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UN-Friggin-Locked Baby!

Confirmed! I got a code from unlockadic on EBay and now have my Vibrant on ATT! FU TMobile!

Could you not have just bought a captivate?

Sure, but wanted a Vibrant and got one used much cheaper. Plus, I don't have a contract and don't want to have one.

Shane_pcs said:
Could you not have just bought a captivate?
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Yeah I am confused, what is the benefit of having a vibrant on AT&T as opposed to just getting a captivate? Aren't you basically running the same phone but without 3G?

We're all happy for you, not sure why though.

Plus, I need to use it out of the country and att wouldn't unlock the Captivate for 10 months, even if bought at full price. What do you mean no 3g? I am using 3g on it no prob.
Being that there have been several people wanting to unlock it without success, I figured I would let everyone know that this source is confirmed to work. If you aren't concerned, why bother posting that you don't care?

techspy said:
Plus, I need to use it out of the country and att wouldn't unlock the Captivate for 10 months, even if bought at full price. What do you mean no 3g? I am using 3g on it no prob.
Being that there have been several people wanting to unlock it without success, I figured I would let everyone know that this source is confirmed to work. If you aren't concerned, why bother posting that you don't care?
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Really? That is interesting I have always been told that the tmo and AT&T 3G networks weren't compatible, and my unlocked mytouch has no 3G access.
Edit; It isn't that I didn't care I was just confused at the benefit of doing it considering the availability of nearly the same device on the network you are using it on.

maybe you should give Simple Mobile a try since it's unlocked. $60 a month for unlimited everything, no contract. An additional $10 gets you international calling. Sorta like Boost Mobile, except you supply your own unlocked GSM phone. There's a one time $12.99 fee to get their SIM.
I went this route with my daughter as I was able to get her a cheap used slider phone for practically nothing.
And the reason why this worked for him is the Vibrant supports the UMTS1900 band that AT&T uses. One of the rare T-Mobile phones that does.

I am confused how you are using 3G? ATT uses 850mhz band for their 3G and the Vibrant only is able to use 3G on either 1700mhz or 2100mhz. Am I missing something here?
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Yep, 3g is working. The places I will be spending time in out of the USA don't have many options for service. Basically I buy prepaid sims and don't use data.
I have been with ATT so long that I still have the $15/mo unlimted data. Which is low enough to warrant leaving the account on while I am out of the country.
So to recap, ATT would not let me unlock the Captivate for 10 months even if I bought it outright. (I spent a long time talking to them to find this out as I was about to purchase a Captivate)
I do not want to get into a new contract
I need to use it out of the country.
I got a Vibrant used at a good deal.
That Simple Mobile looks like a good deal! If I didn't have the $15/mo unlimited data now, I would give them a shot.

dcam1075 said:
I am confused how you are using 3G? ATT uses 850mhz band for their 3G and the Vibrant only is able to use 3G on either 1700mhz or 2100mhz. Am I missing something here?
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I don't know but it is working. I have crappy service at my house (for all carriers) and it goes back and forth between "3G" and "E". When I have a descent signal, it sure seems pretty snappy so I believe it is 3G. I will try a speed test when I am in a good signal location. Aren't the Captivate and Vibrant the same hardware wise? Wouldn't it make sense that it would work with ATT 3G if that is the case?

They area similar hardware but the radios are carrier specific. I am pretty sure it won't work on 3G on ATT for the same reason the iPhone doesn't work on T-Mo's 3G. You must be seeing some sort of glitch on your phone. Definitely try a speed test while you are on 3G and let us know!
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I had to take a drive to test. Solid 5 bars, 3G indicator and tested on DSL reports and mobilespeedtest.com, both gave same numbers 1127kbps.

Get the speedtest.com app in the market.that is a more reliable speed test app.
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I see speedtest by xtreme labs, speedtest.net speed test, and mordax speedtest. No speedtest.com app shows up.

techspy said:
I see speedtest by xtreme labs, speedtest.net speed test, and mordax speedtest. No speedtest.com app shows up.
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speedtest.net

My bad I meant speedtest.net
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Got it. I will test tomorrow and post the results.

I am confused about the Vibrant's 3G capabilities on ATT network as well...
When I had my Nokia N95 unlocked it didn't work on TMO's 3G but did on ATT's network. The same deal with iPhones, they won't work on TMO's 3G and limited to EDGE.
Well, I will have TMO unlock my Vibrant and pop my blackberry's ATT card in to see what's the deal.

