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http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/atandt-makes-sweeping-changes-to-data-plans-iphone-tethering-comi/
http://gizmodo.com/5553418/att-just-killed-unlimited-wireless-data-and-screwed-everybody-in-the-process
those are the giz and engadget links.
basically they are getting rid of unlimited data and are charging you buy the megabyte/gigabyte. it's 15 a month for 200mb and 25 a month for 2gb. if you go over the 200mb limit on that plan it's another 15$ for 200mb that month. so that means for 1gb of use on that plan your paying 65$ for 1 gb on that plan. and if your on the 2gb plan it's 10$ for another 1gb. only good thing is if you use more than 200 you can switch to the higher priced plan and save some money, and it seems you can do this on a month to month basis.
there is a lot more stuff in the articles you guys should read. but honestly we shouldn't complain about the 10 dollars extra for the evo. for that ten dollars we get unlimited txt, unlimited data, and unlimited mobile to mobile. no other carrier can provide this. on other carries txting alone costs like an extra 20 a month for unlimited.
you know what i'll be happy to pay the 10 a month on the evo even though i live in miami without 4g. that 120 a year will just help get 4g out to everyone faster. we're lucky it's just ten. look at what other carriers are doing, we are really lucky.
good now more people will be coming to sprint lol
Nice! iPhone users will suck it up. haha that's funny new iPhone will users will love this
Haha this is sad. Happy i switched to flexpay
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i was going over my plan with a sprint rep the other day just to make sure i was ready for the evo and she told me that the unlimited mobile-to-mobile is ANY mobile, across any carrier! i had just assumed it was in-network mobiles.
thats freakin' AWESOME. way to go sprint
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i was going over my plan with a sprint rep the other day just to make sure i was ready for the evo and she told me that the unlimited mobile-to-mobile is ANY mobile, across any carrier! i had just assumed it was in-network mobiles.
thats freakin' AWESOME. way to go sprint
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Yep, "Any mobile, any time." It's saved me so many minutes, and you get it long as you have an everything data plan.
Thank God I'm switching from AT&T. The new data plan prices are asanine. The point of getting an iPhone is to promote more web use. In life I learned that if you have too little of something you tend to need/use/want more. AT&T will make a killing off overage buckets.
Netflix is supposedly coming to the iPhone. Are you telling me that 200mb a month will suffice when streaming a movie. You will easily use that just watching ONE movie. You have to be a fool to even consider those plans an option.
To be honest, if it was not for Sprint's price, I would be with Verizon. So the extra $10 is not a super deal breaker... it is just annoying, but still maybe a bit cheaper then Verizon. I just hope that those extra $10 help install a bunch of
4G towers everywhere because I want to get my money's worth.
What annoys me is that I am supposed to get unlimited, but it was always known to have a soft cap at 5gb. So now I bet they will enforce it. Does my $10 make it truly unlimited in 4G AND 3G? I get no clear answer here. Because I KNOW that I will be on 3G more than 4G...
Also... I used to get free tethering in Sprint with my plan (I have a shared plan with my wife, 1500 mins, unlimited) Do I no longer get that? Do I have to pay the stupid $30/month for that? That is what annoys me.
Also what will happen when/if they go to 2.2? Will they disable the hotspot in Froyo?
As far as ATT is concerned... I just feel sorry for them, and for those that have to use them. Verizon makes a good point that your phone is only as good as your network, and theirs sucks. My buddy has to walk outside to send a text on his iphone. Many of the people I work with have Iphones that don't work well at all where we are. They would rather deal with THAT then give them up. I feel sorry for them to be that blinded. Have a phone that does not work at your place of work just to have an iphone... that is retarded.
$250/mo with AT&T or Less than $100/mo with Sprint. I could care less about the $10 premium for 4G considering how much I used to pay. I believe that these new plans will drive many people away.
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To be honest, if it was not for Sprint's price, I would be with Verizon. So the extra $10 is not a super deal breaker... it is just annoying, but still maybe a bit cheaper then Verizon. I just hope that those extra $10 help install a bunch of
4G towers everywhere because I want to get my money's worth.
What annoys me is that I am supposed to get unlimited, but it was always known to have a soft cap at 5gb. So now I bet they will enforce it. Does my $10 make it truly unlimited in 4G AND 3G? I get no clear answer here. Because I KNOW that I will be on 3G more than 4G...
