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I know a little about rooting but I would love to learn how to develop ROMs. I understand that is something that I can not just jump into. Can anyone point me to all of the information that I will need to learn how to do this.
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rllong1 said:
I know a little about rooting but I would love to learn how to develop ROMs. I understand that is something that I can not just jump into. Can anyone point me to all of the information that I will need to learn how to do this.
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google is the best place.

Try these as a start, but I recommend Google also. And reading through the 'Android Development' forum posts here and for other devices (G1, in particular).
http://www.kandroid.org/android_pdk/index.html
http://blog.coralic.nl/2010/01/28/bu...o-from-source/
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.ph...ck_Boot_Images
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-...ge-source.html
http://adrianvintu.com/blogengine/post/Colored-Logcat-Script-for-Windows.aspx
And the ones in my sig...

A couple of things not to do:
Copy someone else's work or ROM, make a few minor changes, and call it your own.
Include applications that don't allow others to re-distribute. Just because they're free doesn't mean people can include them.
One thing you really should do:
Give others credit for any small tweaks or fixes that they provide.

hallstevenson said:
A couple of things not to do:
Give others credit for any small tweaks or fixes that they provide.
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So you saying not to give ppl credit for when they help out?

droidkevlar said:
So you saying not to give ppl credit for when they help out?
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lol. was thinking the same thing.

There, fixed

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
From the great Cyanogen himself.

Thanks for all the info guys. I will check it out.
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[stock rom] ef02

EF02 anyone?? http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/7426959-exclusive-samsung-epic-4g-
Direct Link - http://hotfile.com/dl/121177556/170dbb6/D700EF02.rar.html
File PW- samfirmware.com
Obviously not my doing.. just passing on the links from samfirmware.com
How to by qbking77
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLMlYuwTj6w
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Buddy if you looked at the general setting there already a thread for this, you aren't developing anything just copying and pasting
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http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/7426959-exclusive-samsung-epic-4g-
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Buddy, I know I am not developing anything... I was merely trying to provide a link to something that I thought the developers could use. and its not the general settings its the general forums. I think its obvious that it was copied and pasted. Dont be an idiot dude. we are all excited about progress and when us "non-developer" types try to help the developers out we get flamed by cs's like you. flag the post if you feel it shouldnt be here but I believe the link that I provided is more useful than your stupid ass post.
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Buddy if you looked at the general setting there already a thread for this, you aren't developing anything just copying and pasting
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We'll all I was saying, is that you didn't need to post it here, since it was already posted in the general fourm, don't get all but hurt man, I just feel that if we aren't developing we shouldn't start a topic in this fourm, sorry if I hurt your feelings man
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Buddy, I know I am not developing anything... I was merely trying to provide a link to something that I thought the developers could use. and its not the general settings its the general forums. I think its obvious that it was copied and pasted. Dont be an idiot dude. we are all excited about progress and when us "non-developer" types try to help the developers out we get flamed by cs's like you. flag the post if you feel it shouldnt be here but I believe the link that I provided is more useful than your stupid ass post.
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Wheres my lighter? lol
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I get sick of everytime somebody posts someone else feels the need to "police" the threads. Its ridiculous.
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We'll all I was saying, is that you didn't need to post it here, since it was already posted in the general fourm, don't get all but hurt man, I just feel that if we aren't developing we shouldn't start a topic in this fourm, sorry if I hurt your feelings man
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Basically, a .RAR file is similar to a zip file - it's usually used either to compress a file so that it's a smaller download, and/or to pack multiple files into a single file.
The part that's more confusing to most people is Windows (or Mac, for that matter) has no built-in support for RAR files. For Windows, the solution I like is something called Peazip - it's a free download. For the Mac, Stuffit Expander will do the job (also a free download for just the Expander). Both can be found easily by googling them - I haven't posted enough times yet to be able to give the direct address for them.
Hope that helps.

