Running Apps - Galaxy S I9000 General

This is just a general question but can anyone tell me why android runs so many apps in the background. It takes up a lot of memory and slows the phone down considerably.
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It's not unusual to see all those apps marked as Running. This doesn't mean they are actually running, Android just keeps them "pre-loaded" in a dormant state until they are needed again. If you don't use them for a long period of time the OS will eventually kill them. So, no worries http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

This is the way Android memory works, in order that recently used apps etc load quicker, so don't concern yourself too much, but try and keep widgets to a minimum
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That's normal.
As said, this is normal. You can use Apps like Task-killer to stop the unwanted ones from starting up. I don't use Task-Killer because I think that's just another app added to the system. I have a shortcut of running apps (settings>apps) in my home screen and periodically stopping unwanted apps.
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And if you're really annoyed by a useless app restarting frequently, you can either uninstall it if possible or freeze it with Titanium Backup.

Thanks,
Normally the phone runs great but every now and then it gets really slow.
Just going to have to live with it until I get enough money for the S3

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Apps keep opening in background

I have a lot of apps opening up in the background on their own and eating up my memory. Things like qik, skype, city id, vz navigator open on their own even though I barely use them, if at all. My free memory keeps dropping down to around 30mb. Is there anything I can do?
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The best remedy I came up with was rooting my phone, and then installing Titanium Backup and Autostarts. Titanium can freeze the apps you never want to use like some of the crapware that comes preinstalled. For the apps that you do use, but don't want automatically opening all the time, you can use Autostarts to choose which conditions must be met for the app to open, or not open in this case. For both of those applications, you need to be rooted, and unfortunately that's the only way I know of to stop some of the apps you mentioned (especially Skype and CityID).
You can root to remove the bloatware, but that's it. Also, memory on android isn't the same as on a PC. With a PC, clear memory means a faster system, but the opposite is true for android. Because of the way it manages applications, you want to keep the memory as full as possible.
mlclm said:
You can root to remove the bloatware, but that's it. Also, memory on android isn't the same as on a PC. With a PC, clear memory means a faster system, but the opposite is true for android. Because of the way it manages applications, you want to keep the memory as full as possible.
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The best remedy I came up with was rooting my phone, and then installing Titanium Backup and Autostarts. Titanium can freeze the apps you never want to use like some of the crapware that comes preinstalled. For the apps that you do use, but don't want automatically opening all the time, you can use Autostarts to choose which conditions must be met for the app to open, or not open in this case. For both of those applications, you need to be rooted, and unfortunately that's the only way I know of to stop some of the apps you mentioned (especially Skype and CityID).
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This is the answer. There is a difference in night and day with my X since installed Autostarts and Fission.
If you install Autostarts and use Advanced Task Killer you will be able to kill the apps and they won't continue to run/open in the background. It's extremely worth it.
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This is the answer. There is a difference in night and day with my X since installed Autostarts and Fission.
If you install Autostarts and use Advanced Task Killer you will be able to kill the apps and they won't continue to run/open in the background. It's extremely worth it.
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Search android task killers on these forums. Then listen to the posts and let android do its thing.
Task killers bog down the system because these apps are shut down while attempting to do something (sync, send data, etc). The app then realizes that it needs to complete the process and restarts. This continues over and over hogging your cpu resources and slowing down the system.
Stop paying attention to the free memory and open apps. This is not an iPhone.
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Search android task killers on these forums. Then listen to the posts and let android do its thing.
Task killers bog down the system because these apps are shut down while attempting to do something (sync, send data, etc). The app then realizes that it needs to complete the process and restarts. This continues over and over hogging your cpu resources and slowing down the system.
Stop paying attention to the free memory and open apps. This is not an iPhone.
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Except you can put exceptions into what apps to kill.
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Except you can put exceptions into what apps to kill.
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Read this
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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AdhvanIt said:
Search android task killers on these forums. Then listen to the posts and let android do its thing.
Task killers bog down the system because these apps are shut down while attempting to do something (sync, send data, etc). The app then realizes that it needs to complete the process and restarts. This continues over and over hogging your cpu resources and slowing down the system.
