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SamFirmware confirm. Also confirm that the Nexus prime will be made by Samsung.
http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/8242490-upgraded-galaxy-s-ii
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The site isn't currently working for me but it'll probably be the same in specs but with a 4G radio.

Says 1.5 duo core - 4.5 screen - 1850 battery - 4G - rest is the same as the one we all have now.
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Many sources available now:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-confirms-revamped-galaxy-s-ii-and-galaxy-tab-8-9-with-lte-support/
http://sammyhub.com/2011/08/26/samsung-confirms-galaxy-s-ii-with-lte/
http://thisismynext.com/2011/08/26/samsung-galaxy-ii-galaxy-tab-8-9-shown-lte-ifa-week/
And more rumours about Nexus Prime:
http://www.gsmarena.com/thank_you_samsung_for_confirming_nexus_prime_is_yours-news-3051.php
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/samsung-accidentally-confirmed-the-nexus-prime-20110825/
http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/8242870-samsung-will-make-the-nexus-prime

Its named Celox..
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recklesslife85 said:
Says 1.5 duo core - 4.5 screen - 1850 battery - 4G - rest is the same as the one we all have now.
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Ahh I see. I saw the leaked photo of the US Galaxy S2 family and while they're all nice I can't help but think the International version looks better. Plus I'm not sure whether I'd fancy the bigger screen, 4.3" seems to be the sweet spot for myself.

Here we are, with our SGSII's... as early adopters....
And now they release what it probably should have been in the first place with proper firmware probably.
Oh well, it's always the same

good bye SGS2 !

wait until they are benchmarked and the first problems arise.

I wonder if it's a Qualcomm SOC or Exynos. Exynos demolishes Qualcomm's offerings at the moment

honestly, the pace at which android phones are being upgraded is dizzying. This is one of the reasons many stick with the iphone. This is giving me crazy phone upgrade cravings :|

blunted09 said:
honestly, the pace at which android phones are being upgraded is dizzying. This is one of the reasons many stick with the iphone. This is giving me crazy phone upgrade cravings :|
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Might as well dust off the 'ol 3310 then....

You can always eBay your sgs2 and pick up one sim unlocked nexus prime, the sgs2 should hold its value well and you should be able to cover a good chunk of the cost
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blunted09 said:
honestly, the pace at which android phones are being upgraded is dizzying. This is one of the reasons many stick with the iphone. This is giving me crazy phone upgrade cravings :|
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And this is a bad thing in your world...yes???
...with an iPhone upgrade due any time now too??

Its good and bad at the same time I think. Gonna stick it out for a long yime with the sgs2 but the cravings will persisy unfortunately. No cravings yet though, love this phone.

agreed to #15.
1) is there a need for another 0.2" of screen estate?
my take : 4.3" sgs2 is the sweet spot for me. i have trouble swiping my thumb across the whole screen already.
2) is there a need for an extra 0.3mhz of processor or 1850mah battery?
my take : setcpu is the answer.
extended battery pack aren't expensive on ebay.
My opinions
The extra processing power and screen estate will nullify the increase in capacity of batt. furthermore, the perennial dual core issue is still unfixed in 2.3.4. and samsung have the balls to release another "beta" phone.
my hunch
samsung is trying hard to best iphone5 and downplay it's "wow factor" in sept. notice the link? 4.5, dual core 1.5, it's all marketing numbers. like megapixel wars. no doubt, people will start comparing iphone 5 with 4.5" S2 in terms of raw power. that's what sammy wants.
but for what apple did, whoring over patents. go smash iphone5 to pieces man, sammy. we'll love a phone war anytime.
conclusion
4.5" S2 is a marketing gadget.
SGS2 has already covered much that we (a typical consumer) need.
If there's anything to look, go for tablets tegra kai-el releasing in a few months time.
I'm sure 4.5" S2 would look like phone drenched in cat piss in a few months time.
go for 4.5" S2 if...
you want lte.
you want nfc. ironically 4.3" S2 korea has it.
you use gadgets, not the other way around! ^^;

If they improve the sound quality and Supercurio brings voodoo to it, I'll be all over it.

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1) is there a need for another 0.2" of screen estate?
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4.5" S2 is a marketing gadget.
SGS2 has already covered much that we (a typical consumer) need.
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Decent analysis and I think I pretty much concur. However, I don't think (and I'm not suggesting that you do either) that Samsung are doing this to piss off early adopters or force us to upgrade - they haven't even changed the name for starters, so there is no real sense of this being something new.
Marketing gimmick? Possibly, but only hardcore techies are going to be influenced by the marginal increase in specs.
So I suspect that the bits they use to make the device have moved on - if you can get a 4.5" screen at the same price as the old 4.3", why not use it...?
This is a gentle evolution in my book, not a massive statement.

If you have a GS2 there is no reason at all to go for that phone, a 4.5" screen imo will make the phone a little on the large side and this phone can be over-clocked if desired, I don't see the point of it.

What about SUPER AMOLED HD display that was talked about ??

