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I've had the Note 2 now since the release in the UK and all I can say is perfection! The barrery life is the best I have ever had! Normally end day at work still on 80-90% (My One X would be dead!)
It is smooth as silk everything works as it should! Its got the latest software already on there...
Im normally the first to root and custom rom and get rid of everything to keep pure google..but with this I dont even feel like putting on a custom rom simply worried that it may ruin it!??? Anyone else keeping away from modding their device or is it just me??
Yep. Dont see the need so far.
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I can understand you, but I rooted the fcuk out of it as soon as I got it! Too many hexcellent apps out there that demand root
Have to agree.
I've not even bothered rooting it yet, which I'd normally do on day 1, and I'm now on day 8.
I will still root at some point though, mostly for the root only apps though.
Note 2 - Android how it should be done!
Regards,
Dave
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Pure perfection does not exist but like most here I guess there is general concensus that this is truly an amazing device we got. Though to myself how boring something that works as good as that. Anyway I use omega and also perseus kernel lovely if you want to try OC an its limit though its fast enough or even beter under volting and this furthermore seems to show how great the HW is.
Things I just dont like is the high 320 dpi funny on tab 7.7 it was too low now here to big for my taste....so waiting with hope to see changes there dreaming about paranoid with full pen support.....
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I haven't modified or put any custom ROM every in my life and won't do it on my Note II as well.
The simpler it is, the better it is.
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+1 I agree fully, this is the best out of the box Samsung device i ever had. Do not feel the need to root at all, let alone flash a custom rom wich atm adds nothing to what we allready have. Kudoz to Sammy in this case
yep agree, no need for a Custom Rom on this. It has everything you need.
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For the moment I don't think root is necessary (i can live with titanium apps not being restored, can be manually done but without its data).
I think I will root only if development breaks through the split screen multitasking to add more apps into it.
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I rooted it but after using a couple different roms I don't see any need for them. I really only wanted root to be able to remove anything I really didn't need and to be able to use any apps that require root. I might eventually use a custom kernel but that's pretty much it.
I have no desire to root my Note 2 at this time as it does everything I want from it and does so seamlessly.
Once I have my T-Mobile provided Note 2 I may well keep the international/unlocked version to toy with new ROM's and root apps. Selling this unit OTOH puts $$ back in my pocket. To be decided later. My daily carry Note 2 will remain factory stock unless a firmware update reduces its versatility or usability.
I will get my Note2 later today and the first thing i will do is root the baby. If it was only for Adfree Android and some other indispensable applications.
I will see about aftermarket ROM's later. It will depend on the usability. And if I hear you guys talking about I think that won't happen for a while.:laugh:
Rooted 15 minutes after I opened the box. I needed to transfer data from my s3
That's the only thing that is badly needed to this android. Anything else can be avoided even from a flash addict like me. ( a flash my nexus 7 twice a day to keep me sane )
There are some useful mods like skip track , call recording etc. I am with wanam 1.1 and everything looks great.
Rom is a choice for note 2 but root is necessity for android.
Come on, you are in xda , you hold an android device , chainfire already gave root and you want to stay unrooted?
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I have bricked my first Note because of flashing addiction first and because of trying to get rid of some of its shortcomings like slow Contact app scrolling etc.now that the new one adressed all of the issues I was complaining from I didnt even see a need for a root so far, the stock ROM seems to be sufficient enogh.
I root all my devices, usually for AdAway, hate ads when browsing. Titanium backup pro as well for back ups. Usually custom roms and kernels bring user fixes to shortcomings in OEM software.
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Yea this phone is really amazing. My only gripe atm is no polaris office which I was sorta expecting. Hopefully soon they will release it. But having to switch from S3 to Note2 I am really satisfied.
With s3 i had to custom rom it on the first day. With this I dont mind the bloat, cause i still have tons of free memory.
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I rooted mainly to swap ext sd with int sd so I can install more stuff
also i cant live without the 15toggle & titanium
Its still as smooth & stable with root. I think samsung has outdone itself this time. This product is just perfect.
The battery life is awsome. it feels like its twice better then Note1.
