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All;
I'm trying to find a straight answer on US carrier support for the HD. So far; I've read that there is:
1)No support for the HD in the US
2)Support for GSM only in the US
3)Possible support for 3G depending on your area
4)Working 3G support in some areas
So; what's the deal here? Do we have a "CONFIRMED" working HD in the US? The questions I'd like to have answered in one thread if possible:
1)What carriers are people currently using SUCCESSFULLY with the HD?
1a)What area is that working in?
2)How is the internet speed on it?
2a)If 3G is working, what kind of speed differences are you seeing?
2b)If 3G is working, what area are you in that it works for you?
3)If it is working for you in any form; were custom ROMS needed; or any sort of hack short of plugging in your SIM card?
3a)If needed; links would be great!
4)Any reported and confirmed 'show-stopping' bugs / problems using the HD in the US.
5)Any items or information we need to be aware of when trying to purchase this phone for US use? (Don't buy from EU...don't buy from AUS, avoid certain model versions...etc?)
Answers so far ((so you don't have to go searching for them!))
1) T-Mobile & ATT
1a) Wisconsin -ATT | Chicago - ATT
2) Edge = ok
2a) No - Wisconsin, Chicago
2b)
3) No hacks needed - plug in SIM card, possibly might have to select network from list
3a)
4) Problems sending MMS on AT&T. 99% send then fail.
5)
I'm using T-Mobile in the US.
Didn't have to do ANYTHING special at all to get it running. Stuck in my tmobile sim, it asked which carrier I wanted to use (T-Mobile US or Tuyo or something like that). I selected tmobile and wala.
Don't know about 3G as I do not have a data plan right now (it's $25 / month and I have Wi-Fi 88% of the time).
Have flashed and hard-resetted many times since with no problems.
ONLY PROBLEM: MMS will not work. I have searched all over and made sure that I have all the correct settings. However it will not work no matter what I try. Sending usually makes it to 99% then fails. Sucks.
ismisunderstood said:
All;
I'm trying to find a straight answer on US carrier support for the HD. So far; I've read that there is:
1)No support for the HD in the US
2)Support for GSM only in the US
3)Possible support for 3G depending on your area
4)Working 3G support in some areas
So; what's the deal here? Do we have a "CONFIRMED" working HD in the US? The questions I'd like to have answered in one thread if possible:
1)What carriers are people currently using SUCCESSFULLY with the HD?
1a)What area is that working in?
2)How is the internet speed on it?
2a)If 3G is working, what kind of speed differences are you seeing?
2b)If 3G is working, what area are you in that it works for you?
3)If it is working for you in any form; were custom ROMS needed; or any sort of hack short of plugging in your SIM card?
3a)If needed; links would be great!
4)Any reported and confirmed 'show-stopping' bugs / problems using the HD in the US.
5)Any items or information we need to be aware of when trying to purchase this phone for US use? (Don't buy from EU...don't buy from AUS, avoid certain model versions...etc?)
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The HD will work in the US on either T-Mobile or ATT.
I am using ATT in Wisconsin and can confirm the phone will not pick of 3G.
EDGE internet speeds are pretty good. I wouldn't go streaming youtube, however. Wifi is around in more places than you think...
I'm using the ROM that came on the phone. I popped in my ATT sim card and all the settings were detected and it worked in a matter of 30 seconds.
I am in Chicago area on AT&T and it works fine. No 3G data but edge is fine. I am streaming video using a slingbox and it works ok.
Hardice33 said:
The HD will work in the US on either T-Mobile or ATT.
I am using ATT in Wisconsin and can confirm the phone will not pick of 3G.
EDGE internet speeds are pretty good. I wouldn't go streaming youtube, however. Wifi is around in more places than you think...
I'm using the ROM that came on the phone. I popped in my ATT sim card and all the settings were detected and it worked in a matter of 30 seconds.
It's not the phone that won't pick up 3G but the lack of a network or cell masts transmitting a 3G/HSDPA signal. So people,lets not blame the phone if you subscribe to inadequate networks. 3G has been around for over 10 years. I can't believe americans still need a tutorial.
