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Hi, I just got my phone today and the sales man was saying something about training the battery but I was joning on the phone so much I didn't actually hear him. So I think it's you completely drain it until it shuts down and then, do you charge it as it's off or can I turn it on and charge it? How many times do I repeat this? Is this all I need to do. Thanks people!
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Hi, I just got my phone today and the sales man was saying something about training the battery but I was joning on the phone so much I didn't actually hear him. So I think it's you completely drain it until it shuts down and then, do you charge it as it's off or can I turn it on and charge it? How many times do I repeat this? Is this all I need to do. Thanks people!
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Why did you post this topic in multiple forms ? This has been answered in other forum
I am sure this is for galaxy s3
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I bought a new Battery some time ago the selling guy explained how to do it BEST:
It's all about the first 3 loads which are essential for the whole life of the battery!
load it until it's full in switched off state (only the first time) and wait until there's shown "100%" in the big Battery picture when you push home button (still in switched off state). Then it's at 4200mV
IMPORTANT: do not unpluguntil it's really full!!! (That's the most important, as the ions only are "pushed" straight in the "right direction" if you don't interrupt charging.)
boot the phone and let it drain to zero without plugging charger (or USB-cable)! Means until pone shuts down itself. Plug the charger then and boot the phone or not - doesn't matter
First 3 rounds from 4200 to 0 "mV" without any charging. Means until pone shuts down itself.
after three loads keep the accumulator between ~40 and ~90 % of load. That' best for a long life.
generally it doesn't matter if phone is on/off for charging and it does not matter how often you plug the charger. Of course I wouldn't do that every five minutes....
Sorry for my bad technical English...
For those who have bad battery life first charge your phone fully while on then turn phone off...plug the phone back into charger while it's off it will be a red light charge until green sometimes it takes another 20 mins .When done turn phone on and plug charger in again it will drop to 99% when 100 plug out now u have a fully calibrated battery..I am on the new firmware btw
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HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid
What do you basr yourself on for this??
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gemini002 said:
For those who have bad battery life first charge your phone fully while on then turn phone off...plug the phone back into charger while it's off it will be a red light charge until green sometimes it takes another 20 mins .When done turn phone on and plug charger in again it will drop to 99% when 100 plug out now u have a fully calibrated battery..I am on the new firmware btw
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i call BS lol this has been around since the htc hero days
CheesyNutz said:
i call BS lol this has been around since the htc hero days
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Actually it's not b.s I noticed that around 80% my phone would drop down quickly to 70% and 30% would drop 3% instead of 1 so I did this method knowing that my battery was not fully charged.since I have done this no more quick drops...instead of saying b.s why not try it first then come to a conclusion smh
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I can vouch for this ...I am only trying to help those who gave bad battery drain...we do flash a lot on xda sometimes **** happens
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid
Instead of clowing u guys should try it..listen phone says fully charged for some but in reality it is not it will rapidly drop for example 90% but drops to 79% rapidly or drops 3% for no reason while screen is on is due to battery not fully calibrated/charged ..This happens from flashing roms sometimes this happens if you have battery issues try this method ..
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I used this method a couple of years ago on my DHD. It made a huge difference! i forgot all about this. I'll do it again later.
Thanks, I had a feeling the calibration was a little off since the phone shuts down at around 5%, let's see what happens.
Yeah, I do this on my galaxy note and sometinmes on my new one.
When 100,% through normal charging turn phone off and begin charge again. It will charge just that bit further.
One thing the note does better is thaat when off and charging you get a battery indicator on screen, not so with the one.
WhatsAUsername said:
I'm pretty sure the only way to get a full battery charge is to hold the phone upside down in your right hand, put your left hand on the back, and spin in 3 circles, counter clockwise. You must then quickly plug the charger (within 1 second), and spin the phone around the cable 3 times, in a clockwise direction this time. Only then can you ever hope to have a fully charged battery.
I can vouch for this. :good:
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Man that's total bull...... only 2 circles required
To be real for a minute if I may..... if you monitor the current draw by the phone when charging you will see that when the green led lights the phone is still pulling 60-70mA from the charger so it's still charging and can take a while longer for that draw to fall to 0mA. At this point it's fully charged.
Charging it as the OP suggests does actually allow this extra top up.
I actually think this does help with proper calibration a bit. Not sure why people are acting like children here.
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The topic of batteries makes people go crazy for some reason. I will toss in my own 2 cents, the thread title talks about improving battery "life". In this case we seem to be talking about "battery life per charge cycle" and people should just be aware seeking improvement in this area usually comes at the expense of a different kind of battery life, ie "battery life per phone".