Stop paying attention to the free memory and open apps. This is not an iPhone.
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You're missing the point. Autostarts doesn't allow the app to start in the first place so it doesn't bog down the system or hog resources.
Correct me if I'm wrong but is it not Gingerbread that has added the addition of a task killer.
It's not about the free memory, my phone runs faster. I can tell a difference.
It's possible we may be talking about different things.
I'm pretty sure closing Angry Birds when it's still open because I Home Screen buttoned out of it won't make a big difference.
If you're referring to closing services while they're running, it's a different story. I skimmed through the article, it looks interesting, but I honestly fail to see how closing an app that's running... even one that might be doing something I don't want it to (like using GPS because it didn't close when I back-arrowed out of it).
When I bought my phone, I installed Weather Bug. Weather Bug kept trying to get my GPS location while I was at work. My phone barely made it through work. Anytime I checked the weather, I had to close the program through a task killer, or I'd have no battery because the phone was trying to use my GPS all day.
How does not closing that save my battery?
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It's possible we may be talking about different things.
I'm pretty sure closing Angry Birds when it's still open because I Home Screen buttoned out of it won't make a big difference.
If you're referring to closing services while they're running, it's a different story. I skimmed through the article, it looks interesting, but I honestly fail to see how closing an app that's running... even one that might be doing something I don't want it to (like using GPS because it didn't close when I back-arrowed out of it).
When I bought my phone, I installed Weather Bug. Weather Bug kept trying to get my GPS location while I was at work. My phone barely made it through work. Anytime I checked the weather, I had to close the program through a task killer, or I'd have no battery because the phone was trying to use my GPS all day.
How does not closing that save my battery?
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That's not a valid comparison. The android system manages apps, but it doesn't monitor everything that they're doing to prevent a runaway (like weatherbug). Actually read the article, then comment on it. And you do know you can turn gps off, right?
I happen to like GPS, and as long as I don't have any runaways, it doesn't drain battery since it's not used.
I'm just saying, for programs like that, Task Killers are great.
I'll read it tomorrow most likely.
I tried Watchdog and a few other task killers before finally shelling out the money for the full version of Titanium. I found that often times, the biggest cpu hog and battery killer was the task killer itself since it has to be constantly running in the background. For apps that you use on a regular basis, the best remedy for saving battery life is to just change the update interval period. By default, a lot of widgets (especially weather) update every 15 minutes, which can be a little tasking on system resources at times. I set mine to 1 hour and that helped tremendously. The main reason I went to the full version of Titanium is because it accomplishes what task killers can't by freezing apps to deny their access to open at all. Instead of removing the bloatware like CityID, VZ Navigator, and others, which will keep your phone from receiving OTA updates, just freeze them and you'll never have to worry about them. Autostarts takes care of the rest for me by allowing full control over the condition changes on the device which trigger certain applications to open. For example, I may use Google goggles occassionally, but I don't want it to automatically open in the background just because I enabled GPS. Before rooting my phone, I would normally average between 14 to 18 hours on moderate usage (with a task killer running I might add). Now, with those two applications managing things more meticulously, and chaning the update interval for all of my widgets, I get around 30 to 36 hours easily.

Why did Samsung put in a task manager and a "kill all tasks" button?

So Samsung for whatever reason, decides it's a good idea to include an easy to access task manager with a giant "kill all tasks" button in TouchWiz. It seems like everyone I know, that has a Galaxy S II, has adopted a certain behavior due this. What they do is, every time they put their phone away, they will automatically go to this task manager and kill all tasks, before locking the phone. When I ask them why the hell they're doing that, the answer is usually something like "wasting battery blah blah blah" or "wasting CPU blah blah blah"... NO!
For starters:
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
http://www.infoworld.com/t/smartphones/myth-android-devices-need-task-killers-609
http://androinica.com/2010/05/googl...-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/
People that are doing this, educate yourself. And Samsung, well done for encouraging this.