When you start the thread, "hope I don't get flamed.." it shows you already know that you have a high chance of getting flamed ha if not by me someone else would have done it, and you hate that so why post? And you said you don't know what to do with the .rar, how about use odin and flash it, lol, it not like a developer going to be like " OMG didn't know where this was been looking everywhere for it!" When it already in the general forum
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I get sick of everytime somebody posts someone else feels the need to "police" the threads. Its ridiculous.
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I'll agree this isn't probably the best location for that question, but I was a noob once too, plus it's Friday, so I'm feeling nice today.

castro08 said:
When you start the thread, "hope I don't get flamed.." it shows you already know that you have a high chance of getting flamed ha if not by me someone else would have done it, and you hate that so why post? And you said you don't know what to do with the .rar, how about use odin and flash it, lol, it not like a developer going to be like " OMG didn't know where this was been looking everywhere for it!" When it already in the general forum
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Yeah don't talk to castro like that! He gave us ec05!
Haha remember that treat? Best treat ever...I'm gonna necro it soon just to remember the good times lol...
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LMAO didn't know anybody still remembered that ha wow that made my day,
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Yeah don't talk to castro like that! He gave us ec05!
Haha remember that treat? Best treat ever...I'm gonna necro it soon just to remember the good times lol...
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I get sick of everytime somebody posts someone else feels the need to "police" the threads. Its ridiculous.
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I agree, the man is trying to help out the community and he gets slammed for it. I wish people on here were more laid back. This is community (free) rom development, lets try to act like were gratefull for this stuff and be more civil to each other.
From cellblock D

Please just keep the thread on topic! I don't mind seeing this in the development section..... he's just helping everyone out. Thanks
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The disclaimer was because I was posting a link and not the actual rom. I have seen many people post a tar for a stock rom. I posted a link to a stock rom and that was the difference.
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When you start the thread, "hope I don't get flamed.." it shows you already know that you have a high chance of getting flamed ha if not by me someone else would have done it, and you hate that so why post? And you said you don't know what to do with the .rar, how about use odin and flash it, lol, it not like a developer going to be like " OMG didn't know where this was been looking everywhere for it!" When it already in the general forum
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Change thread title to - [STOCK ROM] EF02 - and we all be happy.
A thread for all stock builds or one thread for every stock build should be here IMO.

Guys these threads are packed with useless bickering as it is, lets just try and stay on topic guys
now, as for this EF02, you guys think there'll be a rooted/custom version available by the end of today? Some ppl who have flashed this already say its really smooth, the only problem is thats its stock, so flashing it will rewrite our recovery image and break our CWM/current root I'm tempted to flash it, but then again, i dnt want to lose my SRF 1.1.1 without being able to restore back. so i'll wait

haas599 said:
Change thread title to - [STOCK ROM] EF02 - and we all be happy.
A thread for all stock builds or one thread for every stock build should be here IMO.
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sounds like a good idea +1

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I disagree. One of the things that makes this forum so helpful overall is its heavy policing.
Other forums are a disorganized wild west, and you can't find anything without 5 minutes of sorting the good from the crap.
Was it warranted here? Maybe. Maybe not. As a general approach being nit-pickey douches about what goes where does help though. Few people do it twice.

OP Edited... Hope that is more suiting
haas599 said:
Change thread title to - [STOCK ROM] EF02 - and we all be happy.
A thread for all stock builds or one thread for every stock build should be here IMO.
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So next time someone comes across a new leak they shouldn't post it until they customize it? No, I'm not buying in to that. And just because it is in the General section does not mean that it shouldn't be here as well. So.. without further turning this forum into a "disorganized wild west" (sometimes the police even need policing) how about we get past the forum etiquette discussion and move on to EF02.
vita10gy said:
I disagree. One of the things that makes this forum so helpful overall is its heavy policing.
Other forums are a disorganized wild west, and you can't find anything without 5 minutes of sorting the good from the crap.
Was it warranted here? Maybe. Maybe not. As a general approach being nit-pickey douches about what goes where does help though. Few people do it twice.
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Someone answer [email protected]!

What can you do with a ROOTED sph-100? SPRINT Galaxy Tab

Whatever you want! My key root moves were to get rid of Sprint activation nagging and bloatware, and to use Titanium Backup effectively.

Install gtalk 1.3 apk with video (See themes and app folder.)
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get some p!ss!es with me home lol
you definitely dont know what "roots" mean
read some thing and you'll know by yourself

Kosh! Why is it you always have to be Mr pretentious? You are starting to work on everyone's nerves.
This forum is to help each other, not to look down on newbies.