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Canaan said:
It's not the phone that won't pick up 3G but the lack of a network or cell masts transmitting a 3G/HSDPA signal. So people,lets not blame the phone if you subscribe to inadequate networks. 3G has been around for over 10 years. I can't believe americans still need a tutorial.
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it's both the phone and network's fault, the phone for not having UMTS 850, 1700, or 1900. And the networks for choosing those frequencies over umts 900 and 2100.
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Hardice33 said:
The HD will work in the US on either T-Mobile or ATT.
I am using ATT in Wisconsin and can confirm the phone will not pick of 3G.
EDGE internet speeds are pretty good. I wouldn't go streaming youtube, however. Wifi is around in more places than you think...
I'm using the ROM that came on the phone. I popped in my ATT sim card and all the settings were detected and it worked in a matter of 30 seconds.
It's not the phone that won't pick up 3G but the lack of a network or cell masts transmitting a 3G/HSDPA signal. So people,lets not blame the phone if you subscribe to inadequate networks. 3G has been around for over 10 years. I can't believe americans still need a tutorial.
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Wow, a little full of yourself there? It's not like I climbed towers and decided to put 850 bands in America.
I believe if I made a $750 purchase, I would know whether or not the phone was capable of picking up US 3G bands or not.
But I guess your right, I should move to Europe to take advantage of the "adequate" networks.
There is no need to be a jerk about it.
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I'm using mine on ATT, use mostly wifi which has been good, EDGE is good the few times I've used it (based on what I've heard from people using 3G on other phones, it's not that much better than wifi, but I'm sure that's location dependent). I'm using it in NC and surrounding states, have only sent/received MMS a couple of times but haven't had any problems yet. Didn't have to do anything except insert the SIM and choose ATT. I haven't seen the 3G icon pop up so that means no 3G compatibility where I'm at.
TMobile USA is great
I am an airline pilot and use my HD nationwide and it works splendidly in every city I have been to. EDGE is much, much better than GPRS that I had on my Imate Jasjar (Universal) but I would agree that the only drawback is to streaming YouTube. YouTube on EDGE is functional but it uses the lower quality mode.
I am successfully using MMS on TMo here in the USA so any trouble with it might just be a setting that needs to be tweaked. Having had some trouble with that on my JasJar in the past I just set it up manually and did just that when I got the HD. I didn't even try the default MMS settings, just deleted them and put my own in that I knew worked.
As for 3G, didn't work on my JasJar and not on my HD but for me it turns out to not be a deal breaker at all. Having had four different WM devices over 6 years, the HD is blowing me away. I really love it's speed, screen and size. HTC did a really nice (not great) job with the TouchFlo UI and hope that a few updates will make it great. Now that I installed the new Resco Explorer (GSFinder before) I don't need to use the stylus at all! I like that the most.
For those of you in the USA, give TMobile a try. I don't think you would be unhappy with their service and pricing.
Regards,
Gordo
I'm using iWireless (Owned by Tmobile) in Iowa. No problems getting it to work like all the others here. I don't have a data plan, so haven't tested that out yet. And it's just commonly known that the HD doesn't support US 3G.
It supports 3G, but we cant use it because the antenna is set to receive 2100 and 900.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450670&page=5
jim256 said:
I'm using T-Mobile in the US.
Didn't have to do ANYTHING special at all to get it running. Stuck in my tmobile sim, it asked which carrier I wanted to use (T-Mobile US or Tuyo or something like that). I selected tmobile and wala.
Don't know about 3G as I do not have a data plan right now (it's $25 / month and I have Wi-Fi 88% of the time).
Have flashed and hard-resetted many times since with no problems.
ONLY PROBLEM: MMS will not work. I have searched all over and made sure that I have all the correct settings. However it will not work no matter what I try. Sending usually makes it to 99% then fails. Sucks.