I gave my wife my SGS III yesterday and got the Note II. I am loving it, right off the bat it does seem smoother than the S3. With that said, I immediately rooted it and installed Omega. Not so much because it needed it, more because I'm pretty much obsessed with the removal of bloatware and apps that I don't use.
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I rooted mainly to swap ext sd with int sd so I can install more stuff
also i cant live without the 15toggle & titanium
Its still as smooth & stable with root. I think samsung has outdone itself this time. This product is just perfect.
The battery life is awsome. it feels like its twice better then Note1.
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I haven't rooted mine. I was also a ROM addict on the S I and S II.
But with this TW build I don't really see a need yet. It's really good. I know a lot of people prefer the stock experience, but I personally like many of Samsungs additions.
And yeah, battery life is amazing. Not having to worry about battery life at all is probably the greatest feature of this phone.
Well guys I ordered this from Walmart on the 18th and it got to my house today around lunch. It does have some pretty bad light bleed at the 2 bottom corners but if I turn up the brightness it is less noticeable. But I haven't watched a dark HD quality movie like the new batman in a dark room either. Been researching this device for the last few months and was skeptical to get it after hearing so many problems with the screens and the lagging situation in the stock browser and games. I have been rooting and romming phones since my att captivate i897 with the help of everyone here at xda of course and now I want to make my nexus 10 a better experience than what I'm getting out of the box. I know, I know there are tons and tons of threads on here with guys in my exact situation and I need to read,read, and read some more. Plus Google search bar is my friend when it comes to knowledge. I know all this already. What I wanted to know from you nexus 10 owners is this..........
1. Is mskips toolbox the way to go with this device ( I already downloaded it)
2. Are you guys having better results running a custom ROM with clock able kernel to help alleviate the lag issues?
3. Also wanted to know which browser you guys like the best quickness wise and least laggy?
4. I have not installed the update yet either. It says it's ready to install. Should I or are you guys having more issues with 4.2.1?
5. Can I do what I normally do once rooted and take off all the Google bloatware that I don't need with tibu?
Guys I'm really not trying to beat a dead horse and yes I will continue to read everything I possibly can on my situations because (knowledge is power)!
Thanks in advance guys for any tips or advice!
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BTW guys I just wanted to say that I'm sitting in my pitch black garage typing this with the brightness set pretty low and my eyes really don't notice the light bleed that much or maybe it just doesn't bother me that much. I also wanted to say that I'm definitely a nerd when it comes to having the latest devices with the best hardware and I'm happy with my nexus 10. This is my first tablet and I know that the apps designed for this will come eventually. I know the games will too. As of now I think I made a good choice. If the light bleed bothers me enough or I can't fix my lagging situation or waiting for a while sometimes for a page too open like on here the xda app, I can always return it for a refund. I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Sorry for the long rants.
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Best advice....don't do anything (root/ROM) until you've spent a week or more with the tablet stock. Go ahead and take the update, you may want to factory reset after it though to make sure you are sitting on a clean, stock, 4.2.1 system. I've had zero issues with the update...or my tablet.
Play with the tablet, get a feel for the hardware/OS stock and see if you need to (or want to) install a ROM later. Also this gives you a chance to have a base feel for comparison if you do install a ROM later
Make the decision based on your experiences with the tablet and not on what you read here.
So far I've found no uses to Rom It. My S3 is running AOKP only because WiFi Tether and a couple other features...like cpu throttle/battery life. I think I'm going to keep my N10 pretty much stock....but I do have Nova running...pretty smooth and update went smooth as well. It does get frozen from time to time, but a simple reboot fixes it. I
When Freezing occurs or major lag - This is a new device and new O.S. updates will come.
Thank you very much guys for your input. I did use mskips toolbox to unlock,root, and add recovery. Main reason is all the lag I'm experiencing with chrome browser and in games. Want to install AOKP browser. Very smooth compared to chrome. Also wanted to be able to maybe add an overclockable kernel to speed things up a little in gaming. Need for speed most wanted and defense zone 2 HD has horrible Lag. That upsets me too because this thing has awesome internals and I know it can shine at anything I throw at it with just a little help from guys on here at xda. I'll just keep my thoughts to myself because there are enough threads here to complain about what Google and Samsung could have did to make this tablet shine.
