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am i the only one who can see that pureview sucks compared to GS3 and iphone 4s camera shots, unlike what the auther says???? i mean i tried multiple times looking at crops and full pictures and find pureview tobe blurry and dull compared to GS3 and iphone 4S...
what ya think !
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[URL http://www.gsmarena.com/pureview_blind_test-review-773.php] Blind test picture quality[/URL]
am i the only one who can see that pureview sucks compared to GS3 and iphone 4s camera shots, unlike what the auther says???? i mean i tried multiple times looking at crops and full pictures and find pureview tobe blurry and dull compared to GS3 and iphone 4S...
what ya think !
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I think you're completely and utterly wrong. The Pureview is VASTLY better than any of the other phones for imaging.
Did you even watched it?
Because I certainly thought what you said until I saw the crops....
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Did you even watched it?
Because I certainly thought what you said until I saw the crops....
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Yes, I did look at it. I have absolutely no idea how anyone could think the S2/4S is even remotely in the same league as the Pureview there. I wonder if the more appealing enhanced contrast of the S2/4S are making you think those are better? Look at resolved detail and you can plainly see the superiority of the Pureview - colours you can change if you want to, there is no regaining lost detail.
Wow something wrong with my eyes than lol
Because s3 looked Sharper and well focused than Nokia.
I also think that the pureview is far better then Galaxy S3 or the iPhone. But to be honest, I think the Olympus E-PL2 is the winner. Maybe it's the too warm white balance of the testshots of the E-PL2 that made it second place, but that's something that could be easily corrected afterwards - missing detail not.
I had thought E and F were the best ones after inspecting all photos...
i thought C was definitely the worst though, which sucks cause i just had the Evo LTE and thought the camera was good, haha...
but id say if i had to rate them in order:
F, E, B/D tie, A then C
A (Nokia N8) seems to offer the best compromise between sharpness and dynamic range
HTC One X's camera has an amazingly high dynamic range and nice color rendition, too, but its sharpness sucks...
S3
PureView: amazing sharpness, but worse dynamic range
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The One X picture is at least one stop underexposed
it was F,B,E for me.
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it was F,B,E for me.
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It was F,E,B for me, though I think the downscaling (with a most certainly good downscaling algorithm) helped them a bit...
IMO, I think from crops
As for Sharpness is PureView > S3 > 4S > One X
One X pictures looks very grainy..
Colour-wise, I think S3 is abit saturated whereas PureView is more natural.
Pureview does look great and Nokia have done something impressive with it. Whether it actually sells or not will be a different story.
Pure view really killed the field, here...
It's even better than the PEN, IMNSHO. And to me, S3 is second among smartphones, just hairs in front of iPhone 4S... Shockingly the OneX is way way behind. From the review I had read before its camera was one of the points that made me hesitate between HOX and SGSIII... Glad I picked the SGSIII!
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Wow, I didn't expect this. Phone arena done a test where users have to vote for which they think are the best photos taken with three smart phones and a digital camera. They were not told which photo is taken by which device. The results were really suprising as I thought my Samsung had the best camera among Android smart phones!
What do you guys think?
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Smartphone-camera-comparison-you-choose-the-winner-Results_id20750
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Seriously??? I wasnt expecting them results either! Perhaps its just the screen on the S2 which makes the images look better than they actually are. Damn shame that!!!
Too bad there wasn't a Arc in the Game. It takes really great pictures, but the Galaxy doesnt do a bad job either. But if you take a picture with the iphone it uses HDR This is why the iphone images has more details on it.
I have no complaints about taking pictures with the phone, it's a phone not a camera. It is getting better (look 5 years back).
another great site for comparing pictures is gsmarena look at the following link http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=3&idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=3275&idPhone3=3619
Ex iphone4 user here, and these results just make me lol.....
Set the S2 to iso100 in daylight and it DESTROYS the iphone 4 camera.
Indoors and low light is probably not its strong point though, same as most phone sensors.
