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Strange Bricked Defy ?

Hi all,
I have a friend's Defy from a French carrier and my friend is with another carrier so I decide to SIM unlock it by installing CM7 and other files.
So I have root it and install the recovery.
In recovery, I have flash CM7 and Gapps.
But I get a boot loop...
So I decided to flash JORDN_U3_97.21.51 SBF and restart from scratch.
But now, the phone wont boot at all.
Nothing on the screen but it's still reconized by RSD (even if nothing is displayed on the screen) I can re-flash SBF files and RSD say "PASS" but doesn't reboot the phone.
So now I have a brick and can't boot vol up + power doesn't display anything.
Dose anyone have an idea for me ?
Thank you.

1st don't loose your battery - when no working system on the device then it is not being charged
You wrote nothing about wipes - have u performed them? If not try to get into any recovery and wipe user data / factory reset, try vol- w/power or vol + & - together, take a battery for some time before doing it etc.
What ROM u had before flashing CM7?
Is it defy or defy+?
And you flashed CG5 sbf
When you give more details maybe I can propose proper solution.

You wrote nothing about wipes - have u performed them? If not try to get into any recovery and wipe user data / factory reset, try vol- w/power or vol + & - together, take a battery for some time before doing it etc.
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If I understood right, OP's DEFY is completely bricked and he cannot even access recovery.
Anyway, I unfortunately no solution to propose as I have a DEFY in the same situtation and I'm currently unable to revive it. We aren't the only who had DEFY bricked like this and some managed to have it wake up by flashing certain sbf.
You can try searching "bricked defy" on XDA and see what sbf the topic creator used to save his DEFY, if he succeeded to.

dont flash sbf just after the bootloop..!
-JFK- said:
Hi all,
I have a friend's Defy from a French carrier and my friend is with another carrier so I decide to SIM unlock it by installing CM7 and other files.
So I have root it and install the recovery.
In recovery, I have flash CM7 and Gapps.
But I get a boot loop...
So I decided to flash JORDN_U3_97.21.51 SBF and restart from scratch.
But now, the phone wont boot at all.
Nothing on the screen but it's still reconized by RSD (even if nothing is displayed on the screen) I can re-flash SBF files and RSD say "PASS" but doesn't reboot the phone.
So now I have a brick and can't boot vol up + power doesn't display anything.
Dose anyone have an idea for me ?
Thank you.
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frend i wanna tell u onething.the very first time i did the flashing of cm7.1stable on froyo 2.2.2defy i got a bootloop..since i was in hostel i cudnt afford internet..so i was soo scared and even waited for 15 min..but the cm7 logo with an arrow swirling around didnt stop..i puld the batery out and again inserted and did something stupid like clearing data and got the condition worse
then i flashed sbf using rsd lite ..again rooted and flashed cm7.1 stable and got bootloop..this time i surfed net and found what shud hav been done ..
1)pull out the battery after the boootloop.
2)clear cache
3)reboot
tats it..the welcome window comes in no time..
so coming to the present issue, after flashing the smf did u get bootanimation with light passing over "android" againg and again ??

Check that u r using the latest RSD.
I have a Defy plus but the same thing happened to me before (black screen even no boot with vol up) so I connected my phone to the computer (I can't really remember if I powered with a vol up or not) but I got it recognized by the RSD. try connecting and powering on the the vol up if nothing just connect and see what will happen.
The most important thing is to use the latest version of RSD.
and please tell me if it worked.
I'm not responsible for anything.

[Q] bricked defy

Yesterday I accidentaly removed some files in /data and the phobe immediately freezed.
When i tried to power on the phone i got a boot loop but i was still able to get in bootmenu and recovery mode.
Then i flashed several roms but still i got a boot loop.
then i used rds lite with various sbf including
JORDN_U3_97.21.51
3.4.2_177-005_NORDIC
but the situation is even worse because now the phone shows always a black screen

I guess you forgot to factory reset. Get into the stock recovery (power off >> hold power + up >> at the screen with android press up + down, wipe everything), reboot.

pepcisko said:
I guess you forgot to factory reset. Get into the stock recovery (power off >> hold power + up >> at the screen with android press up + down, wipe everything), reboot.
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after flashing JORDN_U3_97.21.51, when i hold power (or power + vol up) the phone seems dead, the display remains dark.

