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Am I insane, IP4 to SGS2, then back to IP4 now back to SGS2

Don't seem to be able to make my mind up with this phone thing, I came from an Iphone 4 to the SGS2, then I swapped back to an Iphone 4, believing its the best thing to do, still love the Iphone 4, but the guy I swapped with would like to swap back again, and guess what I am extremely tempted.
I miss, Wordsmith, the camera, the weight of the SGS2, the fact its not an Apple device and this place.
But I love the Apps on Itunes, the DPI screen of the Iphone 4, the sound quality of the Iphone4 and the battery life.
HELP ME, blow some reasons at me to come back to a SGS2 again ?

If you come to a galaxy forum they will say do it. If you go to iPhone forum they will say don't.
Personally I like the galaxy I wont trade it for an iPhone.
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Since you're experienced with both devices, and obviously know your own personal pros and cons for each, what makes you think that anyone here could be a better judge than yourself?!
Up to you - your decision

Own two phones

battery life is better in sgs2 once you have rooted and and.optimized. And you can buy 2 batteries for swapping and.also can change.to a bigger battery.
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If you want the phone you have, to be YOURS, then Galaxy S2. If you want the phone you have to still "belong" to Apple, then iPhone 4. And also whatever you ever want to do, the awesome XDA community is always there for support.

By a cheap Battery for the SGS2 and TADA one Pro for the Iphone is gone ... an it gets even better ... buy a scound one

I was previously an iPhone 3GS user ( similar to iphone 4 in terms of sound quality).
Hardware wise, the iPhone has superior audio quality. However, with the right applications, the SGS2 can sound very decent as well (Poweramp + Equaliser).
As for battery life and screen DPI, the SGS2 is superior by far. Just get a good ROM and kernel.
If you miss the iTunes interface, use DoubleTwist. It is basically iTunes for Android. Kies isn't half bad either.

Get a Nokia 3310

Not sure about battery life, but no, DPI is obviously higher on iPhone, since that one's got a higher resolution display of smaller size.

Razer(x) said:
Get a Nokia 3310
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Well, to be honest, the old Nokia 3330 (of which I own one) had a speakerphone sound quality that blew and and still blows out any phone on the market by far. Not to mention the feel and quality of the keypad.

Could always wait for the iphone 5 to deepen your insanity...

Jeremy said:
I was previously an iPhone 3GS user ( similar to iphone 4 in terms of sound quality).
Hardware wise, the iPhone has superior audio quality. However, with the right applications, the SGS2 can sound very decent as well (Poweramp + Equaliser).
As for battery life and screen DPI, the SGS2 is superior by far. Just get a good ROM and kernel.
If you miss the iTunes interface, use DoubleTwist. It is basically iTunes for Android. Kies isn't half bad either.
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Someone obviously hasnt compared the iPhone 4 sound quality to the 3GS. It's a very significant improvement bro.
I would say that an SGS2 with software enhancements sounds better than a 3GS even.

Razer(x) said:
Get a Nokia 3310
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Very well said.... The best PHONE ever....
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Came from an iPhone 4 and I'm so glad I took the plunge. I was sick and tired of the same look and feel of iphone's GUI. I'm still holding on to my iPhone 4 but so far I didnt feel any need or desire to use it. Loving the S2 and Android.

foxcheng said:
Own two phones
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Really cool suggestion !

Razer(x) said:
Get a Nokia 3310
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Wow.. haha.. he's get 100s of 3310s for one S2 or i*hone 4, eh! Would never need to charge a battery, at least till the contract runs out -_-

THUDUK said:
Don't seem to be able to make my mind up with this phone thing, I came from an Iphone 4 to the SGS2, then I swapped back to an Iphone 4, believing its the best thing to do, still love the Iphone 4, but the guy I swapped with would like to swap back again, and guess what I am extremely tempted.
I miss, Wordsmith, the camera, the weight of the SGS2, the fact its not an Apple device and this place.
But I love the Apps on Itunes, the DPI screen of the Iphone 4, the sound quality of the Iphone4 and the battery life.
HELP ME, blow some reasons at me to come back to a SGS2 again ?
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I done the same funny enough but I'll be buying the iPhone 5 when its released. I just prefer iOS, dunno why that is. May have something to do with everyone out there supports it more than any other OS and its very simple and bug free from my experience. The apps blow Androids away, but I do love my S2 and will be keeping it.

I find the sound quality of the S2 to be on par or just slightly below that of the iPhone 4 when you use poweramp + equalizer (coming from an iPhone 4). Is there any proof that the sound quality on either phone is better?

I have just gone from a Samsung Nexus S which I loved to an Iphone 4 16GB which I hated and then did a straight swap for a brand new Galaxy S 2 and I love it! I would never regret getting rid of the Iphone. Just wished Android had the great Natwest Banking app

