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Hey guys, I'm new to the Android community and I'm completely in love with it now that I had the phone for several weeks. Like every other phone I get, I'm always eager to customize it in all the ways possible.
So here is my question, rooting seems simple enough with the great guides you guys have here. However, I've heard that Android 2.2 is right around the corner with new great features. I read that if you upgrade your firmware, it will un-root your phone back to stock.
I'm already hungry to try the new features that a rooted phone can do but I'm thinking that this update is worth waiting for since this phone is new anyways.
Any opinions?
Steps for success:
1. Root phone.
2. Wait for 2.2.
3. Download a 2.2 rom with root.
Were would I find the rooted roms?
DynamicXL said:
Were would I find the rooted roms?
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In the development section.
Its a file you can find . Its not a rom. Your phone will still get the ota even after you root it. Can't say the same for custom roms
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Cool, thanks for the quick responds guys.
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Absolutely ROOT. I have some things to do once rooted in the sticky, please let me know if you have suggestions.
Rooting have nothing to do with ota update but flashing a customer rom will.
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I'm thinking of rooting. My battery life is a joke. The only thing I miss about Nexus One besides trackball notifications.
nick_karstedt said:
Steps for success:
1. Root phone.
2. Wait for 2.2.
3. Download a 2.2 rom with root.
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i second this
Yeah, I think I'm going to root my phone soon. Thanks for the help!
Fuse8499 said:
I'm thinking of rooting. My battery life is a joke. The only thing I miss about Nexus One besides trackball notifications.
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Not sure how rooting your phone is going to solve your battery issues? All that rooting does is give you root (superuser) permissions on your phone. You can do this to remove the bloatware that came preinstalled on the phone, run various apps that require root. But I can't think of any way that it's going to allow you to save battery life that you couldn't already do non-rooted.
My only reason to root was for wifi-tethering...
I know the newer version of Facebook is a battery eater. I switched back to the older style and my phone is happy again.
Root is great.
1. Remove bloat apps
2. Remove the annoying T-mobile jingle
3. Root Explorer is fun to play with
I think thats all I've really done so far. Well I should that I've wanted to really do so far.
Rooting isn't working for me otherwise I would have to agree :-(
^ could you give a little more detail, so we can help?
Do you have the update file named update.zip.zip by accident?
I pretty much had the same question. But after a little reading just now I actually understand what rooting is. Helps that I'm familiar with linux! Attempting to root in 5 4 3...
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So if you don't have a data plan you can't get the ota update? You must root? Mine is on AT&T with no data plan right now.
Isn't there much more to rooting then apps and root control? I've seen all the custome ROMs people get to customize the phone and theme just about everything.
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s15274n said:
^ could you give a little more detail, so we can help?
Do you have the update file named update.zip.zip by accident?
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No I just Have a file named update.zip. I have tried two different methods twice now and once I'm in recovery and go to flash the zip it says it isn't there. I don't know what it is I'm doing wrong.
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So I rooted my phone earlier today. It was unbelievably easy to get the whole set up going.
Haven't had much time to fool around with it yet except for several apps that require root access, mainly to flash and back up my data in case of an oops.
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Since i updated my ns with 2.3.3 my standby time got worse.
I charge at night then i use my phone all day but no calls and a few txt messages but 13h later its allready at 25%. And going lower and lower any minute.
The only thats on is facebook and google and news and weather app
And the screen is on automatic. Others with the same problem?
Is it possible to official go back to 2.3.2?
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Use search :\ the thread right below this one is asking the same thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972542
zephiK said:
Use search :\ the thread right below this one is asking the same thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972542
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But doesnt this void warranty? Is this an official downgrade?
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nielsvg said:
But doesnt this void warranty? Is this an official downgrade?
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It's a Google device with 'fastboot oem unlock' its meant to be hacked. The google.com link is a official link for 2.3.2, so yes it is a official link.
So if it gets bricked its warranty?
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So if it gets bricked its warranty?
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no idea what you're saying to say.
this phone in general (incl. Galaxy S devices) are really hard to brick.
if you're worried and aren't feeling confident then just stay with 2.3.3, its not really that difficult but its up to you
so if i download the link. its a zip file. i name it update.zip place it in root and do
turn off phone
turn on and press volume up
and then recovery and apply update from sd card?
nielsvg said:
so if i download the link. its a zip file. i name it update.zip place it in root and do
turn off phone
turn on and press volume up
and then recovery and apply update from sd card?
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Yes that is correct. The steps are different but very similar if you're using Clockwork Recovery but it seems like you aren't running CWR.
i didnt do anything yet with the phone, its not rooted its all standard out of the box
do i have to do something else?
nielsvg said:
i didnt do anything yet with the phone, its not rooted its all standard out of the box
do i have to do something else?