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Ocean browser is the way to go. By far the smoothest browser I've seen on android. I used PaulObrien's super boot I think its called to root without unlocking. I did that and then took the official OTA updates. Worked a charm.
440hsp said:
1. Is mskips toolbox the way to go with this device ( I already downloaded it)
2. Are you guys having better results running a custom ROM with clock able kernel to help alleviate the lag issues?
3. Also wanted to know which browser you guys like the best quickness wise and least laggy?
4. I have not installed the update yet either. It says it's ready to install. Should I or are you guys having more issues with 4.2.1?
5. Can I do what I normally do once rooted and take off all the Google bloatware that I don't need with tibu?
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1. Not a big fan of any toolkits; so I don't know (I do stuff manually )
2. Might be placebo, but I've had a better experience in CM 10.1 nightlies than stock; but then again, CM has a more updated Kernel and source (atm)
3. AOSP Chrome isn't too bad either actually (I haven't experienced any of the horror most people seemed to report)
4. Update
5. You can freeze unneeded apps (or just remove them), install adblockers, and get access to certain data files
Thanks espionage724
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Nexus 7 32GB is my first android device. Before I bought it, most people were saying that android is finally smooth, project butter and so on. But that's not the case here. I'm on 4.2.2 stock, have currents sync disabled, my storage is only half full, and my Nexus is starting to get on my nerves.
- screen rotation takes exactly 4 seconds, no exception.
- apps sometimes freeze, forcing me to force close them or even reboot occasionally.
- even some simple games, like Dragonvale, run like stop motion in certain segments.
- when I install ANY app, it seems that android service responsible to put icon on my home screen takes 100% CPU time for 10-15 seconds or so.
- when there are app updates, my nexus is unusable. Takes 10+ seconds for any action.
Say what you want about windows phone, but that thing flies. Am I maybe spoiled by it's buttery smoothness so android by comparison irritates me, or is there really something wrong with my Nexus? I already did hard reset once, early on. It did not help. Should I try again? If so, what backup solution is the easiest?
I know I might be asking a lot and that there are threads about this already, but info is scattered, and there are numerous contradicting opinions and advices. Basically I am just not sure if this is how it's supposed to be, or should I try something.
The lag after installing app is there because of R/W being made to internal memory. App's icons on homescreen are being placed by Play. You can disable it in it's settings. But the rest sounds like a rouge app. Are you sure this lag is there even after fresh system installation?
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Root, get Franco, disable fsync, enjoy.
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Terepin said:
The lag after installing app is there because of R/W being made to internal memory. App's icons on homescreen are being placed by Play. You can disable it in it's settings. But the rest sounds like a rouge app. Are you sure this lag is there even after fresh system installation?
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How do I detect a rouge app? Task manager? Can you recommend one?
It was slow to start with. Disabling currents sync did not help. And I did do reset in the first few days. Did not help.
Now, it's just even more slower. Perhaps by as much as 50% in some actions, if I can put a number on a subjective impression.
Dr.Molestratus said:
Root, get Franco, disable fsync, enjoy.
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Rooted, don't want to mess with kernels and ROMs, what's fsync?
While I'm at it, I rooted with wugfresh rootkit, worked flawlessly, but I can't install adaway. Any thoughts?
d.a.v.o.r said:
Rooted, don't want to mess with kernels and ROMs, what's fsync?
While I'm at it, I rooted with wugfresh rootkit, worked flawlessly, but I can't install adaway. Any thoughts?
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Well if you want better performance... ROMs and kernels are the things to mess with.
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You should probably flash a ROM/kernel for best performance. But if you still don't want to mess with ROMs, reflash the stock rom and reroot it. That's what helped me.
I've had some issues with my phone lagging during/after app update, and i've only recently nailed down the culprit. Turns out it was the Root Uninstaller app that was making backups of older versions of the apps during the update, it ceased after i turned off the option in it's settings (or just uninstall). My guesstimate would be that you have some app that is doing just that. Because my own n7 doesn't noticeably lag even if i try to update many (as much as 10) apps at the same, which usually kills my single-core SGSL into a reboot shortly after trying this.