You should of got an iphone... Lol.
Good luck with working it all out!
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Desire HD data plan on AT&T?

Hi folks,
I'm currently looking around for smartphones with 850/1900Mhz 3G that are not sold by AT&T, so that I can use them with the cheap $10 unlimited data plan on AT&T like I currently do with the Bell Galaxy S and Telus Milestone that you'll see in my signature.
I'm aware that AT&T already has the Inspire 4G, but I don't want that, because it requires the expensive, capped data plan instead of the cheap unlimited plan.
I know that this method works on the Telus Desire A8182. Can anyone tell me if this works on the Telus Desire HD A9192, or does AT&T have the full list of IMEI numbers and requires the expensive plan for even the Bell model? (this happened with the Xperia X10, folks using the Rogers model with cheap data on AT&T suddenly got bumped to the expensive plans as soon as AT&T carried the X10 themselves).
Thanks in advance I'd appreciate info from folks using both the A9192 or the A9191 on AT&T.

NOBODY using this phone on AT&T??

HTC desire hd data plan on AT&T
im using the desire hd unbranded on AT&T the unlimited 2g data plan it works well. you just need to have the APN setup for AT&T on your desire HD.

ch12islee said:
im using the desire hd unbranded on AT&T the unlimited 2g data plan it works well. you just need to have the APN setup for AT&T on your desire HD.
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Thanks for that info. Can you tell me how your device shows up (what picture/name) in your online AT&T account?
I'm very curious if this applies to the A9192 as well (I presume you have A9191 right?)

I'm using the Telus version. With the correct APN, everything works perfectly.

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I'm using the Telus version. With the correct APN, everything works perfectly.
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Can I confirm that you are using this on AT&T with the cheap non-smartphone data plan and they haven't forced you to get one of the more pricey capped plans?

Actually, no. I'm using it with the unlimited (grandfathered) plan

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Actually, no. I'm using it with the unlimited (grandfathered) plan
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Well how does it show up in AT&T's database? Does it show up as a smartphone, or could you actually use it with the dumbphone plan?

Well I am also curious if it has any impact on data plan and if we can use the A9191 Roms without bricking our A9192 phones?
I am so ready to move on from my craptivate. I have such a bitter taste about them that I won't even consider the Nexus S that is going to work on 3G in March.
Also the Desire HD brother that ATT just released is full of their usual bloatware and of course no source code to start making own roms.

ch12islee said:
im using the desire hd unbranded on AT&T the unlimited 2g data plan it works well. you just need to have the APN setup for AT&T on your desire HD.
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Same here, all I get is 2G on the Unlimited Data plan. Wished I could be using the HSPDA line instead. But you get what you paid for. MY APN basically got set up by itself, flashed and using CM7. I guess ATT Signal for HSPDA is not on this one.

You probably have the wrong one. The one that launched on Telus (canada) has the right bands for AT&T, the EU one doesn't.
Funk, is your plan the unlimited smartphone one or the unlimited dumbphone one?

Yes I have A9191 and its just a blank picture on my account. When I called to activate I just said my phone is not US 3g capable.
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ch12islee said:
Yes I have A9191 and its just a blank picture on my account. When I called to activate I just said my phone is not US 3g capable.
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Good to know...I'm really hoping it's the same deal with the A9192, my brother is probably gonna buy that phone

what was the outcome of this? did att put your brother on the capped data plan?

I have a Rogers branded HTC Magic 32A and I'm using the $15/mo unlimited data plan that I got several years ago to support my WM HP phone. I get 3g data HSDPA service. I'm looking to upgrade to HTC Inspire 4G/Desire HD and don't know what my options are. Anybody have any input?

Was anyone able to confirm if the A9192 uses the $10 data plan?

I'm pretty sure that the Desire HD will not be registered on ATT's smartphone and that you will be able to use it with the unlimited dumbphone plan. Just make sure that when you buy it, the HSDPA or 3G bands are 850/1900 and not any other bands.
The only reason why I'm not getting this phone is because of the 1230mAh battery life. I feel that this is way too short of a battery life and that it wouldn't be worth it coming from a 1450mAh battery on a Vibrant.
Edit: If you're seriously thinking about getting the HTC to work on ATT, I think you're better off getting the HTC Sensation 4G (Bell version) because it's more well rounded than the Desire HD. However, finding this exact phone might become a challenge because the HTC Sensation 4G is in US only for T-Mobile. You will need to find the Bell version for it to be up and working with ATT.