I haven't seen any pictures taken by the sensation but the sensation pics look like how my sgs2 takes pics (ie colors a little oversaturated)
I didn't spend too long looking but in the outdoor tests doesn't the S2 photos look most like the canon photos? The other two camera phones distort the image more compared to the samsung.
The flaw in this study has been pointed out in the comments on the website. They just asked for the best one and so as this was obviously the canon the results for the camera phones don't mean too much. They need to do another test just between camera phones.
I expected this anyway. The saturation, white balance, etc are not that satisfactory. My previous phone Nokia N80 produced much better images.
Well, for me this is the one of the weaknesses on SGS2. I hope Samsung will improve it on the next Samsung Galaxy S series. Other than that, this phone is really spectacular.
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I didn't spend too long looking but in the outdoor tests doesn't the S2 photos look most like the canon photos?
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Exactly ... in the outdoor tests the S2 even outperformed the Canon, because it shows more shadow detail.
This review only shows one thing ... not the best cam, but that the voters have been idiots, who don't know nothing about photography
What I find strange is, that my S2 shows a much better indoor white balance, as shown in these test shots. It seems Samsung fixed it in the latest updates?
looking at the pics, the canon is the best overall, and the SII comes very, very close (sometimes better outdoor, and slightly worse indoors).
the other 2 phones are far from their level of detail, balance and overall quality.
that's what I expected, too, and i checked the device names only after looking. the iphone level of detail is very disappointing.
one difference however is that the htc and the iphone both do heavy color correction (thats also a reason why they lose a lot of detail) while the SII and the canon do much lighter correction.
lastly if they're using HDR on the iphone and take front light pics it would be logical to use the free HDR apps on android and do offline HDR rendering on the canon, but that's not the case here
from that pic its easy to determine which phone is the iphone4 and thats probably why it has most of the vote there, since every iphone owner knew which one was the iphone ;-)
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looking at the pics, the canon is the best overall, and the SII comes very, very close (sometimes better outdoor, and slightly worse indoors).
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But the Sensation is the only one where you can see the guys pores in the outside pictures, all the other ones his skin just looks even
I'm starting to doubt the credibility of the comparison. Allaboutsymbian done a comparison between the Arc and the Galaxy S2 and the S2 came out on top.
wwwdallaboutsymbian.com/features/item/13021_5_Top_Smartphone_Cameras_pitch.php
Now I look at the photos again, I think the results are chosen from what initially appears the best image (from untrained eyes) and what appears the best to a technical photographer. The Galaxy S2 are noisy, outdoors but do contain more detail. Whereas other phones have more noise reduction at the expense of details but at first look most people would choose the less noisy photo.
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I'm starting to doubt the credibility of the comparison. Allaboutsymbian done a comparison between the Arc and the Galaxy S2 and the S2 came out on top.
wwwdallaboutsymbian.com/features/item/13021_5_Top_Smartphone_Cameras_pitch.php
Now I look at the photos again, I think the results are chosen from what initially appears the best image (from untrained eyes) and what appears the best to a technical photographer. The Galaxy S2 are noisy, outdoors but do contain more detail. Whereas other phones have more noise reduction at the expense of details but at first look most people would choose the less noisy photo.
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I can see a lot more detail in the sensations pic, like I said I can see the guys pores in the pics taken with the sensation but the other sensation pics are better too
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I can see a lot more detail in the sensations pic, like I said I can see the guys pores in the pics taken with the sensation but the other sensation pics are better too
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But at the expense of the detail on the tree at the right of him.
HTC Sensation captures what seems to be a smudge of green, while in the GS2, you can make out the leaves. And his skin looks unnaturally red.
So the SGS2 decided to focus on the tree instead of the subject and instead of the subject looking slightly more tanned he looks like a shining ghost
The fun thing with this test:
If a voter would be good in recognizing quality pictures, they would most likely choose the real (Canon) camera 1st. The mobile camera that is the best, right after the Canon, would then have reasonably less chances of being picked as 'best', since the voters nót picking the Canon as best have proven to be bad quality-recognizers.
Thus the best camera-phone will have the highest chance of ending with the least of all votes
(as pointed out by several commenters already)
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Interesting article....