Also... I used to get free tethering in Sprint with my plan (I have a shared plan with my wife, 1500 mins, unlimited) Do I no longer get that? Do I have to pay the stupid $30/month for that? That is what annoys me.
Also what will happen when/if they go to 2.2? Will they disable the hotspot in Froyo?
As far as ATT is concerned... I just feel sorry for them, and for those that have to use them. Verizon makes a good point that your phone is only as good as your network, and theirs sucks. My buddy has to walk outside to send a text on his iphone. Many of the people I work with have Iphones that don't work well at all where we are. They would rather deal with THAT then give them up. I feel sorry for them to be that blinded. Have a phone that does not work at your place of work just to have an iphone... that is retarded.
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never heard of a cap on sprint so don't know about that. and there are at least 5 different ways to tether on an android phone through either root or applications like pda-net. i think it's like 10 dollars and once you buy it you can tether all you want with the program. the 30.00 a month thing is for people who don't know about those type of things.
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Also... I used to get free tethering in Sprint with my plan (I have a shared plan with my wife, 1500 mins, unlimited) Do I no longer get that? Do I have to pay the stupid $30/month for that? That is what annoys me.
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If you tethered with Sprint for "free" you were stealing data.
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that's offensive.
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If you tethered with Sprint for "free" you were stealing data.
that's offensive.
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i always wondered why it was ok to talk about tethering hacks but not about warez / hacked apps... both should be considered stealing.
and i am so over this "anti-retarded" movement. i think it is retarded...
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Thank God I'm switching from AT&T. The new data plan prices are asanine. The point of getting an iPhone is to promote more web use. In life I learned that if you have too little of something you tend to need/use/want more. AT&T will make a killing off overage buckets.
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Keep in mind netflix on the ipad too, that runs on 3g as well and is restricted to the caps
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To be honest, if it was not for Sprint's price, I would be with Verizon. So the extra $10 is not a super deal breaker... it is just annoying, but still maybe a bit cheaper then Verizon. I just hope that those extra $10 help install a bunch of
4G towers everywhere because I want to get my money's worth.
What annoys me is that I am supposed to get unlimited, but it was always known to have a soft cap at 5gb. So now I bet they will enforce it. Does my $10 make it truly unlimited in 4G AND 3G? I get no clear answer here. Because I KNOW that I will be on 3G more than 4G...
Also... I used to get free tethering in Sprint with my plan (I have a shared plan with my wife, 1500 mins, unlimited) Do I no longer get that? Do I have to pay the stupid $30/month for that? That is what annoys me.
Also what will happen when/if they go to 2.2? Will they disable the hotspot in Froyo?
As far as ATT is concerned... I just feel sorry for them, and for those that have to use them. Verizon makes a good point that your phone is only as good as your network, and theirs sucks. My buddy has to walk outside to send a text on his iphone. Many of the people I work with have Iphones that don't work well at all where we are. They would rather deal with THAT then give them up. I feel sorry for them to be that blinded. Have a phone that does not work at your place of work just to have an iphone... that is retarded.
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the limits are:
3g = 5GB/month
4g = real unlimited
and yes sprint will disable tethering in froyo, they disabled gps in the sprint touch so only they could use it with their navigation app(which they charged for)
Yeah i seen the ATT price changes yesterday also. WTF are they thinking? Maybe the iPhone and it generated traffic is actually killing thier network after all. I would blow through 200mb in a day. I am a little over 5gb so far this month with VZW.
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i always wondered why it was ok to talk about tethering hacks but not about warez / hacked apps... both should be considered stealing.
and i am so over this "anti-retarded" movement. i think it is retarded...
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yeah but with tethering it's not like you don't have the ability built in and data is data regardless of device so you shouldn't have to pay so much for the option. 15 or 20 is "reasonable" 30 is a little much in my opinion. and with the new 10 dollars extra we get "truly unlimited data" 3g and 4g. i don't consider it stealing, i consider it circumventing an idiot tax but thats just me.
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...the 30.00 a month thing is for people who don't know about those type of things.