[Q] Tmobile Bandwidth Limit

Hello Everyone, I am currently with Tmobile and I have my G2 rooted and I love it. I use the portable hotspot feature quite a bit at work so I'm signed up for tmobiles "unlimited" internet on my phone. However Once I hit 5gb bandwidth for the month I received a text message saying that I had hit the 5gb cap for the month and for the duration of the pay period I would still have internet since I'm signed up for "unlimited" but I would have a reduced speed... Let me tell you right now its very reduced. So my first question is, do you guys have this problem? and my second question is, which service providers don't have this lame cap? My friend is on Sprint currently and he's used 12GB bandwidth so far this month and can still use his 4G speed which would be nice. So I may go with Sprint however I'd like to keep my options open so do you guys know if Verizon or At&T have the cap as well? Also what kind of phones would you guys suggest with the two? Preferably I'd like to fix the problem with Tmobile however I don't see that happening because when I went in the store they said I was already at the most internet /month.

Currently the only 2 providers that dont have a cap AFAIK are sprint and verizon. ATT used to have one, but was taken away back when the first ipad came out and now they only offer 2gb and charge you 10 dollars a gig over that. Sprint phones arent all that great right now ,probably the best phone on sprint right now IMO, would be the epic 4g. Verizons best phone is the thunderbolt, which ironically isnt for sale yet, but it will this month. they also have the iphone and some other android phones (fairly outdated at this point)
You got to remember that verizon is more expensive than t-mobile. Sprint is fairly expensive too and their 4g phones require an extra 10 dollar fee for bs reasons. If you want the unlimited data youre going to have to pony up the cash.
If i was you i would wait for the dual core phones to come to those carries, the droid bionic for verizon and who knows what for sprint.
Ps. I heard that verizon is throttling the top 5% of its users. I read it in engadget but alas, i dont have that carrier/problem so i havent looked into it.
Hope i helped a little
Edit: forgot to mention that if you want 4g you have to make sure that you are in an area that has the 4g specific for that carrier. Your friend has 4g on sprint so that means youre at least in a wimax (sprint 4g) area.
Verizon has a different 4g (LTE) that might not be in your area at this point in time.
Also sprint has 3 4g phones, t mobile has 3 and verizon has only 1 and it isnt even out yet.
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Nice break down.
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personally with the price per month my wife and i are paying for tmobile i would never leave.
best way to do it is to have 5 member family plan... cheapest way at least.

A T-Mobile tech support rep told me that he was told in a recent meeting that they were going back to the 10 gig cap. He said a date wasn't mentioned...who knows if this is true or not, I'm just sharing what I was told.

That was amazingly helpful and I have a lot to consider now. I do have it pretty nice with Tmobile right now because we have a 5 family member plan and if there is a prospect of 10gig coming out then I will probably wait it out. And if the new phones come out and I still want to change then I will. Thank you so much for your help!

There is a way to defeat the throttle. I've never hit the cap myself so haven't tried it. Five year old data plan with 10gb? Limit. But for root users it involved removing 3 files from the radio? Try searching the dev threads. I do remember that T-mo was the only carrier that this would work with. The throttle takes place on your device.

kgold708 said:
There is a way to defeat the throttle. I've never hit the cap myself so haven't tried it. Five year old data plan with 10gb? Limit. But for root users it involved removing 3 files from the radio? Try searching the dev threads. I do remember that T-mo was the only carrier that this would work with. The throttle takes place on your device.
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I was under the impression that method no longer worked. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
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dynamikd said:
I was under the impression that method no longer worked. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
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Nope, my bad. I'm wrong on this one. Good luck!