I think 4.2 is just buggy. It flies for me sometimes and on some devices, and sometimes it crawls horribly. Maybe the next android version will fix this, maybe not
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This helped me a little (If you don't use Currents then this could help)
1. Go to Settings > Apps > All (swipe right 2 times) > Currents
2. Click "Force Stop"
3. Click "Disable"
It should be now fixed for some of it. Like the earlier posts suggest, maybe reflashing stock ROM or installing a kernel (once you're comfortable) will help for sure.
It seems messing with kernels and roms is the best way to do it.
And even though I'm asking this on XDA, I'm not really comfortable with that, especially considering that I've come across the word "bricked" many a times. Especially since I have almost two years of warranty left.
I'll give it a thought and see if I'll go along. It depends how irritating the lag becomes. But by the looks of it, I'll end up with a windows 8/blue tablet next time around, when the next gen silicone from AMD and Intel is ready. I'm much more comfortable with windows environment.
AW: [Q] Is Nexus 7 supposed to be this way? (laggy)
If you're having a lot of apps installed you can get ram problems. Some apps are running in the background even if they don't need to. If you wanna know which apps those are simply go to apps and swipe to the second panel. There you can see which asps are running in the background .You should delete them. If you don't want to do that simply download the app Greenify
(You should have more than 200mb free)
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Entropy generator, I just use pimp my ROM, even on stock rooted.
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I'm on paranoid 2.54 which is 4.1 and it feels faster than cm10.1 I miss 4.2.2 fonts but I'll see If I get it.
BR.
d.a.v.o.r said:
It seems messing with kernels and roms is the best way to do it.
And even though I'm asking this on XDA, I'm not really comfortable with that, especially considering that I've come across the word "bricked" many a times. Especially since I have almost two years of warranty left.
I'll give it a thought and see if I'll go along. It depends how irritating the lag becomes. But by the looks of it, I'll end up with a windows 8/blue tablet next time around, when the next gen silicone from AMD and Intel is ready. I'm much more comfortable with windows environment.
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Get rid of your Nexus and buy a bloody surface then?
In regards to your question, if you've Rooted but cannot install Adaway then it seems you haven't rooted correctly.
This may be the source of your issues.
As explained before, factory reset, re-root and then if you really wanna see it fly take our advice.
A good start is Paranoid Android and Faux123 Kernel (I've been using this combo since I bought my nexus, and yes I've tried other combo's I just can't stay away). Paranoid is an epic ROM, and IMO Faux cannot be beaten. He finds the absolute perfect point between performance and battery !!.
Unless you seriously can't follow directions you won't brick your device. People throw that term around when they are far from bricked. Just make sure you understand the steps of anything you are doing and use good sense. If things go sideways, don't just start doing things blindly. Research the problem you are having, and ask for help if you need it.
But you shouldn't have to run a custom rom to get smooth performance. Like has been suggested I'd go back to stock. Root, and add things back as you need them. See if it runs smooth with only a basic set of apps installed.
Your N7 will be fastest on a custom ROM/kernel. But it should be perfectly usable on a stock setup.
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Wilks3y said:
Get rid of your Nexus and buy a bloody surface then?
In regards to your question, if you've Rooted but cannot install Adaway then it seems you haven't rooted correctly.
This may be the source of your issues.
As explained before, factory reset, re-root and then if you really wanna see it fly take our advice.
A good start is Paranoid Android and Faux123 Kernel (I've been using this combo since I bought my nexus, and yes I've tried other combo's I just can't stay away). Paranoid is an epic ROM, and IMO Faux cannot be beaten. He finds the absolute perfect point between performance and battery !!.
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RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
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Unless you seriously can't follow directions you won't brick your device. People throw that term around when they are far from bricked. Just make sure you understand the steps of anything you are doing and use good sense. If things go sideways, don't just start doing things blindly. Research the problem you are having, and ask for help if you need it.
But you shouldn't have to run a custom rom to get smooth performance. Like has been suggested I'd go back to stock. Root, and add things back as you need them. See if it runs smooth with only a basic set of apps installed.