Come on guys,,just click the link below and you will understand what kosh trying to say,,
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?deskto...e.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA&v=JmvCpR45LKA&gl=US
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smaragdhk said:
Kosh! Why is it you always have to be Mr pretentious? You are starting to work on everyone's nerves.
This forum is to help each other, not to look down on newbies.
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i don't mean anything to the OP to take it by the opposite way
all i said is : how in earth he doesn't know root means ? if he doesn't know means he shouldn't go for it right
he must read and read and do some more read and then he'll know the answer by himself .... or at least search , because this question answered for many many times ago
cheers bud , no hard feelings keep it up

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Come on guys,,just click the link below and you will understand what kosh trying to say,,
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?deskto...e.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA&v=JmvCpR45LKA&gl=US
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i believe you meant this
nope i didn't
btw i'm going to pm u now

Before rooting I suggest reading..............
FAR more important........

Also, thread titles like this will not lead to getting a good response from the community.
DO NOT make demands.
Please use titles descriptive of your problem and use the Q&A section for questions.

Theme guide?

I'm thinking of making a new guide to help people to learn how to theme. I would like to include screenshots with exact details of what path to the images and xml codes to edit. Also directions on how to decompile, compile apks and the dreaded .9 png's.
This will take me some time to put together so any themers out there who would like to help me please pm me and maybe we can split up the apk's and each take a few to work on.
Not only will this be great for people to learn but also a great referance for us themers by combining our knowledge into 1 place. Who knows maybe we will even learn something new to add to our themes.
Any help will be appreciated!
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ringold24 said:
I'm thinking of making a new guide to help people to learn how to theme. I would like to include screenshots with exact details of what path to the images and xml codes to edit. Also directions on how to decompile, compile apks and the dreaded .9 png's.
This will take me some time to put together so any themers out there who would like to help me please pm me and maybe we can split up the apk's and each take a few to work on.
Not only will this be great for people to learn but also a great referance for us themers by combining our knowledge into 1 place. Who knows maybe we will even learn something new to add to our themes.
Any help will be appreciated!
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What would you change from Dreams guide?

Wait so there's already a guide like this
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stumpyz9 said:
Wait so there's already a guide like this
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No not yet. It was just I thought I had. As I was learning to theme I was wishing there was something like this. There are some good guides but they're not as detailed as I would like. They just get your foot in the door. There are lots of things I've learned on my own. I would like to do this to cut out some of the trial and error.
I'm gonna start on it tonight but it will be a while before I'm done with it.
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What would you change from Dreams guide?
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Dreams guide is good but I would like to add screen shots and more specifics as to what xmls change what and what images change what. In the sreenshots I'll draw an arrow or something like that and type the path to where the xml/png or whatever is.
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Sounds like a really cool idea.
I for one have read the other guide, but anything visual always helps me to pick up on things. This would be awesome for those of us hoping for a start putting themes together.
I have had some ideas for themes that I think would really only suit me and perhaps 4.78 other people so it's not really something I want to ask themers to dedicate time to (can anyone say Schoolhouse Rocks theme?), when there are so many others with more adoption and demand.
I look forward to the completion.

As someone who has tried to take up trying to make themes and has failed miserably, I approve of this concept...

A detailed theme guide in addition to Dream's would have been great for when I was learning.
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Dreamsforgotten has an excellent guide. Haven't you been to the Themes forum? Usually themers hang out there...don't know why? LOL.

