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I'm about to quit the NS

So, as the title states, I am about to quit. I keep having problems with software and hardware alike. I'm like on my tenth NS... I think I would be leaving Android for a while too. If I returned it I would go with a BB 9780. I don't know, I would love your opinions though, because, surprisingly enough, this is a hard decision.
Thanks all.

I say sell it & get the Motorola Atrix when it comes out. It's a really powerful phone. However you might want to wait a few weeks after it's out & get as much feedback & info as possible. You never know.

Thank you, but I'm not interested in Motorola, plus, there will be phones with the same specs, if not better in the coming months. I'm just disappointed in the NS, and I want to stick with Google, they deliver the best Android experience. And I've always loved BB

Omfg a TENTH NS??! Sounds like the store got a bad batch try a different store.
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There's three in my area. I finally bought one online (10th, got it today), and I'm just not happy at all. I was using an old BB 8900 and I loved it.

What is wrong?
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tominater12 said:
What is wrong?
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Another screen crease, volume buttons, random reboot, and a dead pixel.

You seem to be extremely unlucky..

i agree. You are definately very down in luck to have 10? bad NS.
I'm absolutely in love with my NS coming from the N1...

Nesster said:
You seem to be extremely unlucky..
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Yeah, I am... Ok. I made my mind up. I'm gonna return it. I just dont feel the magic anymore. And BB is really pulling me back.
I have a bunch of accessories including two extra batteries (1400mAh) w/charger (china), tech 21 case (from UK), samsung neoprene pouch (eBay). If anyone is interested, $65 shipped, tomorrow even if you wanted.

Worsty said:
i agree. You are definately very down in luck to have 10? bad NS.
I'm absolutely in love with my NS coming from the N1...
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Yeah I agree too, but don't you see how I'm like ready to be done with this ****?! Like, no more NS at all. I'm done.

Easy, killer. If you don't want it, you don't want it. No biggie.

I went through 6 of these before I found a good one.
Now that I do have a good one everything is great. Dead pixel is a problem but the volume rocker seeming loose and the screen crease are not really defects I'd say. The majority have that. If the phone is rebooting on stock 2.3 then you def got a lemon.
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Sorry to hear that. You do have bad luck, dont hope it follows you to your next phone.
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So a "crackberry addict"* couldn't make the switch to android. That's not surprising, it's a big paradigm shift to make.
My iPhone loving friend tried a Vibrant with Froyo and hated it no end. He couldn't make the switch either.
If you went through 10 Nexus S, and they legitimately were defective, you've had the worst luck I've ever seen anyone have with phones.
Thanks for sharing.
*crackberry addict used strictly tongue in cheek and is in no way intended to be some kind of slur

maybe try a HTC device with Froyo 2.2
like the HTC Desire Z
it's an easier switch for BB addicts, it got a real keyboard, fast, and work properly right out of the box without any customization
i'll have picked one up for myself if it came with SAMOLED

distortedloop said:
So a "crackberry addict"* couldn't make the switch to android. That's not surprising, it's a big paradigm shift to make.
My iPhone loving friend tried a Vibrant with Froyo and hated it no end. He couldn't make the switch either.
If you went through 10 Nexus S, and they legitimately were defective, you've had the worst luck I've ever seen anyone have with phones.
Thanks for sharing.
*crackberry addict used strictly tongue in cheek and is in no way intended to be some kind of slur
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Its funny. I had a Bold 9700 and decided to get a mytouch3g 3.5MM and after about a week, sold it and went back to my blackberry bold.. I started to get the itch about 3 months later to buy a Nexus One. Had it for about 1 month and said AGAIN, not for me, and sold it. Went back to a Bold 9700...
Now, I thought about the Nexus S and said hell, why not try it out.. SOLD THE BLACKBERRY after 1 week with the Nexus. I love the nexus s..
It took me a while, but I made the jump and i'm not going back.
Blackberry Pros : Battery life is amazing, Text, Email, BBM, Can drop it off a building and still works, solid phone. KEYBOARD IS AWESOME
Cons: App Store non-existent, almost no memory built into the phones, web is horrible !! Battery Pulls, Freezing ,should I continue ?
A good friend of mine just switched from a tour to an Evo and after a week went back to the Tour.. He is already telling me he misses the web and maps from the evo.
Long story Long : See you back here in a few months when you buy the Galaxy S 2 lol

So "quit" it and be done. Why do people feel the need to announce their every thought here?