Galaxy S II on ATT Oct 2nd $199

Sorry if its a repost. So whos going to upgrade!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/21/...akes-its-atandt-debut-october-2nd-for-199-on/
Im not biased to any phone. I like anything new and high powered. Cant get me wrong I love my Atrix but the Galaxy S II is tempting.

i'm pretty happy with my Atrix, i think i'm gonna hold off on upgrading until a decent quad core phone comes out on the market.

Not enough of an upgrade to think about it.
The Devs have really just started to take this phone to its capabilities so worth hanging in for a while longer.
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When the SGSII came out back in... May(ish), it seems liked I should have not gotten an Atrix and waited for the SGSII to come to AT&T. the SGSII had a bigger screen, faster CPU, no Blur, no locked bootloader, and already had a pre-beta of Cyanogen out within two weeks of the phone hitting the international market.
Fast Foward to today. The Atrix has an unlocked bootloader, a *solid* beta of CM7, MIUI in the works, a bigger battery, and the performance is close to that of the SGS (in CM7 while OC'd) - in some tests it is noticeabley faster.
The SGSII also seems to have some hardware issues that have been reported. Yellowing of the screen on the left side is the most reported issue.
Now look to the future because the SGSII isn't going to come out for another two weeks. Should we have all waited to get an SGSII? No way, not IMHO. I was sitting on an iPhone 3GS for months and months after I was eligible for an upgrade, I was just waiting until something big came out or the phone died. I'll be honest, at first I did regret my Atrix purchase at times. Software versus 4.1.26 had a TON of bugs in it, 4.1.57 did too. 4.1.83 was solid, and when we got GB the phone was pretty solid. Now with CM7 I have no complaints over the phone at all, and I'm glad I didn't suffer with my iPhone 3GS for the last 7 months (I bougt the Atrix on release day) waiting for the SGSII after returning the Atrix to wait for the SGSII.
If I had waited this long for the SGSII with my iPhone 3GS, I would likely pass up the SGSII and wait for more info on the Nexus Prime.
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One thing I don't miss going from my captivate to atrix is in the power usage menu "display" being like 95%. I don't know why they say SAMOLED use less power. I know the screen on the sgs and sgs2 is different but they're close enough IMO. Also after all the BS with GPS and poor update from Samsung I don't know if I could buy another. As far as specs....IMO I don't think it's worth the upgrade the specs are really similar. The only reason I might be tempted is for the dev support.
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as someone who has had both i can assure you the atrix is a much more all-around solid piece of hardware.
like reported above the screen on the SGSii may be bigger but it has its issues (yellow left on most handsets and battery consumption).
the battery is simply way worse then atrix.
and what got to me the most about going back to the atrix was the sound quality, it was simply horrendous, especially for a high-end phone like that.
the sound chip on it is sub-par compared to the original SGS even, with high end headphones i was getting distortions, low volume, and very un-even sound, to anyone who wants to listen to music on his phone this one simply kills the deal.
atrix has a very very good audio experience compared.
same goes for call quality.
and the phone doesnt even have a led for notifications.
also doesnt have an hdmi-out without you buying some special cable adapter.
what does seem to be on its side is a huge dev base working on it and realeasing things daily but the atrix is starting to catch up... just give it some time.
either way upgrading from a atrix to a galaxy 2 is pretty stupid, except for a bit larger screen you really dont get anything in return for all that cash.
i'd wait atleast another year before ditching the atrix. theres simply nothing today that it cant handle so why buy another "future proof" phone when your current one is still "future proof"

Definitely sticking with my atrix <3
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It appears to have a lot of dev support, but how many of those ROM's are the exact same thing with a different theme? That's the way the Captivate was until CM7 dropped...everything was the same.
I'll stick with the Atrix.
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... the screen on the SGSII is so lustworthy... it oozes awesomeness. Other then that --- Atrix is better IMO.
i want both.
iphone5 too if its nice.

i just upgraded this july so no sgsII for me. the galaxy was going to be my upgrade, but it just took too long to come out. also, it's not gonna be the latest and greatest anymore like it would've been when it came out internationally, the sgsIII will probably be out internationally in 6 months since most phone lines get upgraded yearly.
my friend mentioned the PS Vita yesterday and i'm doing research on that to see if it has enough functions to become a phone for me.

s1mpd1ddy said:
... the screen on the SGSII is so lustworthy... it oozes awesomeness. Other then that --- Atrix is better IMO.
i want both.
iphone5 too if its nice.
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I'd rather have an atrix with an average screen than have a SAMOLED that destroys my battery. I have an upgrade available and being 100% honest I'm waiting for a new BB QNX mobile phone to drop next year. The new 9810 with os7 was actually a pretty big step forward in speed and functionality and supposedly QNX will be able to run Android apps as well. Not saying it's gonna be the king of phones but it looks pretty cool.
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My wife is getting it in October, about 2 weeks after it comes out. She is already in love with it and the fact that we are getting the NFC enabled version made her happier. She's almost as big a nerd as I am. (I'm not allowed to touch it, she wants to do everything on her own)
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isn't the sgs2 screen still 800 x 480?