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People who don't know any better will get the $30 tethering package. However, being on XDA probably means that 98% of us know better. I am willing to bet that the following will work:
ROOT + Wi-Fi Tether app = Free Wi-Fi tethering.
actually some one has tried it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694047
this thread has stuff about wifi-tether etc.
Just because you can afford the extra $10 for whatever reason they give, does not negate the fact that its bogus. Changes are always incremental, so if you delay or prevent increases in fees, the less you pay in the long run. By letting any company do this without complaining, it makes it alright in their eyes and they will do it more often. Wouldn't you from a business standpoint?
Besides, Sprint has been bleeding postpaid customers for years, they should continue to bring in new people with the low plans and not tax the higher end users (cuz they know they will pay)
I jsut read about this on engadget app. They said there was a clause in the new EVO4g contract stating that Sprint, at any time, may throttle data usuage. Meaning that they are going to cut it back or limit it somehow. That sounds like they following the AT&T route, to me.
I don't own an Evo yet, but my father has one. I was thinkn about switching back to Sprint. I haven't been with them in almmost 10yrs. They didn't have any unlimited plan back then. Anyways, lol, Sprint has good deals and unlimited plans now. I'm soo stuck on what I want to do. Either wait for Dell Streak on my current carrier, AT&T, or jump ship to Sprint and get the new EVO. My father loves the fact of being able to video chat thru Fring, which I put him on to. . Lol. He said it wrks great. So I'm at a crossroads of what I want to get. Then now sprint talkin bout cutting back data. Damn. I need unlimited, like I have now. I stay with carrier, I'm grandfathered in, as far as unlimited data goes. Even if I upgrade to the dell streak. I'm worried now that sprint gonna end their unlimited data. So I guess I better hurry in decide b4 the transition takes effect.
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I jsut read about this on engadget app. They said there was a clause in the new EVO4g contract stating that Sprint, at any time, may throttle data usuage. Meaning that they are going to cut it back or limit it somehow. That sounds like they following the AT&T route, to me.
I don't own an Evo yet, but my father has one. I was thinkn about switching back to Sprint. I haven't been with them in almmost 10yrs. They didn't have any unlimited plan back then. Anyways, lol, Sprint has good deals and unlimited plans now. I'm soo stuck on what I want to do. Either wait for Dell Streak on my current carrier, AT&T, or jump ship to Sprint and get the new EVO. My father loves the fact of being able to video chat thru Fring, which I put him on to. . Lol. He said it wrks great. So I'm at a crossroads of what I want to get. Then now sprint talkin bout cutting back data. Damn. I need unlimited, like I have now. I stay with carrier, I'm grandfathered in, as far as unlimited data goes. Even if I upgrade to the dell streak. I'm worried now that sprint gonna end their unlimited data. So I guess I better hurry in decide b4 the transition takes effect.
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That is all rumor, the picture isnt even the entire article. The terms and conditions already have data throttling in it, it says anything over 5GB would be throttled on any mifi/modem/phone as modem plans. NOTHING about the EVO 4g being throttled, other than the Engadget article gear twards it.
According to the Terms and Conditions online they already have it in there that they can limit any phone as modem data > 5GB a month. It also says that they CAN AND WILL change any plan data/service/ anything at any time, but scrolling down further says that if any change adversely affects you, you may call in and cancel without ETF's within 30 days of notice.
Right now, you really can't beat the EVO in terms of features.
As far as cost goes, I would say it is on par with most of the other carriers, give or take 10 dollars/mo.
I guess it really boils down to how good of service you are getting.
I just switched over from Tmo after 10 years, I think they were resting on their laurels. I don't have one bad thing to say about Tmo though. But I really had to have the EVO and it was worth the $10 dollars a month "Premium". After all is said and done, its about the same price as my G1 in terms of contract costs.
One bonus is that I will probably be able to drop my Brighthouse cable in a few month when 4G hits this area. I know there is rumors about a Cap, but I was told it was unlimited and that was the whole point of the extra 10 dollars month.
My Tmo plan was $89.99 for Unlimited Everything and My current Sprint Plan is $69.99 + $10 Premium (Only 450 Minutes to Landlines). Its a little awkward, but realistically, it works out for me. And If I find the real need for more landlines minutes, then it will just put me back on par with Tmo.
I just hope their service has improved from times past. I know Sprint and Nextel get no love around these parts (Tampa, FL).
