S-Voice - Too inconsistent to be useful - Galaxy S III General

I certainly didn't buy the phone for S-Voice, but it was definitely a sweetener in the deal. The idea of snoozing an alarm without even opening my eyes or having to move was a lazy man's dream.
After a week of practical usage, I am now resigned to the fact that the implementation is simply too flakey and inconsistent to be useful.
For a start, the literature seemed to promise that you could wake the phone into S-Voice mode by saying "Hi Galaxy". This isn't quite true. You can UNLOCK the phone by saying it (or another preset voice command), but (unless I am missing something obvious) you can't wake it. You have to press the Home or Power button to wake the phone, then you can use a voice command to unlock it. But to be honest, this is completely redundant. If you've gone to the trouble of retrieving the phone (think: while driving) and pressing a physical button, the additional effort required to simply drag your finger across the screen is negligible.
Then there's the lack of consistency in the phone's ability to listen. Sometimes it responds instantly and positively. Other times it has selective deafness. The first morning I tried the "snooze" command, a lesuirely, tired utterance was all it took to snooze the phone (which I was very pleased with). The next morning, it was a case of: "snooze.... snooze.... SNOOZE!!" before an elbow in the face from my wife told me that this wasn't going to work, and I had to drag myself out of my pit to physically turn off the alarm.
It's same in the music player. Sometimes a gentle and casual "Next" has the desired effect. Other times, after the 10th attempt of screaming "NEXT!!" at the phone, you realise it just isn't going to work. There's no pattern. It simply listens sometimes, and not other times.
Finally, there's the odd inconsistency in the way the other phone software responds to an S-Voice command. There are times when S-Voice understands exactly what you are saying, but when it switches to another application to carry out the command, something gets lost in translation.
The music player is a perfect example. When attempting to show off the new found features to my wife, I instructed the phone to: "Play artist Adele". Which S-Voice understood. Music player then started.... playing Kelly Clarkson songs. Cue a derisory snort from the wife.
I've tried this dozens of times, variations of "Play song [x]", "Play songs by [x]", "Play artist [x]", "Play song [x] by [x]". Some times it works, as expected, instantly. Other times it will switch to the music player and play whichever song was last played (regardless of what you ask). Other times it will just play something completely unrelated to anything. Switching back to S-Voice always confirms that the phone had correctly understood the request.
All in all, it's just not quite there as a viable mechanism for controlling the phone. You simply can't rely on it. Which, unfortunately, resigns it to the "gimmick" bin.
In terms of comparisons to Siri, I would say the vocal "hit rate" is similar, the list of integration to phone features is better, but it lacks the personality and humour - which shouldn't be completely overlooked.

I second this. After seeing Siri being shown off by a colleague, then when they announced S-Voice for SGS3 I thought finally Samsung can kick apple in jewels and improve it massively. Hmmmm....
I got mine yesterday and tried to make an appointment booking, turn on blue tooth, set an alarm, do a simple addition and navigate. I tried speaking slow and clearly and normal and clear.
The appointment booking totally useless! I even tried to be a yank and do things backwards i.e MM/DD/YY. It even got the title wrong. Epic FAIL!
Setting the alarm clock. Worked like a treat
Navigation using post code was rubbish, it kept mistaking G for J and added un wanted spaces. FAIL!
I asked the phone what is 2+2 it gave me an answer of 4 after about 30 seconds, I then said what is 2+2x2, it showed (2+2)x4 on screen but gave me an answer of 2+2^4?
Turning on Bluetooth kept returning an network error despite being able to immediately set the alarm after.
I found when testing quite a few features showed in the list for S-Voice some took absolutely ages to respond. I had it connected to WiFi as well. Its a good concept but needs improving a lot.
When I watched the unveiling, the guy with the french accent somehow managed to get the phone to understand him. How come nothing works for me? I dont have any accents I have a straight forward english accent.

Hmm "Turn Bluetooth On" works here. Obviously 2 + 2 * 2 is ambiguous. I tried "whats two plus two multiplied by two" and it replied 6.
As far as having it wake the phone from sleep that would mean constantly have the voice recognition on, which will probably drain your battery really quickly.

True, I imagine even a passive microphone listener would be battery consuming, though the microphone does currently listen passively when the phone is in applications such as the music player.
I think it would just be nice to have the option of genuine voice powered wake up, or at least have it as part of a "smart" profile, e.g. it is enabled when I am in the car.

