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3g Speed Issue

Well 3g has always been slow about my area but T-Mobile just opened up HSPA+ in my town but I still get crappy speeds. I just ran a test right now with the speedtest.net app and the results are 0.23mbps d/l - 0.34mbps u/l with full bars of 3g. I think the best I have every seen was 0.96mbps d/l - 1.03 u/l.
I'm running CM6.1 nightly and was running froyo radio but changed to the new Korea radio to see if it helped but nothing. A while back while driving through Philly I hit 5.08mbps d/l - 2.88mbps u/l on the HSPA+ network.
I have played around with the build.prop and just can't find a setting for the speeds I "think" I should be getting. Does anyone have any suggestions? I was thinking about going back to OTA Froyo from Google to see if that helps.

It seems to me it depends on where I am at, at home I get decent speeds, at my dads which is like 5 miles away I barely get edge, St work speeds are ok, and my friends house I have crazy awesome speed...T-Mobile signal strength is some what lacking depending on your location...inside of a building I could get edge, but if I go outside I get full 3g...
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It seems to me it depends on where I am at, at home I get decent speeds, at my dads which is like 5 miles away I barely get edge, St work speeds are ok, and my friends house I have crazy awesome speed...T-Mobile signal strength is some what lacking depending on your location...inside of a building I could get edge, but if I go outside I get full 3g...
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Well I contacted T-Mobile an apparently I am on the "Smart Phone Data Plan" and should be on the "Android Data Plan". I didn't know there was a difference but they said there was and to give it 3 hours and it should help with the speeds. I personally doubt it since people are getting great speeds from Web2Go and t-zone plans.
They also suggested I upgrade (for free) my sim card to a 3G(UICC) SIM card. So I guess I am heading to T-Mobile after work to upgrade.
Again I doubt any of this will fix my issues as I have hit 5.08mbps in Philly with this sim card and data plan.

It's their network I go through the same thing where I live
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Ok well the results after 3 hours of waiting.. I just did a speed test and got... 0.09mbps d/l and 0.47mbps u/l average after 4 tests. I'm pretty sure I get better speeds on EDGE. Needless to say I am heading up to T-Mobile after work to have a talk with them. This is crazy. Why pay for a data plan if it's going to be this slow.

Wow look at these blazing speeds..

Maybe this will help
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Well 3g has always been slow about my area but T-Mobile just opened up HSPA+ in my town but I still get crappy speeds. I just ran a test right now with the speedtest.net app and the results are 0.23mbps d/l - 0.34mbps u/l with full bars of 3g. I think the best I have every seen was 0.96mbps d/l - 1.03 u/l.
I'm running CM6.1 nightly and was running froyo radio but changed to the new Korea radio to see if it helped but nothing. A while back while driving through Philly I hit 5.08mbps d/l - 2.88mbps u/l on the HSPA+ network.
I have played around with the build.prop and just can't find a setting for the speeds I "think" I should be getting. Does anyone have any suggestions? I was thinking about going back to OTA Froyo from Google to see if that helps.
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I was having speed issues also, so I edited my build.prop and now my speed is blazing fast. I'm a happy camper. I'm using evil's NXsense 1.26, before that cyanogenmod 6.1 RC1, I was having serious market issues, I couldn't install or uninstall apps with cyanogen. I edited the build.prop and things improved but not much, I would have to keep canceling download, and then reboot to install. I edited build.prop on evil's NXsense, and did a couple of speed test, I didn't have to because I noticed improvement right away. I just wanted to see some numbers, so I took three, one indoors, outdoors and with wi-fi. It doesn't matter if I can get 4G speed I'm happy with what I got, I have copies if my edited build.prop, I'm not sure if I can post it without the devs consent, a respect thing, you know. It's like a real gray area, but if you want to try and see if it helps, PM me

Well with the new sim card and new rom IM getting 2.48mbps down now. Not sure why cm6.1 was so slow but it was.
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running CM6 nightly 247 I too had those negative download speeds and 32 meg uploads

Heh i'm damn happy my network is always blazing fast even indoors (see my signature)
I modified the build.prop though to have ro.ril.hsxpa=2 and ro.ril.gprsclass=12
Running radio 5.12

Beautiful thing being rooted!!!!
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Well with the new sim card and new rom IM getting 2.48mbps down now. Not sure why cm6.1 was so slow but it was.
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That's decent speed, I'm sure your good with that.