kenvan19 said:
So "quit" it and be done. Why do people feel the need to announce their every thought here?
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Because I value you my fellow xda members' opinions. Is that wrong?
I've had every kind of phone, whether it be Android (HTC Magic, Nexus One, Nexus S, WP7 (HD7), iPhone (1, 2, 3, & 4) , BlackBerry (8310, 8900, 9000), Nokia (N96, N97). So, it's not like this was my first Android experience and the NS killed it for me, I'm an experienced Android user, but I will be back one day when something amazing comes out. And for now I'm choosing BB for a replacement. But, I'm not a crackberry addict, I was like two years ago with the Bold 9000, maybe I will be now, but that's beside the point.
I just thought that your guys' opinions mattered, so thanks to the nice people here, and I'll be seeing you guys around later on..
Zach

Quit. This thread is entirely too long for another rant. Don't like it don't keep it.
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What is this" atrix is a bad phone" crap

Maybe im just stupid but damn I love my atrix.... I had inspire returned got atrix never looked back so wtf? Our bootloader is locked that's it.... the device is fast as hell and since 1.8.3 the motoblurr has been my pick with gladatrix so why do people talk about selling it for infuse.inspire and captivate? The inspire lags when over used and the atrix excells in high usage
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I blame it on the vocal minority. I love this phone. Hate motoblur? Download a different launcher. Hate bootlocked devices? Shouldn't have bought this phone. Hate the fingerprint scanner? Don't use this function. Etc... etc..
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its just the same 2 or 3 guys screaming like little girls.

The Atrix is a great device. People need to stop crying about it. No one wants to waste time reading complaints.

If I could marry my Atrix I would! She already accepted my proposal via SMS, but unfortunately, although I am forward thinking, the State of Massachusetts is not, so we cannot wed!

doing the opposite of that is also annoying imho.. (will become so if not yet)
just stop feeding the trolls and they will move elsewhere

I love my phone -- just one complaint really.... as an actual PHONE -- it's a little tough for people to understand me on the other end. I know there are a TON of factors that go into this.. but... still... I find myself just putting a phone call on speaker and talking on it that way. Sounds better and I can have better conversations as opposed to people on the other end going "What?"

s1mpd1ddy said:
I love my phone -- just one complaint really.... as an actual PHONE -- it's a little tough for people to understand me on the other end. I know there are a TON of factors that go into this.. but... still... I find myself just putting a phone call on speaker and talking on it that way. Sounds better and I can have better conversations as opposed to people on the other end going "What?"
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I'm actually used to that. I'm extremely soft spoken, and I always have people on the other end go huh? Or what?
Annoying at first, but it's okay now.
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I just got an Atrix but I've been using an inspire, having a tough time deciding which to sell, might keep both since they're both awesome phones
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Seriously. The phone is great and there are too many vocal winers on this forum for it's own good. That's it. Once we get a few custom kernels unlocking the phone's true potential (+3 multitouch) it will be even better.
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Just a lot of haters on it and Motorola on the internet for obvious reasons.
Plus At&t has a lot to do with it and since most people have their old tech still they want to believe that dual core is pointless and lags with motoblur and blah blah.
Just keep rehashing the same thing over and over again.
Watch if the bionic ever comes to verizon, it will be getting a lot more praise, even though it will be the same phone.
I get no lag on mine, it seems to be getting faster and faster the more crap I install on it. There were obviously some buggy models but if you get a good one, there's not too much to complain about it.
The browser is probably one of the best and that's what most people use their smartphones for.

Devnant said:
Seriously. The phone is great and there are too many vocal winers on this forum for it's own good. That's it. Once we get a few custom kernels unlocking the phone's true potential (+3 multitouch) it will be even better.
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You'r gonna be waiting a long time before moto unlocks this phone if they ever do which I doubt. Lts see how much you love this phone in six months when nothing has changed and much better phones are available.
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yeah, too many whiners on this forum.
i have been a power user of phones since my blue angel sx66 back in the day. i was a primarily winmo user (sometimes palm and bb for work) until recently when i tried wp7 and have now moved on to this atrix.
i really don't have any features that i am missing except remote desktop.
i like my atrix and still have my surround and tilt 2. but i still keep using my atrix. there are far too many clowns in here talking about dumb stuff and half of them don't even own an atrix.
and so what if something better comes out in six months. guess what??? there will always be something better coming out in six months. get in where you fit in.