A small iPhone 4S vs Galaxy Note comparison

ANTI-FANBOY DISCLAIMER:
I am aware that I am on a forum full of people that are geared towards a single OS (Android) and who are more likely than not very biased about which is "better" and which "sucks". I am aware that many are not platform agnostic and have not learned to be objective about different ecosystems. Thus, I am anticipating the possibility of anti-apple comments. Oh well.
Anyways, I just wanted to create this side note to say that I'm platform agnostic for everything and have just about every major commercial platform (Windows/Mac, Android/iOS, Wii/PS3/360). So when I do this comparison I am naturally doing it without fanboyism, although my bias does seep through as I naturally have different preferences than others (just a fact of life, different people like different things). However, I try to be as objective as possible.
Hey all,
I'm sitting here with my black Galaxy Note 16GB and white iPhone 4S 64GB and have been thinking about the two a lot lately, mainly comparing them and considering which I should go with. So here's a comparison:
iPhone 4S
TLDR: The thing "just works" with zero hassle, low time requirements to get what you need done, and pretty much everything that you want software-wise is more than satisfied.
Superior:
- Better UI interface (more intuitive, logically laid out, refined, etc) for pretty much every part of the phone
- A little more smooth in terms of performance
- Does multitasking MUCH better and it is easier to use multitasking. Its quite usual to have about 10 to 15 apps going in the background and being able to comfortably switch between them. That's simply not possible on the Note on 2.3.6 (stock firmware) or is much more difficult to do thanks to the multitasking switching method (recent apps window) and the large RAM/CPU demand of many android apps.
- Cloud sync, if you have a mac, is absolutely wonderful and works better than expected. It just works. No hassle, minimal (almost zero) setup and maintenance time.
- The sound quality on the 4S is MUCH better.
- App store is fantastic, has better apps than the Android. This can't be emphasized enough as there are numerous apps on iPhone that simply have no equivalent in terms of quality. For me, the major ones are the office suite (Keynote, Pages, Numbers) as well as a class manager app called iStudiez. I've tried the equivalents on Android and I have found them to be not up to the quality where I would be willing to use them (bad aesthetics, lacking functionality, doesn't "just work with zero hassle")
- I have zero worries about viruses, malware, etc on my iPhone
- if you know other people with iDevices running iOS 5, then FaceTime/iMessage is great.
- I like that the iPhone uses white for a lot of the background colour. The black backgrounds for the settings, messages, etc on the Note really depresses me and makes the screen seem small.
- Camera is better, and it has better anti-shaky-cam functionality. 1080p video works great and the phone handles it wonderfully. I am able to record lectures in class perfectly.
Inferior:
- The hardware is just not as good as the Note. Screen is claustrophobic/postage-stamp-size and hampers full use of the best apps (Pages, Keynote, Numbers).
- The OS and apps don't take advantage of the resolution. It might as well have a 320 x 480 resolution.
- Some people may not like that its not very customizable. I don't mind it because the stock experience is pretty much perfect. I don't HAVE to change anything. On the other hand, I don't GET to.
Galaxy Note
TLDR: Great, but not as good as the 4S in terms of software (which cripples the phone). But, this will be fixed in time and I doubt even the iPhone 5 will be able to beat the Note once the software becomes even close to being on par.
Superior:
- Hardware is wonderful. The screen allows me to use the phone in a much more advanced, useful way - especially for browsing the web. I have been reading my etextbooks on my Galaxy Note quite regularly and prefer reading off of it rather than my actual physical textbooks. That really goes to show that the Note has an amazing screen because I don't want to read my etextbooks off anything else - and I have some amazing displays at my disposal: a 17" macbook pro screen, a 17" alienware R2 RGBLED screen (best screen ever made IMO), a 27" Thunderbolt display, etc.
- S-Pen is pretty useful just with the stock apps, and I can't wait until iAnnotate comes out along with other apps.
- The OS allows me to customize it more. I don't really like this as I have a tendency to waste my time looking for good upgrades for it, but some people might.
Inferior:
- App store has very few Apps on par with the iPhone editions of them. There are some good ones but generally the quality is lower than the iPhone app store. This is the biggest con. I can't express how much this affects my use of the phone. I can't use the phone for office capabilities because polaris is glitchy, looks bad, and isn't optimized for the screen size, and there is no alternative to iStudiez that is on par with it (already tried class buddy, it's quality is not high enough to be useful to me).
- Stock experience of Android is good but is showing its age compared to the iPhone. ICS should fix this but it won't fix the lack of great apps.
- Camera is not as good, and I can't seem to take 1080p videos over a certain file size. I can't record lectures with it due to the file size thing.
- Viruses on android. My mom got her email hacked because of some stupid malware app (she has a Note and 4S too, but sold her Note because of the security vulnerability and her bad experience with getting hacked).
This review is kinda short but I don't have much free time lately as I am very busy.
The major let down for me was the app store for android. If it was on par with the iPhone app store then I would use the Note over the iPhone even though iOS is superior to Gingerbread. Though this shouldn't be around forever (I give it about two or three years before they are on par), but its crippling the phone for me.
So, what I've ended up doing is using both phones. I use the Note for internet, and the iPhone for everything else. I await the day when I can dump the iPhone as i prefer the hardware of the Note. My prediction is that ICS and its stylus support will encourage more devs onto the platform and will result in better apps, but to what degree I'm not sure. Even if it doesn't immediately result in more good apps coming out, I'm sure that within two or three years the iPhone app market will be saturated enough to persuade developers that they will get more money from Android.
EDIT: I figured out a while ago what the solution is: Buy the Galaxy Note and an iPod Touch and tether the two with wifi while on the go. It gives the best of both worlds for not all that much money (especially if you get a used iPod touch).You get the App store on the iPod touch and the hardware of the Note.
- Liquid

Does multitasking MUCH better and it is easier to use multitasking. Its quite usual to have about 10 to 15 apps going in the background and being able to comfortably switch between them. That's simply not possible on the Note on 2.3.6 (stock firmware) or is much more difficult to do thanks to the multitasking switching method (recent apps window) and the large RAM/CPU demand of many android apps.
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You really don't understand how Android multi-tasking works, do you? Or how it works on iOS, for that matter.

Im not going to bother reading it but I can tell by the longer list of "superior" items under the iphone that android is not for you. Dont want to make this a vs thread but you have no idea what your talking about. You and mom(viruses) should give up android.
Theres a reason I wont allow my wife or mom to purchase a android device. My wife uses a iphone4 and ipad2 daily. Theres absolutely nothing a iphone does better than sgs, sgs2 or note.
Funny thing is family and friends go crazy over all my android devices. With everything they can do. Christmas day, with all my friends over, watching movies/games thru mhl, and the million other things that entertained us. Bought my wife the ipad 2 for christmas and after a weeks time, the only thing that was even fun was the camera mirror photo booth app.
Out of the box android is superior to iphone. Jail-broken iphone only tries to mimic android. Funny thing is my winmo 6 devices were superior to android/iphone years ago.
and android doesnt have a app store lol.