[Q] mytouch 4g on simple mobile?

has anybody tried it? because i was thinking about doing it? hows the quality?

is the same thing thats what i use is like t mobile

If I remember correctly, they use essentially the same operating bands as T-Mobile (1700/2100 AWS), so your phone should be compatible with they SIM cards. In fact, they may even be using the same towers as T-Mobile.
However, might not be able to get HSPA+ speeds, but not sure since I haven't used them before.

Actually, it does get hspa. I am using the hd2 with the 2.2 froyo and it runs on close to 4g speeds and yes you can also use tethering and hotspot. great service!

mustangmartinez9 said:
Actually, it does get hspa. I am using the hd2 with the 2.2 froyo and it runs on close to 4g speeds and yes you can also use tethering and hotspot. great service!
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Did you need to unlock the HD2 to work on Simple Mobile or did it just work. I have a HD2 with 2.2 but it is on T-mobile but I am thinking about switching to Simple Mobile.
Any help is greatly appreciated

My wife was recently deployed so we cancelled the mytouch 4g on tmo and they waved the $200 cancel. fee.
I have been reading on xda that several people use simple mobile with tmo phones, and their webpage says this phone is SUPPORTED. I called a local dealer today and was told that I did not have to UNLOCK the phone because its running on tmo when its on simple mobile.
He said people are NOT throttled unless they are tethering or downloading torrents/movies.
Do any of you use simple mobile? Specifically, do you use a mytouch 4g on simple mobile and would you recommend it. My understanding its rebranded tmo service.
I loved the mytouch 4g, but couldnt stomach the $83 a month. My current phone is a optimus v (sprint aka virgin for $60 a month unlimited everything) but why would I want to use this phone (which I can return as Ive had it less than 10 days, I have 30 days to return) when I have a 10x better phone my mytouch 4g...
Suggestions... comments? Complaints about simple mobile? Thanks!

Just a google search indicates that the throttling cap is being seen at the 2GB mark with Simply Wireless and that they throttle people who they find tethering or downloading torrents or movies.
On the phone, the only thing that shows up is H for 3G and 4G. It does differentiate it if you are rooted with CM7

So my phone doesn't have to be unlocked? Everytime i flash a new rom do i just set the Apn?
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These sim card kits are $35 here in Hawaii ! At $2 with shipping I'll buy from this guy! He's ultra nice on phone! http://bit.ly/hhqvvw

mustangmartinez9 said:
Actually, it does get hspa. I am using the hd2 with the 2.2 froyo and it runs on close to 4g speeds and yes you can also use tethering and hotspot. great service!
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AFAIK you will get hsxpa but not hsxpa+
Hsxpa is faster than the 3g that most us carriers served up for years. Now its technically a moot point since hsxpa+ isnt 4g either and their all just enhancements on the 3g standard.
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Confirm SNS works on Simple Mobile

I just want to make sure before I buy this phone that it will work on Simple Mobile at 3G speeds at the very least... HSPA+ maybe in the future?
I dont want to get it if it wont work since I dont want to be on slow EDGE for ATT and dont want to pay a premium if I am going to use TMOBILE service anyways.
Thanks.

tosh1 said:
I just want to make sure before I buy this phone that it will work on Simple Mobile at 3G speeds at the very least... HSPA+ maybe in the future?
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Simple Mobile is intriguingly priced.
The Nexus One will never work on the HSPA+ network any faster than the regular HSPA network; the hardware isn't HSPA+ compatible.

tosh1 said:
I just want to make sure before I buy this phone that it will work on Simple Mobile at 3G speeds at the very least... HSPA+ maybe in the future?
I dont want to get it if it wont work since I dont want to be on slow EDGE for ATT and dont want to pay a premium if I am going to use TMOBILE service anyways.
Thanks.
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if your phone providers works on 900/1700/2100 then it will work for you, else no

Simple Mobile is a T-Mobile reseller so yes it will work.