I personally am one of those who is a little irritated by the non-replaceable battery on the One because I intend to keep the phone for many years. This applies to almost nobody else I realize, but for me this thread is a helpful summary of the exact steps I need to *avoid* if I want to get the longest lifetime (measured in years, not minutes) out of the battery.
NxNW said:
The topic of batteries makes people go crazy for some reason. I will toss in my own 2 cents, the thread title talks about improving battery "life". In this case we seem to be talking about "battery life per charge cycle" and people should just be aware seeking improvement in this area usually comes at the expense of a different kind of battery life, ie "battery life per phone".
I personally am one of those who is a little irritated by the non-replaceable battery on the One because I intend to keep the phone for many years. This applies to almost nobody else I realize, but for me this thread is a helpful summary of the exact steps I need to *avoid* if I want to get the longest lifetime (measured in years, not minutes) out of the battery.
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What's wrong with turning the phone off every once in a while and letting it charge up fully?
NxNW said:
The topic of batteries makes people go crazy for some reason. I will toss in my own 2 cents, the thread title talks about improving battery "life". In this case we seem to be talking about "battery life per charge cycle" and people should just be aware seeking improvement in this area usually comes at the expense of a different kind of battery life, ie "battery life per phone".
I personally am one of those who is a little irritated by the non-replaceable battery on the One because I intend to keep the phone for many years. This applies to almost nobody else I realize, but for me this thread is a helpful summary of the exact steps I need to *avoid* if I want to get the longest lifetime (measured in years, not minutes) out of the battery.
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I only needed to do it once...for regular charging I recommend charging while off then plug it out turn on and charge will drop to 99% when plugged in charge until light is green..or you can charge normal after this point your battery stats should be good
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Arcadia310 said:
What's wrong with turning the phone off every once in a while and letting it charge up fully?
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gemini002 said:
I only needed to do it once...for regular charging I recommend charging while off then plug it out turn on and charge will drop to 99% when plugged in charge until light is green..or you can charge normal after this point your battery stats should be good
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actually i'm totally cool with doing this procedure every once in a while as a way to just what it says, get a few extra minutes of battery life. hell, if very precise runtime estimates are important to you and this helps calibrate that, great. i'm all for that too. i actually *have* tried something like this and my phone didnt die and i'm sure i got a little extra run time that day.
i just wouldn't do it *every* day.
one of the findings in another thread around here (something about battery "health") was the battery ages quicker at higher voltages such as those used towards the end of the charging cycle. if you are willing to constrain yourself to charging the phone to *less* than 80% capacity (ie the opposite of what this thread is about) you will double the useful life of the actual LiOn (or LiPolymer or whatever) material in the phone.
that is all. not trying to discourage anyone from *ever* doing this procedure, just explaining why i actually strive to do the opposite most of the time.
carry on.
Known fact... it is impractical to FULLY charge up a battery while is is in use (hence, being drained). Plain and simple physics at work here and I can vouch for this based on the many years I worked in the Navy charging, repairing, replacing, and rebuilding naval vessel batteries. Granted these are not huge deep cycle batteries but the charging principles are the same.
As as matter of fact, just did the method the OP was kind enough to suggest to us and it worked like a charm. Noticed a higher mv reading on my battery! Not much but I will take it. Who would have figured on that...
+Thanks to OP for bringing this up.
EDIT: For the record, I would normally reach 4310-4313mV... after this I am reaching +4335mV - Not much but I'll take it.
veritasxe said:
Thanks, I had a feeling the calibration was a little off since the phone shuts down at around 5%, let's see what happens.
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That's only because fast boot is most probably enabled...
Kahbrohn said:
Known fact... it is impractical to FULLY charge up a battery while is is in use (hence, being drained). Plain and simple physics at work here and I can vouch for this based on the many years I worked in the Navy charging, repairing, replacing, and rebuilding naval vessel batteries. Granted these are not huge deep cycle batteries but the charging principles are the same.
As as matter of fact, just did the method the OP was kind enough to suggest to us and it worked like a charm. Noticed a higher mv reading on my battery! Not much but I will take it. Who would have figured on that...
+Thanks to OP for bringing this up.
EDIT: For the record, I would normally reach 4310-4313mV... after this I am reaching +4335mV - Not much but I'll take it.
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Ahhhh vindication ...
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As fun as it is to mock, this most likely does work. HTC seem to be pretty bad at making battery algorithms, never found myself having to do this on the galaxy nexus or nexus 4. But my battery drops to 85 darn fast now and I'm pretty sure this will help. I remember this was helpful on the desire and desire HD too.