Just because a task is in memory, doesn't mean it's doing anything, and certainly doesn't mean it's using up battery. If it's staying in memory, it's because there's no need to release it just yet. If you start it up again, it will already be there, and load up faster. The alternative is, you keep killing it, and every time you run it again, it will have to reinitialize and reload everything. Which option do you think is actually going to cost more battery?
The whole thing with people saying "oh no it's using CPU, i must kill it"... what?! If it's using CPU, it's probably doing something. Why the hell are you killing a process while it's in the middle of doing something? Do you not care about data integrity at all? It could have been in the middle of syncing, or in the middle of a write operation who knows.
If you run other applications and your memory runs low, then Android will close it. And it will close it properly, as opposed to you force killing it, denying it of any chance to clean up.
Obviously there are rare exceptions with dodgy programs. But most of the time, the tasks being killed are system apps, or trustworthy apps, properly written by Google or Samsung.
If you're not a developer, you probably won't understand the whole Android application lifecycle.
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Activity.html
By force closing an application, you're not allowing it to run its onStop() and onDestroy() functions. This is where apps do all the clean up, releasing resources, unregistering things, closing connections etc.
Do you do this on your PC. Open up Windows task manager, and just kill any task that's using CPU. Or hell, just kill all tasks every 2 minutes! Good luck with that.
This has probably been said hundreds of times, but a lot of people i know are getting GSII's and I see them doing this constantly. It's stupid. Do you really think they designed the operating system so that you have to kill everything each time you touch it?
TLDR: Stop "killing all tasks" (unless theres actually something wrong) and well done Samsung for encouraging this. Just stupid.
Damn your right, I never used a task killer on previous android phones, but for some reason I have got into the habit of doing it now. So I'm going to kill that habit. Well noticed
Well according to the user guide (the full one from Samsung's website)... though personally I don't bother killing anything
Use the task manager › ›​
Your device is a multitasking device. It can run more than one application at the same time. However, multitasking may cause hang-ups, freezing, memory problems, or additional power consumption. To avoid these problems, end unnecessary programs using the task manager.​
1 In Idle mode, open the application list and select Task manager → Active applications.
The list of all the applications currently running on your device appears.
2 To close an application, select Exit.​To close all active applications, select Exit all.
i like the placebo effect and stop telling me what i have to do or not to do!
your writing style is to aggressive, stop being aggressive!
For me, it is worth to have the clear memory option because I already faced the glitch or bugs program which cause my phone to run constantly at 1.2ghz and this will cause my phone become extremely hot. I can't see what application is running but for some reason, the cpu gone crazy. It drain battery in no time. With the simple one click button, I can closed the programs without need to restart the phone. Yes, generally I will let the android system to handle the application by itself but I still think it was a good moved by samsung to have task manager if we use it in proper way...
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Well it's not all that bad, with 2 cores one core can easily come into a deadlock and the device will continue to function albeit much slower and consuming a lot of power, when this happens in the taskmanager the processes are listed red
Thanks ever so for much for this post I have just got my first Android phone and thought by doing this it would increase the battery life a tad but did kinda think it was a bit daft having a system that required manually killing tasks. Coming from a Windows 6.1 XDA Zest I am still getting my head round an OS that's doesn't require hours on Internet to work out how to do things.
Sad, but true, I was getting onto Android from Symbian, and first thing after I realised that I do not have option of killing all apps, I have installed the task killer and kept using it for like a week, then I've read one of the articles about it, that its wrong, and that Android is not working as Symbian nor Windows, so I realised that I dont need to do that... unninstalled it and not using it at all since
You don't need Task manager / killer if only all android applications are developed by good programmers that implement Android application lifecycle properly.
The problem is not all applications are developed this way. Some application may buggy / in beta stage that still consuming processing time even they are in background.
Task manager is still useful to close nasty program manually. But I do agree, auto-kill is useless and can cause battery drain and system instability.
Yep .. it's mostly services what eats battery. And there is poor control over that. It would be interesting to see what service was active at what time, or even how much battery did it use. All battery discussions are about guessing what is running in the background and how often and how much. We should not guess such things.