The phone goes directly into bootloader mode even if don't hold vol up.
The screen blacklight is off but RDS lite recognize my defy.

dicktracypa said:
The phone goes directly into bootloader mode even if don't hold vol up.
The screen blacklight is off but RDS lite recognize my defy.
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i think you flashed an wrong sbf ..... find ur stock sbf from here and flash it
and then try whatever you like

dicktracypa said:
The phone goes directly into bootloader mode even if don't hold vol up.
The screen blacklight is off but RDS lite recognize my defy.
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You have to hold power + vol down to get into stock recovery,
Power + vol up is for bootloader mode.

whatever combination of buttons i hold, the phone goes into bootloader mode
the screen backlight turns on only while flashing.
Also i've trayed dozens of SBFs but still my defy won't resuscitate

Have the screen after flashing looked like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27590063&postcount=4

dicktracypa said:
whatever combination of buttons i hold, the phone goes into bootloader mode
the screen backlight turns on only while flashing.
Also i've trayed dozens of SBFs but still my defy won't resuscitate
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1.First check if your battery is charged. Is it charging when charger plugged in? (battery icon with percentage). If not try to charge it with other defy or external charger.
2. If u flashed nothing higher then CG5 then flash chinese eclair (first one u mentioned in the 1st post) then go to this thread, part Common Problems/Questions, use method 2. with slight modification.
1st sbf is just this eclair u mentioned - then u r done for item 1.
For item 5. choose this CM7 (do not flash maniac's CM7 - because of lack of space in the phone)
The modification is do not perform item 6. - simply do not reboot but go to 7. - wiping in CWM.
After u go to point 9. start the system. Now u can flash any CM7 or 9 from CWM

corrinti said:
1.First check if your battery is charged. Is it charging when charger plugged in? (battery icon with percentage). If not try to charge it with other defy or external charger.
2. If u flashed nothing higher then CG5 then flash chinese eclair (first one u mentioned in the 1st post) then go to this thread, part Common Problems/Questions, use method 2. with slight modification.
1st sbf is just this eclair u mentioned - then u r done for item 1.
For item 5. choose this CM7 (do not flash maniac's CM7 - because of lack of space in the phone)
The modification is do not perform item 6. - simply do not reboot but go to 7. - wiping in CWM.
After u go to point 9. start the system. Now u can flash any CM7 or 9 from CWM
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First of all thank you for your reply.
Step 2 says: "Root your phone." The problem is that the phone can't boot up after the first step . So how am i supposed to root it?

dicktracypa said:
First of all thank you for your reply.
Step 2 says: "Root your phone." The problem is that the phone can't boot up after the first step . So how am i supposed to root it?
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So most probably it means that u don't fulfill condition of my 2, point & your phone was flashed with full sbf with CG higher then 5.
Then hope that your defy is either red lens or plus, otherwise u lost your camera.
Here u can find sbfs with download links
This post by walter79 will give u some advice which sbf u can use and which to avoid

corrinti said:
So most probably it means that u don't fulfill condition of my 2, point & your phone was flashed with full sbf with CG higher then 5.
Then hope that your defy is either red lens or plus, otherwise u lost your camera.
Here u can find sbfs with download links
This post by walter79 will give u some advice which sbf u can use and which to avoid
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I've tryed almost every sbf in that page but my defy is still not working.
Is there any chance to fix it or i definitely bricked it?

Do u know if u have a red lens or green lens
Sent from my MB525 using xda premium

dicktracypa said:
I've tryed almost every sbf in that page but my defy is still not working.
Is there any chance to fix it or i definitely bricked it?
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Can you please show us what SBF's you flashed?
By what i see you probably bricked your phone.. next time you get bootloops dont flash all sbf's you see with panic, come here and you will get help

Cman41 said:
Can you please show us what SBF's you flashed?
By what i see you probably bricked your phone.. next time you get bootloops dont flash all sbf's you see with panic, come here and you will get help
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Exactly. Unfortunately there are some posts which say 'try all sbfs untill u r lucky' instead of 'read first to understand sometimes there is no way back'
@Dicktracypa - hope it is still a chance to bring your defy back to life, but give us info colleagues above aksed for

krkdesigns said:
Do u know if u have a red lens or green lens
Sent from my MB525 using xda premium
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It's a green lens device
Cman41 said:
Can you please show us what SBF's you flashed?
By what i see you probably bricked your phone..
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The first sbf I flashed was the first one in this page http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umts_jordan/list.php
The phone got struck on motorola logo. Then I flashed other sbf in that page with the same result.
After flashing JORDN_U3_97.21.51 my defy seems dead: the backlight remains off when i hold the power button.
next time you get bootloops dont flash all sbf's you see with panic, come here and you will get help
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next time I'm not buying another motorola phone, that's for sure!

corrinti said:
Exactly. Unfortunately there are some posts which say 'try all sbfs untill u r lucky' instead of 'read first to understand sometimes there is no way back'
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That's exactly what happened. :crying: Anyway I should have read more thread before doing anything. I can't blame no one, that's only my fault
@Dicktracypa - hope it is still a chance to bring your defy back to life, but give us info colleagues above aksed for
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Thank you for your help guys

dicktracypa said:
It's a green lens device
The first sbf I flashed was the first one in this page
The phone got struck on motorola logo. Then I flashed other sbf in that page with the same result.
After flashing JORDN_U3_97.21.51 my defy seems dead: the backlight remains off when i hold the power button.
next time I'm not buying another motorola phone, that's for sure!
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hehe agreed, same here P:
After reviewing the list you showed us here this are all froyo/eclair SBF's means their CG's are not higher than 4, means you could even flash the great clear cee nordic to revive your defy(dont try it now though after the JORDN_U3_97.21.51). Thats really weird that your phone died after JORDN_U3_97.21.51, maybe out of battery? could you try to get another battery? maybe load it in an external charger? i dont see any reason for the phone not to boot up normally.