Since it is a Tmobile phone it seems like 3G should be good.. how about HSPA+???
I know the Mytouch4G is good and the G2 but nowhere does it say on the NExus S it is HSPA+.... anyone know if that will work at the SUPER FASTER SPEEDS?

tosh1 said:
Since it is a Tmobile phone it seems like 3G should be good.. how about HSPA+???
I know the Mytouch4G is good and the G2 but nowhere does it say on the NExus S it is HSPA+.... anyone know if that will work at the SUPER FASTER SPEEDS?
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the NS is NOT a HSPA+ device..but really guys do you need faster than 7.2?
and *pats self on back for 1,000th post*

slowz3r said:
the NS is NOT a HSPA+ device..but really guys do you need faster than 7.2?
and *pats self on back for 1,000th post*
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Man u should have waited for your 1000th post for something better.... thanks anyways and congrats...
I wasn't even aware that the standard 3G can go that fast... thats plenty fast... I thought the 7.2 is HSPA+ speed....
Now Im really excited if I can even get 4+...
thanks.

tosh1 said:
Man u should have waited for your 1000th post for something better.... thanks anyways and congrats...
I wasn't even aware that the standard 3G can go that fast... thats plenty fast... I thought the 7.2 is HSPA+ speed....
Now Im really excited if I can even get 4+...
thanks.
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HSPA maxes out at 7.2mbs, HSPA+ at ~22mbs but the MT4G/G2 max at ~14.4mbs if i recall correctly.
On average, I see around 2.5mbs to 3.8mbs on my Nexus which was about the same as I was seeing on my MT4G oddly enough. The G2 was getting 4-8mbs

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HSPA maxes out at 7.2mbs, HSPA+ at ~22mbs but the MT4G/G2 max at ~14.4mbs if i recall correctly.
On average, I see around 2.5mbs to 3.8mbs on my Nexus which was about the same as I was seeing on my MT4G oddly enough. The G2 was getting 4-8mbs
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I seem to get faster speeds on my NS than i did on my N1

Your going to have a ballin' phone and run bootleg service? Makes no sense to me. If price is a issue why by a 529$ phone?
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I seem to get faster speeds on my NS than i did on my N1
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Yep, same here. My Nexus One barely pulled >1mbs. Everyone hails that phone as the greatest thing since sliced bread, and don't get me wrong it was pretty damn great, but it had several flaws too such as the poor 3G reception I'm citing here.

Simple mobile gets t-mobile speed. I am proof that this work. Everything works except 4g since nexus s doesn't have that but I get amazing 3g speed.
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the NS is NOT a HSPA+ device..but really guys do you need faster than 7.2?
and *pats self on back for 1,000th post*
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I would be happy with a consistent 3.0mb. within a span of 3 miles I can go from 5mb to less than 1mb and lots of areas still are edge

last time i did a speed test maxed out at 2.8 Mbps down on Wind Mobile
and it was even less on Rogers / Fido, so i'm very happy

So finally pulled the trigger... TRUE 3g speed on this phone. I couldn't be any happier.
Only problem is T-Mobile network isn't the largest so I have a lot of edge network areas. When 3g is running its pretty darn quick though.
All for 60 unlimited....
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tosh1 said:
So finally pulled the trigger... TRUE 3g speed on this phone. I couldn't be any happier.
Only problem is T-Mobile network isn't the largest so I have a lot of edge network areas. When 3g is running its pretty darn quick though.
All for 60 unlimited....
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Thats awesome. I have been contemplating getting SIMple Mobile for use on my MT4G or G2, but, I have been thinking about getting a NS to use on SM.
Do any of the Visual Voicemail apps work on this (or any T-Mo phone) using SIMple Mobile? It is my understanding that any FlexPay or Pre-Paid providers cannot offer any type of Visual Voicemail services. I know, Google Voice would work ok, but I'm not happy with their UI, and other aspects of GV.
If any Visual Voicemail apps would work with SIMple Mobile, flawlessly, then I'm sold on both SM & NS.
Any help would be most appreciated.

