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Hi Folks,
I'm reading this forum since about 1,5 weeks, as I got my first smartphone then. Unfortunaly I sent it back today, as it got broken yesterday. It has the problem, that the touchscreen doesn't untouch. I made a picture:
I can get rid of this touched area by pressing on it with my fingernail and move it to the bottom.
I think it's from that lether case. Anybody else ever had a problem like that? Probably with another phone type?
Looks like condensation under the screen to me.
Reapply screen protector... That's it..
I thought about water also, but under the microscope we have seen that it wasn't water. I was able to remove it restless until I touched it next.
I removed the screenprotector, but that wasn't a solution.
Unfortonaly I had to send it back today, as I'll get a brandnew one within the first 14 Days after delivery
Wow that's new. Mebe condensation.
Maybe since the touch part is 2 layers, Glass and Plastic screen hovering on top of that, that it got too hot somehow and that the plastic part got stuck to the glass. mebe if you had let it cool or something it woulda unstuck.
Was the phone near any heat or in direct sunlight?\
This looks like a cracked digitizer, a touch sensitive layer above the screen itself. The screen underneath usually seems to be fine, but it doesn't have the touch capabilities anymore. It has a look of spilled liquid and you should be able to see dots of the touch grid, you can't see them normally. It happened to me on my Orbit2. I think whole screen has to be changed...
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This looks like a cracked digitizer, a touch sensitive layer above the screen itself. The screen underneath usually seems to be fine, but it doesn't have the touch capabilities anymore. It has a look of spilled liquid and you should be able to see dots of the touch grid, you can't see them normally. It happened to me on my Orbit2. I think whole screen has to be changed...
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I thought about something like that too. Has the digitizer a "spazial" filling, so that you have a "soft feeling" when you tab it with the penzil?
HTC Touch Freak said:
Wow that's new. Mebe condensation.
Maybe since the touch part is 2 layers, Glass and Plastic screen hovering on top of that, that it got too hot somehow and that the plastic part got stuck to the glass. mebe if you had let it cool or something it woulda unstuck.
Was the phone near any heat or in direct sunlight?\
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I had the phone in my trouser pocket every day. No sunlight or heat. I tried cooling down...no chance. I had a Cassiopeia once and had a waterdamage to it. There I was able to get the water out of the touchpad by having it on my heating for a few days. But it looked not like this here.
HI
i have the same problem with my diamond2.. i have on screen brando ultra clear ,i have called assistance and i must ship to them
now what i do, i must try to remove screenprotector before carry the phone to assistance or no?
help me
excuse for my bad english
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HI
i have the same problem with my diamond2.. i have on screen brando ultra clear ,i have called assistance and i must ship to them
now what i do, i must try to remove screenprotector before carry the phone to assistance or no?
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I had the same screen protector...strange. I removed it before i sent it back. After removing I tried, but the error wasn't gone. I think better remove it before sending it back, but you should also try if this fixes the problem. Tell us if or if not
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I had the same screen protector...strange. I removed it before i sent it back. After removing I tried, but the error wasn't gone. I think better remove it before sending it back, but you should also try if this fixes the problem. Tell us if or if not
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i have removed the screenprotector but is the same error, i have sended it to assistance center this afternoon...
i wouldn't pay for damage why the phone is never fall
i hope well
Just had the same problem with my Td2. Not impressed. The phone was fine one minute as listening to my music on it, popped it in my pocket went upstairs ang got this blob right in the centre of the screen.
Glad I took the insurance now as this is going to have to get sent back. Not overly impressed as only had the phone for 6 weeks and having a problem with the build.
Just a quick question for those that had this problem. Was the damaged screen visible under all types of light?
I ask this because taking into different rooms in my house and different types of light it seems to disappear, then reappears under other light sources. I will test in the daytime tomorrow but am now starting to wonder exactly how long it has been there...
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Just a quick question for those that had this problem. Was the damaged screen visible under all types of light?
I ask this because taking into different rooms in my house and different types of light it seems to disappear, then reappears under other light sources. I will test in the daytime tomorrow but am now starting to wonder exactly how long it has been there...
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My "blob" couldn't be seen when I looked straight from above. As on my pictrue I had to look from a angle to see it. Also it was hard to see under bright daylight. Hope that helps.