I jsut read about this on engadget app. They said there was a clause in the new EVO4g contract stating that Sprint, at any time, may throttle data us
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That is all rumor, the picture isnt even the entire article. The terms and conditions already have data throttling in it, it says anything over 5GB would be throttled on any mifi/modem/phone as modem plans. NOTHING about the EVO 4g being throttled, other than the Engadget article gear twards it.
According to the Terms and Conditions online they already have it in there that they can limit any phone as modem data > 5GB a month. It also says that they CAN AND WILL change any plan data/service/ anything at any time, but scrolling down further says that if any change adversely affects you, you may call in and cancel without ETF's within 30 days of notice.
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Thnkx for clearing that up. Now I know the details. I have a feelin ima be jumping ship soon. Iphone4 is cool but not cooler thn Evo. ;-) I now need 4 in. Or betta..lmao.
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I just hope their service has improved from times past. I know Sprint and Nextel get no love around these parts (Tampa, FL).
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I'm in Tampa and I am mostly in the Brandon, Plant City, and Temple terrace areas and I can tell you I am loving sprint. I switched from TMO with my Nexus One. I had decent 3g with TMO but not everywhere and when I did have 3g average was getting 500 - 600kbps on average and never above 1100kbps. Well since switching to sprint not once have I dropped 3g and I average 800 to 1100kbps and occasionally I will hit 2200 - 2400kbps. From my experience Sprint 3g is a lot faster than TMO and much better signal in the area.
Throttling is better than overage charging. I'd be really surprised if their limit is the same as AT&T's before overages (2GB). I'm holding out hope that they'll stick to 5GB.
Also, I bet the throttling cap is either higher on 4G or non-existent.
I applaud carriers that protect their non-abusive customers from the abusive ones that download torrent's/youtube/pandora 24-7.
I couldn't imagine how bad the network might get if Sprint did not do this and everyone could then replace their home WiFi internet with the mobile hotspot feature. 5gb is more than enough for any customer out there. The one's that cry "but...but...but... we signed up for unlimited! Waaahhh!!!" are the ones abusing the system.
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I applaud carriers that protect their non-abusive customers from the abusive ones that download torrent's/youtube/pandora 24-7.
I couldn't imagine how bad the network might get if Sprint did not do this and everyone could then replace their home WiFi internet with the mobile hotspot feature. 5gb is more than enough for any customer out there. The one's that cry "but...but...but... we signed up for unlimited! Waaahhh!!!" are the ones abusing the system.
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i totally agree with you!
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i totally agree with you!
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But I did sign up for unlimited... Though I do agree with sprints throttling, only if it starts at 5gb+ for 3g and they remove the overage charges for 5gb+
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But I did sign up for unlimited... Though I do agree with sprints throttling, only if it starts at 5gb+ for 3g and they remove the overage charges for 5gb+
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Engadget updated the article and its only regarding business accounts where the businesses want to slow down excessive use on their employees
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ap3604 said:
I applaud carriers that protect their non-abusive customers from the abusive ones that download torrent's/youtube/pandora 24-7.
I couldn't imagine how bad the network might get if Sprint did not do this and everyone could then replace their home WiFi internet with the mobile hotspot feature. 5gb is more than enough for any customer out there. The one's that cry "but...but...but... we signed up for unlimited! Waaahhh!!!" are the ones abusing the system.
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i totally agree with you!
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It's true what they say... great mind's think alike
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Engadget updated the article and its only regarding business accounts where the businesses want to slow down excessive use on their employees
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God I hate Engadget
They had better have a ....accurate display for the data measurer. Maybe new phones will having a shocking synaptic feedback. .. the more data, the more voltage..
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They had better have a ....accurate display for the data measurer. Maybe new phones will having a shocking synaptic feedback. .. the more data, the more voltage..
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But think of the battery life! i don't want to it already hurts so bad, and it'll hurt 2x if i got shocked and because of that battery life took a dive
Yep re-read their article about it. I hands down owned them in their speculation and they then updated their article. Engadget blows.
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Yep re-read their article about it. I hands down owned them in their speculation and they then updated their article. Engadget blows.