I have the infuse plus an atrix, while the screen on the infuse is so sexy,, the atrix for me has the total package,, the sgs2 for me is not that much of a upgrade from my atrix, even the infuse for that matter, sure it has godly specs, but in real world usage, even my old ass dinc still get the job done,,
I dont like where the smartphone market is heading.. things need to slow back down. alittle,, before you know it, the atrix 3 will be out 3 months after the atrix 2 at the end of the year, lol

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isn't the sgs2 screen still 800 x 480?
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It is. I wouldn't be able to go to the lower resolution.
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It is. I wouldn't be able to go to the lower resolution.
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yeah i forgot about that lower rez -- UGH -- why put it out at a lower rez then qHD? COME ON SAMMY.

The newer Super AMOLED Plus displays have more sub-pixels and they do not use pentile anymore which also helps eliminate the "grainy" look. I would still like to see qHD but I don't think there is going to be much to complain about on these screens.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/02/2...s-than-previous-amoled-screens-better-colors/
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-plus-resolution-explained
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yeah i forgot about that lower rez -- UGH -- why put it out at a lower rez then qHD? COME ON SAMMY.
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exactly why i love the screen on my infuse.. but the atrix for everything else, lol

TheBassman369 said:
It appears to have a lot of dev support, but how many of those ROM's are the exact same thing with a different theme? That's the way the Captivate was until CM7 dropped...everything was the same.
I'll stick with the Atrix.
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Not all the same - they had different themes!

live4nyy said:
The newer Super AMOLED Plus displays have more sub-pixels and they do not use pentile anymore which also helps eliminate the "grainy" look. I would still like to see qHD but I don't think there is going to be much to complain about on these screens.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/02/2...s-than-previous-amoled-screens-better-colors/
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-plus-resolution-explained
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I owned an Infuse and loved the screen and the colors, but I would rather have a higher resolution screen. I find the lower resolution something to complain about, although it isn't that big of a deal for some people.
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Anyone thinking about a Samsung model?

Anyone thinking about updating to a Samsung model? The larger screen and faster processing is nice. Lots of speed, quick downloads and community support.
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Anyone thinking about updating to a Samsung model? The larger screen and faster processing is nice. Lots of speed, quick downloads and community support.
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I agree with that but they are mostly made of plastic. I still prefer HTC phones because of the aluminum unibody build and sleek design.
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Anyone thinking about updating to a Samsung model? The larger screen and faster processing is nice. Lots of speed, quick downloads and community support.
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I own two Captivates and a Nexus One. I would not recommend switching to Samsung. I have been so dissatisfied with my Captivate that I am holding out on my upgrade and passing up the SGS2 and Skyrocket in hopes that HTC will deliver something of decent quality on ATT. I've even contemplated switching my main phone back to the Nexus One until something better arrives.
The fact that I'm still stuck on Froyo is absolutely ridiculous. If the Captivate was a low grade phone that would be one story. But the Galaxy S line was a premier lineup when it was released. If you want to feel cheated by a company, join up with Samsung.
Yes there are custom ROMs but without the release of source code they all have problems and bugs. I ran GB through Apex for a long time but eventually got tired of the phone dialer apk crashing every day. Also, some people can't use custom ROMs due to work and Android development is important to them.
I'll admit there are things I like about my Cappy: Super AMOLED screen, screen size, overall smooth performance, plenty of dev work on Samsung phones. But the lack of Android support by Samsung, the poor GPS performance with no fix, and the random shut down problems left a very bad taste in my mouth.
Not to mention, the nice feel of a sturdy metal HTC phone is miles beyond the cheap plastic feel of a Samsung phone. Just trying to give my 2 cents. I'd be glad to share any of my experiences in as much of a non biased way as I can.
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I agree with that but they are mostly made of plastic. I still prefer HTC phones because of the aluminum unibody build and sleek design.
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i have had great luck with the tmo sgs2. it's build quality, though plastic, it quite good.
imho

Yeah, I'm waiting for a good HTC phone to come out to replace my N1. I can't stand the plasticy feel of the SGII or the Galaxy Nexus.

Hopefully, we'll see something good from HTC during CES next week. I've heard rumors of a quad-core HTC phone. Let's hope so.

I had the Samsung Galaxy S II LTE from Rogers and the phone felt so plasticky. There's nothing appealing about Samsung devices. Their RF and call quality are poor. I ended up getting the HTC Amaze and I have no regrets. The build quality on the Amaze trumps any Samsung. Call quality & RF is much better. I'm hoping HTC will announce the rumored HTC Edge quad-core next week. It's too bad Google switched to Samsung to make their devices. I'm not impressed with the build quality of the Galaxy Nexus. It feels plasticky. I prefer the solid feel of a device even if it weighs more.

I will at least concede that the plastic was sturdier than I thought. I've had my Captivate since July 2010 and it has survived some big falls and hits. However, the lack of support from Samsung is just too much for me to overcome.