Cman41 said:
hehe agreed, same here P:
After reviewing the list you showed us here this are all froyo/eclair SBF's means their CG's are not higher than 4, means you could even flash the great clear cee nordic to revive your defy(dont try it now though after the JORDN_U3_97.21.51). Thats really weird that your phone died after JORDN_U3_97.21.51, maybe out of battery? could you try to get another battery? maybe load it in an external charger? i dont see any reason for the phone not to boot up normally.
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I cant check now but maybe someone knows which CG is the first sbf in the list? I mean JORDN_U3_6.36.0_SIGNED_USAJRDNTMOB1B4B5DE1028.0R_JORDANTMO_P022_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz
Is it a limit or the one mentioned already in the first post i.e. JORDN_U3...51 which is CG5?

corrinti said:
I cant check now but maybe someone knows which CG is the first sbf in the list? I mean JORDN_U3_6.36.0_SIGNED_USAJRDNTMOB1B4B5DE1028.0R_JORDANTMO_P022_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz
Is it a limit or the one mentioned already in the first post i.e. JORDN_U3...51 which is CG5?
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i already checked it its CG 4, all of the page you showed me are CG 4
But since you already flashed the chinese eclair rom which is CG 5 dont try to flash anything else but that, your phone should be able to boot just fine with that one.
Is your battery charged?

[Help!] Bootloop.

So, I had some issues with my Defy+...
I tested the latest 4.1.2 nightly and seemed like my backup was corrupted (?!) and I had to flash a 2.3.6 BL-6 .SBF since the backup would make me enter a bootloop.
Well, I tried with different .SBFs and sadly all of them have the same effect: the flashing process moves smooth, except that in the moment when I'm asked to power it up it's entering a bootloop.
Now, my battery STILL has some inside, but trying to charge it won't work(gives me the "?" sign). Don't know what should I do. Should I leave the phone in the bootloop until the battery goes away and then to re-flash a .SBF?...
Or my flashing process wasn't good enough and there's a workaround I don't know?... I don't want to brick my phone forever.

Charge battery with mcgyver metod or with other defy & reflash it with 231 sbf. For more info read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537

So, there's no other option out there?...

Deformat said:
So, there's no other option out there?...
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Recharge battery with mcgayver metod and reflash sbf, you'll need start from scratch, because your bootmenu was corrupted and you can't restore nandroid or reinstall zip

Deformat said:
So, I had some issues with my Defy+...
I tested the latest 4.1.2 nightly and seemed like my backup was corrupted (?!) and I had to flash a 2.3.6 BL-6 .SBF since the backup would make me enter a bootloop.
Well, I tried with different .SBFs and sadly all of them have the same effect: the flashing process moves smooth, except that in the moment when I'm asked to power it up it's entering a bootloop.
Now, my battery STILL has some inside, but trying to charge it won't work(gives me the "?" sign). Don't know what should I do. Should I leave the phone in the bootloop until the battery goes away and then to re-flash a .SBF?...
Or my flashing process wasn't good enough and there's a workaround I don't know?... I don't want to brick my phone forever.
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Once you have flashed the sbf and back on stock you need to go into the moto recovery and do a restore to default / format system. that should get around the boot loop issue... at least it did for me...

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locn said:
Once you have flashed the sbf and back on stock you need to go into the moto recovery and do a restore to default / format system. that should get around the boot loop issue... at least it did for me...
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Hi together, well I hope this is the right place.... I'm owner of a motorola Defy MB 525 that ran without any problems on cm9 nightly for last 6 month. Now suddenly it doesn't start any moer andIi can't access recovery setup nor anything else so it's impossible to wipe anything, too. When connected to my notebook only the white LED is shining but nothing happens. The typical "hardware-found-ping" appears and several seconds later the " hardware was removed ping." The right drivers are installed on my notebook, but even RSD Lite doesn't found my Defy so I can't flash enything. Anyone has any Idea what to to?
Thank's in advance for any help!
Heddi