Your N7 will be fastest on a custom ROM/kernel. But it should be perfectly usable on a stock setup.
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Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.
d.a.v.o.r said:
RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.
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It honestly shouldn't lag like that. Even bone stock.
One thing you can do right away is go into developer settings (click 7 times on Build Number in About Tablet to enable) and change all animation settings to.5 or to none.
DL Root Checker, or just try to use any root app to see if you actually do have root. Even with the wonderful toolkits (which will also save your bacon if you get into a bootloop) getting root to stick can be tricky...you may have to run it a couple of times.
But the best results will come if you flash a custom rom and kernel. if you like a tweaked stock experience, try CleanRom Inheritance. It uses the Aroma installer, so it's very easy and customizable. It can be found under Android Development.
d.a.v.o.r said:
RT is a joke, and PRO is too expensive and has awful battery life. I'll wait and see how temash and baytrail turn out to be. But that's besides the point, since I'll still keep nexus as an ultra-mobile device.
In any case, can I backup all the data, reset, and get EVERYTHING back, or will I need to do something manually? I'll definitely try to reset/re-root.
But I don't see what I did wrong. I mean, I can install every app on the market that requires root
Ok, I'll try it. First with reset.
But also, my nexus is usable, it's just not pleasant to use.
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You can use titanium backup. It there others like carbon. But titanium has been around the longest and it's my preferred way. Requires root, and it should warn you at start up if you aren't rooted correctly.
I would do as others suggested and just restore basic apps after factory reboot and re root. Then slowly restore others to see if you notice other problems along the way.
Also, if you didn't know. You can install kernels without wiping tablet and changing the whole Rom. I would definitely try that eventually too.
One more thing to note. Don't judge android on chrome (not that you mentioned it, but I know a lot of newbies have). It's one of the slowest browsers. It has tons of great features which I love, but do slow compared to most others. I wish I wasn't so addicted to its syncing.
Thanks to everyone on advices.
1) root checker says I do not have proper root. Now that I think about it, I did update my Nexus 7 from 4.2.1 to 4.2.2. I guess that also removed root.
2) I will reset. I don't really have any messages or photos or app data that is not already in the cloud that I need to backup.
3) I'll try to gradually install everything app by app to see if it's a rouge app.
4) I'll than revive this thread with my results. Though I doubt I'll get to doing all that in the next few days.
Again, thanks everyone!
just ordered my note 10.1 yesterday. should be here next week!
i have an s3, and i just updated it to the latest version of AOKP.
of course i'll be rooting it but i was wondering if anyone thought the tradeoff to using a different rom was worth it. i got the note for work (mainly notes and powerpoints) so i'd hate to not be able to use any of the features that really set it apart from other android tablets!
My personal experience left me inclined to stay with a touchwiz based custom ROM, some extra power and flexibility without losing anything. CM and AOKP are nice as always, but on this particular tablet I really find features like multi window, smart stay and air view to be well worth their weight. There's a growing selection of roms that retain all of the Note's features. I really liked Android revolution a lot, am currently on Collective edition. You can even enable all apps to multi window, which is just savvy!
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My personal experience left me inclined to stay with a touchwiz based custom ROM, some extra power and flexibility without losing anything. CM and AOKP are nice as always, but on this particular tablet I really find features like multi window, smart stay and air view to be well worth their weight. I really liked Android revolution a lot, am currently on Collective edition. You can even enable all apps to multi window, which is just savvy!
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That's what I was thinking. It'd be a shame to go vanilla and lose all the features I paid extra for! I'll check out some touchwiz based ones then.
Yep, I Cant Understand Why People Pay Premium $$$ then Go Vanilla Android And Loose All those Features They Bought The Note For In The 1st Place.... Each To Their Own...
Just Be Aware Too, Because Of All The Tweaks And Things Running In The Background You Might Find Your Battery Draining A Lot Faster... At Least, That Was My Experience. Went Back To Stock Rooted And Battery Lasts Longer...
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Yep, I Cant Understand Why People Pay Premium $$$ then Go Vanilla Android And Loose All those Features They Bought The Note For In The 1st Place.... Each To Their Own...