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Hopefully, we'll see something good from HTC during CES next week. I've heard rumors of a quad-core HTC phone. Let's hope so.
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I've seen some rumors that would point to this as well but I have a feeling it will still be a plastic styled phone. It wasn't until late December when HTC announced they were going to change their focus in 2012 to produce better quality builds and get away from the cheap feeling phones. I find it hard to believe they would wait so long for that announcement and then have a non-plastic phone at CES.
But who knows...if they do, I will be excited. I just sold my Nexus One today and it hurt a little inside. Such a good phone with a great feel and quality build. Would love to have another HTC in my pocket to replace the Samsung.

HTC vs. Samsung
body vs. screen
looks vs. graphics performance
I'm waiting for the coming wave. The OG Droid opened the doors for the 2010 wave, but the N1 was the best buy two years ago because it was the first that could stand in line with the new wave of superphones (1 GHz, OLED, etc.). The GN may have started the new wave of 2012, but it's not gonna stand with the rest of the quad-cores (and it's missing external storage?!??!).
I'm still waiting. Next wave is a new day for competition between HTC and Samsung. I'm excited.

WiW said:
HTC vs. Samsung
body vs. screen
looks vs. graphics performance
I'm waiting for the coming wave. The OG Droid opened the doors for the 2010 wave, but the N1 was the best buy two years ago because it was the first that could stand in line with the new wave of superphones (1 GHz, OLED, etc.). The GN may have started the new wave of 2012, but it's not gonna stand with the rest of the quad-cores (and it's missing external storage?!??!).
I'm still waiting. Next wave is a new day for competition between HTC and Samsung. I'm excited.
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Agreed, Tegra 3 phones may start the new wave with the 5th low power core. Seems fairly revolutionary to me.

A friend has a galaxy note and loves it. The fonts are larger on the home screen for vision impaired. This week is CES so maybe HTC will have some surprises.
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Yeah, I'm waiting for a good HTC phone to come out to replace my N1. I can't stand the plasticy feel of the SGII or the Galaxy Nexus.
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Well HTC released the amazed 4g great looks and build quality. Now if your waiting for a HTC with plain android you might have to wait a while.

NEVER! Their phones are made of cheap plastic. After spending so much on a phone, you atleast would like to get a good feel of the phone....not like the ones samsung makes.
HTC Rocks....All time!!! They know how to make phones.

I switched from my much loved N1 to the Galaxy Nexus, and I'm pleasantly surprised! There are things about the GN I don't care for, but I can't see me switching back...

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I switched from my much loved N1 to the Galaxy Nexus, and I'm pleasantly surprised! There are things about the GN I don't care for, but I can't see me switching back...
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Can you elaborate?
Specifically, does it fit in your pocket? front pant's pocket? (trousers )
Which case do you use?
Thanks

I don't use a case, and it fits in my pocket perfectly. In fact, I had an issue with the N1 falling horizontal in my pocket, which was uncomfortable - I no longer have that issue.
Build quality looks great, though I do love the N1 more. Feel is much better on the GN, much more responsive, and smooth - but then again, what would you expect for the specs?
The LED notifications aren't as cool as the N1, and the lack of trackball can be a pain...

tried the gn at verizon as i am only a year into 2 year tmo contract, can't buy
loved size and text reading
build seemed ok, not as good as n1--but it was strapped down
8-13 mb dl's on speedteast
no smoother than n1 ics rom i am on--imho
faster webbrowsing--but seemed no faster than my wifi which clocks in at 4-5mb
didn't like menu buttons
when scrolling there is a jitter and out of focus look, then it refocuses
will look at sgsII at tmo, but will, with contract restrictions, probably be looking at quads

It's certainly not way ahead of the pack, like the N1 was when it was released (and for a long time afterwards)...
People are reporting 10 - 15 mb downloads on 4g, but it never get anything like that in this area (with 5 different phones)
I recommend you ditch the contract with T-Mo if you can. No contact options are about $20 a month less than contact, which is $480 over the 2 year duration. Just a suggestion...

thanks DR
I have 3 phones on the contract, may not be financially smart atm
will look into it--was hoping for tmo to pick it up--like the speed and large text
do you have the scroll jitter and focus issue I described, may be normal
was looking at new blaze coming to tmo also--42mb phone
http://wirelessandmobilenews.com/2012/01/samsung-galaxy-blaze-4g-hd-spec-revealed-nexus-hd.html
but as you know, the n1 seems ageless with running ics now--tough choices

Help me decide between the Galaxy Nexus and 4G LTE

My upgrade is in october, but I'm fairly certain I could convince sprint to cut me some slack. Basically, for the past year or so I've used CM7 on my Evo. I like the full customization available in a stock rom. I'm sure CM9 will be available for both of the phones I'm considering at some point, but that will kill the sense features like the amazing new camera which I feel like I need (most of my photos are in doors in low light situations). The evo seems to have better specs over all, bigger screen, off screen buttons (positive), better screen, sexier more resilient built, and I could always use a custom launcher to get my customization on.
The main thing I think I'm missing with both phones are the quick widgets from CM7 - where you pull down the notification bar and there are some quick settings buttons. I really, really like and feel like I need that. Do either phones have that built in? I know the evo will last me longer and be the same price with upgrade. Any tips? Thanks.

