Consumers in United States can not buy Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 tablet henceforth, as Lucy Koh, a District Judge in San Jose, California has granted a preliminary injunction against the sale of Galaxy Tab 10.1 in U.S. The Judge has made order in favor of Apple against Samsung........
http://mirolta.com/2012/06/27/court-bans-sale-of-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-in-united-states/
In the world of baseball there's a saying, "Never throw behind the runner." This refers to a runner advancing to another base and if you throw behind them they're likely to be safe at the next base.
Apple is throwing behind the runner. The Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is already out and the real replacement for the original Galaxy TAB, the Galaxy Note, is almost available. Apple had obtained an injunction on a product that is in sunset and likely will be retired soon anyway.
It's not likely to be upheld anyway as the just thinks that Samsung has "flood the market" with iPad lookalikes. Once the judge learns that Samsung hasn't come close to flooding anything the case will be dropped.
This time I'm not even mad simply because the tablet is already old and the new one is already out. Way too late for Apple to do any real harm. Great job Apple. Here have a trophy for "Late in the Game"
it was bannend here in germany too last year so samsung trow in the 10.1N its almost the same but with a modifed case, i think they will release this in usa then now.
Doesn't the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 already look like the modified one in Germany?
I don't think the 10.1 2 is the true replacement for the original 10.1. I don't see it as an upgrade at all.
I hope this helps the resale value!
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Awesome! Hopefully it'll drive the resale price up!
apple sure spend a crapload of money on a tablet that's already been replaced, lol. but i still love mine.
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so wouldn't this mean that i apple ever decides to make a smaller tablet that looks like an ipad then they should get blocked since a few manufacturers already have the look at those smaller sizes.
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I don't think the 10.1 2 is the true replacement for the original 10.1. I don't see it as an upgrade at all.
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I totally agree, the successor was a disappointment
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My only have one concern: Will this affect the release of our update?
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No I don't see why it would affect our update
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Doesn't the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 already look like the modified one in Germany?
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Yep, it does, and it's quite sexy.
Safe to say I'll never be buying from Samsung again though. ASUS seems to be the only manufacturer that gets it, without getting hit with lawsuits like everyone else.
on other ban related notes, the Galaxy Nexus was banned too by the same judge. Opinions have changed from "I love Lucy" to "**** you Lucy".
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I did so much research on Tablets and tested so many but still ended up purchasing the wrong one (Samsung Galaxy 10.1).
Don't really care about the ICS update but certain apps (Chrome and new Firefox Browsers) are incompatible. Thoroughly disgusted.
Is Apple really thinking that all users now will buy an iPad?
To be stupid in that way, shows us which level of thinking is going on.
This is a signal for all of us...
So when our friends from the states need some tab's, here we go...
But that version is a long ago part, the new one is still sold.
Is Apple working in/for the past? Ho, ho, ho we are in the future :laugh:
Gazalan:
on other ban related notes, the Galaxy Nexus was banned too by the same judge.
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Is that judge payed by Apple?
Or he gets the newest model without paying?
Or he gets lifetime free downloads on iTune?
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Endoran said:
My only have one concern: Will this affect the release of our update?
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I think no, Samsung will set a signal on that...
When Apple takes out patents, or copyrights something, its their way of preventing others from repeating the same mistakes.
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Consumers in United States can not buy Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 tablet henceforth,
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Let's set the record straight on this. It does not prevent consumers from buying 10.1s. Those 10.1s already in the distribution channel (already sold to wholesalers and retailers), are not affected by this order. The order only prevents Samsung from selling them.
It does not affect sales of Tab 2s
Since the original 10.1 went out of production awhile back and most 10.1 inventory has probably been sold to retailers, it's a hollow temporary PR victory for Apple.
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Since the original 10.1 went out of production awhile back and most 10.1 inventory has probably been sold to retailers, it's a hollow temporary PR victory for Apple.
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In a way, its the best advertising Samsung could get. I don't see that ban lasting. I've checked out the iPad Vs the 10.1 and I feel Apple and the Judge are talking crap. However that's an issue to be addressed in the States, so my comment is as a complete bystander waiting for the tab 10.1 to be delivered.
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Yep, it does, and it's quite sexy.
Safe to say I'll never be buying from Samsung again though. ASUS seems to be the only manufacturer that gets it, without getting hit with lawsuits like everyone else.