I have both devices, I'll take a pic with each and post to see which one you all think is better. I would post an iPhone as well but my wife is out and about.
Here's unbiased review, including the camera.
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/samsung-galaxy-s2-en.shtml
Hi everyone. I had the one X but returned it in anticipation for the galaxy s3. I was wondering if anyone that had both phones can comment on the camera quality of both. I've read reviews and it seems like the one X has a better camera with a better aperture of f/2.0, so it has better low light photos.
I wanted to test it out in stores but they are not there yet, so i was wondering if anyone can give impressions of the quality of the s3 camera (and can compare it to the one x shots). I'm still deciding between the 2 phones...
thanks!
I too had the one X but returned and pre-ordered the S3 and got it yesterday.
The two things that I liked better on One X are the camera and the display. IMO camera is noticeably better on One X, especially in low light. Also the camera app on One X is a little bit faster which might be due to the imagesense chip that One X has.
But overall Im happier with S3. Couldnt bare with One X's retarded multi tasking.
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here are 5 comparison shots of the iPhone 4 vs the Galaxy S3. To my eye the samsung lets in more light and it actually sometimes makes the photos contrast too white. But the color reproduction on the samsung is closer to what I see with my eye
Now keep in mind, Samsung/android gives you much greater control over ISO/exposure/etc. These pictures are taken on the default "auto" settings. I think people could make them look a lot better by actually adjusting the iso/exposure/contrast. I'll probably come back on later and compare the iPhone 4, iPhone 4s and the Samsung with adjusted settings later.
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here are 5 comparison shots of the iPhone 4 vs the Galaxy S3. To my eye the samsung lets in more light and it actually sometimes makes the photos contrast too white. But the color reproduction on the samsung is closer to what I see with my eye
Now keep in mind, Samsung/android gives you much greater control over ISO/exposure/etc. These pictures are taken on the default "auto" settings. I think people could make them look a lot better by actually adjusting the iso/exposure/contrast. I'll probably come back on later and compare the iPhone 4, iPhone 4s and the Samsung with adjusted settings later.
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It almost looks like the all the iPhone photos were artificially saturated, because it's supposedly better to err on the side of too saturated than "washed out reality", for the average joe.
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here are 5 comparison shots of the iPhone 4 vs the Galaxy S3. To my eye the samsung lets in more light and it actually sometimes makes the photos contrast too white. But the color reproduction on the samsung is closer to what I see with my eye
Now keep in mind, Samsung/android gives you much greater control over ISO/exposure/etc. These pictures are taken on the default "auto" settings. I think people could make them look a lot better by actually adjusting the iso/exposure/contrast. I'll probably come back on later and compare the iPhone 4, iPhone 4s and the Samsung with adjusted settings later.
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I'm really interested in your results after the settings. Currently the only thing holding me back from jumping on the galaxy s3 is the camera. But if adjusting the settings can make the camera photos appear better, then i think i'm sold. Please do post them when you do get a chance!
thanks!
Those shots are very helpful... iPhone pics definitely look better on first glance, but the colors are artificial/over-saturated and I think the S3 provides more detail in the shadow. I had a One X, and thought that camera was terrible; everything was overexposed and washed out and if I dropped exposure by one tick it went to far. Definitely more optimistic about trying the camera on my S3 when it comes tomorrow.
Here are some updated shots. I played with the S3 and got the settings I liked. One thing I didn't point out in the first set of pictures is if you zoom in on the pictures you'll notice more detail in the S3 shots, mainly because of the higher pixel count.
I think personally, the s3 camera is quite better. It has more tweaking you can do to get the shots you want. I really love the "Smile Shot" that takes a photo when it detects a smile or the fact you can say "Cheese" and it have take photos.
those are really nice pics
S3 is same sensor as S2 from what I have read. One X is brand new backlit sensor, which is why it does so well in low light conditions. One X camera is best out there right now. And yes the f2.0 wider angle lens is pretty sweet also.