Ice Cream Sandwich provides the quick widgets/settings I believe by default. So I think both phones will have that.
Can anyone verify that to be true? Unless that only works with pure ICS, in which case you should get the Nexus. I'm definitely going with the EVO though, those hardware specs are outstanding. And it is pretty sexy too.
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If my memory serves me right, I do not believe that the Galaxy Nexus has Quick Settings enabled in the drop-down notification bar. Sense 4.0, it has ditched the Quick Settings thing too, unfortunately, according to screenshots I've seen.
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Software:
Galaxy Nexus - Vanilla ICS.
LTEvo - ICS, Sense 4.0 - Sense 4.0 review here.
Winner: LTEvo. I do like the few tweaks that HTC has included with Sense 4.0 and it does not appear to be extremely heavy.
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Build Quality:
Galaxy Nexus - Plastic. It feels a little awkward to hold in one hand and reach across the screen.
LTEvo - Black aluminum and plastic. Reviews say that it is "svelte" and fits well in the hand.
Winner: LTEvo. However, I do wish the whole body was aluminum with the Micro Arc Oxidation treatment (One S). Or at least the plastic was replaced with polycarbonate (One X). The Galaxy Nexus is a bit awkward in the hand and it's fully plastic.
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Processor:
Galaxy Nexus - 1.2 GHz TI OMAP 4460 (dual-core, Cortex-A9, 45nm)
LTEvo - 1.5 GHz Qualcomm MSM8960 "Krait" "S4" (dual-core, Cortex-A15, 28nm), integrated LTE
Winner: LTEvo. The Krait S4 chip is a beast from what I seen, and can handle anything thrown at it. Cortext-A15 and 28nm = less heat, less battery usage. The OMAP is simply aging.
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Other Internals:
Galaxy Nexus - PowerVR SGX540 GPU, 1 GB RAM
LTEvo - Adreno 225 GPU, 1 GB RAM
Winner: LTEvo. The PowerVR the Nexus packs is aged (hint: it's the same one as the one in the OG Galaxy S). I do wish the LTEvo had the Adreno 320 GPU, but I'm sure the 225 can handle well.
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Screen:
Galaxy Nexus - 4.65" Super Amoled Screen, PenTile, 720p resolution, 316 ppi (claimed), 200 ppi (realistic - PenTile)
LTEvo - 4.7" Super LCD 2 Screen, non-PenTile, 720p resolution, 312 ppi
Winner: LTEvo. Non-PenTile, larger screen? That 4.65" on the Galaxy Nexus includes the on-screen "softkeys" while the 4.7" on the LTEvo does not.
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Storage:
Galaxy Nexus - 32 GB internal, no microSD slot
LTEvo - 16 GB internal, microSD slot
Winner: LTEvo. Expandable storage = win. Yes, you can use Dropbox and such, but that is online storage.
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Battery:
Galaxy Nexus - 1850 mAh, removable
LTEvo - 2000 mAh, non-removable
Winner: Galaxy Nexus. While the LTEvo has the larger battery, it is non-removable. While the Galaxy Nexus has a smaller battery, it is removable, giving you the option of an extended battery.
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Camera:
Galaxy Nexus -
5 MP rear, 1080p recording @ 24 fps, single flash
1.3 MP front, 720p recording @30 fps
LTEvo -
8 MP rear, 1080p recording @ 30 fps, single flash, backside illumination, dedicated ImageChip
1.3 MP front, 720p recording @ ? fps
Winner: LTEvo. The Galaxy Nexus camera is obviously lacking.

How much will the LTEvo cost and when is it available?
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Art2Fly said:
How much will the LTEvo cost and when is it available?
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199 with a two year agreement
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How do you plan on getting the early upgrade from sprint? I'm in the exact same boat as you and I'm itching to upgrade...
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disastar said:
How do you plan on getting the early upgrade from sprint? I'm in the exact same boat as you and I'm itching to upgrade...
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Buy up program, Depending on how far out from your upgrade you are and how your account standing is.
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Buy up program, Depending on how far out from your upgrade you are and how your account standing is.
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So you pay the $100 etf (assuming four months away from an upgrade) and then get a subsidy priced phone?
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The LTEVO is the better choice, IMO. Here's why:
Screen - same resolution but Galaxy Nexus has AMOLED and LTEVO has SLCD2
CPU - Galaxy Nexus has an "old" TI 1.2; LTEVO has the new Snapdragon S4
Camera - Galaxy Nexus 5 MP and it sucks (read the many reviews around the web); HTC 8MP with dedicated processor is amazing
Storage - Galaxy Nexus does not support removable storage; LTEVO does (which is actually one of the few things it has from its cousin, the HTC ONE X).
To sum it all up, the Galaxy Nexus is an older phone. Get the LTEVO.