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The reason Apple is going after Samsung so hard is that Samsung has been more successful in the marketplace than Apple and there's a bigger potential return by hitting them. In Q1 of this year Apple sold an impressive 38 million phones. But Samsung sold 43 million. Apple wants to bring them down.
ASUS is just a small player and there's little reason for Apple to go after them right now. If they should surge, like HTC did, then expect the lawsuits to fly. The lawsuits are against features in Android and because of that all Android hardware manufacturers are subject to a lawsuit.
However, with that being said, my next purchase will be an ASUS Infinity. Looks like a great product.
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The reason Apple is going after Samsung so hard is that Samsung has been more successful in the marketplace than Apple and there's a bigger potential return by hitting them. In Q1 of this year Apple sold an impressive 38 million phones. But Samsung sold 43 million. Apple wants to bring them down.
ASUS is just a small player and there's little reason for Apple to go after them right now. If they should surge, like HTC did, then expect the lawsuits to fly. The lawsuits are against features in Android and because of that all Android hardware manufacturers are subject to a lawsuit.
However, with that being said, my next purchase will be an ASUS Infinity. Looks like a great product.
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Maybe this is just a dream, but if it were to ever become possible to buy a bare-bones device, and then load your own operating system without that dependency on manufacturers own brand lock-in systems. Now that would be something. 'tis just a dream and will remain so, until it becomes feasible for third party assemblers to start putting 'generic' devices together, or maybe one of the big boys to do it to free themselves from the eternal software support burden.
The asus, yes looks nice, it just a tad too long to wait for it in the UK.
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Before Apple has all production and sales stopped? The injunction may pass to prevent sales on 4 Samsung devices. The Tab 10.1, Nexus S 4G, DROID Charge, and Infuse. It's sad, but this judge does seem to favor Apple a lot in this case.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/04/apple...unction-to-halt-sale-of-four-samsung-devices/
I am highly considering ordering a 32GB Black WiFi only one from my Sprint store just because I want one so badly. I really wanted a 3G/4G one from Sprint, but I guess that isn't going to happen.
The Verizon LTE 10.1 won't even be released in time, but if it is...I may consider buying it just for the purposes of having mobile network capabilities.
I've already got mine. They can't take it away no matter what happens.
I have the 32GB Black one. My wife got it for me for Father's Day. I know it's WIFI only but when the Galaxy S II comes out, I'm going to add the wifi hotspot so I can pair these 2 badasses together. Whosdaman - please keep us updated with all the latest on the SGS2 as usual
I really doubt that will happen...
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I really doubt that will happen...
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+1. It's just a bunch of legal crap. They'll settle sooner or later.
Ugh. Hopefully this tweet from AnonymousIRC is a foreshadowing of larger attacks on Apple if they continue to try low, dirty tactics like that.
Seriously, attempting to block a competitors' ability to sell products when you're the market leader anyway? That's just pathetic, someone please tell Apple that just because Microsoft may have bullied them doesn't give them the right to do it to others.
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Ugh. Hopefully this tweet from AnonymousIRC is a foreshadowing of larger attacks on Apple if they continue to try low, dirty tactics like that.
Seriously, attempting to block a competitors' ability to sell products when you're the market leader anyway? That's just pathetic, someone please tell Apple that just because Microsoft may have bullied them doesn't give them the right to do it to others.
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Thank goodness
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I got mine already also (wifi only) so no matter what happens I will still be able to use mine.
None of these devices look anything like Apples. I've also never heard anyone say "it looks like an iPhone"
WoW, Android must have a huge impact on ipad sales - haha.
In Germany Galaxy S2 has a massive sales rate, was even sold out for some time
Touchwizz looks like apple. I wouln't mind if they remove it.
The 10.1 doesn't really belong on that list, while the others have TouchWiz on them, the 10.1 does not and does not otherwise copy any Apple product.
Not really a fan of Apple's scare tactics, they're annoying.
Its not that they copied them...had no one been following this case? Samsung is using patented products in those devices without apples authorization
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Apple really needs to chill out. Those guys have enough to let a little slide. .
It's not just Apple - Oracle want a piece of the pie also - http://www.bnet.com/blog/technology...rd-the-tab/11127?tag=content;drawer-container
Whosdaman glad to see you over in the tab section. Appricated your work on the epic. Hope you pick up a tab soon and get to working some magic on it.
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Ahh, Oracle. The worst thing to happen to Sun Microsystems since... well, ever. Luckily Oracle stepped on a lot of toes and every piece of software they got from Sun that was worth anything got forked, so I don't have to ever see their ugly logo on any software I use.
