooth framerate is kinda important when watching figure skating.

lfeuln said:
Ugh, that sucks. Wait till people try watching Amazon Instant Video. :-/ OTOH hopefully this will create enough complaints that they'll finally release an app.
I've tried Puffin on iPad and the video quality didn't remotely compare. Smooth framerate is kinda important when watching figure skating.
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Amazon Instant Video is EXACTLY why I need to go back to 4.3 or prior. Puffin is just not acceptable for this. It's a nice try, but it's just too choppy and unwatchable.
What REALLY needs to happen is Amazon needs to get off of their duff, get away from flash and release an HTML5 version of their viewer AND release it for Android devices, not just their Kindle, the red-headed-step-child of Android devices.

Just a footnote.... Dolphin has ran flash perfectly up to 4.2.2 anyway.
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Also.... This flash stuff and other things are starting to make me think Android is trying to lean towards the apple way of doing things. Html5? Bullplop ..flash still dominates the Internet. Not just Android, but the phone makers too. Making unlockable boot loaders and what not.
Scary!
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kj2112 said:
Just a footnote.... Dolphin has ran flash perfectly up to 4.2.2 anyway.
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Also.... This flash stuff and other things are starting to make me think Android is trying to lean towards the apple way of doing things. Html5? Bullplop ..flash still dominates the Internet. Not just Android, but the phone makers too. Making unlockable boot loaders and what not.
Scary!
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Actually, Adobe is the one that dropped Flash from Android. They quit developing for it about a year ago.
Html5 IS supposed to be the standardized way of doing multimedia so that it is standard across all browsers, mobile, desktop, etc. When it eventually gets to that point, is anybody's guess.
So, it's not Android/Google forcing people off of Flash, it was Adobe as they refused to develop for it anymore. They apparently couldn't get it to work reliably and efficiently, although it seemed to be doing fine to me. My guess is they finally realized that Flash apparently was not built well for mobile applications and they didn't feel like putting much more effort into it. Sounds like a case of giving up if you ask me.
Oh well, hopefully HTML5 will work better. I'd like to know how Google does it with their Google Play movies, as well as how the VuDu app streams the videos. They seem to do it just fine. Not sure why Amazon doesn't do it that way as well.

iBolski said:
Actually, Adobe is the one that dropped Flash from Android. They quit developing for it about a year ago.
Html5 IS supposed to be the standardized way of doing multimedia so that it is standard across all browsers, mobile, desktop, etc. When it eventually gets to that point, is anybody's guess.
So, it's not Android/Google forcing people off of Flash, it was Adobe as they refused to develop for it anymore. They apparently couldn't get it to work reliably and efficiently, although it seemed to be doing fine to me. My guess is they finally realized that Flash apparently was not built well for mobile applications and they didn't feel like putting much more effort into it. Sounds like a case of giving up if you ask me.
Oh well, hopefully HTML5 will work better. I'd like to know how Google does it with their Google Play movies, as well as how the VuDu app streams the videos. They seem to do it just fine. Not sure why Amazon doesn't do it that way as well.
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Yep. Adobe have not certified any version of Adobe Flash Player to run correctly on any version of Android after Ice Cream Sandwich.
cf. this blog post from Adobe, circa 2012...
"There will be no certified implementations of Flash Player for Android 4.1."
http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/06/flash-player-and-android-update.html.
The fact that Adobe Flash Player 'sort-of' runs OK on some versions of (pre v4.3) Jellybean, is more of an issue of fortuitous serendipity, than it is an issue if intelligent directed design.
Adobe Flash Player is essentially finished on the Android platform... I just hope that the much vaunted HTML5 standard very quickly takes it's place.
Rgrds,
Ged.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548001
Flash working on my Nexus 7, running stock 4.4 KRT16S. Pity it is with Dolphin browser but its something.

