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[news] AT&T Pulls the Plug on Its Unlimited Data Plans

Poor att users, I'm so glad I switched to t-mo.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/197755/atandt_pulls_the_plug_on_its_unlimited_data_plans.html
The New AT&T Mobile Data Plans
•· DataPlus is the cheapest plan available, which provides you with 200MB of data for $15 per month, a much better value plan for light data users who pay $30 for the unlimited plan right now. AT&T says that on average, 65 per cent of its customers use less than 200MB per month. If you exceed 200MB in a month, you can get another 200MB for an additional $15.
•· DataPro is the new highbrow mobile data plan from AT&T, which includes 2GB of data for $25 per month, and will charge each additional GB used over this limit at $10. This new plan is designed to replace the outgoing Unlimited plan, as AT&T claims 98 percent of its smartphone customers use on average less than 2GB of data per month.
•· The Tethering plan for iPhones will work only along the $20 per month DataPro plan, and costs an additional $20 monthly. Unfortunately, this extra $20 won't give you any extra GB of data usage, as the 2GB included in the DataPro plan will be shared between your phone and the tethered device. Tethering for iPhones is expected to be available when Apple releases iPhone OS 4 this summer.
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So this is only for new customers right? I'm assuming the customers already on unlimited will keep it correct?

sucks for them. $45 a month for 2GB including tethering optionis just ridiculous.

im sure AT&T will force people to switch to this plan eventually like they did the smartphone plans.

FYI, this is grounds for any current customer to get out of the ETF if they try and force you to switch over before your contract is up.

agreed I feel sorry for you guys, we get screwed with 3 year contracts, but im ok with that since I pay $30 for 6gb and that includes tethering. To pay an extra $20 and not get an increase in your bandwidth limit sucks.

Ouch.
Maybe my girlfriend's iPhone will have a tragic accident so we can get out of Dodge...
*sad face*

pjcforpres said:
FYI, this is grounds for any current customer to get out of the ETF if they try and force you to switch over before your contract is up.
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So is this for sure. I am on ATT right now and been thinking about dropping them and getting a new service. Either Verizon or Tmobile. Even though tmobile isnt all that great its cheaper for a 3 person family plan. AND I would be able to have my N1 on 3G. Edge really sucks.

i don't think the new ETF has taken into effect; i called yesterday and asked how much it would be to get out of my family plan, and the rep gave me numbers based on $175 and not $325; thinking about moving to Sprint (23% discount from employer plus EVO)
also, i don't think this is grounds for getting out of paying ETF since, as of now, customers still have the option to keep current data plans and if they switch, it doesn't renew contract
while this is a bad deal for those who uses data a lot, this is somewhat of a benefit for my dad's iphone (i just checked and since he got the phone, he only uses about 100mb/month) so he can save $15/month

i imagine the unlimited will be grandfathered just like the old 10cent/kb plan i used to have since like 2000
glad ive got the unlimited while it was still available, according to this tiered pricing my bill last month just for data would have been over 50 bucks.

futango said:
So is this for sure. I am on ATT right now and been thinking about dropping them and getting a new service. Either Verizon or Tmobile. Even though tmobile isnt all that great its cheaper for a 3 person family plan. AND I would be able to have my N1 on 3G. Edge really sucks.
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Mmmm, considering what ATT is doing here, I'd say Tmo is great. In addition to the fact that you're stuck using Edge, which adds even more value to Tmo.

futango said:
So is this for sure. I am on ATT right now and been thinking about dropping them and getting a new service. Either Verizon or Tmobile. Even though tmobile isnt all that great its cheaper for a 3 person family plan. AND I would be able to have my N1 on 3G. Edge really sucks.
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you should just call ATT and ask how much it would be if you terminate your contract; you can have an answer directly from them

futango said:
So is this for sure. I am on ATT right now and been thinking about dropping them and getting a new service. Either Verizon or Tmobile. Even though tmobile isnt all that great its cheaper for a 3 person family plan. AND I would be able to have my N1 on 3G. Edge really sucks.
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I doubt it because [according to Engadget] current unlimited data subscribers are welcome to keep their $30/mo plan for as long as they'd like, so you're not being forced to change your plan.
When I first read about the change I thought it sounded pretty bad, but I just checked my data usage and I only use just over 1gb a month despite very very heavy web browsing on my phones. If I tethered often or streamed video, I might not like this plan, but I cannot fathom how much web browsing I'd have to do to go over 2gb a month.