I hope Google wins, not for Android's sake, but in the vain hope that Dalvik will overtake Java everywhere and kill the last major product Oracle got from Sun. They destroyed everything good about Sun, they don't deserve to profit from their products.
Wow, I'm just raging all over this thread aren't I?
Some reality for you: Apple will never get an injunction. Absent an actual verdict of infringement -- which will take years to achieve in our legal system -- Apple would need to prove irreparable harm in order to obtain a preliminary injunction pending trial. Considering the pace of Ipad sales, I think this will be all but impossible. Moreover, Apple would likely be required to post a bond to protect Samsung in case Samsung eventually prevailed at trial, with that bond being equivalent to all the lost profit that Samsung would lose if Tab sales were halted. Apple doesn't have that kind of cash to invest in games like this.
These suits are really about patent cross-licensing. Apple will eventually extort a bundle of license rights from Samsung in exchange for granting Samsung a bundle of Apple's license rights. This is like patent infringement insurance for Apple, because it'll stave off some future theoretical infringement claims not only from Samsung but from other patent holders. In other words, you bring one lawsuit today to help stave off 20 lawsuits in the future. Its good business practice, and every major technology company in the world does it to some degree.
Samsung should respond with a bad batch of screens
I have the 16 gb whifi but still would not like to see sales top for the sake of development.
Im glad i bought one soon after launch
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Seriously is apple really that scared?
I really hope this doesn't delay the Australian release.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...samsung-from-selling-tablet-in-australia.html
They must be that scared
you never heard anything from apple until just recently when the android phones and tablets are really starting to challenge apple, they now see android and the companies that make android phones/tabs as a threat and they cant develop iOS fast enough to stay ahead so are now doing all they can to slow the pace of the android train down.
lets be honest iOS has been the same since launch and it really needs a overhaul.
Seriously?! I used to respect apple with there innovation and cutting edge technology but since they began all these lawsuits and injunctions I have totally lost all respect for them and their "big bully boy" attitude towards its competition. Shame on Apple! They must really fear the 10.1 TAB... Maybe alienating themselves from Samsung who made a fair bit of Apple's components wasn't such a good idea....
For now, Apple has successfully blocked the sale of the galaxy tab 10.1 in Australia till the lawsuit is settled. who know how long that is. I really hope samsung blocks the ipad3!
I don't think Apple is scared, the iPad is way too dominate at this point, I just think they're greedy assholes.
Seems like someone in Australia is drinking too much of icoolaid than Foster beer. C'on mate, you need to cool off drinking Foster not icoolaid.
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....just to note, no Aussies actually drink Fosters. It's all about the Victoria Bitter.
Cant people from Australia just order theres online?
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Cant people from Australia just order theres online?
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I don't believe this will allow even shipments.
Apple is absolutely absurd.
Seihaku said:
I don't think Apple is scared, the iPad is way too dominate at this point, I just think they're greedy assholes.
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I wouldn't be too sure. Second quarter numbers show that Apple's share of tablets shipped in the second quarter dropped from 96% in 2010 to just over 60% in 2011. Android's market share increased from 2.9% to over 30%.
If that isn't scary to Apple, then they're fools.
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Cant people from Australia just order theres online?
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*is Australian*
Ordered mine online, there weren't any turtleneck wearing Apple agents at customs making sure my Tab 10.1 didn't get to me.
Also, no one in Australia drinks Fosters beer because a) it's horrible and no one in their right mind would drink it and b) it's only sold internationally and you can't actually buy it inside Australia unless you're at an airport or something.
(Haha, first post... I've been lurking for ages and just decided to randomly join all of a sudden)
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Seriously just order it online.
This ruling has stink written all over it. A corporation in Country A is able to persuade Country B's judicial system (6K miles away), to cockblock Country C (also 6K miles away), from selling them widgets.
Perhaps Google should think about including Country Bs judges when handing out their I/O gift bags next year.
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I know why apple is mad,not sure if this true or not but the new Iphone 5 (slimminest)looks like the samsung galaxy tab 10.1......
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Samsung will release Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Australia despite Apple complaint
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/02/samsung-will-release-galaxy-tab-10-1-in-australia-despite-apple/
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/02/samsung-will-release-galaxy-tab-10-1-in-australia-despite-apple/
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Good for Samsung. TBH, they should just kiss & make up. It would benefit if both sides were to do that in the long run.