1. 4S is can NOT be jailbroken, the devs are not even close to a solution.
2. Siri, is a gimmick and send all the voice data to apple for processing, this in turn increases your data usage.
3. The visible hardware is unchanged from iPhone4 and Androids have moved ages ahead.
4. iPhone4S has some Simcard issues. Loss of network is the result.
5. The iPhone UI is unchanged since the first 2G. Thats a lot of years of using the same UI. Most people didn't upgrade to 4S from 4 (including me) as the external form factor and the UI was the same. I just couldn't justify spending a bomb on a new fone that looks exactly the same and has the same interface.
6. Theme support? You can not put winterboard or dreamboard ,if you are not jailbroken.
7. iMessage although a nice concept has its own issues. It doesnt come close to Whatsapp or Blackberry Messenger.
The positive things about an iphone is the the resale value due to the novelty value is good and the Accessories that are available. Like the Indash DVD unit of my car syncs to ipod/iphone the Kicker music dock syncs to iphone/ipod etc.
Apple with iPhone 5 will really have to come up with something radical to catch up with the droids i believe.
Edit : How could i forget iPhone are marred by the fact that iTunes exists.
PS. I'm not a Droid fanboy, i used to be a apple fanboy.

Croak said:
You really don't understand how Android multi-tasking works, do you? Or how it works on iOS, for that matter.
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It might be right, that LiquidNitrogen have no idea about dalvik, JVME or JIT-Compiling. What he does is: He is sharing his experience with both devices and the point is, that LiquidNitrogen loves the "no hassle" thing and uses the devices stock - like thousands of people do!
His arguments are only subjective and not scientificaly prooved and thats what apple is turning in to their business: they create products with zero-hassle-experience! Even my Mom could use an Iphone, and she allready has problems using a TV Remote
For me, i like hassle. I want to customize the look of my device and utilize it for doing what i want to, since WinMo 5.0... Android is just perfect for me.
I allways used big screen devices like HTC Universal, Dell Streak, etc.
I cannot understand how apple can sell a poststamp-sized-screen-phone for 700 bucks.... and: i would never buy this device since iTunes is an "must-have" thing. I hate iTunes, there is nothing worse than iTunes. my sister calls me once a week: "i just downloaded a video in .flv format, how can i make iTunes sync this with my iphohe?" you guys know what i mean ;-)

I don't have an iphone, but I thought your post was pretty objective.
Of course, this being the internet, you'll get flamed no matter what you do.
Some things I'd comment on:
LiquidNitrogen said:
pretty much everything that you want software-wise is more than satisfied.
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Software is always personal choice. I think as long as you have facebook, twitter, and angry birds, you satisfy 95% of the general public. That's a slight exaggeration, but not by much actually.
LiquidNitrogen said:
I like that the iPhone uses white for a lot of the background colour.
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I absolutely hate white backgrounds since It's just a battery drainer.
LiquidNitrogen said:
- The OS and apps don't take advantage of the resolution. It might as well have a 320 x 480 resolution.
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I assume you mean fonts/buttons are still large - this is a result of the small screen. Even on the note, some tablet apps are just too painful to use. The text is just too small.
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I don't mind it because the stock experience is pretty much perfect. I don't HAVE to change anything. On the other hand, I don't GET to.
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See 'the paradox of choice'
- Frank

This post made me laugh. The iPhone having better multitasking? Really? No. the iPhone freezes your app that's "open" and there is no "multi tasking" it's monotasking with an icon to reopen where you were.
Cloud sync? Really? I haven't had to backup my contacts in years. Nor my calendar. I have sugarsync and dropbox, mostly sugarsync since I have a paid account with them, for my desktop. I also use it on my phone. It automatically backs up pictures and videos and any folders I want every day on my terms: wifi, plugged in. I don't see "cloud sync" as a pro for iOS. Especially not since it JUST came out. I've been syncing since my blackberry days to Google Contacts and Calendar.
Data usage on the iPhone is also a lot higher. Your email app for example loads emails AGAIN and AGAIN every time you open the email you want to see! Great way to lose data on silly things.
I used an iPhone 4 for almost a year, (that's a long time for me, check my signature), and I liked it but I got SOOO bored :
Tiny screen (not small, TINY...)
UI was so outdated, even though smooth. I'd prefer functional over esthetics. On my Notes desktop I have widgets for everything I need, and direct shortcuts to everything else. In 2 clicks I have wifi, gps, volume, etc. Access to a ton of features. Turning on / off wifi on the iphone is a pain. I'd imagine they did it on purpose as to be too much of a pain to turn it on and then you'd just use your data connection, use more data, and get carriers more money (back to the constant reloading of data)
Games were fun! But they were on such a small screen that text was almost illegible.
Multitasking took FOREVER. Many times I would want to reload an app, and since it wasn't made for saved-state, it would reload! And then there's the whole RELOADING of the app entirely if your ram ran out and your phone decided to recycle it completely while still showing that it's running.
Regardless, I DO agree that the iPhone just works. I also find that they made a huge profit margin on the same product (iphone 4 --> 4s) due to the same frame, screen, memory, buttons, etc.
That's a huge waste for us. Don't people want innovation? Choices? Apple gives you 1 iphone a year, with the same form factor, and the ONLY thing you can choose is memory and color. What if you could only get a car in 2 colors, and if it's a v6 or v8? Everyone would hate that. I think apple limits technology. I do believe Apple does do some things right though: user experience. Just because I love to tinker doesn't mean others do. Cameras, they have fantastic cameras in their phones. And that's about my limit. Ohh... and hyping a device They're good at that, too. haha.
These are my personal opinions. My mom uses a motorola flipout because it's got a physical keyboard. She likes her memory games and simple things that a crappy device gives her. She doesn't need a 600 euro phone (iPhone) that doesn't do anything better than her current 120 euro (unlocked) flipout that I got her 8 months ago, especially for her. Apple doesn't give her the choice for devices. Android devices do: they come in all shapes, prices, sizes and colors.

The OP was very respectful and quite accurate in his shared ideas.
At least as for the sound quality goes the iPhone headphone out trumps the Note one in terms of resolution and soundstage (Easily audible thru my Westone UM3x).
And that's a fact. As the lack of a clean line out is another fact. For music iPhone is still the king however you look at it.
For reading and browisng the Note trumps the iPhone. Obviously.
In the end the OP prefers the Note because of the screen. I don't see any fanboysm on him.
His view on the Android app market is spot on. Android fragmentation prevents apps to reach the quality level that they feature on iOS. It seems that ICS will fight that fragmentation.