Heddi72 said:
Hi together, well I hope this is the right place.... I'm owner of a motorola Defy MB 525 that ran without any problems on cm9 nightly for last 6 month. Now suddenly it doesn't start any moer andIi can't access recovery setup nor anything else so it's impossible to wipe anything, too. When connected to my notebook only the white LED is shining but nothing happens. The typical "hardware-found-ping" appears and several seconds later the " hardware was removed ping." The right drivers are installed on my notebook, but even RSD Lite doesn't found my Defy so I can't flash enything. Anyone has any Idea what to to?
Thank's in advance for any help!
Heddi
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Do you connect it to RSD in bootloader mode? Volume + when powering on. What is on the screen then?
Deformat said:
So, I had some issues with my Defy+...
I tested the latest 4.1.2 nightly and seemed like my backup was corrupted (?!) and I had to flash a 2.3.6 BL-6 .SBF since the backup would make me enter a bootloop.
Well, I tried with different .SBFs and sadly all of them have the same effect: the flashing process moves smooth, except that in the moment when I'm asked to power it up it's entering a bootloop.
Now, my battery STILL has some inside, but trying to charge it won't work(gives me the "?" sign). Don't know what should I do. Should I leave the phone in the bootloop until the battery goes away and then to re-flash a .SBF?...
Or my flashing process wasn't good enough and there's a workaround I don't know?... I don't want to brick my phone forever.
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If you haven't flashed yet try to keep with BL6 sbfs, and not BL7 like 231.
After battery charge try to get to stock recover (volume down when powering on) and wipe data/factory reset before flashing.

bootloader
corrinti said:
Do you connect it to RSD in bootloader mode? Volume + when powering on. What is on the screen then?
If you haven't flashed yet try to keep with BL6 sbfs, and not BL7 like 231.
After battery charge try to get to stock recover (volume down when powering on) and wipe data/factory reset before flashing.
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Hi, I can't enter bootloader mode, nor anything else. The screen stays dark and the phone doesn'treact. Only mi notebook pings when i press the startbutton one phone. Once for Hardware detected and seconds later for hardware removed. from time to time the notebook tries to find drivers, but couldn't and abort searching.
Chris

Heddi72 said:
Hi, I can't enter bootloader mode, nor anything else. The screen stays dark and the phone doesn'treact. Only mi notebook pings when i press the startbutton one phone. Once for Hardware detected and seconds later for hardware removed. from time to time the notebook tries to find drivers, but couldn't and abort searching.
Chris
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And your battery? Is it charged?

Possibly Bricked Defy??? Please Help

HEEEEELP!!! I'm in great need of assistance! I'm new to modified roms and I'm at a lose with my Motorola defy (MB525). it seems to be bricked and won't detect in my computer
Here is what i did:
1. I had rooted it with SOC
2. unlocked boot loader
3. I had installed clockwork mod and flashed CM10.1 Android 4.2.2. Everything was working but some of my google play services and data
4. The problem showed up when I tried to upgrade and install CM 10.2 Android 4.3
5. It flashed successfully but very time it would power on, it would forget all the settings. It also wouldn't boot into clockwork recovery mode and would reboot when installing Rom Manager.
6. I tried wiping cache but now it won't even boot up, just black screen.
7. I tried putting the clockwork mod back on but it goes to the andorid boot menu and can't find a custom recovery
8. Now it boots staight to android boot menu, It will not detect in my Mac or friend's PC
9. Downloaded motorola drivers, RSD Lite for pc and tried entering bootloader mode but battery is too low to put in USB transferring mode
10. Tried charging for hours but it is still not charged enough to do bootloader mode, doesn't seem to be charging.
11. When connected to a computer, it detects by displaying a white light but will not boot up to android boot menu.and is not detected by the computer
Not sure what else I can do, any suggestions? Please and thanks!

Similar issue
AlphaXray said:
HEEEEELP!!! I'm in great need of assistance! I'm new to modified roms and I'm at a lose with my Motorola defy (MB525). it seems to be bricked and won't detect in my computer
Here is what i did:
1. I had rooted it with SOC
2. unlocked boot loader
3. I had installed clockwork mod and flashed CM10.1 Android 4.2.2. Everything was working but some of my google play services and data
4. The problem showed up when I tried to upgrade and install CM 10.2 Android 4.3
5. It flashed successfully but very time it would power on, it would forget all the settings. It also wouldn't boot into clockwork recovery mode and would reboot when installing Rom Manager.
6. I tried wiping cache but now it won't even boot up, just black screen.
7. I tried putting the clockwork mod back on but it goes to the andorid boot menu and can't find a custom recovery
8. Now it boots staight to android boot menu, It will not detect in my Mac or friend's PC
9. Downloaded motorola drivers, RSD Lite for pc and tried entering bootloader mode but battery is too low to put in USB transferring mode
10. Tried charging for hours but it is still not charged enough to do bootloader mode, doesn't seem to be charging.
11. When connected to a computer, it detects by displaying a white light but will not boot up to android boot menu.and is not detected by the computer
Not sure what else I can do, any suggestions? Please and thanks!
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I have a similar problem. My unmodified (not rooted) Defy (running 2.2.1) started to boot loop, so I eventually did a factory reset. That worked for a while, and then suddenly the defy froze on the Moto logo (not even cycling to the Blur screen) and I could no longer get to the reset screen. However I could still get to the bootloader, so I tried to use RDS lite. I got one sbf to say it passed, but the phone did not reboot. Now RDS will detect whether the phone is on or off (and if on I'll get a white LED) and I can flash the sbf still, but otherwise the phone is completely bricked - can't get to reset OR bootloader screen.
Any help would be appreciated greatly!