But I have a question also: You all used the leather bag shipped with the phone? I think the case isn't plain enought inside. I think there is a higher pressure one the display while wearing it in my trouser pocket. Anybody else who can tell more about that?
I've the same problem, at least I think it is the same. Touch still works fine, but it seems like there is some condensation underneath the screen.
I can confirm that it has nothing to do with the screenprotector.
If I put my finger on it, it moves to the sides. Sometimes it seems to be gone, but after a while I notice it again.
It's a very colourful stain. Can I claim warranty for this kind of 'errors'?
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It's a very colourful stain. Can I claim warranty for this kind of 'errors'?
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As you are the 4th in this thread I think so
It's not under warranty of HTC, at least that's what they told me...
Did somebody else contacted HTC about this problem?
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It's not under warranty of HTC, at least that's what they told me...
Did somebody else contacted HTC about this problem?
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too bad it seems like they classify it under 'cracked display' - and according to the user manual it is not covered by warranty.
Probably, but I think it's just an error of HTC. The way they treat their loyal customers is, in my opinion, verry disappointing. It was the same with the problems everyone had with the TytnII.
Today I got my phone back from my provider...the same broken one. In the letter they told my I sent it back too later
Now I'm dissapointed from o2 Germany, cause the customer support told me what to do and I did it.
guys i had the same problem (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519441) and i got a replacement. but i tell you.. this is caused because one time the phone got hit by pressure on the screen and the screen itself kinda felt into the phonecase. check out from the side.. you probably will see that the screen is lowered - then when you use fingers on the touchscreen this blob appears. in my case the screen didnt work anymore as soon the blob appeared... but was able to get it out with some tissue and rubbing.
also i saw some oil liquid under de screen - depending on the light outside.
so.. just take care.. this phone is very sensitive to any pressure on the screen and using it in a trouser pocket is already dangerous!
I've heard of this problem happening on other devices (see here, here, here, and although not what mine looks like, here), but I was wondering what I can do about this problem. This is called Newton's Rings, I believe, and there's a nice wikipedia article about it. Apparently it's a problem under the screen.
It's an oily smudge. It appears to be made up of asymmetric rainbow-colored rings and is apparently under the screen. It is only visible in indoor lighting in certain angles, and is less visible when the screen is on. When pressure is applied around this spot, it appears to shift slightly. It's been present for over a week on my device without much change.
The HD2 has a capacitive screen, so the method to correct these spots (the "duct tape method") is said not to work. How can I fix this problem? I'm pretty sure I didn't cause it since I was careful with my device--it could have been there (most likely) from the time of purchase.
Should I ask for an exchange at my local T mobile store? Should I try duct tape or a vacuum cleaner to suck the screen forward, or should I try to open the device up and detach the screen, or should I beg for a return?
Help!
PS: You might want to check your HD2's as well...
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I think you would have to have a resistive screen to even have this problem. A capacitive screen doesn't have these "layers." And, it requires a curvature to induce the inference rings which a hard glass screen with no layers doesn't have.
I followed a couple of them threads some time ago, and if I remember correctly some users which had this problem you're postin' about have had their hd2 replaced by htc cause it should fall under warranty terms. Return it to your local t-mo store and ask for a replacement. Should they deny that, try calling htc customer care and see if you can send it in to corporate for repair/exchange. I'd recommend that you try official ways first before attempting to disassemble it or to fix it by yourself as you may end up voiding your warranty..
Since you have a US T-Mobile HD2, and it has been less than 14 days and within the return period, you should be able to get it replaced at the store.
This is obviously a problem with the screen and you shouldnt try to fix it in any way. If you have installed or modded it in any way then return it to stock condition and take it back to your store. They are obliged to give you a replacement as it is a faulty unit. do not accept anything less.
Mark.
First of all, why in the hell would you buy such a device with incredible screen real-estate... and NOT place a screen protector on it?
My screen hasn't even been touched by human hands. Let me guess, the next thing you're going to tell us is your device has a scratch on the battery cover...
Having a case on the device would have prevented such an incident from occurring in the first place. Problem solved.
Take better care of your investments folks...