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A lot of people say this is merely a placebo effect, but I agree that it works very well for me with my device.
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I need some suggestions on how to calibrate the battery on my n4. It got miscalibrated when I did the update 4.2 to 4.3 and I haven't been able to calibrate it since then, a week ago.
I tried using battery calibration from the store but it didn't work, I tried charging the phone from 0 to 100 and it didn't work.
I remember I had the same problem 2 years ago with my Atrix and I solved it by wiping the battery stats from recovery, but now twrp and Cwm removed this feature and I don't know how to solve my problem.
Maybe it would help flashing all back to stock with the toolkit?
If you have any suggestions I'd really appreciate it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1460553
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1460553
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Just the answer I didn't expected, and frankly a pretty useless answer, everybody knows that battery calibration doesn't improve battery life.
But I have other problems, like I turn off my device at 80% and when I turn it on it's at 77%. Do you think that's normal?
Elwood_It said:
Just the answer I didn't expected, and frankly a pretty useless answer, everybody knows that battery calibration doesn't improve battery life.
But I have other problems, like I turn off my device at 80% and when I turn it on it's at 77%. Do you think that's normal?
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Either faulty battery or do the following:
1.Completley discharge N4
2.Charge fully(+2 hours after hitting 100&) WITHOUT disconnecting from the charger.
3.Repeat for better results.
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failly said:
Either faulty battery or do the following:
1.Completley discharge N4
2.Charge fully(+2 hours after hitting 100&) WITHOUT disconnecting from the charger.
3.Repeat for better results.
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Thanks for the answer. Should I carghe while it's off or on or it doesn't matter?
Elwood_It said:
Thanks for the answer. Should I carghe while it's off or on or it doesn't matter?
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To be honest, I don't know.
But if I would be you I would just let it charge while it's off(So the big ass white battery icon).
Let me know if you got your battery sorted after the method I posted!
Elwood_It said:
Just the answer I didn't expected, and frankly a pretty useless answer, everybody knows that battery calibration doesn't improve battery life.
But I have other problems, like I turn off my device at 80% and when I turn it on it's at 77%. Do you think that's normal?
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You mean off as in all the way off? If so, then that ~3% is being used when the phone boots.
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You mean off as in all the way off? If so, then that ~3% is being used when the phone boots.
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I've had many phones, and none of them lost charge during the boot, at least not that many. I think that's the clear sign of battery miscalibration, I've had this problem before with another phone. Besides that, I've had a strange behaviour of the battery, for example I saw it lose 4% in 1 second, from 66 to 62 in a blink of an eye.
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I've had many phones, and none of them lost charge during the boot, at least not that many. I think that's the clear sign of battery miscalibration, I've had this problem before with another phone. Besides that, I've had a strange behaviour of the battery, for example I saw it lose 4% in 1 second, from 66 to 62 in a blink of an eye.
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It's not that it's losing charge quickly, it's just the OS (or the hardware itself) doesn't always do the best job of reading it. There's not much you can do about that, and it's really not an issue unless you make it so by staring at your battery level all day.
korockinout13 said:
It's not that it's losing charge quickly, it's just the OS (or the hardware itself) doesn't always do the best job of reading it. There's not much you can do about that, and it's really not an issue unless you make it so by staring at your battery level all day.
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Hi,
I'm having a similar issue. Phone rebooting to weird battery levels (not the %age it shutdown at).
Phone shutting down at 31% battery and rebooting to 0%.
I tried charging only to 100% yesterday with the phone ON.
Do I have to charge it even after it's charged to 100%?
failly said:
To be honest, I don't know.
But if I would be you I would just let it charge while it's off(So the big ass white battery icon).
Let me know if you got your battery sorted after the method I posted!
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I tried charging through the night and then discharging it completely and charging it completely again. I also tried deleting the batterystats file (even though I know it doesn't do anything)
So what do you suggest I should do? Get the phone replaced or get the battery changed?
I live in India and the phone is from Canada, so replacing the phone will take some time but I can get the battery replaced for around $20
Also my nexus is also showing +ve mA values while it's not charging, and the values are absolutely crazy, +268, +168, +1171 (in batter monitor widget)
Please tell me what I should do.
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I tried charging through the night and then discharging it completely and charging it completely again. I also tried deleting the batterystats file (even though I know it doesn't do anything)
So what do you suggest I should do? Get the phone replaced or get the battery changed?