AlphaXray said:
HEEEEELP!!! I'm in great need of assistance! I'm new to modified roms and I'm at a lose with my Motorola defy (MB525). it seems to be bricked and won't detect in my computer
9. Downloaded motorola drivers, RSD Lite for pc and tried entering bootloader mode but battery is too low to put in USB transferring mode
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First of all, you need to get the battery charged somehow. Here's some possibilities:
borrow from someone a "defy's battery compatible phone" and charge your battery inside that phone. A Defy or a Defy+ or a DroidX would work.
try to get an external battery charger
WARNING it's potentially dangerous: method B from this post (MacGyver way): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892026 :
Then you can go download mode and restore sbf.
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DefyVictim said:
I have a similar problem. My unmodified (not rooted) Defy (running 2.2.1) started to boot loop, so I eventually did a factory reset. That worked for a while, and then suddenly the defy froze on the Moto logo (not even cycling to the Blur screen) and I could no longer get to the reset screen. However I could still get to the bootloader, so I tried to use RDS lite. I got one sbf to say it passed, but the phone did not reboot. Now RDS will detect whether the phone is on or off (and if on I'll get a white LED) and I can flash the sbf still, but otherwise the phone is completely bricked - can't get to reset OR bootloader screen.
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Which one sbf have you tried?
Are you sure is the right one? If yes, have you checked if it's corrupted or have your tried to redownload it?

DefyVictim said:
I have a similar problem. My unmodified (not rooted) Defy (running 2.2.1) started to boot loop, so I eventually did a factory reset. That worked for a while, and then suddenly the defy froze on the Moto logo (not even cycling to the Blur screen) and I could no longer get to the reset screen. However I could still get to the bootloader, so I tried to use RDS lite. I got one sbf to say it passed, but the phone did not reboot. Now RDS will detect whether the phone is on or off (and if on I'll get a white LED) and I can flash the sbf still, but otherwise the phone is completely bricked - can't get to reset OR bootloader screen.
Any help would be appreciated greatly!
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How did RSD recognise your phone if you can't go to the bootloader?

Defy Wiki pages
There is Wiki page here at XDA with a lot of relevant information for Defy/Defy+: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Motorola_Defy
You may find this informations scattered there, but Wiki is always good starting point.
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hotdog125 said:
How did RSD recognise your phone if you can't go to the bootloader?
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There is the answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...D_lite_to_recognise_a_phone_that_won.27t_boot

DeMonHell82 said:
First of all, you need to get the battery charged somehow. Here's some possibilities:
borrow from someone a "defy's battery compatible phone" and charge your battery inside that phone. A Defy or a Defy+ or a DroidX would work.
try to get an external battery charger
WARNING it's potentially dangerous: method B from this post (MacGyver way): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892026 :
Then you can go download mode and restore sbf.
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Which one sbf have you tried?
Are you sure is the right one? If yes, have you checked if it's corrupted or have your tried to redownload it?
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When I plug the phone into the USB the white LED comes on, but I can't raise ANYTHING on the screen (reset screen or bootloader screen, holding down the volume up or down w/ the power button). However pressing the power button alone does cause the computer to recognize hardware is plugged in, or alternately disconnected. RSD tells me a device is connected, but the only info given is the bootloader version and AP ID info (whatever that is). However, when I load the SBF, the phone lights up and says SW update in progress...
RSD tells me the phone is being rebooted and has passed, but screen goes dark and all I see i the white LED again.
I have no way of knowing how much juice is left in the battery (I have two, but I think one is dry) or if it is taking a charge..
I tried these two SBFs:
T-Mobile_MB525_6.19.0_1FF.sbf
JORDN_U3_6_36_0_SIGNED_USAJRDNTMOB1B4B5DE1028_0R_JORDANTMO_P022_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
Only the 1st one works.

DefyVictim said:
When I plug the phone into the USB the white LED comes on
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just to be sure you know it: when your battery is totally discharged, computer's usb doesn't give enough power to completely boot. (at least for me).

Milan Kerslager said:
There is Wiki page here at XDA with a lot of relevant information for Defy/Defy+: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Motorola_Defy
You may find this informations scattered there, but Wiki is always good starting point.
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There is the answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...D_lite_to_recognise_a_phone_that_won.27t_boot
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To get RSDLIte to recognize your phone you have to enter boot loader mode. this means press VOL-UP + POWER If nothing helps, try pushing VOL UP before!' you put the battery in (RSDLIte should be running and awaiting a new connection at that time) If you are using Windows 7, try seting RSDLite to "compatibility mode: Windows XP SP3".
@DefyVictim said he could not get into bootloader and yet RSD recognised it.