I have/had a crap ton of phones. My favorite Android phones thus far have been the N1 and NS4G. Why? Because it was updated immediately, and even when it wasn't first in line, it still ran Custom ROMs very smoothly with everything working because of AOSP and more open drivers.
The NS4G was/is a old phone and I choose it over the GS2 (which I had sitting on my desk unused) as my main android phone. Hell, with ICS it was faster, but above all, it was always relevant. The GS2 was exciting for about 1-2 months and now its irrelevant. The One X / EVO LTE will be the same. Jellybean will be announced soon, the GN will be relevant and the excitement over the new shiny phones will die down and their communities will be "enjoying" half working ROMs.
Many won't agree with me but I'd never recommend anyone a non Nexus phone. Software is key, especially when we're running low demanding mobile apps.
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Award Tour said:
I have/had a crap ton of phones. My favorite Android phones thus far have been the N1 and NS4G. Why? Because it was updated immediately, and even when it wasn't first in line, it still ran Custom ROMs very smoothly with everything working because of AOSP and more open drivers.
The NS4G was/is a old phone and I choose it over the GS2 (which I had sitting on my desk unused) as my main android phone. Hell, with ICS it was faster, but above all, it was always relevant. The GS2 was exciting for about 1-2 months and now its irrelevant. The One X / EVO LTE will be the same. Jellybean will be announced soon, the GN will be relevant and the excitement over the new shiny phones will die down and their communities will be "enjoying" half working ROMs.
Many won't agree with me but I'd never recommend anyone a non Nexus phone. Software is key, especially when we're running low demanding mobile apps.
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Yeah I'll go ahead and be the first to completely disagree there. I will always choose hardware over software when choosing a phone. I mean, look what the EVO 4G is now? My phone still outdoes almost every phone I see in the public. It isn't a Nexus, yet has phenomenal development, and these "half working" ROMs are superior to the actual Google releases in speed and battery life, so unless you are so camera dependent that you can't live with a temporary lack of camera usage, you're golden.
And as far as Jelly Bean, I anticipated that being a small upgrade anyway, like iPhone 4 to 4s. ICS is barely rolling out, no way JB makes a huge splash in quarter 4. And I'm sure our amazing devs who have made the longevity of this phone much higher than intended by HTC will do an equally incredible job on the LTE.
So no, I will take my EVO LTE over the dated Nexus. No offense, just my opinion.
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Yeah I'll go ahead and be the first to completely disagree there. I will always choose hardware over software when choosing a phone. I mean, look what the EVO 4G is now? My phone still outdoes almost every phone I see in the public. It isn't a Nexus, yet has phenomenal development, and these "half working" ROMs are superior to the actual Google releases in speed and battery life, so unless you are so camera dependent that you can't live with a temporary lack of camera usage, you're golden.
And as far as Jelly Bean, I anticipated that being a small upgrade anyway, like iPhone 4 to 4s. ICS is barely rolling out, no way JB makes a huge splash in quarter 4. And I'm sure our amazing devs who have made the longevity of this phone much higher than intended by HTC will do an equally incredible job on the LTE.
So no, I will take my EVO LTE over the dated Nexus. No offense, just my opinion.
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Huh. I have a old EVO 4G lying around. I loaded a ICS rom on it about 5 weeks ago out of curiosity. It ran like a absolute dog. Why? No GPU acceleration. The 4G always had a horrible GPU, even on day 1, but WP7 proved that it was capable of more. That said, the fault was in the software/drivers. A problem Nexus devices don't suffer as much from.
If we put the NS and EVO 4G side by side, it's a no contest. Hell, up until Sunday I choose the NS4G over my Epic 4G Touch. I have no doubt that I'll feel the same about the next super phone I buy on impulse (vs the GN). It just isn't worth it, he'll I buy new phones almost every 2-3 months and I still fall back to the Nexus. If my ATT N1 ran on Sprint (or If the iPhone never existed) my EVO would have stayed in the box way back when. If you own as many gadgets as I do you'd see the same.

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Huh. I have a old EVO 4G lying around. I loaded a ICS rom on it about 5 weeks ago out of curiosity. It ran like a absolute dog. Why? No GPU acceleration. The 4G always had a horrible GPU, even on day 1, but WP7 proved that it was capable of more. That said, the fault was in the software/drivers. A problem Nexus devices don't suffer as much from.
If we put the NS and EVO 4G side by side, it's a no contest. Hell, up until Sunday I choose the NS4G over my Epic 4G Touch. I have no doubt that I'll feel the same about the next super phone I buy on impulse (vs the GN). It just isn't worth it, he'll I buy new phones almost every 2-3 months and I still fall back to the Nexus. If my ATT N1 ran on Sprint (or If the iPhone never existed) my EVO would have stayed in the box way back when. If you own as many gadgets as I do you'd see the same.
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But that was 5 weeks ago.
If I was you I would go to the store and try both of them out and see which one you like best. I'm going for the EVO because I'm one of those Sense fans.
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And If they dont cut you any slack by October. I'll would wait until the next generation. The Nexus would probably be out in a month or two. Every manufacture flagship would be right around the corner.