IMO, in simplest terms, the iPhone and Note just caters to different people with different tastes.
In terms of library, iOS has a more robust environment compared to Android. And the fact that iOS apps simply "just works" is one feature that people would pay, rather than getting into a hassle.
Convenience has always been the market of choice for Apple, and it delivers.
And no, i do not own an iPhone, but my cousin has one, and i mostly assist when she needs to access the iOS market, so i have an idea of how robust this is.
Granted, the note works "out of the box", but the name of the game is customization, and android delivers. Especially when you decide to "root", and you just have a device, free from restrictions, and capable of becoming anything you want it to (granted, it is within the possibility).
I enjoy tinkering my note. Encountered plethoras of problems, and have grown wiser from it. Learned the capabilities and limitations of my device, and keep pushing it to its limits and beyond.
The note is a modders' dream come true.
I agree that iPhone is easier to use. I also agree that the Note is more superior compared to it. What i don't agree with, is labeling iPhone is superior/inferior to Note, because, based on how you use it, it always boils down to personal preference.
I am not fond of countering arguments, because in the simplest terms, they are just opinions. And opinions basically goes two ways. It's either you agree with it, or you disagree with it, and provide a counter argument.

Any device without a back button = FAIL

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You really don't understand how Android multi-tasking works, do you? Or how it works on iOS, for that matter.
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I disqualified all his review as soon as I read about his opinion regarding multitasking... he has no opinion and doesn't know that ios is a half backed multitasking... lol and let me not start about his cloudsync or even Sirius lol

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You really don't understand how Android multi-tasking works, do you? Or how it works on iOS, for that matter.
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How it works under the hood is only for geeks, 99.99% of the users only care about the user experience and for him its easier on iOS. No need to complicate things.

luv the note but !!!
feel embarassed to use the iphone headset wid it coz the one which came wid the note suckss .rest note is a beast.

Fair comparison, I don't and wont use apple myself but when some friends of mine that are totally clueless about tech stuff ask me what to get. I tell them to get an apple, they work as are and don't need any customization simply because it doesn't let you.
A more techy person will prefer android as its much more open and to get the best out of it you need to get down and dirty a little. Apple is simple and fairly idiot proof thats why the Idiots prefer them only joking lol.
I love the title a small iphone 4s vs NOTE

I have not read your post either since this kind of opinions has become too boring.
But will instead give you one piece of advice:
Whoever bought theGNote is unlikely to go back to IPhone, that's why this kind of comparison are useless. Just an hour ago went to meet a client, he was with a group of friends first thing he does seeing me: Hey Jack is that Samsung of yours with you?
-sure
They compare it with their IPhones, they want to watch a movie,just yesterday downloaded Paul with HD quality,their eyes pop up!!
Is this also a phone? One of them asks, -yes.
They want to see the camera, they are impressed after seeing the Spen.
-how much you said you paid for it?.
And no I don't work for Samsung,you don't have to since people have eyes to see.They want F#####g CHOICES, not just one form factor, telling you either take it or take it. !!

hagba said:
I have not read your post either since this kind of opinions has become too boring.
But will instead give you one piece of advice:
Whoever bought theGNote is unlikely to go back to IPhone, that's why this kind of comparison are useless. Just an hour ago went to meet a client, he was with a group of friends first thing he does seeing me: Hey Jack is that Samsung of yours with you?
-sure
They compare it with their IPhones, they want to watch a movie,just yesterday downloaded Paul with HD quality,their eyes pop up!!
Is this also a phone? One of them asks, -yes.
They want to see the camera, they are impressed after seeing the Spen.
-how much you said you paid for it?.
And no I don't work for Samsung,you don't have to since people have eyes to see.They want F#####g CHOICES, not just one form factor, telling you either take it or take it. !!
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+1. I chose to buy my Note over an iPhone for such reasons. Though I'm ever more concerned of wowing myself than other people.
But I do have to agree to one point in the review: Android market needs a little more apps, more specifically - games! But I'm pretty sure it'll catch up in no time so no pressure. On the productivity side, what we have now is more than good enough.
App selection aside, the iPhone is just like an Android phone that doesn't let you change mostly anything. (which is also in the review ) It starts of great but stays there. Androids can potentially start crappy, but if you know what you're doing you can make it better like, ten to hundredfold.

This thread is troll bait if I ever saw it...Must not reply...must not reply...lol