What GedBlake said.
AFAIK, Flash is broken from 4.3 onwards in WebView-based browsers. Look up issue 58608 in the AOSP Issue Tracker. Note this comment:
"Adobe stopped supporting the Flash plugin on Android quite a while ago. We continued to try and keep the old plugin working for a while, but as of 4.3 plugin support has been deprecated and is no longer supported."
There's a bigger issue looming in KitKat, with Google purposely crippling WebView to force people to Chrome (see issue 62293). KitKat hasn't gotten enough pick up yet for people to notice. I suspect that eventually someone will have to bite the bullet, dump WebView, and build a more recent version of the WebKit library into their browser to work around this.
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Xcandescent said:
What GedBlake said.
AFAIK, Flash is broken from 4.3 onwards in WebView-based browsers. Look up issue 58608 in the AOSP Issue Tracker. Note this comment:
"Adobe stopped supporting the Flash plugin on Android quite a while ago. We continued to try and keep the old plugin working for a while, but as of 4.3 plugin support has been deprecated and is no longer supported."
There's a bigger issue looming in KitKat, with Google purposely crippling WebView to force people to Chrome (see issue 62293). KitKat hasn't gotten enough pick up yet for people to notice. I suspect that eventually someone will have to bite the bullet, dump WebView, and build a more recent version of the WebKit library into their browser to work around this.
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I don't confess to understand technically all you wrote but generally I have found my need for Flash has diminished nicely as getting Flash hacks have been getting more challenging. I was on 4.2.2 for ages due many issues including this Flash issue, I moved to 4.4 found broke flash so went down to 4.3 to find I preferred 4.4 and willing to forego flash. So it's a nice bonus to get flash back with this Dolphin hack as it gives that bit more time for flash death.

Fine, let me translate.
As GedBlake posted, Adobe quit supporting Flash past Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0). They did do security updates for a while, but only for 4.0, and I believe they've stopped doing those as well; to quote:
"On September 10 2013, Adobe released Flash Player 11.1.111.73 for Android 2.x and 3.x and 11.1.115.81 for Android 4.0.x in keeping with statements made in Adobe's publicly available Flash Roadmap. This release is the final update release of Flash Player for the Android operating system."
Adobe's statements tend to be obtuse and full of weasel words, but I think that one's pretty clear: They're done with patching Flash on Android.
A lot of people have confused these security updates as being continued support for new ROM versions, which is wrong. As it turns out, that confusion is actually Google's fault. To wit:
"Adobe stopped supporting the Flash plugin on Android quite a while ago. We continued to try and keep the old plugin working for a while, but as of 4.3 plugin support has been deprecated and is no longer supported."
Translation: Google, without telling anyone, attempted to semi-officially keep Flash working. Their unofficial, under the radar support enabled people to run Flash on versions it shouldn't have worked on, which led to heaps of confusion about whether or not it was supported. That has ended. As of 4.3, Google has officially quit.
Again, none of this should've mattered, since Adobe quit at 4.0, and Flash is Adobe's product. Google was under no obligation to even try to support it (Flash is not their product), but they did anyway, which confused everyone. That is no longer the case.
As of 4.3, if Flash works, it's only through unofficial hacks. It is likely that said hacks would use old versions of Flash Player, which are no longer being patched. Running any of them is a security risk. Buyer beware.
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Fine, let me translate. .... <snip>
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no I was on about your earlier technical explanation. Your reply now is about finger-pointing between Adobe and Google.
Personally, these hacks are perfectly ok, they allow limited situations where Flash in browser is better/essential than new native apps. The need for Flash is diminishing. When I got my first android device (N7 2012 in August 2012) "out the box" Flash didn't work but did with Firefox in desktop mode and applying the last Android supported Flash APKs. At the time, apps I used like Hulu Plus were buggy, now much more stable, the BBC Iplayer apps was very limited and cumbersome, now it is excellent. So my need to use Flash has dropped dramatically in the last 16 months.
I use Splashtop to a WoL Windows 7 old computer plugged into my home router for these niggling areas which don't quite work on Android. For me I also got issues like with Lotus Notes, on Android a few issues are really painful, I manage those via Splashtop but otherwise use local native apps.
This workaround will work basically "forever" as long Flash is supported on Windows 7. Pick your imperfect hack basically. I am glad I got a bit more time with local Flash via Dolphin, just in case, to complement remote desktop, and the improving non-Flash alternatives.
http://youtu.be/NIkaixDp0O0

iBolski said:
It doesn't work. 4.4 breaks flash player for some reason. Hence, that's why I went back to 4.3 (or at least tried and then my N7 got fubar'd for some reason and I've done this numerous times, so it couldn't be due to pilot error).
Hopefully, Firefox will either get updated to work, or if it's because the Flash Player doesn't work anymore with 4.4, then I'll be sticking with 4.3, maybe even going back to 4.1.2 as 4.3 seems to get choppy.
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Adobe does not support android 4.4 kitkat to have adobe flash player as a native system feature but flash can be installed manually on android 4.4 kitkat.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I certainly can't be bothered "trying"to get flash working on 4.3 or 4.4....Then it still be unstable.
My n7 will die with 4.2.2 on it.
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Android or just Google Play store?

Greetings,
What are the trade-offs and benefits of installing full Android (CyanogenMod most likely) versus just installing the Google Play store? It seems like with the Google Play store you would have 90% of things right there. Just trying to identify if I need to install CM. I do like having Amazon's music/video service working on my Fire HD (v2012).
Thanks
Side note: I do run CynogenMod on my Galaxy SIII.