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remind me to not trust anything engadget says anymore, they have had more and more false posts lately
All Engadget did was post a REAL picture with REAL clauses from the Sprint service agreement. All the hoopla was caused by tools who think with their emotions instead of their brains. *cough*
Sorry...but stupid opinion
You either offer unlimited and honor it or like ATT cap it. It is a rip off when you label it "unlimited" and then throttle it.
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I applaud carriers that protect their non-abusive customers from the abusive ones that download torrent's/youtube/pandora 24-7.
I couldn't imagine how bad the network might get if Sprint did not do this and everyone could then replace their home WiFi internet with the mobile hotspot feature. 5gb is more than enough for any customer out there. The one's that cry "but...but...but... we signed up for unlimited! Waaahhh!!!" are the ones abusing the system.
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Personally, I would much prefer to have my data speed throttled (after reaching the 5gb cap) than to be charged extra to go over it. Perhaps have this as a choice, though, for those who need the extra speed? Seems like a much better option to me rather than only having 2GB and getting charged twice as much to go over it (even slightly).
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You either offer unlimited and honor it or like ATT cap it. It is a rip off when you label it "unlimited" and then throttle it.
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Um, every cellular carrier in the US caps their data usage. Ever since the inclusion of unlimited data plans, they've all been capped at 5GB/month, up until AT&T decided it would be "smarter" to lower the cap to 2GB (while barely lowering prices - half the usage should be HALF THE PRICE, MORONS).
They use the term "unlimited" as a PR term, not a literal one. When was the last time you hit 5GB on a cell phone? You really have to work at it, or try to replace your home internet service with it. It's practically unlimited, because it's such a hard gate to hit.
It's like Boost Mobile claiming to have unlimited web; sure, it's unlimited, but good luck using it.
Got TMO Nexus owners ?
Tether or hotspot your laptop all day long like me ?
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-reducing-data-cap-will-throttle-speeds-after-5gb-of-usage
Oh no! damn. This sucks.
That's fair. No extra charges.
It is unfortunate, but it was inevitable. As long as there are no extra charges, 5 GB of 3G speed seems fair. Blame everyone who abused their connections >:|
This seems fair, at least its not like 2gb and overage like those poor suckers on ATT
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5 GB on a mobile device is a lot to use. Are you guys streaming HD movies on your phone or somethin??
I agree seems fair. Att is going down hill fast.
FWIW I had 5 gig tehter plan on blackberry as my main internet connection for two months. I came very close but never hit 5 gigs. This was 8 hours a day at work + pleasure.
Id rather have a choice than be stuck with either.
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dude 5gigs is a **** ton... if you are blowing over that every month then you prolly need to look into using wifi a bit more often...
didn't know 10Gb cap.
how slow will it be? i wanna watch streaming video on bed.
Just be glad you're not in the UK, most carriers here limit you to 500Mb now.
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Just be glad you're not in the UK, most carriers here limit you to 500Mb now.
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Oh wow, that would REALLY suck. I definitely go over that easily every month. I have never come close to 5gb though. I'm on AT&T right now with a grandfathered unlimited plan, so I'm ok (for now).
At least the TMO unlimited plan is still unlimited, just at a slower speed once the 5GB is reached. With other carriers charging for overages, I'm not sure how they (the other carriers) can get away with calling it "unlimited".
im guessing this doesnt affect tzones ($5 plan) users... since when i goto my account, even if ive been using over 2gb of data that month, it says ive used zero data... im guessing this is because everything is going through a proxy
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im guessing this doesnt affect tzones ($5 plan) users... since when i goto my account, even if ive been using over 2gb of data that month, it says ive used zero data... im guessing this is because everything is going through a proxy
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wow i never thought of that actually...
can the proxy setting be used for other data plans to bypass this data cap? I normally use 6 to 8gb per month as the tether is my only internet access.
The 5GB limit is fair. At least they don't charge you for overages like ATT. My buddy has a 200MB plan because ATT f-ed him when he tried to grandfather his unlimited data plan from ~3 years ago. Now he makes me turn on my N1's hotspot whenever we hang out.
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My jaw nearly hit the floor when I read that, and then read people complaining about it
I'm around 1.5-2GB per month right now and don't believe that I'll ever read 5GB unless I start downloading huge files all day! I believe this is the right way to treat customers compared to the "big two's" plan. Also, I'm a loyal T-Mobile customer for 7 years now.