If you guys use the wifi tethering feature, they probably won't be able to detect that you are tethering, right?

What I don't understand is how they will find out if you're tethering?
What if you're using a Nexus One on AT&T with FroYo. How would they know if you're tethering or just using your phone a lot?

yeah this stinks in a way. but all of us are grandfathered in. this is only for new customers. until you sign a new contract you can keep using the current pricing. but after that...
i've been out of contracct for 4 years now and only use unlocked phones, so i guess i could theoretically stay grandfathered indefinitely.

Paul22000 said:
What I don't understand is how they will find out if you're tethering?
What if you're using a Nexus One on AT&T with FroYo. How would they know if you're tethering or just using your phone a lot?
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they really cant tell the difference. so dont even worry about it. the only thing that could give it away is if you blow thru insane amounts of data, and download things like 500mb torrents which obviously gives you away.

Paul22000 said:
What I don't understand is how they will find out if you're tethering?
What if you're using a Nexus One on AT&T with FroYo. How would they know if you're tethering or just using your phone a lot?
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They can't unless they built it into the phone. So if you can get froyo on your att nexus you can tether without paying the fee.
All other 2.2 phones will be modified by their respective carriers to "check in" before enabling the built in tether option.

RogerPodacter said:
they really cant tell the difference. so dont even worry about it. the only thing that could give it away is if you blow thru insane amounts of data, and download things like 500mb torrents which obviously gives you away.
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This is true. I have used my WinMo phones to tether on at&t for quite some time, beginning with HTC Faraday. Back then I called because I was stupid having problems getting the faraday to tether to my personal computer (The one I tested it on was fine) and the guy was like, you have to buy the tether package for $60/month to get the right cable. I was like no I don't, I did it earlier on another PC. He stammered and was like, well, if you try to access data heavy sites like youtube, it probably won't work. I was like okay w/e...hung up, played around, got it to work, and streamed an episode of Family Guy with no problems just to prove him wrong (once I let it DL. stupid EDGE). I've yet to see an extra charge for my data. (even when I was using the $10 MEdia Net package with a smartphone, which I was with the Faraday)

i going to ride out my grandfathered tmobile plan for as long as i can... $5/month for unlimited 3G data and tether/hotspot

Tethering limit?

Is there a new tethering policy in place? I read that it was 10 GB before they trottle you but recent artickes suggests it is in fact only 5 GB? When did this happen?
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Kubernetes said:
I hit 10GB last month (don't ask; had to travel a lot and no free wifi access) but never experienced any throttling. I didn't go over by much, but I never got a message and a check on speedtest showed full throughput.
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Thanks for you input, now we know for sure. So, the changes is from 10 GB no throttling to 5 GB with throttling.
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PaiPiePia said:
Is there a new tethering policy in place? I read that it was 10 GB before they trottle you but recent artickes suggests it is in fact only 5 GB? When did this happen?
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Happens in 15 mins. 10/16/2010

laristech said:
Happens in 15 mins. 10/16/2010
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Oh that suck, there goes the only thing good about TMO network.
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PaiPiePia said:
Oh that suck, there goes the only thing good about TMO network.
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What about the part where T-mobile doesn't charge more for going over the 5 gb cap?

skesseks said:
What about the part where T-mobile doesn't charge more for going over the 5 gb cap?
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Carrier should be doing that in the first place. A recent FCC ruling made it mandatory for ATT to warn the customer when they are about to go over the limit.
I know I will never use the 10 GB (even though the thread title is tethering limit, I actually do not tether), but having something that I used to have (paying for), ripped out of my hands just like that just doesn't feel good.

We don't have a tethering limit, you can blame those that do tether excessively for the reduction in the limit

I dont understand why T-mobile advertises its internet services as UNLIMITED when they pull stuff like this

anthonys2r said:
I dont understand why T-mobile advertises its internet services as UNLIMITED when they pull stuff like this
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It's been debated over many time, and I think the general census is that it is "Unlimited Access " but not "Unlimited Usage". You can access the internet when and where you want, which is the general idea.