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SteveOaks said:
Greetings,
What are the trade-offs and benefits of installing full Android (CyanogenMod most likely) versus just installing the Google Play store? It seems like with the Google Play store you would have 90% of things right there. Just trying to identify if I need to install CM. I do like having Amazon's music/video service working on my Fire HD (v2012).
Thanks
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Read cyanogenmod features, you will not regret installing
cyanogenmod disadvantage:
amazon will lose services

Not sure which amazon music/video service you were referring to but I thought I'd point out that last I checked the Google mp3 cloud service holds way more music than Amazon's for free. I mean even before I flashed cm I started using it just because of that and my mp3 collection is only around 2 thousand songs, whereas I think amazon does it by time limit. Another upside is some apps won't appear in the Google play store when running the amazon os that the kindle is perfectly able to run, but they do however show up in cm based OS's. Not to mention it's way easier to install whatever launcher you want without risk of softbricking in the event of you forgetting to set permissions, oh and wallpaper works without having to apply a fix. I feel a bit biased towards using non-stock roms because stock seems never to be enough for me but weigh it how you will.
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Nexus-Player and Amazon Prime Video?

I keep seeing conflicting info, is there a way to get Amazon Prime Video on my Nexus-Player, as a Prime customer??? I have installed Amazon Underground but it is still asking for Prime Video to be installed, which I haven't found.

There is a method using Amazon Underground as well as a custom launcher hosted here somewhere called Prime Video Launcher which handles the proper login needed. However, the video quality seems to be limited to 480p, and the apps don't work well at all without a keyboard/mouse.
Huge headache. I gave up. Amazon doesn't want my money bad enough.

metaljr81 said:
There is a method using Amazon Underground as well as a custom launcher hosted here somewhere called Prime Video Launcher which handles the proper login needed. However, the video quality seems to be limited to 480p, and the apps don't work well at all without a keyboard/mouse.
Huge headache. I gave up. Amazon doesn't want my money bad enough.
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Prime Video Launcher doesn't seem to available anywhere on the net...

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Prime Video Launcher doesn't seem to available anywhere on the net...
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Ah, that's right. It got pretty successfully DCMA'd
https://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/development/amazon-prime-video-demand-android-tv-t3278778
Sorry

Has anyone tried the amazon video for the nvidia shield?

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I have a Roku and fireTV boxes, but since I really like streamers I bought a Nexus Player this week, because I saw a comparison video with a MiBox and the Nexus was running Android 7.1 and recent security update. I bought an OTG Ethernet adapter from Amazon to go with it. After factory resetting the player it was like setting up a brand new streamer. Anyway, Amazon Video is what we all want, of course, if we have a Prime membership. I knew the Shield had recently gotten the app and since the Nexus is still being supported with updates very well I have to wonder, reasonably I think, if there is a real chance the Nexus will get the app. I did install the APK for Amazon Video and like everybody else it installs, you can watch trailers, but that's as far as it goes.
Anybody think there is any chance the deal will be done for the Nexus Player? thanks!

I doubt it. I finally gave up and bought the Shield.
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Did anyone try the newly released Prime Video app from google play (http://www.androidauthority.com/amazon-prime-video-app-arrives-us-play-store-797134/)?

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Did anyone try the newly released Prime Video app from google play (http://www.androidauthority.com/amazon-prime-video-app-arrives-us-play-store-797134/)?
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wont install, I believe because its not an x86 app as the nexus player is using an intel x86 processor and not the more common ARM or ARM64 in phones (if it where you could just deal with a portrait/phone/touch based UI on a tv until you get to video playing back). Also its supposedly (according to reddit) the same app countries other than USA have had in the play store for some time, amazon only today flagged it as install-able by the USA market.

Ok, was suspicious about the x86 proc. Not many devices left using it. Cheers.

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...I believe because its not an x86 app as the nexus player is using an intel x86 processor and not the more common ARM or ARM64 in phones...
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I'm not sure if it's a x86 thing.
I just updated the Amazon Prime Video app (current version 3.0.209.146341) through the Play Store on my wife's Asus Memo Pad 7 ME572C, and that tablet has an Intel Atom Z3560 (quad-core 1.83GHz / PowerVR G6430 with 2GB RAM / 16GB memory) in it. The Nexus Player has the exact same SoC, I believe.
I would imagine that the Prime Video app doesn't show up on the Play Store because it doesn't have a Leanback UI so it's not flagged as compatible for the Nexus Player. That's my guess, anyway.