The tab is now delayed thanks to Apple. I cant believe they are complaining about "touch and feel" and "finger gestures". The only finger gesture Samsung should give apple is....
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/08/samsung-officially-postpones-galaxy-tab-10-1-launch-event/
It's great, a mate of mine has an iPad 2 and I've got my GT10.1 and we can't see any similarities between either of them when we compare em. They're two entirely different beasts for different consumers.
He had a play around with my Tab and was like "dude, this is so different from what I'm used to with the iPad".
I have an iMac and MBP at home. So an iPhone and load would make alot of media swapping easier. But honestly, Android allows me to design the device interface better for how I need it for quick access on the go.
Apple may find themselves on the other side of those law suits when they finally decide to overhaul their UI. Serious, their iOS5 redesign of notifications has been in Android since 1.0! Watch out Apple.... your doing exactly what you are accusing others of doing to you. All you need is to be the Microsoft of the 2000's .... you recall how you dealt with them right? Next you'll be developing an Android iTunes App and an Android iPhone/iPad.
Tread lightly with all your lawsuits. I came to Apple for home computing because my needs are DJ, remix, and simplicity and great one stop support between the two environments. Don't make me regret trusting you by worrying about only the competition and not your customers
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For the second time in a matter of days, Apple was granted a temporary injunction by a US court banning sales of a Samsung mobile device - this time the Galaxy Nexus smartphone.
Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile...amsung-galaxy-nexus-smartphone/#ixzz1zIIJcZHo
This is the first serious blow to google and android. The galaxy tab doesn't count for much of Samsung's overall sales, but the Galaxy Nexus is a popular device (and was the ICS flagship).
If the courts ultimately rule in Apple's favor in regards to the unified search patent, that could have devastating consequences for Google Now and S-Voice. Apple has nothing to lose here, they only had to put up 96 million in bond (chump change) and if the courts rule in favor of google the people who couldn't buy a Nexus (and bought an iPhone instead) will negate much of that
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For the second time in a matter of days, Apple was granted a temporary injunction by a US court banning sales of a Samsung mobile device - this time the Galaxy Nexus smartphone.
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I for one can't believe that the courts let this happen, as I really can't understand how that is coptright infringement. Next thing you know apple will claim they on the rights to smart phones.
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Next thing you know apple will claim they on the rights to smart phones.
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Oh they've already claimed that. Several times actually
But still Google sell Galaxy Nexus on play store. Looks like they're not stop it.
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Apple has to put up a bail amount (millions in this case) to the court to ensure Google will be paid for losses if the court case swings the other way and the Galaxy Nexus is found to be non infringing. Once this is paid, then sales should be stopped.
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But still Google sell Galaxy Nexus on play store. Looks like they're not stop it.
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If you want one you better act now, they won't be there long. Once Apple posts the $96 million bond (which is nothing), Google BY LAW will have to stop selling it smh....
I was going to wait to buy a nexus but after reading the ban I bought one. apple is irritating me more and more these days. I'm about ready to throw my ipod away.
Bath salts made me eat my Inspire
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jdelano said:
For the second time in a matter of days, Apple was granted a temporary injunction by a US court banning sales of a Samsung mobile device - this time the Galaxy Nexus smartphone.
Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile...amsung-galaxy-nexus-smartphone/#ixzz1zIIJcZHo
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Watch this website. This guy seems to think that the S3 could be added to the injunction in short order:
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www.fosspatents.com
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I wish Verizon would hurry up and get their S3 out the door.
From Foss Patents website:
"Apple is now probably going to think about requesting a preliminary injunction against the Galaxy S III smartphone. Earlier this month, Apple wanted to add that device as a second accused product to this process. There were two patents with respect to which Apple believed Samsung's infringement had the same pattern, and the '604 Siri patent was one of them. If Apple moved for a preliminary injunction against the S III now over the Siri patent, it would be very likely to win, but it would have to accept a postponement of the trial of its first lawsuit against Samsung. This is a tough choice to make, but a motion over only one patent wouldn't necessarily cause a huge delay."
Will not be surprised if sgs3 gets added as well
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Motorola
google didn't spend all that money on motorola for nothing I'm sure there's something in there .... apple sneaky, Google sneakier
I get my damn phone from Verizon in 9 ****ing days....apple can do whatever they want after i get it but for now they can go f*ck themselves
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google didn't spend all that money on motorola for nothing I'm sure there's something in there .... apple sneaky, Google sneakier
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I keep seeing comments like this being made all the time yet nothing ever happens. Google seems happy to sit on the sidelines lately. Or they just don't have anything to fight back with.