From what I understand they don't bill you extra or turn you off, they just throttle you (slow you down) .
I saw the number as 5 gigs, kinda a reasonable number in my book. Even if you were tethering that is a big number if you just surfing and checking email. File sharing, big game downloads, and watching lots of videos would be the only way to hit that number.
Just my two cents
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PaiPiePia said:
It's been debated over many time, and I think the general census is that it is "Unlimited Access " but not "Unlimited Usage". You can access the internet when and where you want, which is the general idea.
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https://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans...-phone-plan&WT.z_unav=mst_shop_plans_internet
T-mobile clearly has Unlimited DATA per month (and 5gb for webConnect plan) so there is a clear distinction between unlimited and 5gb.
(ps. Please understand I am not arguing/getting mad at you, just at t-mobile for pulling this stuff)

ward360 said:
From what I understand they don't bill you extra or turn you off, they just throttle you (slow you down) .
I saw the number as 5 gigs, kinda a reasonable number in my book. Even if you were tethering that is a big number if you just surfing and checking email. File sharing, big game downloads, and watching lots of videos would be the only way to hit that number.
Just my two cents
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It is true, Ill probably never hit that 5gb (I lightly tether, probably, 5 hours a week). But I only tether because my justification is: my data plan costs more than my home internet plan ($30 vs $15) so I try to use it to its full extent. The market for mobile internet is ridiculous..

I swear, prices between data and text message plans is highway robbery. FCC should really do something (beneficial).
/vent

Its unlimited, just not full speed after 5gb.
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anthonys2r said:
It is true, Ill probably never hit that 5gb (I lightly tether, probably, 5 hours a week). But I only tether because my justification is: my data plan costs more than my home internet plan ($30 vs $15) so I try to use it to its full extent. The market for mobile internet is ridiculous..
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Yea, I hear you there, between my wifes phone and my phone we drop alot on mobile internet, and I do tether when needed, but I by no means abuse it, I use about 200 megs a month, through tmoble. I use anywhere from 5 to 60 gigs through my home internet, comcast caps you at 250 gigs a month.
Both companys are just trying to hold up the abusers, file sharing is a major issue, (if I hit anywhere over 10 gigs at home it is because of file sharing)
The abusers are the issue, when one person uses as much as 200 other users it becomes an issue.
I don't agree with it, but I can totally see why they do it. It won't affect 99.99% of user's. And the ones that it does are probably doing things they aren't supposed to.
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Is there a new tethering policy in place? I read that it was 10 GB before they trottle you but recent artickes suggests it is in fact only 5 GB? When did this happen?
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I don't believe T-Mobile ever condoned the use of tethering on any of their devices.
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https://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans...-phone-plan&WT.z_unav=mst_shop_plans_internet
T-mobile clearly has Unlimited DATA per month (and 5gb for webConnect plan) so there is a clear distinction between unlimited and 5gb.
(ps. Please understand I am not arguing/getting mad at you, just at t-mobile for pulling this stuff)
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Pulling what stuff? This has been said before, T-Mobile will allow unlimited usage for their data plan, nothing states that they will not throttle your speeds. If it stated that they didn't in the past and then changed their minds then people would have room to gripe but that isn't the case. If you do not like their service then choose another cellular provider. I think Sprint offers unlimited 4g access when you pay the extra $20 or $25 on top of the fee for the data usage.

I called them abouta year ago when I started tethering on my g1 (of course I didn't tell them that) and they assured me that there is no such limit or charges. It ready is simply unlimited
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TheAdictsPunk said:
I called them abouta year ago when I started tethering on my g1 (of course I didn't tell them that) and they assured me that there is no such limit or charges. It ready is simply unlimited
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The call center reps are not qualified to make that distinction because of their lack of knowledge about the terms of agreement that you had to sign. They will tell you anything to make you happy, that is their job. This is not limited to T-Mobile of course. If you want to a definitive answer then just check your contract. It will state what restrictions there are for the data plan. I had to pull out the contract to make sure I followed the terms of agreement when I was messing with the firmware on a Clear modem they sent me so I could use it with my router and accidentally bricked the modem. I argued for 30 minutes with the rep for a new modem because she believed that messing with firmware for the modem constituted to abusive use of their devices without stating what is abusive use. She sounded pretty new to the job too.