I can live with 5GB limit...but they better never change it again to any lower
Victimized ?
Tomorrow (paintball day heheh) is the throttle day.
Post up if your a victim.
This is not another rant about the $10 fee but an observation that I thought funny enough to share. Turns out that Sprint is paying a wholesale fee of around $4.46 per 4G capable phone to Clearwire for 4G access. Multiply that by the 810,000 or so EVO's and Epics on the network and it adds up pretty good. But get this...Sprint says that around 364,500 of those phones "are in areas with no 4G coverage so they don't think they should have to pay the $4.46 fee" as agreed to in the contract they willingly signed with Clearwire. Does this sound at all familiar? LMAO this is classic!!!
http://www.betanews.com/article/Spr...4Gcapable-devices-that-only-use-3G/1289586055
That's hilarious. So true though. Sprint don't want to pay the fees for those that aren't in 4G coverage yet they [Sprint] want to continue getting $10/month for those subscribers still.
Sprint wants to have their cake and eat it too.
well i mean i dont mind paying the extra 10 even though i dont live in a 4g market.Its still so much better than any other carrier. it still takes off the 5gb cap and with that aside, sprint needs the extra cash to expand their network. They gotta get it from somewhere.
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well i mean i dont mind paying the extra 10 even though i dont live in a 4g market.Its still so much better than any other carrier. it still takes off the 5gb cap and with that aside, sprint needs the extra cash to expand their network. They gotta get it from somewhere.
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Off topic, but there was/is no 5gb data cap on phones, that's for data cards only.
Also, lmao at the 4g fees for Sprint, too much!
Hey... This thing makes phone calls too!
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Off topic, but there was/is no 5gb data cap on phones, that's for data cards only.
Also, lmao at the 4g fees for Sprint, too much!
Hey... This thing makes phone calls too!
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I do not agree. When you sign up for unlimited 3G data on any other sprint phone, The data isnt really "unlimited" they cap it off at 5gb. if you go over, they have the right to say that you're abusing the data and will cut off your internet or service altogether. And with the extra $10 we are paying, we can use as much data with no cap on either 3g or wimax.
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I do not agree. When you sign up for unlimited 3G data on any other sprint phone, The data isnt really "unlimited" they cap it off at 5gb. if you go over, they have the right to say that you're abusing the data and will cut off your internet or service altogether. And with the extra $10 we are paying, we can use as much data with no cap on either 3g or wimax.
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I don't really want to have the whole debate, but you should read the terms and conditions for the unlimited plan. It says that they can cancel or limit you if you use too much roaming data/minutes. If you stay in network, it is unlimited. However, they can limit/cancel you if you are abusing the network, like downloading torrents 24/7.
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Off topic, but there was/is no 5gb data cap on phones, that's for data cards only.
Also, lmao at the 4g fees for Sprint, too much!
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nope there are caps on everyones unlimited data
Did you guys ever consider that the charge from Clearwire came first and is the cause of Sprint's fee? Perhaps if Clear hadn't demanded a fee for every phone sold, Sprint would be more considering in not charging those without 4G. They really have their hands tied if Clear is going to charge on a per phone basis.
I don't see it as Sprint getting "payback" served to them, as the fee they are fighting is the reason we get charged in the first place. Now, if Sprint wins the case, and continues to charge those without 4G, well then they just suck.
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That's hilarious. So true though. Sprint don't want to pay the fees for those that aren't in 4G coverage yet they [Sprint] want to continue getting $10/month for those subscribers still.
Sprint wants to have their cake and eat it too.
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well maybe if they didn't have to pay the fee for all phones, they'd change their policy on the fees they charge us.
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Did you guys ever consider that the charge from Clearwire came first and is the cause of Sprint's fee? Perhaps if Clear hadn't demanded a fee for every phone sold, Sprint would be more considering in not charging those without 4G. They really have their hands tied if Clear is going to charge on a per phone basis.
I don't see it as Sprint getting "payback" served to them, as the fee they are fighting is the reason we get charged in the first place. Now, if Sprint wins the case, and continues to charge those without 4G, well then they just suck.
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Clearwire is running out of money as it is, I'd hate to think what our 4G coverage would look like if they hadn't been collecting that fee for every phone.
This made my night. Funny to see Sprint complaining about their own fee.