Can't seem to find it
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Can't seem to find it
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Its stickied at the top of Themes. If you are on xda app hit stickies.
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I think the #1 question I get asked is about the tools needed and how to set them up properly.
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I think the #1 question I get asked is about the tools needed and how to set them up properly.
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That's what I'm confused about. The guide was so confusing and didn't explain it(I don't think)
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IMO Dreams guide makes perfect sensec, but I guess thats just me. But, there is nothing wrong with visuals. But, I hope you don't try to take screenies of all of the 1100ish+ framework icons lol
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zanderman112 said:
IMO Dreams guide makes perfect sensec, but I guess thats just me. But, there is nothing wrong with visuals. But, I hope you don't try to take screenies of all of the 1100ish+ framework icons lol
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It didn't explain how to set it up or how to use it. Just kinda explained what everything was and what was needed.
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It didn't explain how to set it up or how to use it. Just kinda explained what everything was and what was needed.
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I'm pretty sure his guide foes into detail about what to install where and links to get them and steps in order of install. I'd be lost without Shane.
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zanderman112 said:
IMO Dreams guide makes perfect sensec, but I guess thats just me. But, there is nothing wrong with visuals. But, I hope you don't try to take screenies of all of the 1100ish+ framework icons lol
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Na probably not like that lol. Most of the images in the framework pretty much explain themselves. For new themers it may look a little overwhelming. The status bar alone has a few hundred images if you consider all the battery images. things like that I wouldn't need to eplain every single battery % image lol. The right screnshot could show enough to explain almost 1/4 of the images. I can still remember the first time I decompliled an apk and was gonna try xml edits. Wow was I lost and didn't have a clue where to start or what did what. A simple referance like this could have saved me a lot of time and will probably make things much easier for new themers. Who knows maybe myself or some of our current themers will learn something too. Anyways I will get started on this soon
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I think Dreams guide did a good job of explaining xml but maybe could have used a few more examples. What the guide doesn't cover is adding images into a theme through the xml files. His explanation of .9.png's and how to edit them is about as good as I've read anywhere. Also, for those that don't know, theimpaler also has a guide in the general android themes area in the stickies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916814

Where is the dreamsguide. I had the wrong guide. Lol
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epic 4g themes section. its stickied.
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Dev wanted

Okay, I have been around the forums and contributed to roms here and there. I am wanting to learn more development. The mods I have made have had there place but I want to build my own rom for both my own personal use, and to share with the community.
That being said, I have a lot to learn. I am looking for a dev who is willing to conspire on a little project I want to do. Help me learn the things I need to know to finish this project I have started. I will not attempt to take full credit for what comes of this. Proper credit will be given to those who assist. Especially being I am lacking a lot of knowledge.
If anyone is interested, please pm me. If not, I'm sure in due time I will figure it out. I would appreciate any help that anyone is willing to provide. Thank you to our great devs for keeping our devices alive for so long! I am hoping to contribute to the longevity of our devices as well!
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I'll help with whatever I can pm sent
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Ill help as well...ill be ur yoda...
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I'd love to start learning, but seems every time I ask about where to start I get either ignored or told to use Google. Lol
I've got lots of windows knowledge, training, etc. But Linux is like a foreign language.
Where can I look to start playing other than a kitchen, that's not development.
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cbucz24 said:
I'd love to start learning, but seems every time I ask about where to start I get either ignored or told to use Google. Lol
I've got lots of windows knowledge, training, etc. But Linux is like a foreign language.
Where can I look to start playing other than a kitchen, that's not development.
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Google it lmao...jk
Check out google aosp ans github and tge google android developers site. Read some of the guides on here. Start small...work on theming an apk...then modding apks...then system mods...then go to roms. If ur looking for apk dev tgen tgere are sites to help but a lot of that takes a ton of reading with trial and error
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Google it lmao...jk
Check out google aosp ans github and tge google android developers site. Read some of the guides on here. Start small...work on theming an apk...then modding apks...then system mods...then go to roms. If ur looking for apk dev tgen tgere are sites to help but a lot of that takes a ton of reading with trial and error
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:what: lol thanks
I didn't think I was going to read a few paragraphs an be able to build a rom. I took 2 years of c++ and Java, I know how much a hassle coding can be.
So many times I'd click compile and it'd throw 3000+ errors from a comma placement.
At least I got a direction. Thanks papa! I love your mighty smurf! It kicks ass
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cbucz24 said:
:what: lol thanks
I didn't think I was going to read a few paragraphs an be able to build a rom. I took 2 years of c++ and Java, I know how much a hassle coding can be.
So many times I'd click compile and it'd throw 3000+ errors from a comma placement.
At least I got a direction. Thanks papa! I love your mighty smurf! It kicks ass
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If u run into errors hit me on gtalk [email protected]
Ill help where I can
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Mind if I add you on gtalk papa smurf
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Okay, so my main issue is porting a tweaks apk into my rom. I need someone who is willing to collaborate with me on this project. Someone who knows smali and can not only assist but educate. All credit will be shared for the assistance provided. Who's willing to go to work? Will resume working on this project tomorrow night.
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