As far as I'm concerned an in built task manager is just as important as an in built modem right now. There are far too many unstable applications out there that hang up and Android can never fully deal with them(despite what research may or may not have been done in the past).
I have a few games installed on my S2(namely Pool Break Pro & TNA iMPACT!) that crash quite often and require the use of the task manager to manually end those programs(they are in the task manager highlighted in red when they have stalled).
However, what I will say is that the button to clear memory in the RAM manager really shouldn't be there at all. The task manager alone is more than enough to manually exit necessary apps that crash and stay open for no reason.
I like to have the ability to close programs easily at hand. It gives me better control over "rogue" apps. I only use it for a few programs though, like the Engadget app. It seems to be poorly coded, often using 40-50% CPU when running in the background.
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I like it because it lets me close frozen apps quicker..
the_Calen said:
i like the placebo effect and stop telling me what i have to do or not to do!
your writing style is to aggressive, stop being aggressive!
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Lol yes. Not to be taken too seriously.
Force closing apps with the task manager when somethings wrong with the phone or closing broken apps makes sense. I'm just talking about people that instinctively press the close all apps button every time they use the phone for a second. It's just silly. Basically doing what those automatic task killing apps do.
I use to kill opera everytime i'm done with browsing because even in idle mode the phone gets very hot when opera runs in the backgtound. But after these explanstions i stop force killing every app
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If a program is badly written and won't stay idle, then kill it.
I am very selective about what I install, and never kill or need to kill anything.
You have 1 GB of ram on this phone. If you want best battery and speed, don't kill anything. loading a running app from ram uses less power than starting from scratch and booting it from nand, then starting it up.
So if apps are well written, don't kill them. If stuff stays around causing drain, kill it individually but find a better app
This thread is spot on... for the most part. Like Pulser said, there are apps when idling/cached, cause detrimental effects like the one I detailed here causing your phone to stay Awake constantly and draining battery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094666
ATK isn't the most elegant method, but it allows you to put everything else on ignore and have it actively kill the apps that love to stay cached and cause issues even after you've exited out of them.
Is there a way to "lock" some apps into a memory so they never quit by the android OS except if I would decide to?
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You have a valid point, but most of the time those apps don't do anything critical that it would hurt to interrupt. I usually prefer to exit them normally, but sometimes I just kill it, like when I forgot the Messages / Internet open. No need to paranoia though, leaving a few open won't kill your battery.
PINki92 said:
Is there a way to "lock" some apps into a memory so they never quit by the android OS except if I would decide to?
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That's exactly what I needed. There are some apps, like SetCPU, TB, Root Explorer, which can be added to SuperUser authorization and it won't get killed by anything unless someone manually kills it. I'd really really like to know how to add an app under SuperUser or anything which will do the job to add the app in to the OS and which can't be killed by any Task Killer or anything.
Besides I also hate those Task Killer apps, they are meaningless unless an user do nothing regularly with his/her phone.
I've no Task Killer installed but once I used the built in Memory Clear feature and next day my schedule app got closed. From then I never touched it. But one thing if RAM usage goes above 400 MB I think sometime its good to clear the memory as it will help to refresh it. But Samsung should had put the Memory Clear feature more precisely.
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Running apps without launch

Hello guys, ive juz got my iconia a few days ago.. its my first time using android. Its relatively new to me compared to apple. Ive notice that a few apps is running without me opening e application. is tis normal? ive tried to force close.. but after awhile it comes back up n running again?
What apps?
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burnout69 said:
Hello guys, ive juz got my iconia a few days ago.. its my first time using android. Its relatively new to me compared to apple. Ive notice that a few apps is running without me opening e application. is tis normal? ive tried to force close.. but after awhile it comes back up n running again?
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Generally speaking, yes, this is normal.
Those apps are put into standby and some apps run automatically like Systemupdater, Acer Sync etc... Other apps, like Photo Browser 3D, nemoPlayer, even Maps etc - will start but not in the sense of 'start' like we would think. They are ready states (as I understand them) and in some cases will stay ready or swap out when resources are getting light and the OS needs more headroom.