Reignzone said:
First of all, why in the hell would you buy such a device with incredible screen real-estate... and NOT place a screen protector on it?
My screen hasn't even been touched by human hands. Let me guess, the next thing you're going to tell us is your device has a scratch on the battery cover...
Having a case on the device would have prevented such an incident from occurring in the first place. Problem solved.
Take better care of your investments folks...
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I seem to be confused about why you need a screen protector when the screen is glass? I was under the impression that glass screens won't scratch. I can't see how a screen protector would protect a glass screen from pressure, so what's the point?
LOL TRUE!!!!!!!! ^
chrys9989 said:
I seem to be confused about why you need a screen protector when the screen is glass? I was under the impression that glass screens won't scratch. I can't see how a screen protector would protect a glass screen from pressure, so what's the point?
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LOL TRUE!!!!!!!! ^
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Alright, well... I'm not even going to dignify myself a response to your first question... for obvious reasons.
As for pressure... what PRESSURE could you possibly be applying to your device that is apparently going to render the screen useless? It's a ****ING Pocket PC, don't mistreat it. Protect your investments... it's common sense.
Seriously though, your first question... RETHINK exactly what it was that you had asked me... and then I'm pretty sure you'll realize the stupidity.
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Alright, well... I'm not even going to dignify myself a response to your first question... for obvious reasons.
As for pressure... what PRESSURE could you possibly be applying to your device that is apparently going to render the screen useless? It's a ****ING Pocket PC, don't mistreat it. Protect your investments... it's common sense.
Seriously though, your first question... RETHINK exactly what it was that you had asked me... and then I'm pretty sure you'll realize the stupidity.
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I don't get the attitude, I simply asked you, or anyone else who seems to think they need a screen protector on a glass screen; why they feel that way. As far as I know, it's like next to impossible to scratch it, (unless you carry loose diamonds in your pocket) and the pressure comment was me trying to understand why you feel the need to get a protector. With all that said, I wasn't knocking you wanting one (somebody's got to buy them) I was simply trying to see if I was misinformed about the durability of glass screens.
Heh, my bling-bling may scratch my phone screen That's how you can tell they are real diamonds . Though, you make a good point, glass screen shouldn't scratch, and if anything, a crappy thicker screen protector may hinder the conductivity of your fingers? Just my guess. On a side note, had my ipod touch in the same pocket as my keys once (hate the thing, but it was free) The back got scratched to hell, but the screen was nice and unscathed.
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I don't get the attitude, I simply asked you, or anyone else who seems to think they need a screen protector on a glass screen; why they feel that way. As far as I know, it's like next to impossible to scratch it, (unless you carry loose diamonds in your pocket) and the pressure comment was me trying to understand why you feel the need to get a protector. With all that said, I wasn't knocking you wanting one (somebody's got to buy them) I was simply trying to see if I was misinformed about the durability of glass screens.
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Heh, my bling-bling may scratch my phone screen That's how you can tell they are real diamonds . Though, you make a good point, glass screen shouldn't scratch, and if anything, a crappy thicker screen protector may hinder the conductivity of your fingers? Just my guess. On a side note, had my ipod touch in the same pocket as my keys once (hate the thing, but it was free) The back got scratched to hell, but the screen was nice and unscathed.
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Alright. Well, my apologies for the "disrespect".
I'm merely saying that a screen sleeve, protector, or WHATEVER is how someone could go about preventing the oil corrosion that occurs from natural skin oils on the screen.
This isn't oil corrosion. No disrespect from me either, but this unit actually had a screen protector. And a case. So thanks, but no thanks.
curiousGeorge said:
This isn't oil corrosion. No disrespect from me either, but this unit actually had a screen protector. And a case. So thanks, but no thanks.
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I had exactly the same situation with my old Hermes (going back quite a few years). I got it through the post from Tmobile and was playing happily with it for about half an hour until I noticed an oily patch exactly as you describe. Rang up Customer Support and they asked me if I had sat on the phone or knocked it in any way.. And this was after having the phone in my possession for 30 minutes HAHA in the end they told me to take the phone to the nearest store to confirm the problem and I got a straight replacement.