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This is the first serious blow to google and android. The galaxy tab doesn't count for much of Samsung's overall sales, but the Galaxy Nexus is a popular device (and was the ICS flagship).
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And the JB flagship as well, which is kind of strange given that it's not a brand new device.
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Watch this website. This guy seems to think that the S3 could be added to the injunction in short order:
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That's the worry now, that the GS3 is in the sights. The Android Police article seems to think this could finally bring Google and Apple head to head.
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I get my damn phone from Verizon in 9 ****ing days....apple can do whatever they want after i get it but for now they can go f*ck themselves
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I hope you guys get it before it goes down
Seeing as Apple has already tried to get an injunction bundled alongside the Gnex ruling, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they tried again. TBH this news was the final straw that got me to preorder the GS3 ASAP. It'll be very interesting to see how Google moves on this.
Insert CNET article here: ("Apple wants to keep Samsung's Galaxy S3 out of U.S." by Josh Lowensohn) Can't post links yet..
Apple could try and get something temporary against the S3, but anything that verizon, tmobile, sprint, att, etc has right now they are allowed to sell. And believe me verizon is probably just sitting on there's right now, so i would assume anybody with the July 9th ship date will be getting theres.
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Apple could try and get something temporary against the S3, but anything that verizon, tmobile, sprint, att, etc has right now they are allowed to sell. And believe me verizon is probably just sitting on there's right now, so i would assume anybody with the July 9th ship date will be getting theres.
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I hope this is true but i guess im also thinking like how much damage could apple possibly do to this phone seeing how its to be released in 9 days. Also didnt the judge already say that the court date for the gs3 isnt due until late july?
Sure am glad I get to pick up mine at Sprint tomorrow morning. Hope for everyones sake a ban doesn't happen.
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Sure am glad I get to pick up mine at Sprint tomorrow morning. Hope for everyones sake a ban doesn't happen.
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I'm on vacation until Friday. I wanted to wait until I got back so it doesn't sit by my door, but now I think I'm gonna call Telesales on Sunday morning and get one shipped ASAP.
Debating 16 or 32. Want 32, but might do 16 in case there's a ban and they can't get any more 32's.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/24/apple-galaxy-tab-7-7-eu-injunction/
Litigation beats innovation any day, well done Stevecorp.
I am so happy i have my 7.7 already. Actually thinking about buying 3g one to use as a business phone.. Might buy it now while i have the chance..
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Good thing we got ICS before this happened...
German Apple lawyers are really good.
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Patent trolls nothing more, I'm sure the 7.7 really put a dent into apple's sales, as did the rest of the galaxy tab lineup, oh wait.
crazy thought, is apple wanting this ban to protect the mini ipad when it goes on sale?
Oh well, got my 7.7 months ago. Now Samsung just need to come out with 7.7 ver 2 which they just need to tweak the design.
A stupid patent that patent a generic rectangular black tablet with rounded corners. Thought I saw that years ago on LCD photo frames. And they spent months if not a year on this in court. Seriously Apple, time to move on and actually innovate.
and exactly such things are the reason for me to NOT buy products from apple!!! never!!!
although i have to admit that they are usually well designed... but their childishness really
piss me on!
After buying Apple for 5 years I am getting annoyed with this nonsense.
I have an iPad 2 and an Tab 7.7 and they are so different its a joke.
No iPhone 5 for me; but an S3 (when the price drops a little )
Get a grip Apple.
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crazy thought, is apple wanting this ban to protect the mini ipad when it goes on sale?
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I would say so.
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One question i have is, why are they only goings against Samsung, there are other tab makers our there but they dont seem to bother them.
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One question i have is, why are they only goings against Samsung, there are other tab makers our there but they dont seem to bother them.
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guess the samsung tabs are the only one's that are selling in any high number?
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One question i have is, why are they only goings against Samsung, there are other tab makers our there but they dont seem to bother them.
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Sammy is the only threat to apple.
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Pretty lame. All these lawsuits are bad for consumer choice and they are based on such trivial broad patents.
Funny that this **** is only passing in Germany.
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Well, lets put a bit of spin on this. THIS is the device Apple were worried about.
Hopefully gives Samsung reason to make a 7.7 mkII with a few tweaks just to rub their noses in it.
Maybe a 7.7 Note.