frankwhitten said:
Pulling what stuff? This has been said before, T-Mobile will allow unlimited usage for their data plan, nothing states that they will not throttle your speeds. If it stated that they didn't in the past and then changed their minds then people would have room to gripe but that isn't the case. If you do not like their service then choose another cellular provider. I think Sprint offers unlimited 4g access when you pay the extra $20 or $25 on top of the fee for the data usage.
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Believe me, if most of my friends & family had AT&T, I would've jumped ship a longggg time ago (would've also been much happier & easier on the wallet with the 200mb $15 data plan).

anthonys2r said:
Believe me, if most of my friends & family had AT&T, I would've jumped ship a longggg time ago (would've also been much happier & easier on the wallet with the 200mb $15 data plan).
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Nothing is stopping you or your family and friends from changing providers. That is why there is a free market, don't like on service provider go to the next and so on and so forth. I am not trying to cause an argument, but the old adage, you can't have one's cake and eat it too, applies here.

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I swear, prices between data and text message plans is highway robbery. FCC should really do something (beneficial).
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They are not doing much because (which I just learned the other day) that taxes on cell phone usage (monthly plan) where I live is stunning 18%.
FCC probably want your bill to be as high as possible.
Now, this thread isn't really about tethering, I started because of the fact that T-mobile is reducing the amount from 10 GB to 5 GB. I understand the fair use policy so an artificial cap is fine with me, but don't lower the cap for everyone just because a few people are tethering to their phone, scale those who use more and charge them more.
Now, you might ask: If you never needed more bandwidth, why do you care?
There's distinction of being punished because you did something wrong yourself and there's being punished as a group because of someone else' mistake. If I can have 10 GB a month, I want to keep it at 10 GB a month irregardless of whether I used it up, it's the principle that counts: I signed up knowing there's 10 GB a month of bandwidth and it needs to stay that way.

AT&T Gunning for Tethering Users

Please respond here if you are using the portable wifi feature of your nexus one and getting any SMS or e-mail notification from AT&T that they want you to pay for tethering.
I hear stories about people who get the "unlimited" data plan and then straight up abuse it (by providing internet for their entire household), which is probably why this is happening.
150+GB a month is what I consider abuse btw.

I don't see why you should pay for tethering. I think its just another way for them to make more money. Maybe for some people they don't wanna pay to have a separate internet source when they can use their phones as their internet source. I don't tether since atm I don't have unlimited data lol.
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Should be free and only pay for data...just another reason why I left at$t years ago!

I have T-Mobile and as of right now my "unlimited" is still unlimited but once you exceed 5GB for the month is DRAMATICALLY slows down.
I just moved in to a new place with my wife and son and I'm trying to cut down on extra bills (I'm the only working parent right now) so I don't have internet, I just tether off my phone.
I just exceeded 5GB for the first time ever and its horrible. I'm moving so slow, on my phone that is, its unreal.

uoY_redruM said:
I have T-Mobile and as of right now my "unlimited" is still unlimited but once you exceed 5GB for the month is DRAMATICALLY slows down.
I just moved in to a new place with my wife and son and I'm trying to cut down on extra bills (I'm the only working parent right now) so I don't have internet, I just tether off my phone.
I just exceeded 5GB for the first time ever and its horrible. I'm moving so slow, on my phone that is, its unreal.
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That is a bummer and I'm in simular boat...
Check this work around info for some possible help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863923

The only people getting flagged are iPhone accounts that are extreme abusers.
If you are abusing the service that much, then you should be paying for the higher package IMO.
I tether on my unlimited plan and have never had a problem, but I also don't abuse it. I barely break 1gb a month.

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The only people getting flagged are iPhone accounts that are extreme abusers.
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Because iOS's silly separate tethering config makes it easy to know exactly how much it's getting used. Not so simple on phones that route tethered data through the normal APN.

Yeah, I use tethering on my N1 on AT&T everyday and I haven't gotten anything from them yet. I don't abuse it, but where my house is, sort of in the woods (in Pennsylvania) where I can't get anything better than dial-up, so I use it just for basic email, Facebook, etc.

3UK now offer "all you can eat" data on Pay as you go. i plan to swap my T-Mobile SIM to my old 3 after this contract is up, i really hope the plan is still available then as i can see this being abused from day one!!