Pleasa help
Hi.
I wanted to go back to stock ROM from Quarx's CM10 (sep 17) and flashed the next file with RSD, but ended up in bootloop at motorola logo.
DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_GR_SIGN_UCADEFYEMARAB1B80AA004.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTCEE_P022_A022_Service1FF.sbf
Any ideas which sbf to flash beforemy battery goes down?
Defy plus.
Thanks!!

arvair said:
Hi.
I wanted to go back to stock ROM from Quarx's CM10 (sep 17) and flashed the next file with RSD, but ended up in bootloop at motorola logo.
DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_GR_SIGN_UCADEFYEMARAB1B80AA004.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTCEE_P022_A022_Service1FF.sbf
Any ideas which sbf to flash beforemy battery goes down?
Defy plus.
Thanks!!
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Try the Retail Taiwanese SBF.
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hotdog125 said:
Try the Retail Taiwanese SBF.
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No, it doesn't work, now it doesn't even start to boot...
when i connect the cable it recognizeses, but the screen is black. any ideas?
thanks

arvair said:
No, it doesn't work, now it doesn't even start to boot...
when i connect the cable it recognizeses, but the screen is black. any ideas?
thanks
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Some SBF should work. Try wiping cache in stock recovery
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Still stuck
DeMonHell82 said:
just to be sure you know it: when your battery is totally discharged, computer's usb doesn't give enough power to completely boot. (at least for me).
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So are you saying that my issue might still be a dead battery, despite the fact that my computer and RSD notice when I turn on and off the phone, and even though the phone has enough power to tell me "SW update in progress" when I flash the SBF, and RSD says the flash is a "PASS" and that the phone is being rebooted? I'm really asking, not being sarcastic. Thanks!

DefyVictim said:
So are you saying that my issue might still be a dead battery, despite the fact that my computer and RSD notice when I turn on and off the phone, and even though the phone has enough power to tell me "SW update in progress" when I flash the SBF, and RSD says the flash is a "PASS" and that the phone is being rebooted? I'm really asking, not being sarcastic. Thanks!
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can't be sure, i'm just guessing.
I just know that the download mode doesn't use as much power as the full android booting up. In fact trying to boot a dead (0%) battery with pc's usb, lead to boot loop in my case or no boot at all.
But of course you need to be sure to have a 70-80% charged battery. Try mcgyver on one of yours.
if this fails you need to check as well with other SBFs

Which SBF
DeMonHell82 said:
can't be sure, i'm just guessing.
I just know that the download mode doesn't use as much power as the full android booting up. In fact trying to boot a dead (0%) battery with pc's usb, lead to boot loop in my case or no boot at all.
But of course you need to be sure to have a 70-80% charged battery. Try mcgyver on one of yours.
if this fails you need to check as well with other SBFs
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Exactly which SBF should I be using?? (I'm on T Mobile in the US, although I bought the phone unlocked). I had been running Android 2.2.1. The phone was NOT rooted.

DefyVictim said:
Exactly which SBF should I be using?? (I'm on T Mobile in the US, although I bought the phone unlocked). I had been running Android 2.2.1. The phone was NOT rooted.
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i really don't know which one is the right one for you. i use the one for MB525, Tim italy.
You should carefully check between the lists in this post for your model/carrier :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982 (section Official SBFs)
Be careful because MB525 (defy) and MB526 (defy+) have differents SBFs.

DeMonHell82 said:
First of all, you need to get the battery charged somehow. Here's some possibilities:
borrow from someone a "defy's battery compatible phone" and charge your battery inside that phone. A Defy or a Defy+ or a DroidX would work.
try to get an external battery charger
WARNING it's potentially dangerous: method B from this post (MacGyver way): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892026 :
Then you can go download mode and restore sbf.
---------- Post added at 12:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:31 PM ----------
Which one sbf have you tried?
Are you sure is the right one? If yes, have you checked if it's corrupted or have your tried to redownload it?
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I'm not sure it's the right one. It was the T-Mobile for USA one. However it said it passed, so I don't think corruption is the issue.