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Patent trolls nothing more, I'm sure the 7.7 really put a dent into apple's sales, as did the rest of the galaxy tab lineup, oh wait.
crazy thought, is apple wanting this ban to protect the mini ipad when it goes on sale?
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Apple certainly 'innovate' - I don't think anyone has tried patent trolling a product that's already been available a year before your own device comes out, before. Way to go Apple, you've done what was previously considered impossible.
I guess this is what happens when you take a litigation-crazy company and combine it with a cash pile of billions of dollars.
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Pretty lame. All these lawsuits are bad for consumer choice and they are based on such trivial broad patents.
Funny that this **** is only passing in Germany.
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I suspect that Germany has a more lax definition of what constitutes copyright infringement than most other EU countries.
There were 4:3 aspect ratio tablets (Windows) before the iPad -- even had IPS screens. Motion Computing should sue Apple for billions.
The automakers should be suing each other because every car has four tires/tyres. :silly:
After all this Crap I think Apples Pooped in its OWN NEST...
like what another member said in another thread, its Apple's way of telling people in EU to wait for their iPad Mini and to hold off from buying the competitions products
let it be...it is just a beginning of Apple's end.....not able to innovate = not able to compete soon
we know it, Apple knows it, just customers do not know it.....but that is why Apple is so scared of innovations
just say everywhere what iRotten Apple is doing and thats all we can do now
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There were 4:3 aspect ratio tablets (Windows) before the iPad -- even had IPS screens. Motion Computing should sue Apple for billions.
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I agree. Also there were tablet computers like the iPad in 1984's movie "2010: The Year We Make Contact". Director Peter Hyams should sue the hell out of apple for copying that design!
This whole sueing thing is getting really ridiculous. Shame on apple for beeing not only childish, but also a bad loser.
Didn't feel this needed a new thread but noticed this from the sammie vs apple trial on the verge
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/30/3205118/samsung-p10-11-8-inch-retina-tablet
Why is the 7.7 crossed out with "high risk for volume"
unfortunately I can't seem to find the documents from where this slide came from.
Sunday, September 2, 2012
Note 10.1 Owners & XDA Members:
First, let me introduce myself. My name is Ed and I am the owner of a small networking and integration firm in Louisville, KY. While I am extremely proficient in my profession, my interest in mobile devices is a personal one and really more of a hobby. The number of times I've been corrected by Entropy512 will confirm that.
Anyway, enough about me. What I was wanting to know is, am I the only one who feels like Apple is monitoring my spending habits and basing their lawsuits on them? I mean seriously... the only Samsung device I own that has yet to be added to an Apple complaint is my absolutely gorgeous Tab 7.7 (GT-P6810) and it's 7.7" 1280x800 Super AMOLED Plus awesomeness! My other devices include the original Galaxy Note (GT-N7000), a Galaxy S III (GT-I9300), and a Galaxy Note 10.1 (GT-N8013) that I literally just bought yesterday!! Now today I read that Apple has added all but one of my devices to their most recent complaint. I would really like to own a device without having to worry about whether or not it was going to lose features. Am I the only one who feels this way?
Thanks,
Ed
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I don't feel like Apple is tracking spending habits, however every device listed is a very powerful (and popular) device. I've recently decided to pick up a GNote 10.1 over the TF700, and it feels like Apple is targeting anything popular that Samsung is rolling out. They really are trying to cripple the U.S market for Samsung, and It's really annoying.
iWay or no way I guess. I hope they get decimated with patent lawsuits.
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Yes. It's all your fault! :laugh: But there is a solution - buy some iPad so they will sue themselves.
Biohazard0289 said:
I don't feel like Apple is tracking spending habits, however every device listed is a very powerful (and popular) device. I've recently decided to pick up a GNote 10.1 over the TF700, and it feels like Apple is targeting anything popular that Samsung is rolling out. They really are trying to cripple the U.S market for Samsung, and It's really annoying.
iWay or no way I guess. I hope they get decimated with patent lawsuits.
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I get what you're saying. However, if you're gonna wish, you should probably wish for Apple to be annihilated, not decimated. To decimate is to reduce by 10%. I'd be happier with 90%. Apple was a very likeable company when they were on the verge of bankruptcy.
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well.
how to say ?
This is a blockage to creativity. And it is getting more ridiculous.
I mean, all of us also can see, where is the part which S3, N7000, and N8000 have copied from apple ?
On its first launch of Galaxy S i9000, yes, apple has the right to say that, since from the design, make-up and appearance, it is quite "similar".