I live in India and the phone is from Canada, so replacing the phone will take some time but I can get the battery replaced for around $20
Also my nexus is also showing +ve mA values while it's not charging, and the values are absolutely crazy, +268, +168, +1171 (in batter monitor widget)
Please tell me what I should do.
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Before you replace the battery try to disconnect the battery's flex cable and reconnect it [after you charge to device to 100% and turn it off of course] check if its 'reset' the battery.
Wherever I charge my Note 3 fully, even if I leave it on for extra 30 mins, unplug charger and reboot the phone, phone comes on to 98%. Even when I charge full and just unplug, it drains to 98% on idle in 20 to 30 mins. Whenever it gets to 98% then it stops draining. I believe I need to recalibrate?
I have tried everything I can but to no avail! Every good re calibration app with super reviews! Still nothing! Even Manual recalibration and FULL WIPE (Including Internal SD), tried total drain to 0% and switched off itself too.
Need suggestions. Cheers!
the battery will charge to 100% then turn off and allow the device to go down to about 95% before recharging back up. It stops you from overcharging your battery and destroying it, there is no drama with your battery from what you describe mine does exactly the same thing on both devices I have had
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the battery will charge to 100% then turn off and allow the device to go down to about 95% before recharging back up. It stops you from overcharging your battery and destroying it, there is no drama with your battery from what you describe mine does exactly the same thing on both devices I have had
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I understand u very well, but it just seems off! Because going down to 98% without even 'touching' the phone, NO WAKELOCKS, nothing serious enough at least... And it wasn't always this way. Just started about a month ago or so. My S2, S3, and S4 never did like so... But thanks for your time bro!
Nothing to worry. It's all ok man.
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Even mine does the same, not sure though why.
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deadlyheart4u said:
Nothing to worry. It's all ok man.
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sachingopalkrishnan said:
Even mine does the same, not sure though why.
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Thank you bhai! But, do you think it's MJ7 firmware? Battery is not as good as MI2, and earlier. And can you we flash MJ6 over MJ7? Since both have the new bootloader, it should work fine yes?
Mine does the same! 98% limit.
I get 10hrs usage before recharging again. :good:
Stop being so anal - . Battery will drop slightly, mine does it, as do many others in this thread. 100% to 98% is nothing. It's usually after 90% that you start to see the real battery life anyway.
radicalisto said:
Stop being so anal - . Battery will drop slightly, mine does it, as do many others in this thread. 100% to 98% is nothing. It's usually after 90% that you start to see the real battery life anyway.
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Thats a Rude comment!!
Respect everyone, if you think you know all the answers then you should not be here!!
He asked about his battery % and we try to explain....stop dirty words in forums!!
deom2i said:
Thats a Rude comment!!
Respect everyone, if you think you know all the answers then you should not be here!!
He asked about his battery % and we try to explain....stop dirty words in forums!!
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Do you understand words have more than one meaning? - In this instance you "seem" to think that the term anal is used in a sexual context. Whether it's a miscomunication in language/Lost in translation or you are just too stupid/naive to realise.. I do not know. - So think before you start crying in a thread next time. A word you may say in your country may offend many here also -
-- As for the battery percentage question, I gave an answer for that, so stop being anal about it.
What you said is same as saying dont be an a**hole!! And second dont refer other people as being stupid/native just because you know 1 or 2 things!
About the battery % it isnt a problem. Its normal system fuction it happens to everyone including me. And I get 10hrs of use with single charge.
What didnt u understand, mr.Smart?!!
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Do you understand words have more than one meaning? - In this instance you "seem" to think that the term anal is used in a sexual conext. Whether it's a miscomunication in language/Lost in translation or you are just too stupid/naive to realise.. I do not know. - So think before you start crying in a thread next time. A word you may say in your country may offend many here also -
-- As for the battery percentage question, I gave an answer for that, so stop being anal about it.
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Well, if there was any misunderstanding in your previous post this one cleared everything up. lol
Well played sir.
deom2i said:
What you said is same as saying dont be an a**hole!! And second dont refer other people as being stupid/native just because you know 1 or 2 things!
About the battery % it isnt a problem. Its normal system fuction it happens to everyone including me. And I get 10hrs of use with single charge.
What didnt u understand, mr.Smart?!!
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Calling someone anal does not constitute the same as saying someone as you put it "an a**hole!!" - I never called you stupid or "native" (Naive is what I said) I merely stated I didn't know if you were either of these you implied otherwise... I never claimed to know anything, So your point is moot. (Google it if you're stuck)
for the record ---
Noun
1.
anal personality - (psychoanalysis) a personality characterized by meticulous neatness and suspicion and reserve; said to be formed in early childhood by fixation during the anal stage of development (usually as a consequence of toilet training)
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Now do me a favour and give up, Cause you're boring me.