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Huh. I have a old EVO 4G lying around. I loaded a ICS rom on it about 5 weeks ago out of curiosity. It ran like a absolute dog. Why? No GPU acceleration. The 4G always had a horrible GPU, even on day 1, but WP7 proved that it was capable of more. That said, the fault was in the software/drivers. A problem Nexus devices don't suffer as much from.
If we put the NS and EVO 4G side by side, it's a no contest. Hell, up until Sunday I choose the NS4G over my Epic 4G Touch. I have no doubt that I'll feel the same about the next super phone I buy on impulse (vs the GN). It just isn't worth it, he'll I buy new phones almost every 2-3 months and I still fall back to the Nexus. If my ATT N1 ran on Sprint (or If the iPhone never existed) my EVO would have stayed in the box way back when. If you own as many gadgets as I do you'd see the same.
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My phone runs like a dog on steroids man. AOKP and Deck are doing AMAZING work. Not sure what you attempted. But two each his own. I've played with many phones, although not owned them, so I have some idea what's out there. I'll take my EVO 4G LTE for build quality, hardware, looks, camera, camera button, kickstand, etc. No competition for me. And honestly, Sense 4.0 looks quite nice.

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But that was 5 weeks ago.
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Well, has it changed? Doubt it, but that's besides the point. The Nexus S was running a HW accelerated ICS build since the SDK port. The SDK port. That was a long, long time ago.

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Well, has it changed? Doubt it, but that's besides the point. The Nexus S was running a HW accelerated ICS build since the SDK port. The SDK port. That was a long, long time ago.
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Of course its change. Its way faster and smoother than it was. Development is still very good for this phone. I do see what you saying with the developent of the Nexus devices. AOSP always will run better with a Nexus device and with google being open source its easier for devs or at least I would assume it is. If software isnt the biggest deal for him than the easy choice would be the EVO based on hardware alone. That should be expected for a phone launching 6 months later.

Here, read this:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...mance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/2
Interesting look at the amazing performance of the new processor. Blows everything out of the water including Nexus, iPhone, etc.

I went with the nexus. Sprint gave me the upgrade and I'm paying 145 total
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I went with the nexus. Sprint gave me the upgrade and I'm paying 145 total
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Thanks for the update! Anything in particular influence you to make that decision other than the price? I only ask since many will be making a similar decision now.
Also, first impressions of phone? I'm sure it's awesome, but anything other than that?

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I went with the nexus. Sprint gave me the upgrade and I'm paying 145 total
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How'd you get it for 145?! The upgrade price was 199 I thought. cuz I am kinda interested in it. Tried to go look at one today, but ran out of time.
from my 2yr old ICS Evo

Possibly looking at the GS3, would like some opinions

I have a friend who is letting me use the upgrade on their line at the end of September to get a phone so I can keep my unlimited. As it sits right now I have a Galaxy Nexus. I love the phone but want something with newer tech. I had a few questions though.
The first being battery life of the phone compared to the GNex. I'm not at all satisfied with the performance of the Nexus regarding the battery. I average under 2 hours screen time and medium usage, and that sort of stinks. Since the S3 has the same size battery as my extended I have now, is the batter life good in those regards?
Secondly there are some good looking phones coming down the line. I'm a picky person when it comes to screens. Is the quality good regarding the screen? I have some burn in on my nexus and I don't know how the S3 is. Also, the nexus has an annoying issue where the screen loses sensitivity after a while. Does that happen on the S3 as well?
Would I be better waiting for the Note 2, RAZR maxx HD, or the HTC device or getting the S3?
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Here's my personal opinion;
If you're looking for newer tech, why don't you wait for the new Nexus phone(s) coming around December? The S3 is bound to lag behind upcoming phones because technology is moving really fast.
Since the Galaxy S3 has the same screen as the Galaxy Nexus, it is bound to be affected by screen burns after a year or more. The screen quality is excellent but Super AMOLED screens are prone to burn-ins. The Note 2 has a better screen, in my opinion.
The battery life of the S3 is superb! Really. My friend's Nexus doesn't last long at all whilst my S3 can last for a long time!
Stick with the Nexus for now.

Thanks for the honest responses. I wish more companies would follow HTC and use super LCD2, the screen is awesome and crystal clear. I like the note 2 but I fear it might be just too big.
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Just wait a bit for the optimus g or a bit more for the new nexus. The sg3 is great, but there are going to be a few better choises very soon, at least hardware-wise. Then razr maxx hd looks promising, It might be a good bet considering the google acquisition of moto...

I have never been a fan of LG, they always seem to be lacking. I heard a rumor about the new nexus being the 5 inch phablet from HTC. Not sure how I feel about having a super big phone. I'll have to check out the note 2 to figure out if I could handle it.
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I have never been a fan of LG, they always seem to be lacking. I heard a rumor about the new nexus being the 5 inch phablet from HTC. Not sure how I feel about having a super big phone. I'll have to check out the note 2 to figure out if I could handle it.
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The razr maxx hd looks nice on videos and articles, but Its a bit thick and has a dual core cpu. Lg makes great hardware, but I've never liked the software and slow updates. There are probably going to be other devices with a s4 pro(quadcore) chip soon I would wait and go for one of those.