hackerboi said:
1. 4S is can NOT be jailbroken, the devs are not even close to a solution.
2. Siri, is a gimmick and send all the voice data to apple for processing, this in turn increases your data usage.
3. The visible hardware is unchanged from iPhone4 and Androids have moved ages ahead.
4. iPhone4S has some Simcard issues. Loss of network is the result.
5. The iPhone UI is unchanged since the first 2G. Thats a lot of years of using the same UI. Most people didn't upgrade to 4S from 4 (including me) as the external form factor and the UI was the same. I just couldn't justify spending a bomb on a new fone that looks exactly the same and has the same interface.
6. Theme support? You can not put winterboard or dreamboard ,if you are not jailbroken.
7. iMessage although a nice concept has its own issues. It doesnt come close to Whatsapp or Blackberry Messenger.
The positive things about an iphone is the the resale value due to the novelty value is good and the Accessories that are available. Like the Indash DVD unit of my car syncs to ipod/iphone the Kicker music dock syncs to iphone/ipod etc.
Apple with iPhone 5 will really have to come up with something radical to catch up with the droids i believe.
Edit : How could i forget iPhone are marred by the fact that iTunes exists.
PS. I'm not a Droid fanboy, i used to be a apple fanboy.
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one major reason why I came back to android after getting the iphone 4s awful network faults, buggy its oh and locked down fymware never again will I own anything apple note rocks love it
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EarlZ said:
How it works under the hood is only for geeks, 99.99% of the users only care about the user experience and for him its easier on iOS. No need to complicate things.
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This.
Also, I do know the basics of how multi-tasking works on iOS vs Android, but not enough to make comments about it so I didn't. I based the multi-tasking comment on how the average non-techie person would interpret the phone. I get 6 apps in Android's "recent apps" list and I get as many as I want in iOS's multi-tasking 'tray'/'bar'. Also, I didn't make a comment about apps being frozen by iOS simply because of this question: Do I notice it? The answer is no. I rarely, if ever, notice that my apps are being frozen. And when I do, I don't care. On Android, I DO notice that I can't pull up more than six apps easily. I also notice that I can't play youtube and other videos in the background on the Note, which annoys me to no end. This will be fixed in ICS though, if I remember correctly.
As for the back button thing, yes it certainly is a pro for Android. On the downside, it doesn't always perform correctly. I anticipate this being solved in ICS though. Gingerbread, to me, feels full of 'beginner/basic mistakes' that will be probably solved in ICS. I didn't mention most of them because of that.
Also, I am aware that my comparison is very top heavy in terms of more stuff written about iPhone then the Note, but I just ran out of steam by the end of my article.
As for rooting/jailbreaking, I didn't include either as I don't have experience with either, and I also didn't include it as the average person does not know how to do that nor will end up doing it if given the option: either because they don't want to, don't have the time to, don't have the knowledge/techie-skills to, etc. I tried to base my article around what the average user might experience than the advanced stuff.
On a side note, I've noticed a lot of flamey/poorly-written comments. Oh well. I expected it, even though I don't root for one device or the other. Please take note of how I didn't say "The iPhone is better" or "The Note is better" but rather just listed features where one felt superior/inferior to the other. Basically a pro's/con's list. I did this because, objectively speaking, neither is better or worse than the other.
Also I didn't even mention Siri, but from some comments here some people think that I did - which is an obvious tipoff that a lot of people are commenting without reading. Anyways, perhaps I should have mentioned Siri, but I didn't. Why? I never really use it. Same with the voice functionality on the Note. If I did, however, have to choose one or the other, I would definitely choose Siri - just because of the way its setup and the things I can do with it. Whenever I have used siri it is when I have the phone in my pocket and don't feel like answering a text or otherwise pulling the phone out, so I long-press on the button on my headphones and just tell Siri what I want. She gets it right most of the time.
I also didn't mention that the iPhone has a superior physical design. The metal and glass design looks amazing. I didn't mention it, however, because I always have it in a case, so I hardly see it. It also makes it very heavy. The Note feels kind of cheap if I had to comment about it, at least in comparison to the iPhone, but its part of the reason why its light so its forgivable, and I never really notice the quality difference between the 4S and the Note.
Also, BIG DIFFERENCE between the Note and the 4S that I didn't think to write: the 4S is very scratch resistant and the screen just feels more durable. My Note's screen gets scratched very easily and the glass on it feels much less durable.
Another difference is that the volume rocker and the power button on the Note are right where I always want to grab it to pull it out of my pocket or a case or whatever. I often always pretty the power button by accident while holding the phone. It's very annoying. However, I realize that they did it that way because the top of the phone is too far to reach with the hand that is holding the phone. If I was given the choice, though, I wouldn't change the power button and volume rocker configuration - but it is annoying. Also, I usually don't have that problem with the iPhone and if I do it is just the volume buttons I end up pressing.
Also, another interesting social aspect of the Note vs iPhone: When I got my iPhone, my friends with Android phones flamed me to no end (and still flame me to this day). However, when I got the Note, my friends with iPhones didn't make a single negative comment and complimented me on it. This may be unique to my situation but it's just another difference I noticed.
What's also interesting is that the S-Pen on my Note is much more sensitive and better to use than the one on my parents Note. Both were stock and running the same firmware, and came from the same source and carrier (and probably batch).

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As for the back button thing, yes it certainly is a pro for Android. On the downside, it doesn't always perform correctly..
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Used SGS, SGS II, now using SGN - never faced any problem.
Two things I liked about the white iPhone 4 and the Black iPhone 4S I had was they had very good resell value and a really pretty girl wanted to see my white iPhone and we had coffee together.

Techradar: S2 is one of the best Phones for Music

Techradar has announced that the s2 is the one the best phones for music in 2012 so far wich is suprising considering a lot of people were complaining about the audio quality.The other 6 are iPhone 4s,no surprise there,HTC sensation XL wich is kinda stange,audio quality is crisp but no expandable memory,Nokia Lumina 800,Nokia are getting there,Motorola Razr,the new one not the old flip one,Sony Ericsson Mix Walkman,shame about the rest of the phone and a Crapberry curve 9360,sorry Blackberry,nothing exiting what so ever about it,so there you are,whats everyone reckon to this then.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/best-mobile-phones-for-music-2012-1051914

What are they smoking?
Even the 4s doesnt sound as good as the iPhone 4 imo as I've personally heard it.
Maybe in terms of features in Music, but not in terms of sound quality.
As for the best sounding phone in the market, it still has to go to the Galaxy S with Voodoo Sound.
And no, do not give me that Beats crap, I'm thankful that Monster and Beats are parting ways

Parting ways with Monster could only be a step upwards for Beats.

After close scrutiny of the article and further tests on my device, I can but conclude....
Bollocks.

My now sold iPhone 4 sounded better than my SGS2 in my ears. I don't know about the 4S yet though.

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My now sold iPhone 4 sounded better than my SGS2 in my ears. I don't know about the 4S yet though.
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Tried all 3, SGS2 3rd. By a long way.
SGS with voodoo - win.

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After close scrutiny of the article and further tests on my device, I can but conclude....
Bollocks.
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You stole my opinion damn it!

Waaaaaa?
$1 gets you a reply

I have never seen a techradar article that didn't some some bollocks or bloody tosh in it.
They always seem to be totally wrong on random points, which makes them wonder if they even bother to fact check, for gods sake they say the HTC Sensation XL has a dual core CPU, where as its the same old Qualcomm MSM8255 **** as the HTC Desire HD.
Now the SGS2 sounds fine to me, but my ears are clinically bad (hearing aid bad) so I'm a poor judge of sound quality.

Lol at this article. My wife's i4S kicks the crap out of the SGS2 no matter what headset I use. Whatever techradar is smoking I definitely need some.