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Kind of weird, samsung has a photo relationship with pentax for their SLR's and these comparison pics look a lot like those between pentax and canikon SLR's. On auto settings the pentax/samsung favor darker and less saturated compared to brighter/punchier exposures on auto settings with canon or nikon. All a matter of preference just weird to see the same sort of thing happening here.
Will be fun to play with when I finally upgrade from this cracked captivate
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S3 is same sensor as S2 from what I have read. One X is brand new backlit sensor, which is why it does so well in low light conditions. One X camera is best out there right now. And yes the f2.0 wider angle lens is pretty sweet also.
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The sensor is an upgraded iphone 4s sensor
Are you sure about the camera sensor. I read a review last week that it was same sensor design as s2 but upgraded software. Not saying you aren't correct, just want to figure out which one it has.
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Are you sure about the camera sensor. I read a review last week that it was same sensor design as s2 but upgraded software. Not saying you aren't correct, just want to figure out which one it has.
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From the tear down videos/sites that I have seen they have said improved iphone 4s, try to Google it and see what they say, I might be wrong too but I'm going off the info I've seen on my rss feeds and Google searches
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...era-versus-htc-one-x-iphone-4s/?tag=cnetRiver
read this camera comparison article for s3 and others.
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http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...era-versus-htc-one-x-iphone-4s/?tag=cnetRiver
read this camera comparison article for s3 and others.
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I think that comparison is pretty spot on. You can tell from the comparisons that no phone holds the win every time. They are all great phones with great cameras.
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It almost looks like the all the iPhone photos were artificially saturated, because it's supposedly better to err on the side of too saturated than "washed out reality", for the average joe.
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There's a review of the phone that mentioned that the HDR mode was the only good shots and those are really nice.
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Here are some updated shots. I played with the S3 and got the settings I liked. One thing I didn't point out in the first set of pictures is if you zoom in on the pictures you'll notice more detail in the S3 shots, mainly because of the higher pixel count.
I think personally, the s3 camera is quite better. It has more tweaking you can do to get the shots you want. I really love the "Smile Shot" that takes a photo when it detects a smile or the fact you can say "Cheese" and it have take photos.
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wow i love your shots. THanks so much for doing this. I think in normal conditions from all the reviews and shots i've seen, the galaxy s3's photos look washed out, but it seems like with some settings it can be adjusted for. Does this affect the low light shots? (make them worse?)
I was pretty happy with this one.
Pics from my One X
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I'm brand new here but felt that I had to comment as some here seem to be close to hari kiri (sic) over some reviews.
I do feel that the screen will be a little low on colour saturation but it's by no means terrible - and the adjustment options included in the final software should fix this. But what I really want to talk about is the camera.
Phonearena have been especially vocal about how the camera doesn't match up to the competition but I'm absolutely amazed that they've missed a glaring error in their analysis! Because of the boost in mp's and the different focal lengths of each phone, when they're doing a 100% crop comparison, they're clearly zooming in much, much further on the XZ. I don't think it's intentional but if you look at the crops they give, the difference is clear. The XZ i
Now I'm not saying that Sony haven't been a little heavy handed in their compression - they have. BUT if you zoom in comparison shots to the SAME CROP the difference is far less pronounced than some would have you believe. Indeed, if you zoomed in the other shots to the same depth as the XZ zoom they would become a mess of pixels - better defined pixels, sure, but no more usable for it.
Is the camera on the XZ blowing me away? I dunno, I'll put it to the test when I get it. But don't write it off based on comparissons with other phones unless you do the tests yourselves because phonearena have done a half-assed job, frankly.
Your thoughts below, please.
Great observation. I do see the compression as a necessary, temporary downside to putting a 13mp camera on a smartphone. They're probably working on keeping the responsiveness up first; hopefully the compression will get better through software updates.
That Phonearena review was biased.... i tell u why....:
1. They ranked devices on every domain and listed lumia 920 and XZ with least ranking however ... where these two stood out to be better than others ... they skipped raking quite cleverly.
2. They even ranked Lumia 920 and XZ in night mode as bad shooters LOL at them... everybody knows the truth.
3. They even placed 1-2 cheeky discouraging lines in low light mode review about XZ.
4. In Detail they ranked XZ last. that was a big fail even their own pics that were taken... small boards really far away were much readable on XZ than others.