SGS3 is awesome... Best phone I ever had (and I had quite a few..).
Battery lasts me all day (just email, browsing & reading newsfeeds), no problem. Screen is nice, no complaints. The S3 is just gorgeous and really speedy. I use mine with a 64GB SD-Card, which is the reason why I passed on the GNex.. I need storage space for movies and music!
Best of all, I hook my S3 up to my 42in flatscreen TV (LG), and the picture is nice and crisp...
Did I already suggest you should get an S3 (Quad core)?
Sure, there will always be better & faster phones coming out, but this one just has everything you (probably) want.
Just one thing I really hate about the S3: the physical 'Home' button. HTC did that better on the Rezound (a crappy phone w/ a nice screen...), even though those morons gave it 4 buttons. - How dumb is that?
I certainly will never get another HTC as long as 'Sense' is around - even though I used to root all my phones and put Custom ROMs (preferably CM) on them anyway...
However, I have to admit that after using Samsung TouchWiz (in JB flavor) for the last 6-8 weeks, I have no desire switching to some always half-broken CM ROM anymore.
With TW, at least, all the features work.. right away!!!
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Isnt there a new HTC one x5 coming out? (seeing as you said you like htc screens, this ones meant to be 5 inches and full 1080p) could be just a rumour but have a look: http://blog.gsmarena.com/the-htc-5-phablet-to-be-the-google-nexus-5/

I am having this phone and after using a store model I found it pretty smooth.

i have to honestly say this phone is amazing. not a single fault with it.
its heavily supported by the community, paranoid android is amazing too. etc etc etc.
but as always, just look at what you need. theres never any point looking for the greatest tech, because another this or that will come along in a month and be the new 'best'.
for me, external SD card was a must, removable battery is always nice, etc etc.
either take the dive and get an S3 which will be a really really solid phone for the next 12 months and probably longer, or wait another 6 and get the next big thing, be it nexus, galaxy, HTC <insert name here>... but just make sure it does what you need (and with the number of custom roms out there, this is becoming more and more flexible)

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i have to honestly say this phone is amazing. not a single fault with it.
its heavily supported by the community, paranoid android is amazing too. etc etc etc.
but as always, just look at what you need. theres never any point looking for the greatest tech, because another this or that will come along in a month and be the new 'best'.
for me, external SD card was a must, removable battery is always nice, etc etc.
either take the dive and get an S3 which will be a really really solid phone for the next 12 months and probably longer, or wait another 6 and get the next big thing, be it nexus, galaxy, HTC <insert name here>... but just make sure it does what you need (and with the number of custom roms out there, this is becoming more and more flexible)
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Same here, this phone is great, lots of fun and also needed an SD card and battery I could swap. Nothing worse than arriving somewhere and having to wait for the phone to charge!

I was thinking of jumping from the Sensation 4G with Tmo to the GS3 since they are offering an upgrade 2 months early...I think I will stay with my rooted Sensation a bit longer its awesome anyways but I think Tmo will be getting a new line up before Christmas...Im considering the Note 2 but it may be too big Im not sure yet...just dont wanna waste an upgrade and a month later the lastest and greatest hit the market....
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A lot comes down to personal preference.
Like the first reply said why not wait until december.
I had the Galaxy S3 and I hated it.
Found it very uncomfortable to use. Impossible to operate in one had. I would try it out yourself, i wish i did, its not as smooth as everyone makes out. However, i was advised to do lots of things to it which would have made it smooth like rooting etc (i couldn't be bothered with the hassle of that)
Screen is very good but not as good as other phones and its really bad in sunlight. Almost unusable.
Dont know what battery other people have got but its not very good. You wouldn't get through a day with it thats for sure. Android fans had a tough time over the years with battery but this is an improvement.
Also, the device is not very pretty as others seem to think. Again this is personal preference. Its very plasticy and flimsy. One drop and its dead. Poor build quality.
As you can see my post is very negative due to the experience I had with it. Personally, if your an android fan wait til december.

The opposite of what he ^ said.
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antdawe said:
A lot comes down to personal preference.
Like the first reply said why not wait until december.
I had the Galaxy S3 and I hated it.
Found it very uncomfortable to use. Impossible to operate in one had. I would try it out yourself, i wish i did, its not as smooth as everyone makes out. However, i was advised to do lots of things to it which would have made it smooth like rooting etc (i couldn't be bothered with the hassle of that)
Screen is very good but not as good as other phones and its really bad in sunlight. Almost unusable.
Dont know what battery other people have got but its not very good. You wouldn't get through a day with it thats for sure. Android fans had a tough time over the years with battery but this is an improvement.
Also, the device is not very pretty as others seem to think. Again this is personal preference. Its very plasticy and flimsy. One drop and its dead. Poor build quality.
As you can see my post is very negative due to the experience I had with it. Personally, if your an android fan wait til december.
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An opinion, that most people do not share. I would just wait for the next Nexus or look at what HTC is brining out. Something tells me the new Nexus phone may be a disappointment, I do hope I'm wrong though