My Atrix rocks. It's really snappy, it never lags and battery life is insane. When I had my Milestone, I could only squeeze 12 to 15 hrs from it with moderate use. My Atrix can hold a charge for 20+ hours with heavy use, even more if I use the Lapdock since it charges the phone.
Very happy with this device!

I agree with the vocal minority theory. Many of these people look at the locked bootloader and try to convince themselves it somehow makes the phone subpar, or they listen to the vocal minority group that says AT&T sucks and translate that to their phone.
I haven't owned any android phones in the past because I've heard from others that they're slow and laggy. However, I bought the Atrix because seeing one in person, it was exactly the opposite. Having owned mine for a month now (as of today, in fact), its still just as zippy (if not more zippy) than the day I bought it.
Exador said:
You'r gonna be waiting a long time before moto unlocks this phone if they ever do which I doubt. Lts see how much you love this phone in six months when nothing has changed and much better phones are available.
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I believe he's referring to the kexec bypass by Kholk, not an official Motorola unlock. Once that is available and we have custom kernels, I'd be surprised if there isn't a reversal in attitude among these people.

s1mpd1ddy said:
I love my phone -- just one complaint really.... as an actual PHONE -- it's a little tough for people to understand me on the other end. I know there are a TON of factors that go into this.. but... still... I find myself just putting a phone call on speaker and talking on it that way. Sounds better and I can have better conversations as opposed to people on the other end going "What?"
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Check your background noise supression.. ( under call settings) wifes atrix was hard to hear till I turned it off..

gammite said:
yeah, too many whiners on this forum.
i have been a power user of phones since my blue angel sx66 back in the day. i was a primarily winmo user (sometimes palm and bb for work) until recently when i tried wp7 and have now moved on to this atrix.
i really don't have any features that i am missing except remote desktop.
i like my atrix and still have my surround and tilt 2. but i still keep using my atrix. there are far too many clowns in here talking about dumb stuff and half of them don't even own an atrix.
and so what if something better comes out in six months. guess what??? there will always be something better coming out in six months. get in where you fit in.
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Hey -- check out Teamviewer on the market --- all you need to do is install the server on your PC, and the app on your phone, and voila --- Remote Desktop.
the best part? .... its FREE for home users.

This phone is pretty cool. ONLY after it is rooted. I almost sold this phone until I rooted and put gibgerblur on it. I customized it to my liking and now I love it.
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DroidBabe said:
This phone is pretty cool. ONLY after it is rooted. I almost sold this phone until I rooted and put gibgerblur on it. I customized it to my liking and now I love it.
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Rooting rules for real for real!!!
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s1mpd1ddy said:
Hey -- check out Teamviewer on the market --- all you need to do is install the server on your PC, and the app on your phone, and voila --- Remote Desktop.
the best part? .... its FREE for home users.
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i have played with it. i dunno if i trust it. i can't see why they let it be used for no charge.

Picking a new Verizon phone

I need some help here. The wife is getting a new phone and I want it to be one that runs great and has plenty of support for me to root it. What would suggest and why? Thanks guys.
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Is your wife a techie? I find that rooting the phone of a non-techie can lead to complications.

Yeah she is not a phone techie but her last 2 phones I put roms on. Motodroid and thunderbolt.
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z33dev33l said:
Is your wife a techie? I find that rooting the phone of a non-techie can lead to complications.
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I would listen to z33, he knows from experience (now he is using wp7...the OS for the technically handicapped). I would get the galaxy nexus. Great phone, and super easy to root, unlock bootloader, and flash.

lowandbehold said:
I would listen to z33, he knows from experience (now he is using wp7...the OS for the technically handicapped). I would get the galaxy nexus. Great phone, and super easy to root, unlock bootloader, and flash.
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Just a $100 bucks more than we want to spend. Gonna be a sweet phone though no doubt. I love samsung. The wife thinks they are too light weight and thus feel cheaply made. :/

snsangston said:
Just a $100 bucks more than we want to spend. Gonna be a sweet phone though no doubt. I love samsung. The wife thinks they are too light weight and thus feel cheaply made. :/
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Hmm, I don't know then. The Rezound isn't really a good phone for a wife, and I am hard pressed to recommend a "Droid" anything...