Just figured I would give you guys thinking of moving to Simple a heads up. Their "unlimited" data is capped at 1GB. There have been reports of them shutting down your service once you reach this and charging you for prepaid data to continue use. Do your research before you jump especially if you like to tether or do a lot of streaming.

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Just figured I would give you guys thinking of moving to Simple a heads up. Their "unlimited" data is capped at 1GB. There have been reports of them shutting down your service once you reach this and charging you for prepaid data to continue use. Do your research before you jump especially if you like to tether or do a lot of streaming.
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I've read the same thing on HowardForums. Since it's prepaid, you can pay for the service but they can disconnect the data anytime they want during that month.

I'm paying $55.99 a month on a non-contract basis right now, gives me 500 minutes and unlimited data. For SMS I simply use Google Voice which is free. I use it as my primary number instead of the T-Mobile one. I don't know my T-Mobile number even.
So for $60 a month, seems like Simple Mobile is more expensive and its very likely that Simple Mobile's contract for data is rather expensive hence why they cap at 1gb of data. I wouldn't expect you to ever be allowed to go past that given that MVNO's make much less profit overall.
I considered it, but quickly abandoned the plan. If it was actually cheaper (for me) I'd be willing to try it.

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So for $60 a month, seems like Simple Mobile is more expensive and its very likely that Simple Mobile's contract for data is rather expensive hence why they cap at 1gb of data. I wouldn't expect you to ever be allowed to go past that given that MVNO's make much less profit overall.
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Woah 1GB data cap? Seems like a plan that would be good for parents, grandparents, or busy businesspeople who don't have the time/desire to do anything but light data use.
Glad you mentioned this, I was actually thinking of trying out the service.

Att 2.2 3g speeds horable

Seems the 3g speeds are horable just like the inspire i just got. On 318 with the H icon speeds were alot better, infact i got faster upload on 3g than i did on uverse wifi.
Anyone else notice? Anything we can look into to fix this problem?

Dunno, I just fired off 2.53/1.17Mbit on ATT 3g. I've seen it faster (3+Mbit).

Yeah I'm getting great speeds too (on 318), and it has been tested that ATT is faster.
I'm not sure about the update, but ATT must be doing something not to good on their 2.2 update. (something they do to all of their updates?)

What are you guys using to test your speeds?

I've noticed in my neck of the woods, the speed varies depending on the tower.
Right now, at home, I'm getting 2-3 down and 1-2 up, but a couple towers in town I can barely squeak out 23k

Those of you getting over 300Kbps are all probably running build 318,319,322, or streakdroid which are all non at&t approved versions and basebands so at&t doesn't restrict them like it does with every other android phone that is locked to its network. Look at the inspire 4g speed issyes the matrix 4g speed issues they are all the same. That's why you don't use an at&t build on android cause they &@%$ it up.
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Those of you getting over 300Kbps are all probably running build 318,319,322, or streakdroid which are all non at&t approved versions and basebands so at&t doesn't restrict them like it does with every other android phone that is locked to its network. Look at the inspire 4g speed issyes the matrix 4g speed issues they are all the same. That's why you don't use an at&t build on android cause they &@%$ it up.
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your information is not entirely true, because when I was with t-mobile, I owned a nexus one which was also not locked into their network and I was seeing amazing speeds. So what are you talking about?

T-mobile's not allowed to customize the nexus phone. That's the entire point of them since they're entirely google stock.
And at&t does neuter baseband: the htc inspire 4g (basically a htc desire for at&t) cant do HSPUA because the network connection is restricted at either the cell tower or software level, but it's radio is capable of HSPUA.
But that's true for the the inspire, I don't know if they've neutered the streak. They can but don't know if they did. If it bothers you, you could try changing your baseband back to 318 while staying on 340. I don't know if this will work since noone's tried (streakdroid doesnt count since it works differently.)