"By default, every application runs in its own Linux process. Android starts the process when any of the application's components need to be executed, then shuts down the process when it's no longer needed or when the system must recover memory for other applications."
So even if you don't launch and application manually, it could easy start up on it own if a component of it was executed (on some level).
It is not recommended to force-close applications unless the application is causing problems - in which case, uninstalling it is the better option.
gammaRascal said:
Generally speaking, yes, this is normal.
Those apps are put into standby and some apps run automatically like Systemupdater, Acer Sync etc... Other apps, like Photo Browser 3D, nemoPlayer, even Maps etc - will start but not in the sense of 'start' like we would think. They are ready states (as I understand them) and in some cases will stay ready or swap out when resources are getting light and the OS needs more headroom.
"By default, every application runs in its own Linux process. Android starts the process when any of the application's components need to be executed, then shuts down the process when it's no longer needed or when the system must recover memory for other applications."
So even if you don't launch and application manually, it could easy start up on it own if a component of it was executed (on some level).
It is not recommended to force-close applications unless the application is causing problems - in which case, uninstalling it is the better option.
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yes those r the apps that has been running.. tried closing them by using android task manager.. for a moment it will juz start again..by uninstalling them, wats the risks of running my other apps? will it caused any problems?
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yes those r the apps that has been running.. tried closing them by using android task manager.. for a moment it will juz start again..by uninstalling them, wats the risks of running my other apps? will it caused any problems?
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I (though others would say the opposite) do not recommend uninstalling anything that came preloaded with the tablet. Both for stability reasons and future updates - if however you're really REALLY obsessing over getting back a dozen megabytes of allocated memory from those minor apps then you're going to have to go the whole long road down root avenue and backing up those applications etc ad nauseam. You can get all the info you need throughout the forum.
My advice is, don't worry about those native apps running in the background - if the OS needs more resources it will manage them on it's own. It's not like Windows where you can kill running programs or processes willy-nilly from the task manager when you want to free up memory - in Android, the OS does this as it sees fit, on its own. If it wants more juice, it will make more juice available to itself.
I had the same issues.. a quick fix i ran was to root my tablet and install "bloat freezer" from the market.
it simply stops the processes from running, so your not un-installing them just stopping them from running, Im now seeing my free ram running at appx 65% free at any time which is much better than before.
If i do want to use skype or whatever i simply unfreeze them and freeze them again when finished..
hope this helps..
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just to let you know i have frozen all of the acer bundled apps
Freezing apps is an option. I don't do that so I have no experienced opinion as far as that goes.
i agree with gamma
These apps are not really running. They are connected to context menues.like when younare in camera app and you click the share image menus.you will see the apps that can share the image such at Facebook Picasso dropbox and so on.these are the apps setting in static mode.I know in nor totally correct but its the closes I can do to describe.if your statement needs the memory or CPU cycles these apps might be using it will shut them down..I have tested this theory by launching many apps and logging processes.
task killers running in the background work against the built in memory and resources management's.
Good luck.if im wrong anyone please correct the post.just do so nicely
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yyiinn said:
I had the same issues.. a quick fix i ran was to root my tablet and install "bloat freezer" from the market.
it simply stops the processes from running, so your not un-installing them just stopping them from running, Im now seeing my free ram running at appx 65% free at any time which is much better than before.
If i do want to use skype or whatever i simply unfreeze them and freeze them again when finished..
hope this helps..
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just to let you know i have frozen all of the acer bundled apps
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That does freeze those apps.but if the system needed that ram it would do the same.it gives foreground ape priority.if that or those apps need the resources.the system will kill the lowest priority apps.
Of course thee are some rogue apps that do not play fair.if you find them then uninstall.I use advanced task killer.but never let it run in background.just can launch it lookat what's running. Then close it it will not restart itself
I understand the memory management. But i would rather applications especially skype to run when i want and not as the system see's fit. Social jogger was another culprit they were my biggest bug bears..
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I understand the memory management. But i would rather applications especially skype to run when i want and not as the system see's fit. Social jogger was another culprit they were my biggest bug bears..