Just Be Aware Too, Because Of All The Tweaks And Things Running In The Background You Might Find Your Battery Draining A Lot Faster... At Least, That Was My Experience. Went Back To Stock Rooted And Battery Lasts Longer...
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+1
I'm thinking I'll do the same thing I did with my phone: wait minimum 2 weeks before I start messing around. That way I have a good base to judge things like battery life compared to stock.
Thanks for the advice everyone! My Note should arrive on Monday!
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Just an FYI, if you do root it make sure to run triangle away to reset the flash Counter.
Heh okay. I never did that with my S3! I probably should then.
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I bought this tablet for the Wacom technology and s-pen, combined with the excellent hardware. All of that is perfectly fine in AOSP. Palm rejection, s-pen support, etc.
I did not buy this tablet to have multi view, but I can see where that would be a non-negotiable.
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I'm sure at some point I'll experiment with an AOSP rom. I always wind up back at those...
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That's what I was thinking. It'd be a shame to go vanilla and lose all the features I paid extra for! I'll check out some touchwiz based ones then.
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I tried "Android Revolution HD" and "Omega" ROM, both are very nice and are touchwiz modified roms.
You should check them out.
Android Revolution HD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2119547
Omega
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2131474
One or both of them may use Aroma installer so may want to stick to Zedomax "HighOnAndroids CWM".
Zedomax also has a post "How to ROOT Galaxy Note 10.1" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831152
And here is one of his many .coms that he has that has an embeded step by step video on how to root you note 10.1, his root method includes CWM that does work with Android Revolution HD and Omega ROMs. http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-note-10-1-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-10-1-easiest-methodcwmmethod-2/
TIP: I download the video of Zedomax root process onto my computer along with the files needed to root so I have them all in one place.
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Whoa! Thanks!!
Just Be Aware That Because Of The Tweaks Done To These Roms Your Battery Use May Be More....
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Just Be Aware That Because Of The Tweaks Done To These Roms Your Battery Use May Be More....
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Completely opposite to my experience..
Most of the roms remove many bloatware apps and battery life improve
Thats been my experience as well. My S3 is way better on AOKP.
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It Is So Annoying To Read Posts With Every Word Capitalized! Ugh Is It You Or Your Keyboard Settings?
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It Is So Annoying To Read Posts With Every Word Capitalized! Ugh Is It You Or Your Keyboard Settings?
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+1 - It Must Be The Custom ROM He's Using; Perhaps The Keyboard Is Broken In It
Kidding aside though, normally I only deal with AOSP-capable devices, but you have to admit that the TW version (and features) we have on the Note 10.1 are pretty nice- so I'm using ROMs that are as close to Stock as possible (namely, Darkman's ROMs and lately AR HD 5.0).
Also, most complaints about "bloatware" are completely unfounded and appear to come from users who read not-quite-fully-understood posts on forums like these. I've never used Crayon Whatever-it's-called nor the Music Hub, and the effect of either is negligible. They don't take up much in the way of storage either (esp. on devices with at least 11GB of free space out of the box).
Actually it's the stock rom for Australia... Was using my note to post... Samsung seem to have a bug in JB they released for us poor buggers down here. Only real problem with the stock rom though...:silly::laugh:
Not gonna complain too much though, It took them long enough to release it...
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Just an FYI, if you do root it make sure to run triangle away to reset the flash Counter.
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im a little confused about this flash counter. i just rooted and what not and was checking out triangle away. but not sure its purpose? does something happen if the count gets too high? or is it just for warranty purposes... ?
panda-man said:
I'm a little confused about this flash counter. i just rooted and what not and was checking out triangle away, but not sure of its purpose? Does something happen if the count gets too high or is it just for warranty purposes?
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99% of the time its being used it's to keep the All-Share Cast Dongle working, which (due to DRM reasons) won't run if the flash counter is greater than 0. It really doesn't affect anything else, AFAIK.
hi!
So I can upgrade to Note 3 for about $150 and would like to know, how the experience has been for you guys.
Coming from Rom and kernel flashing addiction I might feel a bit trapped with note 3 but then again, with so much power, OCing may not be as exciting as it was on Note 2 to run MAME reloaded for example or some higher end games.
Thanks for any comments.