I said "similar", not "same". Apple also claim that the gallery model on i9000 is copying their products, with a pinch method to zoom, etc.
Yes, apple may say like that for i9100.
But what right do they have to sue all samsung products ? Getting frustrated after Steve Jobs pass away ?
Especially on the N8000, I don't see anything similar on the iPad products.
From the looks, it is different alrd. Not to say about the S-Pen, Multiscreen, Pop-up play, floating keyboard, with the 3D surround speaker on the left and right side of the N8000.
I only see that apple is getting more and more ridiculous.
But...
How not to jealous with Samsung ?
Ever since from Samsung S2, Note 1, S3, Note 10.1,.... Samsung always can grab apple market.
With android as the open source, and a lot developer supporting android, how Apple can win market ?
In Singapore itself, the market for samsung has been grown eversince Galaxy S2. And one by one, ppl start to change from iPhone to Samsung.
Now you tell me, how not to jealous, in here, at least before Galaxy S come out, almost everyone here got an iPhone (I think arount 80% of the mobile market here was under Apple).
Once i9000 come out, ppl here still confuse to change or not, since i9000 is Samsung 1st debut to beat iPhone.
But after that, come out i9100, the market just suddenly boost up for Samsung here.
Up to now, only in around 2 years+, at least here, Samsung can grab at least 40 - 50% of iPhone market.
And now, with Galaxy Note 10.1" (with its all special features), don't u think if this device is very cool, it will grab the iPad market as well ?
:victory: **peace** :victory:
This is a great article.
Apple Worked A Broken Patent System
Apple used a dysfunctional U.S. patent system to gain excessive control over technologies it did not invent. If you value innovation, don't cheer Samsung's punishment.
Charles Babcock Editor At Large, InformationWeek
http://www.informationweek.com/mobility/smart-phones/apple-worked-a-broken-patent-system/240006568
BarryH_GEG said:
This is a great article.
Apple Worked A Broken Patent System
Apple used a dysfunctional U.S. patent system to gain excessive control over technologies it did not invent. If you value innovation, don't cheer Samsung's punishment.
Charles Babcock Editor At Large, InformationWeek
http://www.informationweek.com/mobility/smart-phones/apple-worked-a-broken-patent-system/240006568
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+1. Apple has handled this worse than microsofts attempt of monopoly back in the 90s. At least microsoft just sought to dominate the market and didnt attempt to go suing its competition into the ground. Anybody of sound economic mind sees nothing good coming out of these rediculous lawsuits. Samsung is the center off apples imperialistic crosshairs only because Samsung is the only android manufacturer that can compete with Apple. If HTC was where Samsung is then Apple would no doubt go after them. I will vote with my dollar and not buy Apple products. But there will always be isheep out there who will pay for an overpriced product just to have an iproduct.
My guess is that this will all end in a massive antitrust smackdown of Apple. When the devil overplays his hand there is always hell to pay.
Imagine Apple thinking they have a patent on the rectangular phone with rounded corners. Motorola was making phones lile that 25 years ago. Pathetic.
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mitchellvii said:
My guess is that this will all end in a massive antitrust smackdown of Apple. When the devil overplays his hand there is always hell to pay.
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In USA it won't. It is American company, they won't do that to their own against company from the other side of the ocean.
In Europe though it's more likely, but Apple doesn't have monopoly, so maybe not.
Magnesus said:
In USA it won't. It is American company, they won't do that to their own against company from the other side of the ocean.
In Europe though it's more likely, but Apple doesn't have monopoly, so maybe not.
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Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean people aren't watching you.
Mister_Mxyzptlk said:
Sunday, September 2, 2012
Note 10.1 Owners & XDA Members:
First, let me introduce myself. My name is Ed and I am the owner of a small networking and integration firm in Louisville, KY. While I am extremely proficient in my profession, my interest in mobile devices is a personal one and really more of a hobby. The number of times I've been corrected by Entropy512 will confirm that.
Anyway, enough about me. What I was wanting to know is, am I the only one who feels like Apple is monitoring my spending habits and basing their lawsuits on them? I mean seriously... the only Samsung device I own that has yet to be added to an Apple complaint is my absolutely gorgeous Tab 7.7 (GT-P6810) and it's 7.7" 1280x800 Super AMOLED Plus awesomeness! My other devices include the original Galaxy Note (GT-N7000), a Galaxy S III (GT-I9300), and a Galaxy Note 10.1 (GT-N8013) that I literally just bought yesterday!! Now today I read that Apple has added all but one of my devices to their most recent complaint. I would really like to own a device without having to worry about whether or not it was going to lose features. Am I the only one who feels this way?