I tether my tablet to my phone almost daily, but it's pretty small usage. I am only using 300-400 megs a month on 3G now since AT&T took my unlimited away when they screwed with my account a while back. I mostly update or do stuff on wifi at home.

machina77 said:
3UK now offer "all you can eat" data on Pay as you go. i plan to swap my T-Mobile SIM to my old 3 after this contract is up, i really hope the plan is still available then as i can see this being abused from day one!!
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They don't allow tethering on PAYG. Same as Giffgaff, unlimited data without FUP, but no tethering.

I got a similar message from Cincinnati Bell Wireless, but they have not charged me. I don't really use tethering all that much.

Rusty! said:
They don't allow tethering on PAYG. Same as Giffgaff, unlimited data without FUP, but no tethering.
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Ah! cheers for that info

Doesn't mean they'll ever notice you doing it, of course

XDA is no longer worth my time.

What I am having trouble understanding is what evidence is at&t Mobility using to determine if one is tethering or not.
They have a few choices, but as far as I can tell, none of them are perfect and all will have false positives.
Dan

T-Mobile monthly 4g vs contract

So I usually buy my phones full retail anyway and I use a lot of data. We all know how T-Mobile $70 plan has unlimited everything other than data, 5gb. I dropped by T-Mobile store and their new plan, has unlimited data! Same price, before 15% discount! Problem? Contract... I have 14 days to cancel and just go month to month, but lose unlimited data... What do you guys think?
I've had monthly 4g before and loved speeds, the fact that it wasn't unlimited though...
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Get the $30 plan, use WiFi as much as possible and get SIPDroid

air2k57 said:
So I usually buy my phones full retail anyway and I use a lot of data. We all know how T-Mobile $70 plan has unlimited everything other than data, 5gb. I dropped by T-Mobile store and their new plan, has unlimited data! Same price, before 15% discount! Problem? Contract... I have 14 days to cancel and just go month to month, but lose unlimited data... What do you guys think?
I've had monthly 4g before and loved speeds, the fact that it wasn't unlimited though...
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Yeah, the Value Plan? I was considering that too, maybe the 500 minute plan with unlimited data for $60 too depending on how much you talk on your phone.
So far I ordered the prepaid sim and going to activate the $30 plan, if I don't like it I can just go to the Value Plan.

One very bad thing about T-Mobile is that any changes you make to your plan, it renews/resets the contract to the current date.
Be very careful with T-Mobile contracts.
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Yes I don't like the idea of a contract,specially since I didn't even get a phone through them...
I was considering $30 a month plan, problem is... I also free lance, at times I use a phone a lot while on the go and VoIP is too unreliable for that in this area. There are spots with very poor T-Mobile data coverage here. So I'm stuck with either unlimited +5gb, or unlimited + contract.
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Its all up to ur usage....
Do u really need unlimited??? On average I use about 1 GB. And a while back when I tried to use as much data as a I can...I only maxed at out about 3 GB. (Bascially Pandora every time I listen to music...which is about 2-3 hours a day total???)
If you tether a lot then its very worth it.
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Do you really use more than 5gb? I think that would REALLY be a challenge for anyone. Keep in mind that unlimited account are generally always monitored for tethering (especially if Tmobile does have a tethering add-on)
I consider myself a very heavy user as I charge my GSM GN 3-4 times a day, cause I always have something running on it (streaming) . The only exception to bring up, is that I use WIFI when I'm home. I've never passed the 3gb mark
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Do you really use more than 5gb? I think that would REALLY be a challenge for anyone. Keep in mind that unlimited account are generally always monitored for tethering (especially if Tmobile does have a tethering add-on)
I consider myself a very heavy user as I charge my GSM GN 3-4 times a day, cause I always have something running on it (streaming) . The only exception to bring up, is that I use WIFI when I'm home. I've never passed the 3gb mark
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I've had my Nexus 4 for about a day and I've already racked up about 1GB pretty easily. I'd recommend one of their value plans. For 69.99 you get truly unlimited, no 5GB throttle point. They require a 2 year contract but if you're sticking with T-Mobile for a while that doesn't really matter. Canceling the contract early is $200 ETF. Without it you'd spend $89.99 for the same plan, so it seems pretty worth it to me. Attached a screenshot of my 1 day usage...