How did you guys noticed the sound quality difference between phones?
I thought the headphones that matters the most.. Like beats headphones that offers better thump..
Personally I don't really bother if this phone had a bad quality sounds.. It's still diamond for my ears
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Gorjess said:
How did you guys noticed the sound quality difference between phones?
I thought the headphones that matters the most.. Like beats headphones that offers better thump..
Personally I don't really bother if this phone had a bad quality sounds.. It's still diamond for my ears
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Things I listen out for are distortion, clipping, soundstage... everything really. But it all comes down to personal taste. Headphones matter, definitely. But I'd suggest the most important thing is the music file quality. Crap in = Crap out. Some torrent that was ripped from a CD via WMP at a low bitrate will always sound awful, no matter what you play it on.
Compared to a top-class dedicated PMP - mine's a Cowon S9 - the SQ is "bad". Inferior may be a better description. The same goes for all phones I've tried, the SGS with Voodoo sound is the exception - that's pretty close to my S9 soundwise.
I don't find the SGS2's SQ to be unbearable at all, but it could be better. For "casual" listening it's perfectly OK, especially with good phones. But for me it's definitely a loooooong way behind the last 2 iphones, the SGS with or without Voodoo and a couple of my wife's old Nokias.
It's all subjective though - can't stand the Beats myself but each to their own. You seem happy with your setup and that's the only thing that really matters.

"Techradar: S2 is one of the best Phones for Music"?
My a$$.
I'd rather take Jelly Bean released today for GSII.

Very simple. They were using an S1 with voodoo and thought it was an S2.
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lmao Galaxy S II going to be one of the best for music/sound quality?....
Even my 3yr old ipod is better for music...
And like everyone else on here who had a Galaxy S lasy year. Voodoo pwnd everything out there

AW: Techradar: S2 is one of the best Phones for Music
After I switched my good old Nokia X6 with my current SGS2, the first thing I noticed soundwise was that it could just not compare.
It's okay with headphones, but please don't try the speaker. It's just crap, and placed exactly where my middle finger goes while playing games in landscape mode, blocking the speaker. it's fitting though, just the right finger...
Sound quality and placement of the speaker is really bad!
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I'm going to stick my head on the line here, and say that I don't personally think the SGS2 sounds all that bad. And to be fair, I would say I have at least some idea what sounds good as I was / am an audio enthusiast, I hate listening to music that has poor sound quality.
Having said that, the iphone 4 I had before definitely blows it into the weeds, but then I suppose it should, given that its an ipod touch that happens to have a phone built into it
But I would say that the SGS2 still sounds better than any HTC phone I've heard (although I've not heard the Sensation) - but it was definitely better than my old Incredible S, better than the Desire, and better than the Nexus One.
And I don't think there was a big difference between the original Galaxy S and the S2 either, although I never heard it with Voodoo, no doubt it is a lot better but I can't comment.
It is a shame that Samsung decided to use inferior components in the S2 though.
Also, another thing that rarely gets mentioned is out of the box, the built in music player doesn't support gapless MP3, which I find incredibly annoying. I know the likes of PowerAmp does, but in 2012 we really should be getting things like this sorted. The thing is with PowerAmp, is that it doesn't quite sound as good to my ears as the stock player (no idea why this should be though), and the battery drain is higher. Does anyone know if ICS fixes this?
Lets hope that Samsung rectifies these issues for the S3.

Gorjess said:
How did you guys noticed the sound quality difference between phones?
I thought the headphones that matters the most.. Like beats headphones that offers better thump..
Personally I don't really bother if this phone had a bad quality sounds.. It's still diamond for my ears
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Beats headphones? are you serious. Beats are not any good for serious listening, they can be good for SOME music but in general they do not deserve their price tag.
Headphones are only as good as their source, you can have a $1000 headphone but if you listen to it with a Galaxy S 2 its only as good as $100 one
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Having said that, the iphone 4 I had before definitely blows it into the weeds, but then I suppose it should, given that its an ipod touch that happens to have a phone built into it
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I would have to dispute this. All of the iPod touches before the 4th gen and iPhone 4 generally sounded mediocre-horrible.

Based on my experiences with various phones and my love for music, I would rank the phones in this order:
1 - iPhone 4/iPhone 4s - No modding needed and sound kicks ass!
2 - Galaxy S/Nexus S + Voodoo - Top sound and loads of tuning options
3 - Sensation XE - Beats audio makes a difference
5 - Galaxy S2 + Voodoo Louder + DSP - Much better than stock.
That's my 2 cents.... Ps Don't kill me for putting the iPhone at the top.... IMHO the audio kicks ass

My phone with Power Amp and Equalizer sounds absolutely fine ive never used the stock player on it's own so cant comment it's Power Amp all the way for me with Equalizer the sound is absolutely fine crisp and clear with good bass.

Samsung Galaxy S III VS iPhone 4S - Phone Arena

Check this iPhone 4S vs SGS3
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-vs-Apple-iPhone-4S_id3038
Pretty nice

SGS3 smokes the iPhone.
But I found it almost painful to watch, how this apple fanboy tries to find a positive aspect for his love.
It was nice to see how he destroyed the myth of easier use, when he showed the music player, or how you get movies on your device (pocket cinema)

Why not compare it with next iWhatever to be fare ?
We are basically comparing everything with iPhone4s and that itself says all ..
Strictly not apple or android fanboy as both have its own set of advantages and disadvantages
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"There shouldn't be any doubt that the iPhone 4S is the better-designed handset." I agree with that, although I know I should keep my mouth shut until I have actually held the SGS3 in my hands. But I do feel that the iPhone sports a well thought-out design, and it does feel premium, although it's kinda heavy for being a 3.5" device, no?
"Apart from its multimedia superiority, the Galaxy S III is also the better phone if you love tinkering with the software of your mobile device." Exactly. I have enjoyed my time with the iPhone, I really have, but it's getting boring now. I've had it for a year and now I want to tinker. I want to mod. I want to change icons and I want to flash kernels. I want to try out experimental ROMs that cause bootloops. I want that kind of fun back! I love the way you can truly personalize an Android device. I miss that and I want that back.
Winterboard, you say? Oh yay, I can choose from 2,000 ugly themes to apply, and they'll all make my phone slower and less responsive? GTFO...
Really though, what's so wrong with Ray S? I think the last two paragraphs in this review really say it all and I agree with what he writes 100%
The iPhone doesn't suck! It's a really good phone if you want that simplicity! Ray doesn't suck either! He awards points to BOTH phones and I think he did a good job with this.