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You can freeze those apps with titanium backup.just remember to unfreeze before you do OTA. update
yyiinn said:
I understand the memory management. But i would rather applications especially skype to run when i want and not as the system see's fit. Social jogger was another culprit they were my biggest bug bears..
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Those apps are not running. The may be started at boot but only partially, then they are "paused" and cached for quicker loading if needed.
Android does an awesome job at memory management and will kill apps when it needs more ram.
I dont like it either since i dont use social jogger, nemo player, acer sync and many more so you have two options
If you are rooted flash a rom without all that crap in it.
Or
Use a file manager with root access and file manipulation like 'rootexplorer' and rename those files so they wont run.
I rename them to socialjogger.apk.bak
Just adding the .bak to the filename is enough.
But dont piss around you can smoke the tablet and have to do a factory reset via recovery if you mess with the wrong file.
Just post a list of thing you wish to remove and we will be happy to let you know whats ok or not.
Oh and btw... the ipad runs a crap ton of stuff in the bckground too, apple jst desnt show you like android does.
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[Q] How long do u need 2 change ur rom?

Hi all,
i love this forum so much. thx for that!
When i change my rom i allways do:
download the rom
titanium backup
charging phone to 100%
cwm backup
data wipe
cache wipe
install the rom
dalvik wipe
adding my wifi
adding my google-acc
downloading about 20 apps
restore the userdata with titanium backup
adjust homescreens
changing a lot of settings (for example im very tired for setting allways my auto-brightness-levels. Can i export and import?)
i need about 7h to have everything that way i like it. how long do you need? and have you some tricks to fasten it up?
thx
greets
haxn
PS: im using "ILWT CM7 333" rom. it is awesome!
Most times, backup rom (2-10mins), full wipe, flash, use... Add Titanium sometimes, but I prefer to redownload everything. So something like 15 mins. Also because I change rom frequently, when I decide to keep a rom, I may add some more wipes and sometimes kernels and optimizations (swap, ViperMod, supercharger (just found) or similar...), but most of the times they work right without anything
sorry didn't see you meant also settings and downloading apps, 1 hour so.
7 hours? Jesus!
I can do it all in an hour or 2. To be fair, I'd say 2 hours, as its easy to put the phone down and doing something else while waiting for a task to get done (like CWM backup or Titanium), then forgetting about it for a while.
Of course, how low your battery is will affect the charging step, but at most that's an additional hour.
I can't imagine it taking more than a couple hours, much less the other choices on your poll.
7 hours, the hell man. That's quite a lot. I can do it in an hour clean. But I suppose it all depends on how you use your phone...
I just wipe, flash and then install a couple of apps. I use yahoo mail and it handles all my other mail accounts as well, so that's a quick and dirty cheat as all you need to do is install the app and sign in and boom all your mail is back and all your mail accounts are configured
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It only takes about an hour. I do a nandroid backup, titanium, call log, and sms. That's like ten or fifteen minutes. Then I flash the new rom. Install gapps connect to wifi and download titanium again. That only takes ten minutes. The only thing that takes long is restoring apps. I use go launcher on most roms so I just keep the same home screens and settings. I don't see what could take seven hours...
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do you restore your apps with titanium? are not there issues when updates come?
maybe 7h is too much, mostly im doing this while watching tv, etc. maybe im not that focused. =)
but i really need some hour to have all the way i like it. dont you have your own preferences on auto-bightness? this take a while. i hope they have a nicer option to adjust it in cm9.
and the poll... its just for fun. =)
Why do you all charge to 100%? I just flash unless I'm below 25% after I flash a new rom I drain it to 1% and wipe battery stats, my battery life has improved dramatically since I started doing that. Oh, and I would say two hours max.
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after I flash a new rom I drain it to 1% and wipe battery stats, my battery life has improved dramatically since I started doing that.
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No it hasn't.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-engineer-debunks-myth-wiping-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
You can't "improve battery life" by playing tricks with battery stats. Its like saying that messing with the fuel gauge in your car will change how much gas is left in the tank. Battery gauge calibrations and whatnot just change what the meter is saying versus voltage. It doesn't change how long your battery lasts.