I think its caused by a leak in the LCD. You can try, as sugested on other threads to get some tape and try to pull the glass away from the liquid but this would only really be worth trying if your phone was out of manufacturers warranty. Since you have not had your phone long at all you are entitled to a direct replacement under the Sale of Goods Act.
Going back to earlier posts, too much pressure could cause this sort of problem but as stated with a good quality glass which the HD2 has this is very unlikely unless you had an elephant sit on it
More likely the LCD is defective and if the oily patch is noticeble to you then the seller has no other recourse. If I was you I would deal with this matter as soon as possible though so that you get a stisfactory result.
Mark.
Hey guys.
looking at your device, you have the same problem i have on my HTC TOUCH HD, mine had a small point in the middle, and after a few months it become bigger and now my screen wont work properly.
it means when i perss lets say "START" button, it reacts at the X button in the right of the screen.
adter looking over the net and reading about it, i can see a lot of devices from HTC has this problem, guess its a bad building quality who knows.
maybe it got hit a few times at the screen, maybe pressure who knows.
the thing is, CHANGE THE DEVICE before your screen wont react anymore, mine is Resistive screen. so i took a small niddle and lifted the screen from the left (the volume side) and squeezd it a bit, it went out, but a bit more came back after, that means something or some fluid is between tha screen, the Gap maybe i dont know.
ive also tried with a DUCT TAPE - worked for a few minutes than it came back again, but even when the oily part was gone the screen still was reacting not as before.
also there is a bad sound from the place you have the oily part under it' like if you press it with the Stylus or just your finger.
BE CAREFUL with thos devices!
Also ive heard something about PRESSURE differents between cities / countries and simillar can cause the screen defect.
for example - i live NOW in Eilat, its in Israel, and its a very very low place, i go home once a month, to a higher place (300M above), and it happaned since i moved here. it can be one more of the reasons to cause this defect.
well, my device is ruind, it can barely work now sometimes, if i press the screen from all of the sides or lifting it up with a niddle!
and that sucks!
BTW USE YOUR WARRENTY.
dont let HTC run away from their defaults and defects with thos devices, why do we have to pay on their mistakes of not making a good resistance materials for thos devices...its stupid.
specialy when it happanes to a lot of people with the same Devices!
i dont see any APPLE users having thos peoblems with IPOD / IPHONE!
liav12 said:
Hey guys.
looking at your device, you have the same problem i have on my HTC TOUCH HD, mine had a small point in the middle, and after a few months it become bigger and now my screen wont work properly.
it means when i perss lets say "START" button, it reacts at the X button in the right of the screen.
adter looking over the net and reading about it, i can see a lot of devices from HTC has this problem, guess its a bad building quality who knows.
maybe it got hit a few times at the screen, maybe pressure who knows.
the thing is, CHANGE THE DEVICE before your screen wont react anymore, mine is Resistive screen. so i took a small niddle and lifted the screen from the left (the volume side) and squeezd it a bit, it went out, but a bit more came back after, that means something or some fluid is between tha screen, the Gap maybe i dont know.
ive also tried with a DUCT TAPE - worked for a few minutes than it came back again, but even when the oily part was gone the screen still was reacting not as before.
also there is a bad sound from the place you have the oily part under it' like if you press it with the Stylus or just your finger.
BE CAREFUL with thos devices!
Also ive heard something about PRESSURE differents between cities / countries and simillar can cause the screen defect.
for example - i live NOW in Eilat, its in Israel, and its a very very low place, i go home once a month, to a higher place (300M above), and it happaned since i moved here. it can be one more of the reasons to cause this defect.
well, my device is ruind, it can barely work now sometimes, if i press the screen from all of the sides or lifting it up with a niddle!
and that sucks!
BTW USE YOUR WARRENTY.
dont let HTC run away from their defaults and defects with thos devices, why do we have to pay on their mistakes of not making a good resistance materials for thos devices...its stupid.
specialy when it happanes to a lot of people with the same Devices!
i dont see any APPLE users having thos peoblems with IPOD / IPHONE!
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All touchscreens suffer from defects (yes even ipdods and iphones lol). The trick is to send it back the moment you spot it and not sit on it and wait, hoping it will go away. It wont. You can use the tape method to pull the screen away from the bleed but the liquid will still be there and sooner or later it will just come back.