I love my EVO and wouldn't trade it for anything, but for the love of god I live in the middle of a WiMax enabled city (Las Vegas, the first to get WiMax) and I don't even receive it at my house. Outside, inside, or around the block. There's a massive detention basin next to my house and it eats radio frequencies like none other.
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Guys, Guys...
The fee isn't for 4G. It's for the boost of our data experience with our phone's amazing services and features.
I bought my EVO on Craigslist and I'm nearly out of contract. If they don't let me drop my $10 premium data feature then, I'll be rockin' a G2 pretty quick.
illogic6 said:
Guys, Guys...
The fee isn't for 4G. It's for the boost of our data experience with our phone's amazing services and features.
I bought my EVO on Craigslist and I'm nearly out of contract. If they don't let me drop my $10 premium data feature then, I'll be rockin' a G2 pretty quick.
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Enjoy the G2, the $10 charge is not an option.
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illogic6 said:
Guys, Guys...
The fee isn't for 4G. It's for the boost of our data experience with our phone's amazing services and features.
I bought my EVO on Craigslist and I'm nearly out of contract. If they don't let me drop my $10 premium data feature then, I'll be rockin' a G2 pretty quick.
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Let's see here...
The price you're paying to Sprint with that $10 premium data feature: $79.99
The price you'd be paying to T-Mobile with your fancy new G2: $79.99
Yea I guess it's a good thing that T-Mobile doesn't have that required $10 premium data feature.
EDIT: I suppose the argument you could make here is that T-Mobile doesn't require you to have unlimited texting so you could drop that so you'd only be paying $69.99 a month.
darkkterror said:
Let's see here...
The price you're paying to Sprint with that $10 premium data feature: $79.99
The price you'd be paying to T-Mobile with your fancy new G2: $79.99
Yea I guess it's a good thing that T-Mobile doesn't have that required $10 premium data feature.
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On T-Mobile I can opt to not have a data plan at all if I've bought the phone without a contract. Not the case with Sprint.
I have wifi at home and at work. I can go without everywhere else.
DirtyShroomz said:
Enjoy the G2, the $10 charge is not an option.
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I realize this, but 24mos of $10 credit a month is an option.
illogic6 said:
On T-Mobile I can opt to not have a data plan at all if I've bought the phone without a contract. Not the case with Sprint.
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I could be wrong but no you can't, not on a "smart phone". What's the point in having a G2 without a data plan again?
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DirtyShroomz said:
I could be wrong but no you can't, not on a "smart phone". What's the point in having a G2 without a data plan again?
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I did it with my G1 at least.
illogic6 said:
I did it with my G1 at least.
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They do require either $30 for unlimited or $10 for 200mb.
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DirtyShroomz said:
They do require either $30 for unlimited or $10 for 200mb.
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Don't forget about their data caps.
Mastadivinity said:
Don't forget about their data caps.
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Ha ha
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http://androidspin.com/2011/03/01/verizon-tiered-data-plans-this-summer/
Poor people
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people can't really be surprised about this
sigh, I was actually considering switching to verizon, sprint seems to hate detroit.i guess that solidifies sticking with sprint.i don't think I could get by with a 2gb allotment per month considering I average 3gb now. Hopefully sprint realizes their unlimited data is a major aspect they have going for them and don't follow suit.
lmao just another reason to stay with sprint
i use a ton of data on my phone, but only about 50mb on 4g, as im always on wifi. 2gb would be plenty for 99% of users.
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It wont be long before Sprint announces the same thing. Book it. Every advantage they had over the larger carriers is being taken away. From S|P changes, to 10 dollar premium data to all smartphones. They will most certainly follow suit.
Yeah, no big surprise there. Just a matter of time til Sprint does the same, honestly. You guys don't really think Sprint's gonna keep their plans unlimited forever, do you? Too bad we don't have a reasonably priced carrier with good phones that doesn't pull the rug out on ya here in the U.S. As soon as you're happy with a carrier, they change something on you, in order to make more money. Sorry, but they're all businesses, and I have the same level of loyalty to Sprint that they have to me (aka none whatsoever). I've just been kinda pissed since the Sprint bait and switch over their Premier status thing. *End rant. Back to happy old me.
The reason Sprint added the $10 charge is to keep plans unlimited. They are not switching anytime soon.