[Q] Defy bricked. Wont turn on, only white led on pc

I had cm11 (or 10, not sure) installed for about a month now (back in december) .... Went on a trip, and when coming back my phone battery ran out at the airport somehow, but i had fully charged it and i was not out all day enough for it to run out fully... I take my phone home, not really giving it much importance, and i noticed it was stuck on the bootlogo.. so i went into recovery and tried to re-flash the rom and fix it, but when i was installing the ROM again, the phone shut off randomly (i heard that happened with a certain recovery menu software sometimes, i cant remember the name)... then the phone wouldn't charge and/or turn on, and when I connect it to the pc, nothing happens other than the white led coming on.. RSD won't recognize it...
So i found out i had to charge the battery manually, and used a Universal Charger... Still, no recognition by RSD Lite...
Finally, i found a way:
1. Open RSDLite
2. Connect phone (no battery on it)
3. While holding Power + Vol Up, put the battery in
4. RSD will recognize your phone!
Problem is, it recognizes my MB525 as "S Flash OMAP0360"
And when i try to flash a .sbf i used previously to recover my phone (had bricked it before by trying to change ROMs in a sloppy manner), it seems to flash smoothly, but when it's going to reboot the phone, the progress goes up to 100% and then asks me to reboot it manually.. I read somewhere that to fix that i should take the battery out, disconnect the phone, put it back in, and make RSD recognize it like i mentioned before...... and after RSDLite says flashing is PASSED, the phone still won't turn on... I have tried at least three times and gotten the same result... Help?
The SBF i am using (because it helped me save my phone before) is:
JORLA_U3_3.4.2_107-9_SIGNED_USAJORDMR1B25TIGCOLA01E.0R_JORLAFROTIGCOL A_P009_A002_M010_HWp3_WIG146037_Service1FF.sbf
EDIT: Also, i read somewhere that when all you get is the white led (when connecting to PC) it means that your battery is not charged enough for flashing.. ?
I don't know what to do?? I read that defy's are really hard to brick... But mine got bricked out of nowhere.. wtf?

Niko. said:
I had cm11 (or 10, not sure) installed for about a month now (back in december) .... Went on a trip, and when coming back my phone battery ran out at the airport somehow, but i had fully charged it and i was not out all day enough for it to run out fully... I take my phone home, not really giving it much importance, and i noticed it was stuck on the bootlogo.. so i went into recovery and tried to re-flash the rom and fix it, but when i was installing the ROM again, the phone shut off randomly (i heard that happened with a certain recovery menu software sometimes, i cant remember the name)... then the phone wouldn't charge and/or turn on, and when I connect it to the pc, nothing happens other than the white led coming on.. RSD won't recognize it...
So i found out i had to charge the battery manually, and used a Universal Charger... Still, no recognition by RSD Lite...
Finally, i found a way:
1. Open RSDLite
2. Connect phone (no battery on it)
3. While holding Power + Vol Up, put the battery in
4. RSD will recognize your phone!
Problem is, it recognizes my MB525 as "S Flash OMAP0360"
And when i try to flash a .sbf i used previously to recover my phone (had bricked it before by trying to change ROMs in a sloppy manner), it seems to flash smoothly, but when it's going to reboot the phone, the progress goes up to 100% and then asks me to reboot it manually.. I read somewhere that to fix that i should take the battery out, disconnect the phone, put it back in, and make RSD recognize it like i mentioned before...... and after RSDLite says flashing is PASSED, the phone still won't turn on... I have tried at least three times and gotten the same result... Help?
The SBF i am using (because it helped me save my phone before) is:
JORLA_U3_3.4.2_107-9_SIGNED_USAJORDMR1B25TIGCOLA01E.0R_JORLAFROTIGCOL A_P009_A002_M010_HWp3_WIG146037_Service1FF.sbf
EDIT: Also, i read somewhere that when all you get is the white led (when connecting to PC) it means that your battery is not charged enough for flashing.. ?
I don't know what to do?? I read that defy's are really hard to brick... But mine got bricked out of nowhere.. wtf?
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Hey there. Well, if it's still flashable it ain't bricked. I've got my other one to not be recognized (broken bootloader), which is beyond usual repair. So, did you you flash some random SBF before the rescue one you're trying out now? There's a problem with previously flashed GingerBread or Defy+ SBF images. So it would be good to know, what was the SBF running before trying "JORLA_U3_3.4.2_107-9". Also according to http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=27 that is 2.2.1 and there's also a "Android 2.2.2 Blur_Version.34.4.802.MB525.Latam.en.01". Tried that as well?
Anyhow, if the phone is seen by RSDlite it actually powers on and is recoverable. If the screen is just staying black, then you probably tried a downgrade from a Gingerbread SBF and didn't watch out for the BL-version.
If it's a BL-version problem then this might help. Also there is a guide to unbrick. And yes, keep an eye out for the battery level. Best would be an external charger, as the phone does not charge. McGyver way should still work though.
If it shows a LED and is seen over USb, it's not dead (yet)
Also look out for section "Common Problems/Questions" here.