Be a small business owner like me and pay $55 a month for 1000 minutes, unlimited text/4G with no throttling

thrab said:
I've had my Nexus 4 for about a day and I've already racked up about 1GB pretty easily. I'd recommend one of their value plans. For 69.99 you get truly unlimited, no 5GB throttle point. They require a 2 year contract but if you're sticking with T-Mobile for a while that doesn't really matter. Canceling the contract early is $200 ETF. Without it you'd spend $89.99 for the same plan, so it seems pretty worth it to me. Attached a screenshot of my 1 day usage...
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You're probably in the minority here. I'm pretty sure most people aren't spending a majority of their day watching TwitchTV on 4G and tethering....and WiFi is not that hard to come by these days (home/work).
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Do you really use more than 5gb? I think that would REALLY be a challenge for anyone. Keep in mind that unlimited account are generally always monitored for tethering (especially if Tmobile does have a tethering add-on)
I consider myself a very heavy user as I charge my GSM GN 3-4 times a day, cause I always have something running on it (streaming) . The only exception to bring up, is that I use WIFI when I'm home. I've never passed the 3gb mark
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All accounts are monitored for tethering. It isn't hard to use more than 5GB.. Hell ROMs are 200mb each, some of the newer games are up to a GB , plus streaming spotify it's really rather easy for some of us.
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joshnichols189 said:
All accounts are monitored for tethering. It isn't hard to use more than 5GB.. Hell ROMs are 200mb each, some of the newer games are up to a GB , plus streaming spotify it's really rather easy for some of us.
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You have to remember though... if you are going to download a large file, are you going to use WiFi, which is way faster than HSPA+, or are you actually going to download a 200mb ROM over data?
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arich said:
Be a small business owner like me and pay $55 a month for 1000 minutes, unlimited text/4G with no throttling
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That sounds like a good plan.
F0rgiven said:
You're probably in the minority here. I'm pretty sure most people aren't spending a majority of their day watching TwitchTV on 4G and tethering....and WiFi is not that hard to come by these days (home/work).
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Was only maybe a bit over an hour of Twitch (720p stream) while in the car and about 30 minutes tethering while I VPN'd into work on the go. OP had already stated he used a lot of data and is likely to hit the 5GB cap. So while you say "most people", the OP is not most people.

T-Mobile is now throttling those who use excessive amounts of data on the "unlimited"

T-Mobile is now throttling those who use excessive amounts of data on the "unlimited"
http://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/342wr7/tmobile_is_now_throttling_unlimited_data/
This is probably what everyone gets because of those hacking their wifi tether and thinking it's okay to use their cell phone as their home ISP. :good:.
Apparently they've always reserved the right to do this in their TOS, but are just recently starting to enforce it due to heavy abuse.
Update:
T-Mobile CEO John Legere has made comments on the situation
http://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/345oxe/legere_addresses_unlimited_data_prioritization/

Unless you have unlimited high speed data. But ur paying for it out the butt
BAD ASS NOTE 4

Apparently this is affecting everyone, even on the "truly unlimited plans". One person reported a phone rep trying to sell him a 21GB data plan.

People always abuse there data I get your paying for unlimited but nothing in this world is what it seems. I've heard of people using even 500GB of data almost even a terrabite dude. Like WHOA! Who uses that much data? Guess people who don't want to pay for WIFI. It does affect all of us. All that traffic by one individual now imagine thousands. I'm glad they are cracking down on this.

nano303 said:
People always abuse there data I get your paying for unlimited but nothing in this world is what it seems. I've heard of people using even 500GB of data almost even a terrabite dude. Like WHOA! Who uses that much data? Guess people who don't want to pay for WIFI. It does affect all of us. All that traffic by one individual now imagine thousands. I'm glad they are cracking down on this.
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And I'll be the first to admit I have bypassed the tether allowance, but not for use as my main ISP. I've done it to send a few work emails and what not when I'm away from the office. I don't think I've ever gone past 50GB.

nano303 said:
People always abuse there data I get your paying for unlimited but nothing in this world is what it seems. I've heard of people using even 500GB of data almost even a terrabite dude. Like WHOA! Who uses that much data? Guess people who don't want to pay for WIFI. It does affect all of us. All that traffic by one individual now imagine thousands. I'm glad they are cracking down on this.
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Problem is the same as Verizon. They punish those who are just using the unlimited service on their phone by using it as a phone as well.
The whole punish everyone thing seems to be popular anymore.
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I've never passed 20 gb on my plan on the 2 years that I have tmobile. Even when I was tethering when I didn't have WiFi. Be a nice civilian and let us eat! Lol sometimes my speeds are not even 1MG and people with 60mbps I'm sure are the ones that do it the most. Lol..I'm just saying people.