Thanks,
Ed
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We are in The Matrix. Everything we do is being monitored.
toenail_flicker said:
We are in The Matrix. Everything we do is being monitored.
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You dont actually exist. You are just a virus i got responding to a Nigerian bank scam email
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toenail_flicker said:
We are in The Matrix. Everything we do is being monitored.
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And the real joke is on everyone who owns an iPad, iPhone and gets their music/apps via iTunes or the app store. Bruce Willis know... www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showb...-Apple-over-music-rights-after-his-death.html
Welcome to iWorld, new iPad mini and iPhone 5 owners!
BarryH_GEG said:
This is a great article.
Apple Worked A Broken Patent System
Apple used a dysfunctional U.S. patent system to gain excessive control over technologies it did not invent. If you value innovation, don't cheer Samsung's punishment.
Charles Babcock Editor At Large, InformationWeek
http://www.informationweek.com/mobility/smart-phones/apple-worked-a-broken-patent-system/240006568
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great article, i think these lines paint a pretty real picture of apple
"I will spend my last dying breath if I need to and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank to right this wrong. I'm going to destroy Android because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go to thermonuclear war on this," Steve Jobs told his biographer, Walter Isaacson (Steve Jobs, page 512).
No wonder Apple and Samsung couldn't reach a settlement. This case is a rough replay of Apple suing Microsoft many years ago when Apple believed it was owner of the graphical user interface. In that case, it was well documented that both Steve Jobs and an Apple design team had visited Xerox PARC to see the first mouse-driven, graphical user interface available, then adopted its elements for the Macintosh. That case didn't get very far.
i LOLd hearing of how that first apple case didnt get very far
No matter what patent apple has for its products, I still believe that "general" technology is not suitable to be patented.
If technology is being patented generally, then, there would be no further invention.
And same thing goes for design.
If a product has been copied exactly the same, without any improvement at all, and you just put your own branding, then yes, I would agree that one is a violation to the copyright / patent. But if a copy has been improved with a lot of enhancement, I don't think it would be considered as a violation also.
I just couldn't believe a giant company like Apple would do such things, and forget that technology doesn't belong to 1 company only.
If Samsung has never started with its first Galaxy S (which according to apple is "copying" its iPhone), there won't be any improvement / invention so called as Phablet (N7000). No further invention like what we see at the N8000 as well, with its pop up play, real multitask with a multiscreen support, and no need to talk about tablet with smart-pen. Has apple done such improvement ? Other than its SIRI, which I believe before apple came out with it, others have known about this SIRI as well. Its so called as "Retina" display also come from where ?
Apple, you have grown up, but yet still act like a child ! Compete with your own innovation, let the consumer choose the technology, and let technology keep on improving !
BarryH_GEG said:
This is a great article.
Apple Worked A Broken Patent System
Apple used a dysfunctional U.S. patent system to gain excessive control over technologies it did not invent. If you value innovation, don't cheer Samsung's punishment.
Charles Babcock Editor At Large, InformationWeek
http://www.informationweek.com/mobility/smart-phones/apple-worked-a-broken-patent-system/240006568
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Great article. Loved reading the comments section on it also. I'm really sick of Apple. The flawed patent system will be overhauled and many of apple patents will retracted as they should've never been issued in the first place.
I'm very interested in how the Motorola case against apple goes and this Samsung appeal.
I wonder how apple is feeling about MS jumping into the table game. If the surface does retail for the rumored $199, apple will have a heart attack..lol. apple is a household name BUT they aren't bigger than MICROSOFT. THEY don't have reach like MS does. It might take a collaboration of MS and Android to take down apple.
All I can say to Apple is you live by the sword you die by the sword.
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I had to jump in on this conversation with one question. What ever happened to the original develops of the GUI? I think it was Xerox. Why didn't they sue someone (Apple or Microsoft or both) for patent infringement back in the 80's? It might be a different world today if Xerox entered the PC market with its own interface.
They tried to years after the fact. The courts told them no dice.
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mitchellvii said:
All I can say to Apple is you live by the sword you die by the sword.
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how very true, anyone read the aticle about how Apple may be levied import bans against the newest iphone due to it's LTE system infringing on HTC's patents
parry, Riposte!