5. They always used superior auto mode in XZ but used manual settings in others..... obviously XZ will be confused in special conditions like a well lit building at night and surrounding trees which are not much in light... use manual settings there and i m sure XZ will tear others apart.
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That Phonearena review was biased.... i tell u why....:
1. They ranked devices on every domain and listed lumia 920 and XZ with least ranking however ... where these two stood out to be better than others ... they skipped raking quite cleverly.
2. They even ranked Lumia 920 and XZ in night mode as bad shooters LOL at them... everybody knows the truth.
3. They even placed 1-2 cheeky discouraging lines in low light mode review about XZ.
4. In Detail they ranked XZ last. that was a big fail even their own pics that were taken... small boards really far away were much readable on XZ than others.
5. They always used superior auto mode in XZ but used manual settings in others..... obviously XZ will be confused in special conditions like a well lit building at night and surrounding trees which are not much in light... use manual settings there and i m sure XZ will tear others apart.
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I'm not sure but I think they would get better results with superior auto. I think PA did not use superior auto.
I think we shoul wait for more precise reviews like the GSMarena one which is by far, one of the best out there.
But I won't be surprise if the XZ's camera won't match nowadays' best 8 MP standards, Sony has been trailing behind for quite some time now in the Photo department.
yeah that comparison doesn't make any sense both Samsungs where over exposed for most of the photos, big difference in iso use etc etc. clearly done by someone who doesn't know anything about photography
I don't take PA reviews very seriously - specially when it comes to cameras. Somehow they find samsung cameras pretty good which is very questionable - I think. I've owned all three samsung galaxy phones. GS1 camera was horrible, GS2 was average and GS3 is also average. HOX has a better camera, Xperia T is better than both.Xperia Z should be even better. And I don't take pictures with lousy auto mode.
PA reviews are usually good except for the camera part - they simply don't understand photography. If you read their comparison, you can just tell that it was written by a noob.
What i don't understand is the photos posted by someone here on Google+ definitely looks good.
check these out:
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At first, I thought the photos above are not from XZ. They are really clear, sharp, and vibrant. I don't see noise in them.
They are miles better than what PA and other sites are posting. How could this happen? Different software or versions?
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What i don't understand is the photos posted by someone here on Google+ definitely looks good.
check these out:
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At first, I thought the photos above are not from XZ. They are really clear, sharp, and vibrant. I don't see noise in them.
They are miles better than what PA and other sites are posting. How could this happen? Different software or versions?
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I have analysed these images... On a bigger screen ..with zoomed in depth... They look good surely... That is why PA have lost it....
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I'm not sure but I think they would get better results with superior auto. I think PA did not use superior auto.
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They used superior auto... In some domains they even wrote it... Never used HDR .... I think superior auto was in most situations... So.many times this superior auto mode gets things wrong... It should be used when u r super noob in photography.... Not in a picture comparison
seen that review and i can say it is a total bias.
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seen that review and i can say it is a total bias.
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That's a common opinion about Phonearena's reviews. Many reviews were considered biased, with results that nobody is able to replicate etc. I wouldn't pay much attention to it - no matter if it's positive or negative.
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I don't take PA reviews very seriously - specially when it comes to cameras. Somehow they find samsung cameras pretty good which is very questionable - I think. I've owned all three samsung galaxy phones. GS1 camera was horrible, GS2 was average and GS3 is also average. HOX has a better camera, Xperia T is better than both.Xperia Z should be even better. And I don't take pictures with lousy auto mode.
PA reviews are usually good except for the camera part - they simply don't understand photography. If you read their comparison, you can just tell that it was written by a noob.
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I thought I was the only one who shared this view seeing as last year I had the Xperia S & T, S3 & N2 and HOX and for starters I believe Iphone arena claimed the camera on the HOX and Xperia T were mediocre compared with S3 (N2 has same camera as S3 anyway). That was total B.S The camera on the T and HOX and even Xperia S were far better than the samsung cameras both outdoors and indoors and at night, especially indoors with lighting where the S3/N2 cameras became washed out and I tested the camera's vs eachother same angles etc and the samsung cameras were the worst.