I noticed a bleed on my OLD hermes the day I got it from brand new, rang up the shop (tmobile uk) and they tried to tell me that I must have sat on it or dropped it. Everyone who purchases a device has a right that it will work for a 'reasonable' amount of time without defects appearing so you have to push your rights and get it changed (not fixed) for a new device.
If your device is out of warranty and you have a bleed on the screen the only thing you can really do is change the screen. These can be found on ebay and not that hard to do. For your Touch HD you can get one *HERE* but you have to weigh up whether its cheaper to just buy a new device or fix the one you have.
And I dont really think atmospheric pressure between different places would have any affect as lcd screens are built to work pretty much anywhere and if that was the case every time someone got on a plane their device would go capput.
Mark.
i know! that sounds not reasonable, but i looked at someone's Thread about that he went out of a plane and he noticed a huge spot in the middle of the screen, and few days later after going back on the flight it was gone.
that thing is very strange.
btw thank you for the link..
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i know! that sounds not reasonable, but i looked at someone's Thread about that he went out of a plane and he noticed a huge spot in the middle of the screen, and few days later after going back on the flight it was gone.
that thing is very strange.
btw thank you for the link..
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Mark.
I an always overprotective of a new gadget, and the Evo I am getting tomorrow will be no exception. I was looking through a blog and I saw an image of the front glass being removed. They noted how easy it is to remove, and lauded this as a feature. When I see this, all I can think is about the horror I felt when I found a stream of dust particles between the LCD and the glass on my iPhone and my Sprint Hero (and yeah, every single other thing I ever get, somehow).
I was thinking about how much I hate this and I want to avoid it this time around. For those of you that use full body cases, have you ever had this problem? For that matter, has ANYONE ever had this problem? I wouldn't be that surprised if it turned out I am alone in my compulsiveness.
Regards!
Pick it up and blow on it....jk
I highly doubt that anyone has had this prob. The reason why on the video it was like that is because he had already taken the screen of a million time before.
there is a tiny gap in the seam between the screen and the housing and i have already seen dust get in there
however i have not seen any dust under the glass (yet) and i have definitely been watching out for it. i'm hoping my silicone skin that covers the seam will help to prevent dust seepage (like it did with my hero, though my hero eventually got dusted regardless)
The n1 had this issue but i have not seen one post about evo with dust. My evo looks and feels like it was built 10x better then my n1.
i have some dust building up on top left corner...right below the hTc logo
I've had dust under my screen on the top left underneath the htc logo for like 2 weeks. I have no idea how it got there. Very aggravating
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I use the seidio active case and have no dust. Had the phone since launch day
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Evos have had issues with the screen rising up due to improper adhesion.
Solution involves using a hairdryer on hot to gently heat the adhesive while pushing down on the screen.
I am uncertain whether what I stated is the correct method or not. I read it some time ago, and I cannot remember where.
Just noticed quite a bit of dust in the upper left corner of the lcd... Can't unsee it now. Seems there are a bunch of reports of this exact area being a problem.
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i have some dust building up on top left corner...right below the hTc logo
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Same here. It is way less noticeable than my hero was.
Top left corner = dust
I noticed dust in the top left corner since 6 days after getting thephone
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We need some pics of phones with this effect. My screen has the dust too. Its bs. It has never been dropped in dirt or near the beach yet when the screen is off its obvious.
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So went to Sprint one day to ask if they could clean the dust that is in the top left corner (which has been done on my previous hero phone a lot) and i was told that they didn't have too because that is normal wear and tear. Like if your car was to get dust in it the dealership wouldn't be responsible. I just laughed in his face and said are you serious. I have all the protection plans and i demanded he go and clean it. Then he tells me that he has to take off my protection screen because he claimed that there was dust under that. Which i know how to put on a screen in dust free area and it was impossible for dust to get under it when the screen is on. This guy was an idiot. So he went in the back and came out moments later saying well we moved the dust off the screen but they couldn't remove it from the phone. I looked at the phone and the dust appeared to be gone. About 15 min later the dust was back. I am not sure was is going on but it is really wierd that all of you have the same dust in the upper left hand corner like mine. Anyone else go to sprint and ask about it? I am curious to here what they have told you. I am going to another sprint store to see what they say to me this time
There is another thread about the same thing. Its probably the headphone jack.