Well Tmo finally saw what we were doing in data throttling and it did work realllly well..but all good things come to an end.
I have however managed to "defeat" throttling by....staying under the 5GB. Through wifi surfing. I have wifi at home and at work and those are the two places you find me . Simple.
But its a DAMN SHAME because I never rode wifi before because HDSPA is faster than wifi. Takes me twice as long to download a CM nightie on wifi.
Tmo has got to smarten up. Still they're still my favorite compared to the others.

androidcues said:
But its a DAMN SHAME because I never rode wifi before because HDSPA is faster than wifi. Takes me twice as long to download a CM nightie on wifi.
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Your broadband connection being shared via wifi must really be slow for HSDPA to be faster. What is it, DSL?
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I agree,your broadband connection via wifi must really suck. I get an average of 13gb down & just under 3 gb up. Some day's I'll get a little over 15gb down. You should probably get a new router.
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Is MetroPCS unlocking phones?

Hey guys, I was searching the interwebs for some general unlocking info and I found this from a couple years ago. Pretty interesting I think, what happened to this? Are they actually reflashing phones in-store? As far as the "gradual opening of the US wireless market"...it's gradual indeed
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2541615...ss/t/metropcs-customers-bring-your-own-phone/

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MetroPCS will allow you to use some CDMA handsets from other providers, yes. But you don't get data; you'll have to figure out how to do that yourself. I know plenty of folks who put OG Droids and EVOs on Ghettro, though I don't know why... 1xRTT is pretty miserable, way too slow for a real smartphone... and their LTE isn't compatible with Verizon LTE handsets afaik.
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Interesting. So are GSM data standards are more inter-compatible between carriers than with CDMA? (I had to look up what 1xRTT is =) )

shadowguy1 said:
Interesting. So are GSM data standards are more inter-compatible between carriers than with CDMA? (I had to look up what 1xRTT is =) )
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It's the same principle, each carrier runs their network on different frequencies, except most who use the same technology also use the same texting/phone frequencies.
If Metro had the same 3G bands as Verizon, a Verizon phone would work fine.

MetroPCS doesn't have EV-DO at all.

Yes they do. if you are using their latest .prl (3025) and your phone is 3G capable, you will get 3G in the rare places where it is available. i live in nyc and did not get 3g on metro unless i went to Brooklyn . i used the speedtest app and it got 300ish kbps on an evdo network. not bad speed for metropcs, but very slow compared to what im using now.
Check here if you don't believe me:
http://androidforums.com/samsung-admire/413237-3g-samsung-admire-here-3022-prl.html
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shadowguy1 said:
Hey guys, I was searching the interwebs for some general unlocking info and I found this from a couple years ago. Pretty interesting I think, what happened to this? Are they actually reflashing phones in-store? As far as the "gradual opening of the US wireless market"...it's gradual indeed
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2541615...ss/t/metropcs-customers-bring-your-own-phone/
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There are two stores around me that do it. $50 to get your phone on there network. Only one of them does the data. Not sure how much they charge. But it's not officially done by metro. It's individuals who work in the store and the money goes to them.
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Speaking of bringing your own phone....anybody know anything about simplesim. I've thought about going to them from att.
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simplesim? Do you mean Simple Mobile?

shadowguy1 said:
simplesim? Do you mean Simple Mobile?
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Yeah that's it. Know anything about em
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boborone said:
Yeah that's it. Know anything about em
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They are an MVNO of T-Mobile. To be honest, I would just go with T-Mobile's monthly 4G plans instead of Simple but to each his own. Some people swear by them.
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Babydoll25 said:
They are an MVNO of T-Mobile. To be honest, I would just go with T-Mobile's monthly 4G plans instead of Simple but to each his own. Some people swear by them.
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I'm about to go to sprint for the unlimited data. Att is going to start throttling me on mine. I've just all these GSM phones laying around and would like to use them.
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boborone said:
I'm about to go to sprint for the unlimited data. Att is going to start throttling me on mine. I've just all these GSM phones laying around and would like to use them.
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It won't be unlimited for long...WImax sucks too....but whatever makes you happy.
I'd say take Verizon up on their double data promo if your going CDMA
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Babydoll25 said:
It won't be unlimited for long...WImax sucks too....but whatever makes you happy.
I'd say take Verizon up on their double data promo if your going CDMA
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What's double data. I typically use around 150 gb a month. That's why I like unlimited.

I met a guy recently on Simple Mobile and he seemed happy, I'm thinking of switching soon. I mean, unlimited 3G data, text and talk for $40 a month including international texting? Considering my phone only does 3G (Vibrant) anyways...
But, I also don't use that much data.