This makes sense. My speeds have been massively worse with stock AT&T 2.2. I should note that it is NOT a reception issue. I live in NYC and get full bars almost everywhere I go.

I wanna know what you guys are using to test your speeds.

RussianSolja said:
I wanna know what you guys are using to test your speeds.
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Speed test. Its in the market
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I am on Steve's froyo and I get amazing speeds. Normally I get over 3meg dl and 1.5dl. At times I can hit over 5meg dl.
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Yup. No doubt Steve's is MUUUCH faster for AT&T Data.

Well thank you. Had this been a topic for that rom, we might be able to discuss that further. But this happens to be about the official att 2.2 ota update.

You are welcome. My post was in DIRECT response to the topic.

Im going back to 318 WITHOUT the perfmod. Perfmod makes the battery SUCK. I really cant stand that the 3g speeds are this bad, and cant understand why the new htc inspire 4g speeds are right on par with it. Att is doing this **** and i am so unhappy with this situation

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T-mobile's not allowed to customize the nexus phone. That's the entire point of them since they're entirely google stock.
And at&t does neuter baseband: the htc inspire 4g (basically a htc desire for at&t) cant do HSPUA because the network connection is restricted at either the cell tower or software level, but it's radio is capable of HSPUA.
But that's true for the the inspire, I don't know if they've neutered the streak. They can but don't know if they did. If it bothers you, you could try changing your baseband back to 318 while staying on 340. I don't know if this will work since noone's tried (streakdroid doesnt count since it works differently.)
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I downloaded 340 firmware and i have to say it sucked i was only downloading at 30-40kB where when i was on 318 my download speed was close to 240kB and upload was 130kB so i went back to 318 also with 340 there is no tethering option and no loading unknown apps option.

I just ran a speedtest and my results were...
Download: 779kbps
Upload: 1537kbps

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I just ran a speedtest and my results were...
Download: 779kbps
Upload: 1537kbps
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That's horrible download speed
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That's horrible download speed
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Considering I'm in new york city yes it is. How do I fix that?

AT&T 4G lies

I just read on AT&T's website that they consider 6Mb/s to be their 4G.
This means that our 4G devices will never be any faster than the iPhone 4 which supports up to 7.2Mb/s.
When I bought my Atrix I was under the assumption that they would eventually make use of the HSPA+ that the phone supports.
If the iPhone 4 is a 3G device then so is the Atrix.
Dear AT&T,
Thanks for lying and using trickery to attract customers. You suck.
PS hurry up and at least enable HSUPA
For all those that don't know, when they enable HSUPA this will not speed up our download connection speed, only the upload. So don't expect much.
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Link to where they say its 6? I thought it was 14 or so. Forgive me if I don't believe its only 6
Nvm. Just read it. Normal 3G is 7.2. Not HSPA+. HSPA+ has a maximum of 14mbps. 3g is 7.2
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I was on the phone with AT&T Business today about other issues, and asked about the "4G".
The rep seemed very well informed, told me no towers in my area have dates assigned to them for upgrade to 4G yet, and that I still have some which are not even 3G capable. She also told me they are trying to get their "4G" to everyone by the end of the year, and the download speed is 20mbps. This was a lengthy conversation, much more involved than this short description, but it was very interesting to talk to a rep who actually new technical stuff.

Also read somewhere that enabling HSUPA will decrease latency which will also increase download speed. Not sure about that, though.
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Also read somewhere that enabling HSUPA will decrease latency which will also increase download speed. Not sure about that, though.
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i read that also but cant put on finger on where it was

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i read that also but cant put on finger on where it was
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSUPA
We'll get category 6 HSUPA. even says HSUPA will decrease latency. Which means we'll be seeing i4 or even higher speeds.
OP. Overreact much? Especially over misinformation.
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http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...locale=&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB115947
This says in the 'Just how fast is AT&T 4G' faq "AT&T is seeing network speeds up to approximately 6Mbps"
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What the network is capable of delivering and the maximum speed the device supports are two different things. Both the Inspire and the Atrix have radios that can pull up to 14.4 Mbps if the network is able to provide it.