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Nope. Just follow the steps you mentioned earlier.
In theory, the steps of flashing that SHOULD work if everything is done correct. If not then you'll have to root and get your hands dirty. But honestly, rooting the phone isn't that difficult and it's quite fun.
You'll get to play with a variety of kernels and ROMs that will greatly increase your battery life including recalibrating your battery.
I personally get 30 hours+ with my phone using CM7 + Netarchy 1.2.5-CFS.
Yeah relying on stock won't get you anywhere. I find more battery life dealing with custom kernels. I normally get a day and a half.
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Is there anyway to revert gingerbread back to froyo until the devs can root it? There has got to be a way. Need my net back
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As of right now there is no way to revert back to froyo. Take a look at this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142115
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That sucks..... I cant beleive how much i screwed myself
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well you r not the only one, I hate my self because i clicked upgrade. I lost lost my net on metropcs flashed evo
Yeah i live in a tech dead zone. The only net available is through my phone...
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honorlost84 said:
Is there anyway to revert gingerbread back to froyo until the devs can root it? There has got to be a way. Need my net back
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Yes, you can but it's a pain in the butt. Go to this thread and then download the original stock firmware. Make sure USB debugging is turned on also.
To install the file you need to have HTC Sync installed and running. Double-click the file and it should recognize the phone and start installing after some input from you.
If you get a USB error, try booting into the bootloader and installing the exe in the same manner.
I just did this last night because I was in the same situation. It works.
Now you can re-root.
bnampel said:
Yes, you can but it's a pain in the butt. Go to this thread and then download the original stock firmware. Make sure USB debugging is turned on also.
To install the file you need to have HTC Sync installed and running. Double-click the file and it should recognize the phone and start installing after some input from you.
If you get a USB error, try booting into the bootloader and installing the exe in the same manner.
I just did this last night because I was in the same situation. It works.
Now you can re-root.
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You were able to downgrade to Froyo with this RUU? If so, that's great.. your the only person I've seen post successfully downgrading and being able to root.
bnampel said:
Yes, you can but it's a pain in the butt. Go to this thread and then download the original stock firmware. Make sure USB debugging is turned on also.
To install the file you need to have HTC Sync installed and running. Double-click the file and it should recognize the phone and start installing after some input from you.
If you get a USB error, try booting into the bootloader and installing the exe in the same manner.
I just did this last night because I was in the same situation. It works.
Now you can re-root.
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I think everyone that ran the factory upgrade has tried this and you seem to be the only one that it has worked for. It goes through the motions then you get error 140 or 170 i think: Bootloader version error. Please get the correct rom update utility and try again
I have rooted my phone and installed the rockmod_devroms_2.3.4.1-speedy and broke my root istalling "extras" can I just try the rooting procesess again or have to revert bak to froyo?
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jimbowski51 said:
I have rooted my phone and installed the rockmod_devroms_2.3.4.1-speedy and broke my root istalling "extras" can I just try the rooting procesess again or have to revert bak to froyo?
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What do you mean you broke root? Do you still have s-off and access to recovery?
Lancerz said:
I think everyone that ran the factory upgrade has tried this and you seem to be the only one that it has worked for. It goes through the motions then you get error 140 or 170 i think: Bootloader version error. Please get the correct rom update utility and try again
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I guess I feel pretty lucky then. I'm fairly certain I didn't miss any steps.
When I upgraded to the gingerbread stock ROM I used this link and chose the "no hboot included" option. Maybe that saved me.
bnampel said:
I guess I feel pretty lucky then. I'm fairly certain I didn't miss any steps.
When I upgraded to the gingerbread stock ROM I used this link and chose the "no hboot included" option. Maybe that saved me.
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That's not the same as accepting the ota.
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bnampel said:
I guess I feel pretty lucky then. I'm fairly certain I didn't miss any steps.
When I upgraded to the gingerbread stock ROM I used this link and chose the "no hboot included" option. Maybe that saved me.
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Yeah, you didnt do the ota update then.
Lancerz said:
Yeah, you didnt do the ota update then.
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It's still the same update. Whether I installed it through an OTA update or from the bootloader doesn't matter.
You guys can get into the bootloader right? Take one of those modified "official" updates, rename it to PG06IMG.zip and flash it from the bootloader. Then do my first post and flash to Froyo so you can root again. May be worth a shot.
bnampel said:
It's still the same update. Whether I installed it through an OTA update or from the bootloader doesn't matter.
You guys can get into the bootloader right? Take one of those modified "official" updates, rename it to PG06IMG.zip and flash it from the bootloader. Then do my first post and flash to Froyo so you can root again. May be worth a shot.
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This has already been tried and covered in this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142115&page=2
I posted the same link in the beginning of this thread.