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I hope tiered plans come to Sprint SOON! I rather pay for what I plan on using instead of paying for bandwidth I don't use.
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It boggles my mind that people (none in this thread) can complain about the $10 premium data charge. Sprint never charged for data before and now they charge only $10. Would people rather pay $30 a month for 5gb or $10 a month for unlimited? Seems like a no brainer to me.
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I can't say one way or the other what Sprint will do or won't do b/c I don't work on the top level of Sprint... but what I can say is that I will be really pissed if they follow suit here with these capitalistic companies... I hate AT&T...never been with any one else except Sprint.... not since... PRIMECo ::head bangs:: but yeah - I have no problem with Sprint so far as they don't change to this crap... I am trying to get my wife to switch to sprint...(she is with AT&T) and they would really be stupid if they make my fight harder...
I mean look at SONY. If I wasnt sort of a non official spokes person for the PS3 - they wouldnt have made 13 sales... I sold 13 friends on the PS3 b/c they couldnt sell me on a XOBX...(I wrote it like that on purpose)... Imagine what sprint will be able to do if they continue to keep unlimited - truely UNLIMITED...
With Sprints data woes as of lately do you honestly think unlimited data is going to last forever? lol...
if we go with LTE... we will lose too...
wimax is what we need to keep on sprint.
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With Sprints data woes as of lately do you honestly think unlimited data is going to last forever? lol...
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LOL True dat! At 100-300 kb/s on average for 3G speeds around my area, it sure will take me more than 1 month to max out a theoretical cap of 2GB per month if it comes to that. The most ****ed up part of it is that even on my current speeds and no 4G in my area, I still had to pay that $10 fee since last summer.
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Sportsplayer612 said:
It boggles my mind that people (none in this thread) can complain about the $10 premium data charge. Sprint never charged for data before and now they charge only $10. Would people rather pay $30 a month for 5gb or $10 a month for unlimited? Seems like a no brainer to me.
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Actually, a lot of people are pissed because of the fact that Sprint refuses to be straight forward about the fee. At first (unofficially), it was a 4G fee. Then when that started getting bad publicity, they tried convincing people that it wasn't for 4g. It was a premium data fee. Nobody even knew what the hell that meant (including Sprint, I think). But the cat was out of the bag. Kind of hard to change your story then. I have no problem with paying the extra $10, personally, especially since I actually get 4g (even though I've used it about 3 times in almost a year). But I do think it sucks how Sprint went about the whole situation. I'd put money on Sprint following suit and getting rid of unlimited data within a year.
right now i'd rather have 4gb of constant 1-2 Mbps instead of the unlimited 500 kbps i get from sprint.
detusueno said:
right now i'd rather have 4gb of constant 1-2 Mbps instead of the unlimited 500 kbps i get from sprint.
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True dat. Sprint's current 3G speeds blow. And 4G sucks down battery. Choose the lesser of the two evils.
live2ride96 said:
Actually, a lot of people are pissed because of the fact that Sprint refuses to be straight forward about the fee. At first (unofficially), it was a 4G fee. Then when that started getting bad publicity, they tried convincing people that it wasn't for 4g. It was a premium data fee. Nobody even knew what the hell that meant (including Sprint, I think). But the cat was out of the bag. Kind of hard to change your story then. I have no problem with paying the extra $10, personally, especially since I actually get 4g (even though I've used it about 3 times in almost a year). But I do think it sucks how Sprint went about the whole situation. I'd put money on Sprint following suit and getting rid of unlimited data within a year.
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They never once said it was a 4G fee, it has and always will be a "premium data fee", however people continue to say that it's a 4G fee because only "4G" phones had it at first.
DirtyShroomz said:
They never once said it was a 4G fee, it has and always will be a "premium data fee", however people continue to say that it's a 4G fee because only "4G" phones had it at first.
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If only 4G phones had it at first, then it's a 4G fee no matter how much you and Sprint try to sugarcoat it.
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detusueno said:
right now i'd rather have 4gb of constant 1-2 Mbps instead of the unlimited 500 kbps i get from sprint.
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AMEN!
I'll take a 4GB of consistantly fast data speed over a crappy unlimited 200 kbps (what i'm currently getting from sprint) any day of the week.