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No it hasn't.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
You can't "improve battery life" by playing tricks with battery stats. Its like saying that messing with the fuel gauge in your car will change how much gas is left in the tank. Battery gauge calibrations and whatnot just change what the meter is saying versus voltage. It doesn't change how long your battery lasts.
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Okay, well I'm not going to argue that since its official, but as I honestly find it makes a difference i will continue to do it
deliriousDroid said:
Why do you all charge to 100%? I just flash unless I'm below 25%
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Its true that most times, you just need enough juice to get the flash done. And I've certainly done it with much less charge than 100%.
In some circumstances of modding the phone its possible to get stuck in a state where the phone will not charge. Messing with hboot is one case where this may happen, but there may be others. In this case, you can recover, provided you have enough battery to do so. If your battery runs too low before you can recover, you are in deep trouble.
Not sure if this type of scenario is possible with a routine ROM flash. But waiting an extra 15 minutes or half hour to make sure you have a decent charge (while not necessarily 100%) doesn't hurt anything, and might prevent you from being stuck in a bad situation.
redpoint73 said:
Its true that most times, you just need enough juice to get the flash done. And I've certainly done it with much less charge than 100%.
In some circumstances of modding the phone its possible to get stuck in a state where the phone will not charge. Messing with hboot is one case where this may happen, but there may be others. In this case, you can recover, provided you have enough battery to do so. If your battery runs too low before you can recover, you are in deep trouble.
Not sure if this type of scenario is possible with a routine ROM flash. But waiting an extra 15 minutes or half hour to make sure you have a decent charge (while not necessarily 100%) doesn't hurt anything, and might prevent you from being stuck in a bad situation.
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Good point, but I like to live life on the edge
Can we add a choice on the poll for less than 2 hours? It seems from the majority of the typed responses for far, this seems to be the most common time frame.
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haxn2 said:
do you restore your apps with titanium? are not there issues when updates come?
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Nope. Apps restored from Titanium are still linked to the Market. They get updated just as normal.
After a ROM flash I usually let the apps sync through Google, then restore the app data only, for apps that need it. But sometimes when apps are missing after the auto-sync, I just restore from Titanium.
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but i really need some hour to have all the way i like it. dont you have your own preferences on auto-bightness? this take a while. i hope they have a nicer option to adjust it in cm9.
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And changing that setting takes what, about 10 seconds?
I think you're talking about changing lots of little settings (but you keep mentioning brightness only). But in that case, we're still talking about changing a bunch of settings that take 10 seconds each (or less). Still don't see how that can add up to more than an hour or 2.
another thing to note on battery draining. With the current generation of batteries, it's actually not a good thing to drain it to 1%. It does more damage than anything else. Older gen batteries require that you drain it then charge it up to full again for a few cycles, but that's because of the memory effect.
By draining your battery to 1% you're starving the battery and doing nothing but damaging the battery's capacity. our batteries usually prefer a 20-45% level over anything else.
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Can we add a choice on the poll for less than 2 hours? It seems from the majority of the typed responses for far, this seems to be the most common time frame.
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Nope. Apps restored from Titanium are still linked to the Market. They get updated just as normal.
After a ROM flash I usually let the apps sync through Google, then restore the app data only, for apps that need it. But sometimes when apps are missing after the auto-sync, I just restore from Titanium.
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And changing that setting takes what, about 10 seconds?
I think you're talking about changing lots of little settings (but you keep mentioning brightness only). But in that case, we're still talking about changing a bunch of settings that take 10 seconds each (or less). Still don't see how that can add up to more than an hour or 2.
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So when google syncs your apps do you still have to go in and manually download them from the my apps page in the market? I've always used titanium to restore and even when I do it in a batch operation I have to hit install and then done for each app. Is there a way to automate this?
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DAMN! i wanted to post this reply, but i closed the tab. i hate chrome! DAMN!
now the short version:
redpoint73 said:
Can we add a choice on the poll for less than 2 hours?