Unless you have an engineering bootloader, like after you rooted, you can only flash an an un modified pg0610.zip from htc. So any one who took an over the air update is SOL on that front. Best hope now is that the evo 3d root can be applied here
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Wow, I almost just majorly screwed myself (again). I have the shift and its just been sitting in my drawer, waiting to be activated after carefully reading thru the forums so i do not true brick it again.
Anyway, for some weird reason, pulled it out just to charge the battery, and it requested to do an update (since it was connected via wifi), it tried and got stuck (praise the Lord) and Im just now reading this realizing I almost just GOOFED UP BIG TIME. So, wanted to take the time to thank the OP for this post which made me aware of the fact that I would be SOL if I had've upgrade and to prevent me from upgrading. THANKS!!!
xPSYB0RGx said:
Wow, I almost just majorly screwed myself (again). I have the shift and its just been sitting in my drawer, waiting to be activated after carefully reading thru the forums so i do not true brick it again.
Anyway, for some weird reason, pulled it out just to charge the battery, and it requested to do an update (since it was connected via wifi), it tried and got stuck (praise the Lord) and Im just now reading this realizing I almost just GOOFED UP BIG TIME. So, wanted to take the time to thank the OP for this post which made me aware of the fact that I would be SOL if I had've upgrade and to prevent me from upgrading. THANKS!!!
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sooo.... hit the thanks button then
They've recently rooted the Sensation and EVO 3D...hopefully it will trickle down to us Shift owners....
Stuke00 said:
sooo.... hit the thanks button then
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I thanked the OP, and I thanked u for reminding me to be "thankful"!!
I rooted the tablet earlier, and lost root with one of the updates (despite using voodoo). So when trying to install this ICS update, it gets about 25% and says my keyboard layout file has been changed (I modified it). So, I can't change it back and I can't update. Any suggestions?
dude2k5 said:
I rooted the tablet earlier, and lost root with one of the updates (despite using voodoo). So when trying to install this ICS update, it gets about 25% and says my keyboard layout file has been changed (I modified it). So, I can't change it back and I can't update. Any suggestions?
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If your not on ics yet try a root method to regain root and put back ur keyboard layout
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ker2gsr said:
If your not on ics yet try a root method to regain root and put back ur keyboard layout
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I did try the root again, it did not work sadly. Which one are you taking about? Is there one that works with the latest updates (before ICS)
I found manual update I think, same god damn error. This is impossible to fix without root and root was lost with the last update. I really hate Lenovo now. Good hardware, but god damn, why do you fight the dev community.
Sorry to state the obvious but yes, you're screwed until you can root the tab to restore the layout.
On a more helpful note have you tried the new YAREFTPT root method? And secondly, isn't it possible to comment out lines of the update you don't want to be checked?
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Sorry to state the obvious but yes, you're screwed until you can root the tab to restore the layout.
On a more helpful note have you tried the new YAREFTPT root method? And secondly, isn't it possible to comment out lines of the update you don't want to be checked?
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he might be able to flash if he has cwr still installed
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Damnit that sucked. Had to do it manually. At least I got root again.
http://www.gadgetmech.com/howtos/how-to-root-thinkpad-tablet-step-by-step/
dude2k5 said:
Damnit that sucked. Had to do it manually. At least I got root again.
http://www.gadgetmech.com/howtos/how-to-root-thinkpad-tablet-step-by-step/
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now u should be able get stock keyboard layout
rocking rooted ics ThinkPadTablet..... *****es
hello!
i just got my N4 a few days ago...
didnt even change a ringtone yet... just downloaded some apps, and costumized the phone a-bit.
i do want to root, because some advanced actions such as recording calls (legal in my country) require root.
i was about to root using the Nexus 4 ToolKit posted here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995688
but when i run it it always says its tookit ver v1.3.0, and a 1.6.0 is avilable, i update but when i re-run it, it says its 1.3 again...
and even if i go past this step and get to the "What build do you have?
the only answer i can pic is 4.2 (JOP24C)
and i own JOP24D (2.4.1) - will this be an issue?
and also - if i root my phone, and lets say androud 4.2.2 comes out a day later, does the phone still update? or do i stop getting updates as soon as im rooted?
TY!
Caniv said:
hello!
i just got my N4 a few days ago...
didnt even change a ringtone yet... just downloaded some apps, and costumized the phone a-bit.
i do want to root, because some advanced actions such as recording calls (legal in my country) require root.
i was about to root using the Nexus 4 ToolKit posted here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995688
but when i run it it always says its tookit ver v1.3.0, and a 1.6.0 is avilable, i update but when i re-run it, it says its 1.3 again...
and even if i go past this step and get to the "What build do you have?
the only answer i can pic is 4.2 (JOP24C)
and i own JOP24D (2.4.1) - will this be an issue?
and also - if i root my phone, and lets say androud 4.2.2 comes out a day later, does the phone still update? or do i stop getting updates as soon as im rooted?