I share the OP's pain, in the fact that sometimes it works perfect then the next time not at all, quite frustrating I must say.

what Samsung should have done is label it "beta" and then everyone would lower their expectations and be totally impressed by the little that it can do..
it worked for Apple and Siri

Isn't that something that can be corrected with software update though?
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Yeah, I swore it would have passive listening to wake it
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Yeah, I swore it would have passive listening to wake it
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Yeah that's what I took from the French bloke's presentation at the unveiling event.

It's a work in progress and I am sure it will be updated soon.
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The S3 isn't available here yet so I haven't gotten to try it out, but can someone who has S-Voice say the following and tell me how it responds..
"remind me to call my brother when I leave here"
I tried this in speaktoit and it did a useless web search. Tried it on Siri in the store and it did exactly what I expected. I haven't been able to find anything on Android that actually works for real life tasks as well as Siri seems to, and if S-Voice will then that would be a phone-seller for me.

Thinking back now, I'm betting the French Bloke was bricking it wouldn't work , he did look rather relived when it did
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Vcize said:
The S3 isn't available here yet so I haven't gotten to try it out, but can someone who has S-Voice say the following and tell me how it responds..
"remind me to call my brother when I leave here"
I tried this in speaktoit and it did a useless web search. Tried it on Siri in the store and it did exactly what I expected. I haven't been able to find anything on Android that actually works for real life tasks as well as Siri seems to, and if S-Voice will then that would be a phone-seller for me.
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I did this for you, surprisingly it worked first time and saved it as task, not sure how it would know when I leave though

I never expected S-voice to be anything but patchy, however I've been pleasantly surprised by its accuracy.
Sure it's not 100% but it's in the 90's for me. I've used it for...
Navigate to...
Call...
Text...
Facebook status...
Twitter status...
Alarm...
& reminder.
The wake unlock is a big let down as I thought it would do exactly what everyone else thought. Still, I'm sure this can be corrected with an update.
After over a week of using my S3 and Android for the first time I'm addicted! I love it!
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From further testing am I correct to say for example I want to create a task. I must tell the phone to "create a task" then the phone responds then you tell it more information? I thought I could just say creat task lunch with mum on june 25th at 1pm? If I try that it completely messes up.
In regards to waking up the phone by voice, I found when you are close to the phone the screen comes on prompting you to unlock with s-voice. Or are people wanting to operate the phone like half way across your living room?

Things like call, text, navigate, setting alarms etc work perfectly well with Google voice actions, Vlingo or the other voice apps. What was different about SVoice was its integration into the OS, waking the phone, snooze etc. But it sounds like those features don't really work
Things like those shouldn't even need a data connection or server support. The phone has enough power to understand a simple command like 'snooze'.

Just to clear, it does snooze... Sometimes. That's one of the key annoyances. Sometimes the "in-app" Voice control just doesn't seem to be listening, and other times it does.

Vcize said:
The S3 isn't available here yet so I haven't gotten to try it out, but can someone who has S-Voice say the following and tell me how it responds..
"remind me to call my brother when I leave here"
I tried this in speaktoit and it did a useless web search. Tried it on Siri in the store and it did exactly what I expected. I haven't been able to find anything on Android that actually works for real life tasks as well as Siri seems to, and if S-Voice will then that would be a phone-seller for me.
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It creates a task with "call my brother when I leave here" as a title. But no reminder, and there's no intelligence behind it. Doesn't know who my brother is and doesn't know where I am or whether I have left there. Useful if you check your task list often, but probably not what you were hoping for.

I agree. I'm impressed if I say 'text Kerry that I couldn't get the tickets' it would text Kerry 'I couldn't get tickets'.
I wish this was an Google app I guess we would see constant updates.
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When the first car came out it was nowhere near the Bentleys' and Rolls Royces' we have today. Gotta start somewhere, right?

I have another glitch with it, I can ask it something like 'what is the time in dubai' it recognizes it but then it just give me the local time where I am.