-- Again with the battery situation, it's perfectly normal, It seems this subject has been hijacked by someone who has obviously got lost in translation and has disctracted the thread.
Stay away from Battery calibration Apps, they can play havoc with your phone also, at first they work but they always have a tendancy to mess up at some point.
Unless your battery is draining at a crazy speed I wouldn't worry too much. - You should be getting about 15-20 hours with an average of 3-4hrs screen time out of the devce with moderate use.
Sorry i mean stupid/naive not native.
Mate, there is no need for all these...
If im boring dont reply.
Next time try to explain without putting anyword to show or trying to make people feel stupid. This is my point.
We arent in english gLass and the thread is worldwide, just get to the point and move on.
Just that.
My battery is okay...I get 10hr of heavy use. 3g and bluetooth always on. My s3 had only 6hrs of heavy usage.
I dont complain of battery draining is normal for my usage.
Im also checking the wakelocks and batt consumption at night. Still in progress.
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So moving on, you get a solid 10 hours with heavy use currently? - how is your consumption at night? - mine drops about 5% over a period of about 7-8 hrs roughly.
I average around 25 hrs currently with moderate use and WiFi on all the time
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My Note 3 also drops from 100% to 98% very quickly even with no use of the phone.It also seems to drop to the low 90% range very quickly but then it settles down and battery life is excellent.Surfing the web seems to use more power than watching videos.I lose about 3 to 4% overnight.
I noticed my battery discharge faster after upgrading to latest MJ7 firmware. Before the update, my battery lasted very long. Hopefully samsung release a small update fix on this battery bug.
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This has been driving me nuts for ages, and now I just use the battery to transfer my phone from one charger to another! But to be honest I haven't tried anything to fix it as yet.
It started with my phone shutting down when I took a few photos - now, if my phone gets down to 80% I expect it to shutdown. It won't fire back up until I put it on charge.
Occasionally when I try to turn it back on, it wont fire up, and the blue LED comes on and stays on until I charge it or take the battery out.
Occasionally it will reach 50%, but that would be a rare occasion! I do still have the original battery, which is now over two years old.
It's a great phone - if only the battery would last longer than 10 minutes under use! It hasn't been rooted or anything - it is as I got it from new.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
TIA
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I do still have the original battery, which is now over two years old.
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A new battery is really cheap ( 15-25 usds) and probably would solve your problem.
There is no reason for this topic unless you have the original battery.
magicdrshoon said:
This has been driving me nuts for ages, and now I just use the battery to transfer my phone from one charger to another! But to be honest I haven't tried anything to fix it as yet.
It started with my phone shutting down when I took a few photos - now, if my phone gets down to 80% I expect it to shutdown. It won't fire back up until I put it on charge.
Occasionally when I try to turn it back on, it wont fire up, and the blue LED comes on and stays on until I charge it or take the battery out.
Occasionally it will reach 50%, but that would be a rare occasion! I do still have the original battery, which is now over two years old.
It's a great phone - if only the battery would last longer than 10 minutes under use! It hasn't been rooted or anything - it is as I got it from new.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
TIA
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Your battery needs to be replaced..
Dial *#0228# this will reset the battery calibration. Charge it to 100%..
see if the problem still remains that means your battery is almost dead and expect a random shutdowns at anytime
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heisenberg7 said:
A new battery is really cheap ( 15-25 usds) and probably would solve your problem.
There is no reason for this topic unless you have the original battery.
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I understand that the battery is probably past it's best, but it was the fact that it states that it has lots of life left, and then acts as if it doesn't that throws me. That's the reason why I have posted this topic.
Amar.B said:
Your battery needs to be replaced..
Dial *#0228# this will reset the battery calibration. Charge it to 100%..
see if the problem still remains that means your battery is almost dead and expect a random shutdowns at anytime
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I've done this now. Thanks for the tip. It doesn't seem to have made any difference though so it's probably just the battery.
I just expected it to indicate the correct battery level in the battery level indicator.
You live and learn! Thanks for the replies.
magicdrshoon said:
I understand that the battery is probably past it's best, but it was the fact that it states that it has lots of life left, and then acts as if it doesn't that throws me. That's the reason why I have posted this topic.
I've done this now. Thanks for the tip. It doesn't seem to have made any difference though so it's probably just the battery.
I just expected it to indicate the correct battery level in the battery level indicator.
You live and learn! Thanks for the replies.
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Anytime mate.. cheers
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