TY!
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If you get the donate version it will update it so that you can do the 4.2.1 build. I think it was like $5. Well worth supporting the dev
ctowne said:
If you get the donate version it will update it so that you can do the 4.2.1 build. I think it was like $5. Well worth supporting the dev
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alright cool i don't mind paying 5USD...
but what about the most important things?
does rooting 100% erase evetyhing?
Do i keep getting updates to my phone? or when a new version comes out i have to re-root or something?
It will erase EVERYTHING and you would have to go back to stock to get the OTA or wait for a build to be flashable
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If the ROM got OTA (over the air) you can update i guess, not really populair with OTA, but you can download 4.2.2 stock ROM or custom ROM when it comes out.
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Why don't you unlock and root using fastboot. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
Check my signature for my reasons why.
You might even learn something!
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El Daddy said:
Why don't you unlock and root using fastboot. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
Check my signature for my reasons why.
You might even learn something!
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might? i bet ill learn ALOT!
i just have one more question - that i didnt understand.
as of now, unrooted, if 4.3(lets say) comes out tommorow, my device updates, bam.. im 4.3
if i root now, at 4.2.1, the above will not happen? meaning in order to update to 4.3 i will have to lose all my data again?
ty!
Caniv said:
might? i bet ill learn ALOT!
i just have one more question - that i didnt understand.
as of now, unrooted, if 4.3(lets say) comes out tommorow, my device updates, bam.. im 4.3
if i root now, at 4.2.1, the above will not happen? meaning in order to update to 4.3 i will have to lose all my data again?
ty!
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If you are only rooted and having modified any system files you can OTA successfully.
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El Daddy said:
If you are only rooted and having modified any system files you can OTA successfully.
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ashamed to say i didnt really get it.. lol.
you said OTA is "Over the Air", right?
so if i rooted at 4.2.1 (just rooted, no rom or anything), and 4.3 came out do i
1. Have to delete everything AGAIN and re-root on 4.3 to get the update
2. have to find the 4.3 file online and install it somehow
3. do nothing, the phone automatically gets updated
ty =)
Caniv said:
ashamed to say i didnt really get it.. lol.
you said OTA is "Over the Air", right?
so if i rooted at 4.2.1 (just rooted, no rom or anything), and 4.3 came out do i
1. Have to delete everything AGAIN and re-root on 4.3 to get the update
2. have to find the 4.3 file online and install it somehow
3. do nothing, the phone automatically gets updated
ty =)
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Getting root on your device does not delete anything. What deletes everything is unlocking the bootloader (which, at the present time, is required to obtain root). You only have to unlock the bootloader once. Once it is unlocked, getting root is trivial.
Every time you receive an over-the-air update, it will remove your root access, BUT, as I mentioned earlier, getting it back is trivial when your bootloader is unlocked.
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Getting root on your device does not delete anything. What deletes everything is unlocking the bootloader (which, at the present time, is required to obtain root). You only have to unlock the bootloader once. Once it is unlocked, getting root is trivial.
Every time you receive an over-the-air update, it will remove your root access, BUT, as I mentioned earlier, getting it back is trivial when your bootloader is unlocked.
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i should pay you for toleraring my silly questions... many thanks
since i think i saw u said u do not recommend tool kits to root..
can u direct me to a step by step instruction thread to root, in a way you support? i totally trust your opinion
Caniv said:
i should pay you for toleraring my silly questions... many thanks
since i think i saw u said u do not recommend tool kits to root..
can u direct me to a step by step instruction thread to root, in a way you support? i totally trust your opinion
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Have you read the stickies in the General and Q&A sections? There is a couple of stickies by me in the General section (the "Basics" and "Root" links in my signature), and there is also a sticky by Jubakuba in the Q&A section.
efrant said:
Have you read the stickies in the General and Q&A sections? There is a couple of stickies by me in the General section (the "Basics" and "Root" links in my signature), and there is also a sticky by Jubakuba in the Q&A section.
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I did not!
I will do so as soon as I'm done with work.
Will prolly open a thread titled "rooted 4.2, how do i update to 4.2.1" unless its in the stickies..
Caniv said:
I did not!
I will do so as soon as I'm done with work.
Will prolly open a thread titled "rooted 4.2, how do i update to 4.2.1" unless its in the stickies..
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The easiest way is to wait for the OTA notification to appear on your device. Then just accept it, and then root again.
I've written up something for the Galaxy Nexus (sticky in the GNex General section), but nothing yet for the N4. The basic premise (and most of the commands) are the same. You can browse through it for some background info.