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working alarm?

anyone know of an alarm app which actually works? (for wm5).
i use AlarmMe 3 on my old jam and its never let me down.. sadly, this app cant wake up wm5.
What do you mean? The regular alarm applications works just fine in my Jamin
alarm...
especially if you utilise some of the custom "sounds" around, I downloaded a firetruck, a rooster, a really loud whistle, and also the wonderful sounds of birds.
The birds struggle to wake me, but the rooster and the firetruck certainly get the job done.
If you cant find them, let me know and I can upload.
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What do you mean? The regular alarm applications works just fine in my Jamin
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Not for a great number of people:
[Qtek 9100] alarm problem: wizard does not wake up - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31895
Re: alarm...
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The birds struggle to wake me
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I think the problem isn't so much the user not waking up - as it is the device not going out of standby
Two sure-fit solutions are...
1. Use an alarm application that wakes your device up to full. There is a tweak app available (modifies the registry, really), that will do this as well:
http://www.burroak.on.ca/ptafaq.html#wakeuptweak
Please note that you may experience your PocketPC turning on (and back off) randomly, making the screen appear to 'flash' all the time.
2. Don't put your PocketPC in standby mode / don't let it go to standby mode automatically.
Instead, download an application with which you can turn the display off (not just the backlight, or you'll risk LCD 'burn-in'). Never miss any alarm/notification/etc. that way. You're draining only a few percent more battery over the course of 8 hours - which, if you're using it to wake up with, you should probably have it hooked up to the charger so that it's nice and full when you wake up anyway
sorry people, didnt realise that this was the prophet forum, i picked it from the recent activity list.
mine is the universal, and it always wakes up, the alarm always sounds perfectly, and the birds not waking me up simply cause i also have birds outside the bedroom window, so they kinda get mixed up in my head.
the rooster or firetruck guaranteed to work, if you can get your device to wake up first perhaps. as i said, mine always wakes up. dont know enough of the prophet issues to help here, sorry.
no problem - the thread I referred to is for the Wizard as well anyway
It's probably a problem with a driver not having implemented the power states correctly. But nobody knows which driver, or what may be implemented wrong. Microsoft are even aware of the issue but are basically pointing to their power state guidelines and telling the developers to implement them correctly.
Of course power states are a mess, so who knows what a 'correct' implementation is, really
maybe we should diffferentiate two distinct problems here:
1.) the device is not coming up from sleep - regardless of the application, which wants to fire an alarm, etc. That's obviously the ancient problem, we already had with the XDA II ... where alarms don't get managed fully on that midnight "housekeeping", for which the device starts up into "suspended" mode ... maybe solvable by setting HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\Timeouts\BattResumingSuspendTimeout (and imho also ...\ACResumingSuspendTimeout) to something bigger than those default 30 sec, which isn't enough for people with many appointments, etc.
But for this there shurely can be found some more detailed posts here in the forum.
2.) the original poster, fastest, was talking about an old application (which I also used for long time) AlarMe, which doesn't work anymore on WM5! And the developer, eppen software, isn't responding. It still is installable, it still runs - it even still wakes up the device (as far as I remember), *but* it doesn't play any sounds anymore.
Meanwhile I switched to Chronos from www.activekitten.com.
Nearly the same, even some more functionality, with maybe a little different philosophy / user expirience ... but works great for me (and I'm in contact with the developer regarding the newest beta-cycle, where I also asked for some features, I miss since AlarMe ;-) ).
i use Spb Time and it works very without any error or mistake....
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/time/?en
nighty