nano303 said:
I've never passed 20 gb on my plan on the 2 years that I have tmobile. Even when I was tethering when I didn't have WiFi. Be a nice civilian and let us eat! Lol sometimes my speeds are not even 1MG and people with 60mbps I'm sure are the ones that do it the most. Lol..I'm just saying people.
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i get why they are doing it but they also mentioned the top 3% of heavy data users. Last time i checked i used 31gigs this month and I have not been throttled yet. Ive seen as far as 60 gigs. I admit, i do download stuff time to time but i never watch tv. I stream all my music while at the gym, i stream netflix/other media apps to my chromecast when at home so yeah, i do use a lot of data. What i dont do is mess with my tethering. I have wifi at home. If i were to be throttled, i would pitch a fit as i would think this isnt fair to discipline a user for using a lot of data when they pay for unlimited.

knarfies said:
i get why they are doing it but they also mentioned the top 3% of heavy data users. Last time i checked i used 31gigs this month and I have not been throttled yet. Ive seen as far as 60 gigs. I admit, i do download stuff time to time but i never watch tv. I stream all my music while at the gym, i stream netflix/other media apps to my chromecast when at home so yeah, i do use a lot of data. What i dont do is mess with my tethering. I have wifi at home. If i were to be throttled, i would pitch a fit as i would think this isnt fair to discipline a user for using a lot of data when they pay for unlimited.
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Dude you pay for unlimited of course your going to use what you pay for lol. I also pay for unlimited(extra $20 a month) and if my speeds where actually good I'll probably be at 25 to 30 GB of data lol but I have WiFi at home.

nano303 said:
Dude you pay for unlimited of course your going to use what you pay for lol. I also pay for unlimited(extra $20 a month) and if my speeds where actually good I'll probably be at 25 to 30 GB of data lol but I have WiFi at home.
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I watch maybe 40 hours a month of Netflix at work. Take a guess what that adds up too. I don't have a WiFi network off an ISP at work.
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Um, I call BS on this reddit post.

This has been happening since last year when they announced it.
The throttle "improper" usage. I think it's a good thinG because too many people abuse it.
http://www.tmonews.com/2014/08/t-mo...s-who-use-unlimited-lte-data-for-torrentsp2p/

Haven't seen a problem.
I did 50GB last month. Currently at 20gb or so. We have 3 lines unlimited Data on Family Plan.

I'm unlimited and rarely use 10 gigs. Just pay for the moments when a WiFi isn't around. I've tethered maybe 500mbs a month, don't see a problem with that. Those using huge amounts for their home should be throttled.
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They better not be throttling my internet I pay for the truly unlimited plan $80 a month per phone I will call lawyer and sue if they are I don't care how much data i use that's why I'm paying $80 a month for Internet

as long as it doesn't affect the *unlimited lte plans* they were offering back in december. i'm good.

techjunkie702 said:
They better not be throttling my internet I pay for the truly unlimited plan $80 a month per phone I will call lawyer and sue if they are I don't care how much data i use that's why I'm paying $80 a month for Internet
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I don't think they're throttling people who are using a ton via legitimate means.
The note did say they will throttle those who are using massive amounts of data via means that are in violation of the terms and conditions of use.
People using hacks to get around tethering limits are one of them.

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I don't think they're throttling people who are using a ton via legitimate means.
The note did say they will throttle those who are using massive amounts of data via means that are in violation of the terms and conditions of use.
People using hacks to get around tethering limits are one of them.
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Nor do I but they might be, at&t did but then again at&t are a bunch of worthless ass hats

Did 132gb last month legit + illegit. No problems there. I did see the hotspot screen a few times but that was it. Don't intend to keep it this much though

Tmobile signal in my area took a dump, called and complained mainly because my signal at work disapeared completely and HSPA+ is non existant around work, only LTE and edge, but LTE signal sucks for going into buildings.
Called Tmobile and they tried to blame my data usage for it....lol.
Was their "advanced repair" and they seem to have 0 idea how it works...*sigh*