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i wanted to change it too. bu i cant change it. only mods. i dont want to annoy them with that.
there are a lot of settings u can play with. profiles. homescreens. lockscreen. sounds. auto-brigthness xD (i use 10 level. how u can adjust them in just 10s?). haptic feedback.
i think i want too much a custom custom rom. its wierd.
and now a big noob question:
how can you sync your apps with google? i cant find this.
best wishes
haxn
ps: sorry for the short replay. the first time i wrote nicer and longer..
mbrentrowe said:
So when google syncs your apps do you still have to go in and manually download them from the my apps page in the market?
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Nope. They should just start synching automagically once you go through the setup wizard (first time you boot the phone after the flash) and enter your Google login. Of course, only for Market apps, not apps obtained from other sources.
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haxn2 said:
there are a lot of settings u can play with. profiles. homescreens. lockscreen. sounds. auto-brigthness xD (i use 10 level. how u can adjust them in just 10s?). haptic feedback.
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I wasn't clear on what you were talking about with auto brightness before. I thought you meant just changing the % brightness in settings. Is the auto brightness you mention an app, or a CM7 hack (I haven't messed with CM in a long time). If its an app (and there are some auto brightness apps), you can try to restore app data using Titanium instead of re-entering manually.
Which launcher are you using? If its ADW, you have the option in app to backup the home screen configuration. When you restore, it doesn't come back perfect (some widgets always get messed up for me). But it gets you 80% there and saves a bunch of time. I assume Launcher Pro and other 3rd party launchers has similar functionality. Not sure if you can do similar on the stock launcher (maybe using Titanium?)
auto brightness:
yes it is cm7-stuff. i want my screen a bit darker to improve my batterylife.
launcher:
i use go launcher. there is a save and restore function. but some things go wrong.
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and now a big noob question:
how/where can you sync your apps with google?
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and again:
and now a big noob question:
how/where can you sync your apps with google?
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If you downloaded apps from the Google Android Market (the "regular" market), then they should just start automatically start synching when you startup the phone after a flash (or buy a new Android phone). You shouldn't have to "do" anything extra. If you got your apps for another market or installed the APKs manually, it won't do this.
IIRC the free version of TB requires you to hit install for each app while the paid version does it in one batch.
mbrentrowe said:
So when google syncs your apps do you still have to go in and manually download them from the my apps page in the market? I've always used titanium to restore and even when I do it in a batch operation I have to hit install and then done for each app. Is there a way to automate this?
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If you downloaded apps from the Google Android Market (the "regular" market), then they should just start automatically start synching when you startup the phone after a flash (or buy a new Android phone). You shouldn't have to "do" anything extra. If you got your apps for another market or installed the APKs manually, it won't do this.
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Jinxed myself. The above has always worked for me, over various different ROMs (CM7, VIrtuous "regular", Affinity, Unity, RCMix, MIUI). I just flashed InsertCoin last night, and none of my apps were automatically synched when I started the phone up. In Market, only my paid apps showed up, and I had to install them manually one by one.
Searching around a bit on here, it seems the auto-sync function is a bit hit-or-miss. One person claims it mostly only works on AOSP ROMs, but this is clearly not the case in my experience.

[Q] Help my W8/x8...!!

I'm using GingerDx.v022 and all going smooth n nice...
I've install many other .akp app from xda .. but i want the whole list of .apk file for my cell...!!
Also can any 1 say me which app can help my x8 for long battery life...
i'm using Advance task killer also reboot my cell twice a day.. n also have freeze unwanted apps ...n normally my battery supports my cell till 1day....but still want to extent my battery life.. so if there is any possible way then share it here...
N others who read this thread n thinks that there x8/w8 looks smart n sexy then share your Screenshots here ....
About the apk list
luckily, you're able to manage an app list to install and/or uninstall with sd card storage optimizer. this app is cool, it lets you maintain a backup of all your aps and choose install or uninstall them. It's perfect when you're changing of rom. Its disadvantage is that you have to go one by one. This is annoying but be pacient. download it from android market
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to save battery just avoid too many widgets, set automatic or low contrast, turn off wifi and bt when unecessary, and obviously kill the running apps (I usually set the back button to do this, more practical). As simple as that, better than and sofisticated app.

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