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http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...locale=&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB115947
This says in the 'Just how fast is AT&T 4G' faq "AT&T is seeing network speeds up to approximately 6Mbps"
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THe key word in that statement is "approximately" 6mpbs, it is just marketing. You will barely ever see the full speeds of "4g" due to the physics of networks.

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This means that our 4G devices will never be any faster than the iPhone 4 which supports up to 7.2Mb/s.
Ha! Iphone 4? The 3gs is capable of 7.2. So all we got was a 3g phone with dual core that is locked down by att and moto. If I could pull 6 mbs on a regular I would be really happy with that. I avg about 700 kbps.
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like sifon said... and i wouldn't even exactly call it a "marketing" term. It's just going the logical route. They say approximately 6Mbps.... because if they say something like "You will expect to see 10Mbps".... then imagine how many calls they're going to get from people complaining cause they're ONLY getting 6Mbps. And i don't even see why people are complaining about THAT! 6Mbps? on a PHONE?!? Just a few years ago, 5Mbps was the fastest broadband internet connection via cable in my area. 6Mbps is probably still faster than a lot of broadband connections here in the US (except for that one city that's going to be getting Google's gigabit fiber optic internet connection.... lucky f*ckers).
And yes... when they enable HSUPA, we will probably (see? if i said "will" here, me and anyone quoting me would probably get flamed like crazy if it didn't come to pass) see a lot lower latencies and higher download speeds than we currently are. As we all know, internet connections are a two way thing. If you can't get information TO the servers, you won't get it FROM them either.

I have 4g download speed in my neighborhood. (luck me! ) I pull 4 on average, and 5 rarely. 6 is a marketing speed. You will never see 6.

what are your upload speeds?

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what are your upload speeds?
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They're obviously .33 still. HSUPA isn't enabled on our phones yet. Not until we get that HSUPA update.
Also, can anyone confirm whether it's 14 Mbps, or 20/22? I keep seeing different numbers tossed around, and I can't be sure anymore.

my phone says H+ on it and 5 bars yet download speed says 500-600 kbps and upload is right around 100. on my wifi at home i have clearwire and i get 3 megs down 1 meg up and my phone says it gets the same 3md/1mu when its hooked up to wifi. do i neeg to go get a different sim card for my atrix? ATT told me i dont need one because the 4G network wont be out for another 6 months to a year (which is misinformation, we have it in seattle AFAIK). but even w/ 3G i should be pulling A LOT faster than that right?

i can pull 5.5 with a captivate

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i can pull 5.5 with a captivate
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i can pull that down and more with my atrix whats ur point ?

Think the point is that with a 4G phone, if you're in a 4G area, you WOULD be pulling a lot more.... but due to not having fast uploads, download speeds are crippled.

the problem here is that with AT&T's 'enhanced back-haul program' they are only planning on buying some additional bandwidth and speed (raising it to 6Mbps) for each tower's individual internet connection. So even if the tower is using HSPA+ to transmit data to our phones, it is only going to be as fast as the internet connection that the tower has.
Its like using a really nice Wireless router, and wireless card. While it is nice, it doesn't make your connection speed any faster than an older model of router and card that could already handle your internet connection.
I really hope I'm wrong, but anyone who tells you that your Atrix is going to have a 20Mbps mobile data connection from AT&T is just blowing smoke up your @$$.

Interesting facts:
128 HSPA+ network in 65 countries including:
95 HSPA+ networks offering peak rates of 21 Mbps
11 HSPA+ networks offering peak rates of 28 Mbps
22 HSPA+ networks offering peak rates of 42 Mbps
Here is something very interesting for the future:
Radio over Fiber (RoF) Communication System - supposedly has d/l rate of 20Gb/s and is equal to the speed of optic fiber. Could be available in 10 years to the public.