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There is another thread about the same thing. Its probably the headphone jack.
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It is because of the headphone jack. Its going to happen to all EVO's, just the nature dust and having a jack near the screen like that without being fully protected from the lcd screens.. Case's do help and I've heard of plugs coming out to plug into the jack to prevent dust and moisture getting inside.
All of a sudden silicone caps for ports don't sound so 1995 anymore. Im not sure its the headphone jack, to me it looks like its getting in around the earpiece/speaker. Not sure of that though.
My first handset had dust in the upper left corner.. one of the main reasons I asked for an exchange. My second handset has dust accumulating in the same spot but I'm trying to ignore it.. =\
The Evo I have now has dust in the bottom right corner. Noticeably a large piece about 2mm from the bottom. I got sent a replacement from sprint due to another issue, and right out of the plastic packaging i noticed a LARGE piece of dust right in the middle of the screen. Very annoying, and I sent it back. I cannot believe HTC would let this get through a quality inspection.
Ive had my nexus 4, for about a 1week. I'm very careful with my phones. Had the iPhone since the 3G-till the 4S switched back and forth beetween android. Having the G1 and the G2 then G2x and the GS3 now I have the nexus 4. Never having problem with a cracked screen on ANY PHONE. After a long shift at work 12hrs at a (Nissan dealership) I take my phone out of my pocket and the back is cracked?!?! Not once did I drop it or bump it in my jacket. So my only conclusion is that the phone is very sensitive and maybe with the slight pressure with crack? Anyone have same problem or info? Currently waiting for Google to send me my replacement. Hopefully I'm under warrnty for the crack. (fingers crossed)
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You must have bumped it or bent it. Glass doesn't crack by itself. Otherwise there would be tons of these posts on here.
That being said the back glass does look pretty thin, so a hit in the right (wrong) place could do the damage maybe. I dunno. Mine is caseless and it's still perfect.
AW: Back panel cracked in my pocket never dropped?
Maybe heat and cold diferences Do you have a pic of it ?
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There are a few posts out there with this issue.
One off the top pf my head is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1999345
Not sure if it was in that thread or another but I saw a user say they had it on their desk, heard small popping/crackle noise, and the back of his N4 spider webbed from the bottom corner, which would support the idea of the temp changes causing it.
Bull****.
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Because of its size it seems easy to angle it in a way where it can get flexed. I experience this using my.phone in my pockets often.
Two weeks of your time and $64 + shipping there is what it cost me. Google will not cover damage as a warranty claim and LG won't quote a price to repair. Good luck
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christianrms said:
Two weeks of your time and $64 + shipping there is what it cost me. Google will not cover damage as a warranty claim and LG won't quote a price to repair. Good luck
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These phones can't really be kept in a trouser (pant) pocket without some potential problems. I think the main issue is when you go to sit down, your pocket bends into a right angle, and your phone wants to follow that shape. Being a fairly large phone it can't get find a space in your pocket where it isn't under some forces trying to bend it.
Eventually your phone starts to bend slightly, this at best may just cause the glass back to pull away from the back adhesive, at worse it bends enough to break the glass. It seems a similar issues were the cause of Wi-Fi antennas disconnecting internally on the HTC One X.
These type of devices are not called "pocket phones", they are called "smart phones" and don't respond well when stuffed into a trouser pocket.
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Phil
My nexus 4 cracked as well. Had it inside a warm gym changing room then put it in my coat pocket ,which btw is big enough and located so that it wont bend the phone at all. I then went outside (imin the uk where it is snowing hence cold) then pulled it out and it had got a crack on it. Not happy to say the least, and no its not covered by lg warrenty.
PhilipL said:
These phones can't really be kept in a trouser (pant) pocket without some potential problems. I think the main issue is when you go to sit down, your pocket bends into a right angle, and your phone wants to follow that shape. Being a fairly large phone it can't get find a space in your pocket where it isn't under some forces trying to bend it.