[Q] Disabling Bluetooth AD2P Audio Autoplay

Hey everyone. So I find I have an annoying issue that is kind of pissing me off. I guess a majority of car makers have this wonderful "feature" that sends a "play" signal to the phone while connecting. This would be nice IF I could pick the app it would play with but the epic and other phones like to pick the defauly music player.
The downside is that I tend to stream pandora or slacker while on the road so each morning I get 2 songs playing at once lol.... rather annoying. I then need to load the music player and stop it. There are some good parts to what the cars do....like if an incoming call is answered it pauses the active player (usually slacker for me) while on the call.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to change any of this behavior? I guess that would have to be a kernel change or possibly a bluetooth apk if there is one? I would love to try to find a way to leave the pause portion there for calls but maybe like a check if there is a active player on top then play or pause is OK, but if in background, dont do anything.
I have searched a lot on this and it seems to be a common issue. But I just wanted to see if anyone has any ideas. I tried the app "autostarts" but it complains about not having root access even though the phone is rooted so that isnt an option it seems. It's probably wishful thinking, but was hoping maybe someone has an idea.
Or is there something I could use to kill Music Player for example "if" it was auto started and not run by me directly?
I suppose you could use a task killer and set it to kill the music player whenever it starts up. You could always disable it when your not using it. I wouldn't use it for anything else besides the music player that you wish to kill.
The problem I see with that is with most task killers they use a timer... unless I am missing one that will kill it automatically when it opens? The downside to that is if I use another app to monitor that app I have a feeling I am going to kill my battery life if it constantly monitoring.
You may be able to do this using tasker. It's not free (five bucks) and it's a bit complicated, but there is a week's trial on the developer's website.
I'm not allowed to post links, but just google tasker for android. The version in the market doesn't have the trial, though.The one on the developer's website is a buck cheaper and offers a trial.
If you aren't familiar with it, you can basically use it to take any input the phone uses (phone, sms, location data, gesture, bluetooth data, whatever) and make it output any event, so you could have it give a media all stop command every time you connect it to bluetooth. You could even have it automatically bring up a little menu with pandora, music player, last FM.. whatever media players you use.. after that. You could probably even get it to perform different behaviors depending on which bluetooth radio you connected to (so you could have it do something different in your car than in your friend's car for instance).
It's really a lifesaver of a program, well worth the five bucks I dropped on it, it's replace multiple other apps in my life. Not trying to sound too much like a commercial, but I have every reason to think it would do what you want. It is a bit complicated until you get the hang of it, though.
megabillzilla said:
You may be able to do this using tasker. It's not free (five bucks) and it's a bit complicated, but there is a week's trial on the developer's website.
I'm not allowed to post links, but just google tasker for android. The version in the market doesn't have the trial, though.The one on the developer's website is a buck cheaper and offers a trial.
If you aren't familiar with it, you can basically use it to take any input the phone uses (phone, sms, location data, gesture, bluetooth data, whatever) and make it output any event, so you could have it give a media all stop command every time you connect it to bluetooth. You could even have it automatically bring up a little menu with pandora, music player, last FM.. whatever media players you use.. after that. You could probably even get it to perform different behaviors depending on which bluetooth radio you connected to (so you could have it do something different in your car than in your friend's car for instance).
It's really a lifesaver of a program, well worth the five bucks I dropped on it, it's replace multiple other apps in my life. Not trying to sound too much like a commercial, but I have every reason to think it would do what you want. It is a bit complicated until you get the hang of it, though.
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+1... was just about to say, Tasker can do it. Tasker has been the best $5 I've spent in a loonnnng time.
I got tired of getting up in the morning for my 1.5 hour morning commute (gotta drop the kid off to daycare in another county) and getting to work late because it had been rainy and terrible. Setting the alarm crazy early just to check and see if the weather was any good was not a pleasant prospect, and with winter on the way, I needed a solution.
So I spent an evening with Tasker. I had it perform an HTTP GET at Accuweather.com after passing my zip code to the website. I then had it search the returned text for words such as "rain", "snow" and storm". It runs this search at about 5:00 AM, and dependent upon the result, sets an alarm (with a snooze function that I programmed in). After the initial alarm, since I knew I'd be too tired to pay much attention to WHY it had woken me up early, I have it speak out loud "Good morning, you have been woken early today because it is [X weather] and [X degrees, after performing a Celcius to Farenheit conversion]. It is currently [time].
I plan on posting the Tasker profile to my blog in a couple days after I'm sure it contains no bugs (it'll probably snow in the morning so I'll be able to test that scenario).
Anyhow, this just gives a taste of what Tasker can do. I have it launch a list of apps when I plug into the headset jack, silence my phone if I get within 300 meters of work, or sound an alarm, vibrate, flash an LED, take pictures, and redirect outgoing calls to my girlfriend's phone if I send it a certain text message, to name a few very useful profiles I've got set up.
Tasker does everything without forcing you to learn any syntax or do any coding at all. It would be a matter of minutes to set up a scenario where, if you connect via Bluetooth, it waits a moment and terminates the default video player application and then launches the other application you want to use. One of the profiles I've forgotten to mention is one that, when I launch Navigation with the GPS off, closes Navigation, enables GPS, and loads Navigation back up. When I'm in the car I just want to touch Navigation, not screw with GPS settings.
Anyhow, enough of my gushing about Tasker. Seriously, best $5 app you'll ever buy. Trust me.
That might be pretty nice... wonder if it can tell the difference between a bluetooth headset and AD2P. I'll have to try it. Wonder if it could start my car with its application too like 30 min after my alarm hehe.
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I've been playing with Tasker and it will do what I need Thanks! I ended up setting up a profile that when it connects to my vehicle only, it will kill music player, wait 3 seconds and then kill it again... it took that due to the fact the car doesnt send the play signal for a few seconds.