I have also compared the camera on the lumia 920 vs s3/N2 in shops and the lumia 920 looks better.
Even looking at the images IPA have done with the Z the images look great.
Its hard to believe all those reviews... Who even knows whether they are giving us true/genuine pictures- its upto the eidtor/reviewer to give us genuine review. Not even their webmaster will know it whether they are genuine.. There were plenty of crtitcism from reader about engagdet's news articles of apple products once... Some times its very clear in the writing the bias towards non-apple news. Who knows they have been receiving goodies and bucks... I was in straight fire @ one ZNet writer after reading his apple article- he wrote like not even a hardcore apple fan wont writer against android phones- blindly.... They all in US... we donno the truth...
I donno much about phonearena... Also i'm not going to expect much from a tiny smartphone sensor whether its 13mp or 44mp... You have to understand the camera sensors first... As the sensor becomes small in size the light goes thru it also less , hence the picture qaulity... Still the best quality sensor gives best results... In smartphone case the photographer has to be very careful and still as much as the object to get nice photos... Image stabilization is there , but its nowhere near of DSLR or other proper cameras.... So each time you take a picture its different although same object , same angle or whatever you can imagine there.... Competition in smartphone arena is to make thinnest phone... as the phone goes thinner camera sensor goes smaller(thinner) too.. otherwise you will see a bump where camera sits (like in pureview).....
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Comparing camera samples with best in same resolution category... done by PureViewClub : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbSjQS-2h1w
In my opinion 808 turns out best (but less vibrant colors but with so less noise and more detail) , next is lumia 920 and then SXZ (not far behind) i call it tie for 2nd place... then n8 and then SXS comes last due to heavy noise everywhere. but then it is just my opinion.
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Comparing camera samples with best in same resolution category... done by PureViewClub : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbSjQS-2h1w
In my opinion 808 turns out best (but less vibrant colors but with so less noise and more detail) , next is lumia 920 and then SXZ (not far behind) i call it tie for 2nd place... then n8 and then SXS comes last due to heavy noise everywhere. but then it is just my opinion.
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Wow, nice find, thanks for posting that.
My take away is this (and I'm sad to say) there STILL is no perfect smartphone camera. I've owned an 808 Pureview and while it excels at most shots, it is not very good at closeup macro shots, as seen in this video.
I am glad for this video, though. The camera is the single most important feature in a phone to me right now. I keep thinking each new phone is going to have that "perfect" camera sensor, but it probably is not going to happen in the foreseeable future. The Z is certainly not the answer. I don't think the One will be much better. Even the Mighty 808 Pureview lacks in some regard.
I think I may need to rethink my priorities and pick the other features I like most in a phone.
stiffi2011 said:
Wow, nice find, thanks for posting that.
My take away is this (and I'm sad to say) there STILL is no perfect smartphone camera. I've owned an 808 Pureview and while it excels at most shots, it is not very good at closeup macro shots, as seen in this video.
I am glad for this video, though. The camera is the single most important feature in a phone to me right now. I keep thinking each new phone is going to have that "perfect" camera sensor, but it probably is not going to happen in the foreseeable future. The Z is certainly not the answer. I don't think the One will be much better. Even the Mighty 808 Pureview lacks in some regard.
I think I may need to rethink my priorities and pick the other features I like most in a phone.
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Wait till something like http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_w880_amoled_12m-2948.php comes again to mobiles (it failed last time)... but that phone will be thick... i think best option for a camera lover is lumia 1000 or EOS (for now)...
stiffi2011 said:
Wow, nice find, thanks for posting that.
My take away is this (and I'm sad to say) there STILL is no perfect smartphone camera. I've owned an 808 Pureview and while it excels at most shots, it is not very good at closeup macro shots, as seen in this video.
I am glad for this video, though. The camera is the single most important feature in a phone to me right now. I keep thinking each new phone is going to have that "perfect" camera sensor, but it probably is not going to happen in the foreseeable future. The Z is certainly not the answer. I don't think the One will be much better. Even the Mighty 808 Pureview lacks in some regard.