Eventually your phone starts to bend slightly, this at best may just cause the glass back to pull away from the back adhesive, at worse it bends enough to break the glass. It seems a similar issues were the cause of Wi-Fi antennas disconnecting internally on the HTC One X.
These type of devices are not called "pocket phones", they are called "smart phones" and don't respond well when stuffed into a trouser pocket.
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Phil
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That's the reason I wear baggy drawers! Carry a lot of things in them including this fragile glass phone! :good:
So I upgraded from my Galaxy S3 to my new S4 with Telus last week.
Yesterday night I was sitting down playing with my phone. I put it in my front pocket, and then took it back out less than 30 seconds later, while still sitting. I keep my phone in an otterbox, with screen protector, and keep nothing else in the pocket I keep my phone.
When I took my phone out, I noticed the display wasn't working. Sounds, etc were fine. After careful examination I noticed 2 small hairline cracks, one from the top middle, going down/left to the side, and another from the left/middle, going towards the other crack - however there is a large space in between where it is not cracked.
The cracks are NOT on the outside plastic piece, nor on the screen protector. They are on the inside screen only. There is some pixelization on the "top" area past the crack, and solid black/not working on the bottom. Never dropped this phone, put any excessive stress/pressure on it - absolutely blows my mind how this could happen.
So I went to Telus today to speak to them, they looked at it and the sales lady confirmed theres no impact marks on front/back and it just seems strange. The manager told me if they sent it away it would be 99% chance not covered under warranty and I would have to pay. He told me my best chance of anything, is to call Samsung. I left more than unimpressed.
So I call Samsung this afternoon. I tell them exactly what happened, draw the scenario out clearly - He tells me physical damage is not covered under warranty and screens do not break themselves. I tell him I agree, but there was no negligence on my part and I feel this must be a defect of some sort. He tells me he has never heard of this happening before and there is nothing he can do for me. I tell him we are are a wall and not understanding each other and ask to speak to a supervisor. Supervisor tells me the best they can do is give me a USP parcel to send my phone in to get looked at. If it's determined if it's physical damage, then I will have to pay to get it fixed and they will send me a quote and the phone back, if it's a defect of some sort they will cover it.
Just by the language that was used in the conversation (IE: Physical Damage, not covered) I don't have very high hopes on this matter. I understand it's physical damage, but that is very broad language. It's not physical damage due to negligence, but can this be proved one way or another? If only the screen shows a hairline crack, but nothing else - could this be my fault? If they do tell me it's not covered and I am to pay - What more can I do? Aside trying to fight Samsung in court over this (High cost, time, chance loosing and paying more), what are my options? Has anyone ever seen this happen before?
I'll upload some pictures in awhile.
Edit: Wow i'm not the only one, this guy wanst using a case though but still! I had an otter box on mine.
TL;DR - Screen broke, never dropped it or used carelessly, Telus won't do anything. Good chance Samsung wont cover it. What do
I had the same issue with my s3 that was in a Otterbox defender... Tmobile and Samsung told me the same thing and I was very disappointed...
The cracks wasn't even visible outside the Otterbox
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And the pictures...
Could the otterbox be putting compression stress on the phone edges?
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I've noticed this device doesn't seem very sturdy. I wouldn't suggest trying this, but if you just hold each end long-ways and give your hands a slight twist it seems it's very flimsy. I don't doubt the gorilla glass 3 is strong as balls but the underlying screen isn't, which is what seems to be cracking a lot.
I think samsung made the phone so thin and poor choice of plastic grade that it can't withstand some normal wear and tear very easily. Had samsung choice an extremely tough plastic compound it may be a different story. Ever seen the plastics used on R/C cars? That stuff is tougher than nails! But hey, at least your screen won't get scratched!
orlandoxpolice said:
Could the otterbox be putting compression stress on the phone edges?
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I was thinking the same thing since my phone was never dropped or anything like that... In my case I would have never noticed my cracking if I didn't clean it
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I'm not sure about the otterbox case putting unnesseary stress on the phone or not. I dug up a few threads on here related to simmilar problems with the S4 - Others have had "pockets breaking AMOLED's" have NOT had a case on their phone.
Tough to say. I guess the case helps from impact damage such as a fall, but the AMOLED screen is still too fragile from flexing, case or no case.
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