She is really iffy about htc because her thunderbolt keeps dropping 4g all the time and my charge doesnt
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snsangston said:
I need some help here. The wife is getting a new phone and I want it to be one that runs great and has plenty of support for me to root it. What would suggest and why? Thanks guys.
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The DROID RAZR maxx seems to be a good phone. The battery life appears to be amazing on it which is half the problem with most phones.
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Yeah that is actually what we are leaning towards.
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Waddle said:
The DROID RAZR maxx seems to be a good phone. The battery life appears to be amazing on it which is half the problem with most phones.
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It's not the battery life that is amazing..it is the size of the battery.

The lte dropping isn't the phone. Its Verizon's CDMA and LTE authentication methods in place. My gnex drops data completely at times BC they haven't figured out how to successfully authenticate sim cards 100%yet. Its dumb....I lose data once a day at least. Recently 45minutes ago on my ten minute drive home steaming spotify
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You gotta go with the nexus, everything about it is far superior. Unless you want to print poster size pics from the phone camera, if so apple wins.
The Rezound is terrible, the Razr Maxx is alright but has too much bezel and i'm not a huge fan of motoblur. She'll out the extra $ and get the Nexus, it'll also be first in updates and rooting it is ridiculously easy.

Just upgraded from the Atrix 4g

And all I can say is OMG. I love this thing, I dont think I have ever owned a better electronic device in my life. Its the first true phone I an say makes the iPhone 4gs look like a pocket watch. I cant wait to start flashing but Im going to stick with the stock rom for a few weeks just so I know how it feels and I can fairly compare other roms.
Ohh and Im so glad im done with the Atrix. Thing failed on me three times.

I had the Atrix ...loved that thing. Anywho, welcome!
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Ohh and Im so glad im done with the Atrix. Thing failed on me three times.
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I had the Atrix as well. Oh man what a headache that was.
Warning: Storytime
It was a good concept, but was rather gimmicky. The fingerprint scanner never worked unless you hit it right on the money, so never used it. People had a hard time hearing me during calls. In September I started getting the dreaded sleep of death. Then my wifi stopped working from time to time. It progressively got worse through the winter, and then in February it died for good. Finally, the ear speaker died last week . Could not take calls unless I used speakerphone, so yeah time for new phone. I was not due for an upgrade till October, but luckily a family member on my plan was. AT&T allowed us to switch our upgrade times so I could get a new phone. She is an Iphone user and the new one isn't coming out till this fall (supposedly), so she was fine with it. The problems I had seem to be fairly common. I am pretty sure a phone is supposed to last longer than a year. Apparently, there is a new Atrix out, but I still got this phone without any hesitation.

Bummer man. I loved my Atrix and never had any of those problems. But I am definitely enjoying the speed and screen of the S3!
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I also came from the atrix! Loved that phone so much and loved the dev for it. Now my dad is using it never had one prob with it at all. My mom also has the atrix and she loves it too. I am loving the s3 way more though great device the best ive ever had for sure
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I've also switched from an Atrix. The only problem that I've had with it is an occasional reboot on its own. Otherwise I have truly enjoyed the phone. I've passed it down to my daughter who is loving it. She also thinks she is pretty cool with her lapdock!
So far I like this S3. I'm having to get used to the TouchWiz. But then again I also had to get used to MotoBlur.

JayRolla said:
And all I can say is OMG. I love this thing, I dont think I have ever owned a better electronic device in my life. Its the first true phone I an say makes the iPhone 4gs look like a pocket watch. I cant wait to start flashing but Im going to stick with the stock rom for a few weeks just so I know how it feels and I can fairly compare other roms.
Ohh and Im so glad im done with the Atrix. Thing failed on me three times.
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I still love my Atrix. I love the whole thing with the Lapdock, wish this phone had that.
Edit: Oh yea my mother and little bro both have the Atrix also and refuse to get another phone. They get around 5 hours screen time battery life, can navigate the entire phone with their thumb, etc.
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I have had one random reboot when recording my buddy go up some crazy stuff in his lifted jeep, that kind of sucked.
I also miss having no HDMI out?:crying:

Thinking of buying N4

Hi guys, I'm thinking of buying a N4 in a month or so, and just wanted to ask for your opinions and thoughts about this phone. Thanks