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You may need the data plan for MMS to work properly. I have T-mobile in the US and here is what I did. I signed up for their $9 amonth TZones (now web2go) package. Don't tell them you have a "smartphone" or else you will have to really fight to get it.
It is not great. You have a choice between 100 MB a month or 50 MB and tons of messaging. Since I mostly use WiFi the 50MB was enough.
If they tell you that the $9 plan won't work on their phone, don't fall for it. It will work on any phone.
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You may need the data plan for MMS to work properly. I have T-mobile in the US and here is what I did. I signed up for their $9 amonth TZones (now web2go) package. Don't tell them you have a "smartphone" or else you will have to really fight to get it.
It is not great. You have a choice between 100 MB a month or 50 MB and tons of messaging. Since I mostly use WiFi the 50MB was enough.
If they tell you that the $9 plan won't work on their phone, don't fall for it. It will work on any phone.
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WOW. That is WAY great information to know. So the $9 / month T-Zones is REAL full data / internet browsing? Not some stupid V-Cast like thing?
I have been dying trying to figure out what to do...when I signed up I thought unlimited data was $6 / month (it was some web2go thing for $5.99), then I find out that they discontinued it right after I got my phone and it's now $25...ridiculous. So I have been wondering, should I:
A. Switch to ATT.
B. Have an HD w/ no internet plan.
C. Go back to my vogue on sprint evdo rev a fastest mobile internet in us.
Are you pretty positive about that then? I could sign up for that right now and get 50mb browsing full internet for $9 / month as long as I tell them that it isn't a smartphone?
THANK YOU SO MUCH. AWESOME information for my situation...
Jim.
Uhm... perhaps I am missing something obvious but.
If i go to phone, then select "Options", then select "Band".
I can choose between network type "GSM" or "WCDMA".
Also for GSM/UMTS band I can choose between:
1) UMTS(2100)+GSM(900+1800)
2) UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900)
3) UMTS(800+2100)
Does that option have no effect? or what?
I plan on getting one through Craigslist and will most likely be using it on Wi-Fi only.
Is there any difference between them besides the carrier markings? Which one can make voice calls after rooting?
(I'm on TMO)
If you want to make calls, you're gonna want an ATT tab. The gsm variants (att and tmob) both have 16gb of internal storage with a card slot free. The cdma variants (sprint, verizon) have 2gb of internal storage and a 16gb card. That's about the only difference between the carriers.
Bluetooth keyboard and mouse will work with the T-Mobile version.
info about devices I've gathered from these forums so far:
Verizon and Sprint have no Bluetooth HID support (this means you can't pair a mouse or keybaord - not sure about bluetooth headsets though), and VZN/Sprint only have 2GB of internal storage. tmo/att tabs have 16GB internal storage.
Tmobile has the fastest 3g data, but Verizon has the most data coverage on the continental us map, and is generally the slowest 3G data. Tmobile has the cheapest prepaid option at $10 for 7 days/150mb. ATT prepaid will cost minimum of $20 for 1 month/250mb. verizon i believe starts at $20/month, and with sprint there is no prepaid option.
Tmobile can be hacked to use voice minutes and data, but only edge works with that voice hack enabled, no 3G. You can turn off the voice hack and get 3G data speeds without resetting. ATT voice and 3G will work without the hack(still needs to be flashed though).
Sprint tablets usually sells for the cheapest. AT&T tablets generally sells for most expensive.
AT&T 3G also works in Europe, as well as tmobile 3g.
Tmobile has the most search results in the galaxy tab forum, tmobile is mentioned twice as much as any of the other carriers.
GSM models have more xda development support than CDMA.
As stated previously, there is no switch hacking necessary for the modem on the AT&T model if you want to use voice minutes. Just flash rom, modem and go. If you have the euro version you don't even need to flash to use this capability. Tmobile, on the other hand, requires a switch hack in order to use minutes from your plan.