Regards
I had note 2 and now note 3. Used to run clean rom on note 2 and loved it. After upgraded to note 3, I realized that I don't need any custom rom or kernel on this phone. It's perfect with just rooted, debloated and wanam exposed. Everything I want the phone to be and very happy with it.
That being said, I still do miss flashing custom rom though. Hope near future, we can get unlocked bootloader
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Only thing I miss is playing around with OC'ing. Not really necessary on the 3. Really was not necessary on the 2 either.
Non of the ROM's could compare to the stock debloated ROM on the note 2 for battery life (they were close), and I would expect similar results if we were to get the boot loader unlocked. The difference was small so the features/benefits of a custom ROM far outweighed staying stock.
With root and xposed modules on the note 3, don't see the need to flash a custom ROM. A custom kernel would be nice though that would allow Playing with clock speeds and the like.
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I agree with what everyone said. I remember you from the Note 2 threads, and I know you were in the kernel threads quite a bit helping people out and maxing out your Note 2, lol.
I honestly don't see any lag whatsoever with rooting, debloating, and using wanam exposed like the guys above mentioned. I never even used xposed installer or wanam until I got the note 3. I'm actually surprised I never tried it on the Note 2. It's very useful. I guess I never had to considering I was always flashing roms and themes that took care of the customizations.
$150 is worth the upgrade in my honest opinion. I'm sure somewhere somehow a bootloader unlock is around the corner in some computer genius's lair, lol. Despite that, you won't be disappointed with the stock. I use Nova Launcher and customized my DPI with xposed and rom toolbox lite. Really makes everything look great to me. Everything works just like on my Note 2, even flash. Just make a titanium backup of your Note 2 for your apps and make sure that folder is on your sdcard, then transfer that folder to your sdcard and your phone memory, and you're good to restore. Unless you prefer starting fresh, up to you. I restored my Nova launcher preferences with the apps quite easily to keep the same look. So it wasn't a big change for me visually except a much crisper screen. The camera is amazing. I've taken 4K video and it's just great. Battery life is solid too despite being stock. It also is lighter than the Note 2 so that's a plus as well.
Thanks all guys. I am close to pulling the trigger now. It was not in my mind because my biggest wish was a 6" screen but for $150, it is more tempting now
shaolin95 said:
Thanks all guys. I am close to pulling the trigger now. It was not in my mind because my biggest wish was a 6" screen but for $150, it is more tempting now
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As long as you can root it (I found the MI9 de la vega files archived on other sites), I find the N3 much superior to the N2. Better screen (much better outdoors), better in-hand feel, better S-view cover and back material, and about the same battery life (though that's a custom ROM N2 vs. stock ROM N3).
For me, rooting is needed to lower the dpi to an appropriate value as the stock 480 wastes so much of the screen. If I had to pick between a customized N2 and a totally stock N3, that'd be a harder decision for me.
One other oddity I've found is that many of the videos that played fine on HW decoding on my Note 2 require SW decoding on the Note 3 (mostly for sound, but sometimes for video as well). Not a big deal as the quality is the same and the Note 3 has power to spare, but just a bit odd.
The occasional security prevention message is annoying, but it's easy enough to long press, clear data, and have it disappear for a while. Generally comes back after a reboot and I have to do the above again.
Like mutantblack, I use to have note 2 with Clean Rom. Never needed a rom but Clean Rom was simply awesome. It saved me a lot of time debloating. Now with note 3, root+wanam+xposed is like Clean Rom all over again.
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As long as you can root it (I found the MI9 de la vega files archived on other sites), I find the N3 much superior to the N2. Better screen (much better outdoors), better in-hand feel, better S-view cover and back material, and about the same battery life (though that's a custom ROM N2 vs. stock ROM N3).
For me, rooting is needed to lower the dpi to an appropriate value as the stock 480 wastes so much of the screen. If I had to pick between a customized N2 and a totally stock N3, that'd be a harder decision for me.
One other oddity I've found is that many of the videos that played fine on HW decoding on my Note 2 require SW decoding on the Note 3 (mostly for sound, but sometimes for video as well). Not a big deal as the quality is the same and the Note 3 has power to spare, but just a bit odd.