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Hi guys, I'm thinking of buying a N4 in a month or so, and just wanted to ask for your opinions and thoughts about this phone. Thanks
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Worth the $350 I paid for it. Nice screen. Feels solid in hand. Performs well. Oh and its a nexus.
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i personally own a htc one s and thought about buying a nexus 4 as well. i think its a great phone with great hardware and a nice design. especially the white one looks fantastic in my opinion. the only thing i dont like that much is the backside of it.. i dont like the glass there, thats why i will wait for the hopefully soon releasibg nexus 5
cheers
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robin216 said:
i personally own a htc one s and thought about buying a nexus 4 as well. i think its a great phone with great hardware and a nice design. especially the white one looks fantastic in my opinion. the only thing i dont like that much is the backside of it.. i dont like the glass there, thats why i will wait for the hopefully soon releasibg nexus 5
cheers
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Define "soon" . you may be waiting until around November or so. I think the back glass itself is sleek as all hell. I'm just afraid of breaking it. So I put it in a case where I don't get to enjoy its beauty.
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i am praying every evening that google release it the next day
yes, i would also use a case, but the back of the n4 is too nice :/
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Here's what I said in a thread of someone asking if it's worth it. Basically: you should buy it.
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The main pros of the Nexus 4 that I keep listing anytime I tell people about it are the following:
1. Price. $350 is pretty much half the price of any other competitor to the Nexus 4
2. Pure Android, updated directly from Google. As soon as a new version of Android is released, it's on the Nexus. Google develops Android FOR this device.
3. Design. Glass front and back, it's a solid phone. Looks sleek.
Now, newly-released phones do have slightly better hardware. But we're getting to the point of diminishing returns. We're packing so much hardware into these devices, you'll hard-pressed to find software that actually makes use of it. I think the only debate you should be having is buy the Nexus 4 now, or wait until the next Nexus comes out, possible during the holidays. That isn't to say this phone won't still be a solid phone then, but I can understand if some people wait to buy updated versions.
To answer your question: yes. It is definitely worth it. At $350, it's fiscally irresponsible NOT to buy a Nexus 4. Right now I'm paying $30/mo for a tablet plan on AT&T with 3gb of data. Having weird and crazy options like that don't seem to happen with other phones. I feel like the Nexus 4 is YOUR phone, not 80% your phone, 20% the manufacturer's.
Spoiler alert: I might be a little biased, but c'mon. It's a sweet phone.
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Ringke fusion has a transparent back, nice case also.
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Do it. Don't ask questions. Do it. You will NOT regret it. I've had mine for about 5 days. It's fantastic.
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You're falling further behind, get it asap and let the good times roll!

Thanks everyone for replies, especially @Johmama . How's the battery life and speaker sound? I wish I could buy it now, but I have tickets to pay so I have to wait a month

Not to mention the strong development support, if you're the adventurous type it's nearly impossible to hard-brick a Nexus.
Pure Android (AOSP) is rather nice by itself and I could live with that, but I like to go custom a bit .

DarkLP said:
Thanks everyone for replies, especially @Johmama . How's the battery life and speaker sound? I wish I could buy it now, but I have tickets to pay so I have to wait a month
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Well battery isn't as long as say a Galaxy S3 with a 7000mAh extended battery on it. The N4 uses a 2100mAh battery and depending on your usage, it could last maybe 4 hours of constant screen usage at full brightness (screen takes most the battery), or it can last over 21 with the occasional checking of facbook, emails, etc once every couple of hours.
Here's a screenshot when I finally got it down to zero percent. (it stayed idle overnight as I slept, and then I used it here and there during the day.)

AIDAKU said:
This is nexus forum...What do you expect nexus owners to tell you...
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LoL, true we may be bias, but I'll at least tell you quirks I've noticed. Even so I'd still pick an N4 unless all the other brands want to ship full AOSP at the same price and include extras like maybe a micro-SD card slot or replaceable battery . I kind of wish you could use USB-OTG without a 5V adapter, but I don't use my phone the same way I use my Tablet.

DarkLP said:
Thanks everyone for replies, especially @Johmama . How's the battery life and speaker sound? I wish I could buy it now, but I have tickets to pay so I have to wait a month
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It usually lasts me the whole day until late. I'm not constantly using it, however. I'm on all stock so you'd get much better battery running a different kernel and rom

AIDAKU said:
This is nexus forum...What do you expect nexus owners to tell you...
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Well I'm not buying a phone of any of you, so it's not like someone has to advertise it so I'd buy it. That's why I asked in N4 forum, because all of you have N4.

Basic stuff like Wifi and 3G data have hardware or driver problems. I sometimes wish I'd paid $100 more for a phone that has had more testing/QA. (Not sure there is a better phone for only $100 more, though.) I still prefer this phone to the SGS3, which has fundamentally bad OS design and poor compatibility with third party Android builds.