The review was a total joke, since he deliberately didn't mention many advantages of the GS3.
Design - 'iPhone has more premium feel', but of course he didn't say how much more durable plastic is and how fragile iPhone is.
Keyboards - of course he didn't mention that Galaxy phones come with Swype, or that you can install a number of 3rd party keyboards compared to no choice on iOS.
I could go on but it was not a very fair review at all.

S2 and the Note beat IPhone 4s. S3 is way too better.
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That's the point. He's comparing it to a, frankly, outdated phone and still spinning it to prop them both up equally.
The 4S, after all, was really an incremental update from the year before; I don't think a comparison even deserves to be made (the only reason it even comes up is because the 4S is Apple, oh my).
Unfortunately, it's just not feasible to compare it to the next iPhone, for obvious reasons.

Android phones have set certain standards in the last year, that a new iphone has to match or they won't have a chance IMHo. Really interested to see what they do about the screen size and how they will handle he resolution dilemma.

The iPhone is beginning to look and feel really old by now.

Phone Arena has a bias toward iPhone, as seen in their S3 review, we have gone over this in the previous thread. I think to compare an iPhone to Android by itself is a stupid concept. I mean if you were to give me an iPhone 4S right now, what would I do with it? I can do more thing and have more fun with a used $120 Galaxy S variant, no exaggeration.

Kiahnlliya said:
"There shouldn't be any doubt that the iPhone 4S is the better-designed handset." I agree with that, although I know I should keep my mouth shut until I have actually held the SGS3 in my hands. But I do feel that the iPhone sports a well thought-out design, and it does feel premium, although it's kinda heavy for being a 3.5" device, no?
"Apart from its multimedia superiority, the Galaxy S III is also the better phone if you love tinkering with the software of your mobile device." Exactly. I have enjoyed my time with the iPhone, I really have, but it's getting boring now. I've had it for a year and now I want to tinker. I want to mod. I want to change icons and I want to flash kernels. I want to try out experimental ROMs that cause bootloops. I want that kind of fun back! I love the way you can truly personalize an Android device. I miss that and I want that back.
Winterboard, you say? Oh yay, I can choose from 2,000 ugly themes to apply, and they'll all make my phone slower and less responsive? GTFO...
Really though, what's so wrong with Ray S? I think the last two paragraphs in this review really say it all and I agree with what he writes 100%
The iPhone doesn't suck! It's a really good phone if you want that simplicity! Ray doesn't suck either! He awards points to BOTH phones and I think he did a good job with this.
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I honestly don't get why people seem to be giving Ray S such a hard time... I actually like his reviews, both in written form and his videos as well... Maybe I just don't get it though!
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Issue i have with his every review is more of an opinion piece instead of an objective review. He has tendencies to amplify negatives that can be seen as positive things on non-apple devices.
also the conclusion that everyone who fits the criteria below to get an iphone? If he said things like ecosystem, itunes, etc then yeah i can see it but generalized conclusion that fits both device doesn't.
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Apparently, those guys would be the kind of users who don't really pay so much attention to their smartphone, but still want something that's contemporary and reliable. Are your needs limited to the basic phone stuff, surfing the web, occasional social network check and maybe even playing a game every now and then, but you have no intention of spending hours of rooting, flashing ROMs and searching for the ultimate widget set? Well, you guessed it you'll be better off with the iPhone 4S, as it's designed just for you, buddy.
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My response from the other thread

Samsung Galaxy S2 is better than iPhone 4S. But my favourite feature on iPhone 4S is Siri. But I still like the iPhone, after comparing them also.

Amazing headphones

So had the s3 for a few days now but only tried the headphones a few hours ago and I gotta say I'm amazed at the quality. It has very nice bass, which I've never had in regular headphones before. I've always had the cheap 5-10 dollar headphones and I never knew how good they could be. And these come with the phone!
I was playing league of legends with them and sound effects sounded amazing. I'm guessing that's why people buy dre beats? Except this isn't overpriced, paying for the brand, headphones.

Yup, easily the best in box pair I've used...ever I think.
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I actually thought they sound worse than the ones that came with my original galaxy s, and a LOT worse than the high end UE's I normally use. They're still decent for a bundled accessory, but they're nothing to call home about. Just my two cents.

I don't like them at all

Ones that came with my Captivate were really good and used them up until a month ago when they walked off from my desk. Now I've got some Klipsch s4a buds and am highly impressed. Picked them up for $60 from Sonic Electronix, which was about $30 less than everywhere else.
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If you want some really good headphones on the cheap, you can't beat these for the price:
http://www.amazon.com/MEElectronics...&qid=1340712998&sr=1-9&keywords=meelectronics
And this is coming from someone who also has these:
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AHD2000...F8&qid=1340713391&sr=1-1&keywords=denon+d2000

I know these are going to be a bit pricey, but trust me its worth it. (ive tried other ones in the same price range , these are the best that deliver in every category)
Delivers bass (but not to the point where it drowns out the music), delivers sound quality and clarity like you havent heard before (but you can hear every other element in the back and still have bass)
it hurts to listen to music with anything else
Ive owned the previous version of these (530), and since 2008 ive only been pleased.
Currently i have the 535 (latest version)
http://www.shure.com/americas/produ...nes/se-models/se535-sound-isolating-earphones
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/25/shure-se535-review/
http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/shure-se535-metallic-bronze/4505-7877_7-34168053.html
enjoy
i need to try them out on the s3