htto said:
Hey there. Well, if it's still flashable it ain't bricked. I've got my other one to not be recognized (broken bootloader), which is beyond usual repair. So, did you you flash some random SBF before the rescue one you're trying out now? There's a problem with previously flashed GingerBread or Defy+ SBF images. So it would be good to know, what was the SBF running before trying "JORLA_U3_3.4.2_107-9". Also according to http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=27 that is 2.2.1 and there's also a "Android 2.2.2 Blur_Version.34.4.802.MB525.Latam.en.01". Tried that as well?
Anyhow, if the phone is seen by RSDlite it actually powers on and is recoverable. If the screen is just staying black, then you probably tried a downgrade from a Gingerbread SBF and didn't watch out for the BL-version.
If it's a BL-version problem then this might help. Also there is a guide to unbrick. And yes, keep an eye out for the battery level. Best would be an external charger, as the phone does not charge. McGyver way should still work though.
If it shows a LED and is seen over USb, it's not dead (yet)
Also look out for section "Common Problems/Questions" here.
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No, i have not flashed other SBF's ever... only CM roms but i did it through the phone itself, in recovery mode.. I'll try the 2.2.2 one you told me about and see how that works out!
EDIT: No luck, the phone stays at a black screen.. it wont even reboot when RSD is done flashing.. i have to take the battery out and put it in bootloader again for RSD to say it PASSED the flashing

Niko. said:
No, i have not flashed other SBF's ever... only CM roms but i did it through the phone itself, in recovery mode.. I'll try the 2.2.2 one you told me about and see how that works out!
EDIT: No luck, the phone stays at a black screen.. it wont even reboot when RSD is done flashing.. i have to take the battery out and put it in bootloader again for RSD to say it PASSED the flashing
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Too bad Anyway, did you try 8. from here, that is
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If you get " Please manually power up this phone " in RSD Lite pull battery out > put your battery back > reboot into stock recovery by holding Power button and Vol- button > Choose Wipe data/cache > Choose Reboot system now
"? Also holding Power and Vol-Down while inserting battery is said to work.
I wonder if there is an SBF that also flashes cache and userdata partitions...

Nope, it just stays black-screened.... It only works if i do VOL-UP for bootloader mode, but that doesnt help

Umm, as a shot into the blue: Did you try to reinstall the Defy drivers from Motorola? It seems that missing those hinder RSD lite from detecting the Phone as MB52x and instead just show the Processor identification, i.e. "S Flash OMAP3630"

Try dfp 231. The processor identification is correct( rsdlite has been set up properly).
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thekguy said:
Try dfp 231. The processor identification is correct( rsdlite has been set up properly).
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Yeah, it worked also for the defy in this thread.
And just for reference the original thread with the hinted SBF:in post #4
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WIIII i have successfull unbriked my defy with this rom
defyplus_u3_4.5.1-134_dfp-231_cn_sign_ucadefyemarab1b50aa009.0r_pds03c_usajr dngibrird15_p015_a030_service1ff.sbf.gz
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Basically had the same BL7-problem.

htto said:
Yeah, it worked also for the defy in this thread.
And just for reference the original thread with the hinted SBF:in post #4
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WIIII i have successfull unbriked my defy with this rom
defyplus_u3_4.5.1-134_dfp-231_cn_sign_ucadefyemarab1b50aa009.0r_pds03c_usajr dngibrird15_p015_a030_service1ff.sbf.gz
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Basically had the same BL7-problem.
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wtf, the phone flashed correctly and everything but the screen won't turn on.... The computer recognizes it as MB526 now, and i can touch the home button and stuff and it will vibrate like it used to when it worked... i can also make the ringtones play using the moto portal page... Everything works (except for calls) other than the fact that i still have a black screen... the screen just wont turn on... Also it said it had very little internal memory compared to what it had before (had at least 2 gb i think.. now not even one)
I had sent the phone over to fix, and they told me it was unfixable... Is it possible that the guy (it wasnt an official company) who "tried to fix it" simply took parts out of it ? -_- (if he had taken parts out of it im guessing the phone wouldnt turn on at all..?)
What can i do to turn the screen on??
EDIT: i flashed DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_GR_SIGN_UCADEFYEMARAB1B80AA004.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTCEE_P022_A022_Service1FF.sbf
I couldnt find the one you posted there so i did the central europe one...

Niko. said:
wtf, the phone flashed correctly and everything but the screen won't turn on.... The computer recognizes it as MB526 now, and i can touch the home button and stuff and it will vibrate like it used to when it worked... i can also make the ringtones play using the moto portal page... Everything works (except for calls) other than the fact that i still have a black screen... the screen just wont turn on... Also it said it had very little internal memory compared to what it had before (had at least 2 gb i think.. now not even one)
I had sent the phone over to fix, and they told me it was unfixable... Is it possible that the guy (it wasnt an official company) who "tried to fix it" simply took parts out of it ? -_- (if he had taken parts out of it im guessing the phone wouldnt turn on at all..?)
What can i do to turn the screen on??
EDIT: i flashed DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_GR_SIGN_UCADEFYEMARAB1B80AA004.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTCEE_P022_A022_Service1FF.sbf
I couldnt find the one you posted there so i did the central europe one...
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Umm, according to this thread it is supposed to be this one.
The GR vs CN maybe doesn't make a difference, but maybe the P022_A022 vs. P015_A030?
Doesn't a working phone portal allow for somehow to get logs/adb etc?