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What's double data. I typically use around 150 gb a month. That's why I like unlimited.
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They have a promo where if you order 2GB for 30$ you automatically get 4GB and, pay for 5GB ($50) get 10GB, and so on....
ALSO: To anyone thinking of Simple mobile go with the higher priced option. The 40$ dollar option doesn't give you access to 4G speeds (T-Mobile's HSPA+ in this case) even if your phone is only 3G capable you will see a speed boost.
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Babydoll25 said:
They have a promo where if you order 2GB for 30$ you automatically get 4GB and, pay for 5GB ($50) get 10GB, and so on....
ALSO: To anyone thinking of Simple mobile go with the higher priced option. The 40$ dollar option doesn't give you access to 4G speeds (T-Mobile's HSPA+ in this case) even if your phone is only 3G capable you will see a speed boost.
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Ahhh I see. Still too little for me. I hook my phone to my tv and watch Netflix, the news. Play games and such. I'm a data hog I know.
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G1 on Simple Mobile 3G plan. Horrible speeds!

Does anyone else experience this or have any solutions I can try. I'm getting about 0.12 kbps on "3G" and only 2mb on wifi sitting right next to my router with Bright house Road Runner Turbo. My PC gets about 20mbps. So what gives? Is this just a low data speed phone or is something not right? Here are the specs:
Android 2.2.3
Radio-2.22.27.08
Kernel-ezterry v1.5.1f
ROM-DREAMteam Froyo v2.0.0

try upateing radio to .25 in ezterrys 2708+ thread
also if you look for his ezgingerbread rom there is a file there you can flash in recovery to update gprs from 10 to 12 that helps some to get faster speeds.
also if you go into dialer and type
*#*#4636#*#*
you can run some tests and change how your radio
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demkantor said:
try upateing radio to .25 in ezterrys 2708+ thread
also if you look for his ezgingerbread rom there is a file there you can flash in recovery to update gprs from 10 to 12 that helps some to get faster speeds.
also if you go into dialer and type
*#*#4636#*#*
you can run some tests and change how your radio
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Is there a list of these extra codes for the G! online somewhere?

maybe i never looked but im sure somewhere.
look up maybe "htc android phone dialer"

Thanks for the help. Did the gprs fix and the radio and still getting the exact same speeds. I called simple mobile and they refreshed the network blah blah. Same exact thing. I have 2 G1's on different accounts and they both top out at about 120kpbs. This sucks! I'm also getting full bars and 3G symbols.

well you may want to consider tmobile, not sure how awesome they are in your neck of the woods, but where i live i get reception where no one else does and i pay 170 after taxes for 4 plans unlimited. not too shabby out here
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hey
im dont have my g1 anymore and when i did i never had a sim in it, but upon looking at simple mobile's web site under approved phones, it says this:
Important Note about 2G and 3G Phones
If your phone says it is a 3G phone but it does not support the 1700mhz band, it will operate at 2G (EDGE) speeds on our network.
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does the g1 support 1700mhz?

Yes. A G1 is a T-Mobile phone, and runs 3G on the 1700 band. Simple Mobile is a T-Mobile sub.
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well if you have the simple mobile $40 plan, it limits speeds to 128 kbps, if you have the $60 plan then you have a problem.

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well if you have the simple mobile $40 plan, it limits speeds to 128 kbps, if you have the $60 plan then you have a problem.
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Are you serious? I have the $40 plan but it's supposed to be 3G. Why is it that way?

I never really saw speeds much above 120k. Might just be a phone / processor limitation.

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I never really saw speeds much above 120k. Might just be a phone / processor limitation.
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G1 supports up to 7.2 mbps, so no its not a limitation there
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Back when my G1 was new, it was much faster. It slowed (including bandwidth speeds) over time with each OTA it got. I imagine it is like a 486 PC which was super fast with Windows 3.1, then slower with 95, and even slower with 98. To prove this point, try flashing DREAMING.nbh and going back to Android 1.0 RC29 and see what the speed is. My wife still loves her G1, and with only a few apps on it, 1.6 crawls. My Nexus S has also slowed a lot since going from 2.3 to 4.0.x to 4.1.1.
The speedtest app was too unreliable for me. My Nexus S on 2.3 barely did 5 MB/s on wifi, while I got 15 MB/s in the browser using flash (same as my PC). I can confirm the 15 was correct from the bandwidth graphs on my router which has DD-WRT firmware.