[Q] Some commands get searched instead of activated

Running into a common problem where some voice commands that interact with the watch, such as "Play some music" or "play [artist]" or "Start [app]" will sometimes get recognized as Google searches and pull up results instead of activating the command. It's random, and sometimes doing the exact same voice command immediately will work, other times it will continually pull up search results until I restart my phone.
I feel like this started after a Google Search app update that came shortly after the Android Wear release, as it was working perfectly before then, but that might just be how long it took me to notice the problem. But it happens a LOT now, and it makes it to the point where I can't trust voice commands.
Anyone else experiencing similar? Any ideas, workarounds, known Google support group thread?
I have same question ...... pls help....
I have the same problem.
I installed the microsoft bing torque app, which does not have that problem. ..
I've only had my G Watch R for a week or so and all of a sudden I'm having this problem as well.
'Show me my steps' and 'show me my heart rate'; these commands used to work perfectly, but now they all result in a google search instead of performing the action
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I've only had my G Watch R for a week or so and all of a sudden I'm having this problem as well.
'Show me my steps' and 'show me my heart rate'; these commands used to work perfectly, but now they all result in a google search instead of performing the action
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Yep, I face the same problems.
I suspect it's a server-side issue as it suddenly happened to a lot of us (though seemingly not all) around the same time. It's similar to how voice dictation of location-based reminders stopped working for some people for a few days a couple of months ago. I do find it alarming, though, that the primary and intended method of interacting with the watch can simply go offline for days on end without a word for Google.
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I believe this is due to poor WiFI/cell coverage. It happens to me also, and always in low coverage areas. What's annoying is the same voice command works just fine on my phone directly. Sometimes a reset of the watch helps, but I'm guessing it just delays things until coverage gets better.
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I believe this is due to poor WiFI/cell coverage. It happens to me also, and always in low coverage areas. What's annoying is the same voice command works just fine on my phone directly. Sometimes a reset of the watch helps, but I'm guessing it just delays things until coverage gets better.
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Normally when that happens I get the dreaded "disconnected" message with the crossed-out cloud. In this case it clearly has a connection since it's pulling Google results.
Anyway, I will say this has been far less frequent since recent updates. I'd say it now works a good 80+% of the time now.
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Anyway, I will say this has been far less frequent since recent updates. I'd say it now works a good 80+% of the time now.
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For me as well. I pre-ordered both (kept the LG) and for a while it was CLEARLY a Beta product. Every day it's getting better and more mature, and really is quite a great product. For $70 for the LG G Watch how could any Android user not try it out...BTW you're right about the "Disconnected" vs "Search results". I may be forgetting which happens when, but the search results were definitely helped by a reboot (and are much less frequent).

Cheap Chinese Watch, Won't Push SMS, A Way Fix or Buy Something Else?