The occasional security prevention message is annoying, but it's easy enough to long press, clear data, and have it disappear for a while. Generally comes back after a reboot and I have to do the above again.
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Hey man I'm gonna take it from your post your rooted...Just download root app delete from the play store...Open it up...Go into system apps...and disable all 4 Knox apps...Once they're disabled those messages will dissappear...
As to the op...I still have my att note 2 and now have att note 3...The biggest improvements for me are the camera, which is so much better than note 2 in terms of clarity, speed, and color reproduction it's amazing...2nd is the s pen finally has the precision and feel of true writing...lastly is the experience of tw; on note 2 I found I needed apex launcher and many rooted customizations to make the note 2 perform how I felt it should given its already great hardware. With note 3 I still run apex occasionally but love the improved tw experience, lag free, fast, and clean on note 3
What I miss of note 2, the battery life. The batter life on my Note 2 was astounding. With note 3 I find I only get about 3 to 4 hours of on screen time vs 5 to 5.5 hours on note 2. But this can be remedied with another backup batter and for all the note 3 offers in terms of speed, gorgeous 1080 screen, and features galore it's an easy tradeoff.
So summing up, note 2 was a major bump over note 1, but note 3 set a new standard in my eyes for what a super phone is. Note 3 hands down...and in time I feel well have some form of cwm and romming but maybe not at the level of note 2, though as others have mentioned it's really not necessary anymore. Samsung hit it outta the park with note 3.
Mega
Remember you can always buy a T-mobie note 3 and run it on ATT AMD then you can still flash your Roms and kernels. You could get your ATT upgrade then sell that for a T-Mobile device, that's what I did.
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The stock rom runs better than a few custom roms,.... However we do not have custom kernels nor can we flash different ROM due to the boot loader being locked. In my opinion the phone is a lot snappier smooth here and the screen is a helluva lot better. Remote control features amazin and the battery is even better than my note 2. However route is a must and either the leading or freezing the extra bloatware is necessary to achieve such performance
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I had note 2 and now note 3. Used to run clean rom on note 2 and loved it. After upgraded to note 3, I realized that I don't need any custom rom or kernel on this phone. It's perfect with just rooted, debloated and wanam exposed. Everything I want the phone to be and very happy with it.
That being said, I still do miss flashing custom rom though. Hope near future, we can get unlocked bootloader
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Yes yes and yes agreed with that I upgraded and paided for the full 750 I know I know lol but I think it was worth it here's a couple of more things to Note
1. The screen is drop dead gorgeous!! Omfg I love this screen!!
2.Its faster "duh"
3.The camrea is very good too!! Love the camera )
4. Same battery life "CANT WAIT for ZeroLemon and case!!
Its up to you but yes I think its worth enough
As a former note2 owner who bought the note3 on release day, I think it boils down to how important flashing custom roms is to you. I have my note3 rooted and really debloated and it is running awesome. And I thought that would be good enough for me. But last week I bought an LGG2 so that I could continue flashing and tweaking stuff. Even though this phone is the perfect hardware I am really irritated that I am not allowed to choose what software to run on it. So tomorrow when the g2 arrives this phone will probably go into a desk drawer or to one of my kids until someone can resolve the custom recovery issue.
But this is a hobby for me. Im the guy who installs whatever the latest distro of Linux came out this month and I rarely have a machine running the same distro longer than 90 days. ..so im kind of a freak like that.
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How did you get the 150 upgrade offer?
Sorry it was not an offer, I was calculating selling mine and getting a used note 3.
Note 2 with cm 11 kit kat was awsome. Daughter broke phone and insurance sent the 3. Sucks with locked bootloader.
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With Xposed, Wanam, Safe Strap, Apex or other decent launcher and a Kit Kat theme or two there REALLY isnt a need for custom roms. The Note 3 can have pretty much any system mod and tweak any rom would bring and you wont lose the IR Blaster support thats built in and Safe Strap allows you the capability to backup the current state before tweaking.
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I ended up going a different way after all as you can see on my sig. Maybe Note 4 but I am getting so used to the huge Xperia Z Ultra that not sure anymore.