I think I may need to rethink my priorities and pick the other features I like most in a phone.
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I have a Pureview also. To get good macros you actually need to be a bit further away from the subject and zoom slightly, produces excellent macros that way. Without using that technique it does struggle a bit with finding focus in macro shots.
Regarding Pureview having less vibrant colours - they are less vibrant but more true to life in my experience. Have yet to find a phone camera with better colour reproduction, and I've tried nearly all high-end phones over the last 6 years.
It definitely isn't perfect, but it is a huge leap over every other phone out there so far - the sheer lack of noise is utterly staggering. Better than my Lumix FZ-100 in that regard, and while the FZ-100 is by no means an incredible camera, it still blows my mind a little how much better shots are from my 808 a lot of the time.
hehe, Talking about Camera Comparission. X10i vs Z
Surprisingly, I haven't seen any camera comparisons between the One and One X.
Seeing how many of us are upgrading FROM a One X, I'd love to see some comparison shots. To me, the camera is a huge deciding factor.
Anyone have a a link to such a comparison?
huh? there are already so many. i have seen many comparison in pocketnow, , technobuffalo, engadget, the verge, etc. the one seem to perform well against other android devices, even with iphone BUT, honestly, all the results shows that it still loses to the lumia 920.
I just rechecked those reviews and didn't see a single photo comparison between the One and One X.
use your eyes dude. technobuffalo has a whole article for it(compared with the latest phones), pocketnow even has it on its main page(against droid dna), scroll down for the against lumia 920 one.
TechnoBuffalo shows to me that Lumia 920 lost. Daytime detail is functionally identical, while low light noise is noticeably worse than the One.
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use your eyes dude. technobuffalo has a whole article for it(compared with the latest phones), pocketnow even has it on its main page(against droid dna), scroll down for the against lumia 920 one.
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I can clearly see that there are some comparition betw mobilephones, but i can't find HTC One X in the list. Where do You see it?
There are no comparisons between the two yet, I'm sure someone here will do one as soon as they get their hands on the phone though.
You have to consider that review sites aren't likely to compare an old generation phone to a new one from the same company. They're interested in comparing the phones that are current, that are considered the best shooters and that people are most likely to buy. I can't see many people, if any buying a One X over the One once the One is out.....Hence review site's wont see the need to compare the two.
very good question but no one compared them for some reason, there is an evident full size quality loss coming from the One X but otherwise the camera improves on everything else
and i just posted this
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can't wait to try this camera with reduced sharpness
i freaking love it
to be honest i feel they now completed what they started with the One X camera, the camera is no complete (the bold green lines are the new improved abilities, bold red are compromised features)
- Super Fast shutter, much reduced motion blur
- Super fast focus
- Best HDR in class
- Smart Metering Flash light
- Stunning daylight image enhancements
- Stunning daylight detail from One X reduced on the new ultrapixel camera
- Optical OIS reducing motion blur further
- Excellent noiseless low light
- Excellent macro focus
These leaves only tweaknesses, the color balance is currently too much on the warm side and over exposing bright areas (due to the light loving sensor) which can all be tweaked in software
HTC have rewritten the One X camera app from scratch for the JB update which dramatically enhanced the view finder speed, they also improved many of the focus, white balance and low light issues
i have no doubt they will do the same for the new camera
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check my collective post here ultrapixel camera samples
I'm posting up a new camera review/comparison from ZDNet in the camera thread.
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I'm posting up a new camera review/comparison from ZDNet in the camera thread.
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Thx. Were do I find the "camera thread"?
I've come from the One X which I thought had an outstanding camera, better than anything else on the market. I have two mates with SG3's and they were seriously impressed.
Now I have the one I'm equally impressed. The photos look amazing. I'm not blowing them up to examine pixel quality, as I really dont care but on the phone, facebook, printed out, the quality is great.
Indoor and low light blows my socks off. It's seriously impressive what they've done here. You still get detailed shots without the glare of a flash. Seriously impressive