Last night I got one of those cheap Chinese smartwatches for $40 locally. (Amazon seems to have some for $20 at amzn.to/2qpSftK) Yeah I know, I know, but I work at a job that is anal about cell phones (a major gripe of mine the way places can be that way) and I need to know if my child's ride at school doesn't show up or if school lets out early due to a power outage etc, if that happens then I HAVE to pause what I'm doing and make a call or two to make pickup arrangements or else it's a legal issue of child abandonment. Such may only happen 2-3 times an entire school year, but it has happened a few times--my mother-in-law's battery was dead and she was running late, or she couldn't find her keys etc--in such cases I had to track down someone locally and get them to step-in, last minute.
Thus, I need a smartwatch which can relay calls which have come in so I can see them and it also needs to push SMS messages and let me reply to them, that way without even pulling my phone out of my pocket I will know if this has occurred (and can quickly reply to SMS) but I can otherwise keep my phone in my pocket knowing beyond any shadow of a doubt that if a call or SMS has come in, this watch WILL pick it up and I WILL be able to reply to them.
This watch I got, it is fine with relaying phone calls and it even relayed the audio from a YouTube video I was watching on the phone itself, but it WILL NOT WORK with relaying SMS. At first it did, such requires installing a "BT Notifier" on the phone (which is the best?) but even then it was hit or miss, and then it just stopped. I've done EVERYTHING in terms of different BT Notifier apps, I even scanned the "OCR Code" or whatever to point to the BT Notifier specific to that model (it appears to be a GT08 type, with the "fan" style of icons, menu/phone on the bottom left and names/text on the right, this YouTube video Ksy0pd-12BI shows one like it), I set that app up--no matter, IT WILL NOT push SMS to this smartwatch, no way/no how.
Is this a common occurrence with such smartwatches? Is this a case of that I'm going to have to just accept this model CANNOT handle SMS no matter what and get something else, vs being able to actually fix this? One model I had read good things about in an article (BIT and 2lTVoxg) called the OUMAX Bluetooth Smart Watch S6 for around $50, this model looked like a good one because it downplays "fitness" features I do not at all need and instead stresses pushing smartphone notifications and being able to replay to them, which is what I DO need. I started to get it on Amazon but then it would've required several days to get here and I need something up & running quickly but without spending $250. Maybe I should've just gotten that and waited?
Tips in general?
If anyone has any tips please do reply, I am only say this because I have an update but that doesn't mean I am not still looking for help.
I've somehow got it working just fine, no timing out of connectivity or any such thing. I had saved the downloaded BT Notifier .apk file from the app it referenced in the barcode I scanned, and I tried again but this time I disabled an app I've used on the phone for a long time--NoLED, which displays a moving dot on the LCD when notifications arrive, making it unnecessary to "wake up" the phone to see missed calls etc. I've used that app for forever, it's a long-time staple of mine, but I wondered if it was possibly interfering with this process.
I'm not sure if that is the case, but since disabling it (but also turning the watch off and letting it charge to full overnight) it's working great today. I possibly could get beyond that eventually but for now I'll take it, I mean having a smartwatch does somewhat make it less necessary anyway. The only issue now--the band, it won't attach and it's apparently a permanent part of the watch's structure, not easily swapped out. I'm not sure how I'll get around that, maybe stitching another watch band on top of it using a sewing kit?
Ultimate Fix: Watch-Specific App/Disable/Install 3rd Party
I'm somewhat disappointed in the lack of replies. Is this because this watch is now perhaps an older model, or what is the reason?
In any case, I now have the ultimate fix.
It's 3 things:
(1) Install the watch-specific app by scanning the QR code and "sideloading" the app
(2) "Force Stop" this app in Google settings but DO NOT uninstall it, leave it installed.
(3) Install the 3rd party app by "Shenznen Fan Yun Technology Co, Ltd" (green background, white circle with exclamation point) then under the "Accessibility" enable the second "BT Notifications" entry, leave the 1st one at OFF
When I got this watch, the first thing I did was download that 3rd party app, it worked some but not consistently, then it totally stopped. I then stumbled across the QR code in the watch, scanned it, installed that app, and that worked--but that app was FULL of adware, constantly bugging me to install this app or that, launching a new tab and page in my Chrome browser, and just being a total pain. I was glad the watch worked, but hated that behavior--so much I disabled the app, figuring I'd just have to re-enable it when the watch was being used.
On a hunch, eager to try again, with the watch-specific app still disabled, I downloaded the 3rd party "Shenznen Fan Yun Technology Co, Ltd" app and, just totally guessing, under "accessibility" enabled the 2nd entry (both entries have identical names so you can't tell which is which), but didn't uninstall the watch-specific app only because I figured that I would end up having to revert back to it anyway.
To my surprise, this has worked. It seems to require me turning the watch off and connecting through the watch initially, but however I get a connection and the SMS message log on the phone populates on the watch, at that point it is stable and reliable from that point on. I had it running today all-day and was receiving texts and the inbox was coming up reliably.
I hope this helps somebody. (Note: this watch is still being sold as eBay item #381686066028.)

Simplifying a Nexus 7 to Leave With A 95yr Old Dementia Sufferer For Video Chatting

I have a friend that is 95 years old who suffers from Dementia. She broke her hip this last weekend and is in the hospital an soon will transfer to a rehab care place. Dementia is ****ed. You get to watch a person slowly disappear. I don't get to see her as often as I would like and sadly only one other person goes to occasionally visit her. So my idea is to limit the N7 to just basically a simple 1 step procedure for her to be able to alert me to start a video chat or where a nurse could easily start it up for her. I thought i was going to write a camera program but reality and my lack of skills hit real quick. I have about 4 hours to make this happen and I was hoping yall would help with what apps and/or tweaks i could quickly setup to make this possible. I have aosp_grouper-7.1.2-ota-20201107.eng.ds.zip that I just installed.
main thing i need to be able to do is for her or a nurse to push a icon that'd alert me to call her back. Also iI'd like to be able to lock the screen on her so no accidently app closures. remoting in would be nice so i can continue to update and improve the tablets functionality. Please help. Thanks.
first this rom sucks..
You should be able to set a video chat app as the kiosk app to lock it down and disable screen lock so pressing the power button unlocks instantly

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