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I know these are going to be a bit pricey, but trust me its worth it. (ive tried other ones in the same price range , these are the best that deliver in every category)
Delivers bass (but not to the point where it drowns out the music), delivers sound quality and clarity like you havent heard before (but you can hear every other element in the back and still have bass)
it hurts to listen to music with anything else
Ive owned the previous version of these (530), and since 2008 ive only been pleased.
Currently i have the 535 (latest version)
http://www.shure.com/americas/produ...nes/se-models/se535-sound-isolating-earphones
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/25/shure-se535-review/
http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/shure-se535-metallic-bronze/4505-7877_7-34168053.html
enjoy
i need to try them out on the s3
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those are ridiculously priced! 449.00 off of amazon geez

bkeaver said:
those are ridiculously priced! 449.00 off of amazon geez
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i knowwww, but ive tried using even the 100 dollar bose ones, and the 100 dollar shure ones.
regardless none deliver like this one.
the way i looked at it was : im always listening to music, always at my desk, always using headphones. Why not get something that will MAKE me want to actually sit and do work and enjoy it. And plus whats the point of paying 50 dollars every couple of months cuz the headphones broke? These have a warranty and every year i send them back and get new ones and that warranty gets extended.
its worth it.

junglizste said:
If you want some really good headphones on the cheap, you can't beat these for the price:
http://www.amazon.com/MEElectronics...&qid=1340712998&sr=1-9&keywords=meelectronics
And this is coming from someone who also has these:
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AHD2000...F8&qid=1340713391&sr=1-1&keywords=denon+d2000
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Are you a meelectronics user yourself? Nice! I am too, but I have the M6P's with the built in phone controls. I have yet to find a pair of IEM's that cost twice as much as these that can compare, certainly nothing at this price point or below.
http://www.amazon.com/MEElectronics...hones-Smartphones/dp/B003VTZPO8/ref=pd_cp_e_0
And the eartips can be swapped out for the "marshmallow" type, Comply T-400's, commonly found on JVC Marshmallow IEM's.

doctorTJ said:
I know these are going to be a bit pricey, but trust me its worth it. (ive tried other ones in the same price range , these are the best that deliver in every category)
Delivers bass (but not to the point where it drowns out the music), delivers sound quality and clarity like you havent heard before (but you can hear every other element in the back and still have bass)
it hurts to listen to music with anything else
Ive owned the previous version of these (530), and since 2008 ive only been pleased.
Currently i have the 535 (latest version)
http://www.shure.com/americas/produ...nes/se-models/se535-sound-isolating-earphones
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/25/shure-se535-review/
http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/shure-se535-metallic-bronze/4505-7877_7-34168053.html
enjoy
i need to try them out on the s3
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If we're going to toss in some high end IEM's, I'll throw mine in the circle as well.
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-IE80-Headphone/dp/B006EK9J9S/ref=pd_cp_e_1
If you like hip-hop, trance, or anything that needs a good quantity of solid bass. These are it.
If you like really wide soundstages. This is also it.
It has a screw on each monitor you can turn for more or less bass as well.
As the Head-fi saying goes, sorry for your wallet if you decide to get either, but your ears won't be sorry.

LOL, this is gonna sound dumb but, I bought some ear buds from Big Lots the other day for 5 dollars. They were impressive. As long as I don't try on a good pair to compare, I'll be good.
That said, the GS3 comes with a pair right?

Maverick777 said:
If we're going to toss in some high end IEM's, I'll throw mine in the circle as well.
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-IE80-Headphone/dp/B006EK9J9S/ref=pd_cp_e_1
If you like hip-hop, trance, or anything that needs a good quantity of solid bass. These are it.
If you like really wide soundstages. This is also it.
It has a screw on each monitor you can turn for more or less bass as well.
As the Head-fi saying goes, sorry for your wallet if you decide to get either, but your ears won't be sorry.
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perfect way to say it (headfi)
i had these , and as you said, for bass intense it will be these, i ultimately still ended up keeping my shures, felt they were a little clearer
but u cant go wrong either way. :good:

I can't wear in-ear phones for more than half hour.
How can you guys do that?
I use Audeo PFE.

My go-to earbuds for a couple of years now have been the Razer M100, now called the Moray:
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-In-Ear-...hones--Black/dp/B001HN6PBM/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8
They show up on Woot every once in a while for $15 a pair and I get 3 and give a pair or two to friends and family. I've tried a lot of earbuds over the years, and even at $30-40, these are about the best-sounding ones I've found. They isolate outside noise well, have really good bass response, clear sound overall, and the small size makes them easy to wear without them getting knocked loose.
Definitely worth checking out if you're shopping in that price range.

nabbed said:
I can't wear in-ear phones for more than half hour.
How can you guys do that?
I use Audeo PFE.
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Its all about the eartips! Comply T-400's FTW!
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Its all about the eartips! Comply T-400's FTW!
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+1 for Comply. Have them on my Super-fi 5 Pro's. Very comfortable but you have to change them out every now and then when they get too dirty.
On my IE8 I'm using Sony Hybrid Tips.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-EPEX10A-BLK-Replacement-Earbuds/dp/B001RB24UA
They are very comfortable.

incubus26jc said:
LOL, this is gonna sound dumb but, I bought some ear buds from Big Lots the other day for 5 dollars. They were impressive. As long as I don't try on a good pair to compare, I'll be good.
That said, the GS3 comes with a pair right?
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yes, they some with some and from what I have experienced, they aren't too bad. i mean if you are just using them to work out or study like me then they are good. Also, i just got these below and i love them and they're not too expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/MEElectronics...hones-Smartphones/dp/B003VTZPO8/ref=pd_cp_e_0

ge3kswag said:
Also, i just got these below and i love them and they're not too expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/MEElectronics...hones-Smartphones/dp/B003VTZPO8/ref=pd_cp_e_0
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Yeah, those are nice. I love mine
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At my desk, I'm still using an old pair of Sennheiser HD590's open-ears through a Fiio headphone amp. For non-amped in-ears I've switched from my broken Shure's (which sounded amazing) to the still-highly rated Klipsch IMAGE S4's.
The Klipsch's sound really good, but they do have just a tad too much bass, but at least they're no where near the huge amount of bass that BeatsByDre gimmicky crap imposes.