Tmobile is a great choice if you don't plan on using it as a phone, and are in an area with 3G coverage. Tmobile is an ok choice if you do plan to use voice minutes. Note that in order to use voice with 3G on AT&T, you need to have a contract plan which starts at $55/month. Some people don't use the phone minutes but instead use skype or some other VOIP service over 3G. For VOIP in the continental US, Tmobile is probably the better choice due to faster speeds if you're not moving around too much. IF you plan on traveling all over the place then ATT is probably the better choice.
with ATT and tmobile you can surf 3G AND talk at the same time when using cellular voice minutes. you cannot talk and surf at the same time with EDGE.
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AT&T 3G also works in Europe. Tmobile tab will not have 3G in Europe, only edge.
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Small correction here - TMo US Tab *does* have 3G in Europe.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Small correction here - TMo US Tab *does* have 3G in Europe.
Regards,
Dave
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thanks for pointing that out. after researching it more it looks like there is confusion with tmobile because in the U.S. tmobile uses 1700 frequency AND 2100 frequency, and in europe/asia it's just the 2100 frequency that is used.
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info about devices I've gathered from these forums so far:
Tmobile has the fastest 3g data.....
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I have a Droid X (Verizon) and a Galaxy Tablet (T-Mobile). Here's what I've observed. Verizon's 3G service coverage is pretty much everywhere. I can't find anywhere that I don't have 3G with the Droid X. T-Mobile's 3G coverage is more limited. For example, I work in Greensboro, NC and live in Burlington, NC. I have 3G coverage in Greensboro but lose it and go on EDGE when I get to Burlington. However, in the places where I have 3G with T-Mobile, it's 3 - 6 times faster than Verizon's. It really smokes.....where it's available. If they could get their coverage as widespread as Verizon's, they would definitely be the carrier of choice.
One additional observation....about a mile from my home in Burlington, there's a T-Mobile store. They've got all kinds of flyers in their windows about how fast their 3G and 4G speeds are. Interesting thing is that where this store is located and for about 12 miles going towards Greensboro, you don't have anything but EDGE. So, if you go into the store and want to see an example of their "blazing speeds" they can't provide it....unless they're doing it with WiFi and fooling the customer.
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I have a Droid X (Verizon) and a Galaxy Tablet (T-Mobile). Here's what I've observed. Verizon's 3G service coverage is pretty much everywhere. I can't find anywhere that I don't have 3G with the Droid X. T-Mobile's 3G coverage is more limited. For example, I work in Greensboro, NC and live in Burlington, NC. I have 3G coverage in Greensboro but lose it and go on EDGE when I get to Burlington. However, in the places where I have 3G with T-Mobile, it's 3 - 6 times faster than Verizon's. It really smokes.....where it's available. If they could get their coverage as widespread as Verizon's, they would definitely be the carrier of choice.
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Well said, lack of 3G coverage is one of the reasons I did not go with a Tmobile Tab. I was going to originally pick up a verizon model since it seems to work in more places. Unfortunately the lack of Bluetooth HID support and no coverage in europe forced me to avoid VZW. ATT has more 3G coverage than tmobile and has the option of voice with 3G, so I went that route.
here are two up to date maps of current 3G coverage, ATT vs Tmobile:
TMobile:
http://www.cellularmaps.com/image/tm_3g_10c.jpg
ATT:
http://www.cellularmaps.com/image/att_3g_11a.jpg
as you can see ATT is the clear winner here, for now.
for reference, here's verizon's 3G coverage:
http://www.cellularmaps.com/image/vzw_3g_c.jpg
So I'm from Belgium, Europe but am going to study at Northwest Missouri State University from January till the end of April, but of course I need a mobile provider while I'm there, but since I know **** about the carriers in the USA, and well, websites of the carriers don't always mention everything, I'm just asking you guys, which mobile provider and/or plan should I take for those 5 months?
I don't care if it's prepaid or a contract or whatever, as long as it stops after 5 months.
I've got a HTC Sensation, so would like some data with that.
Thanks in advance for responding!
then ur only choices here in the USA is T-Mobile or At&t. If u like to pay more u can go to att and can get 3G data due to the tmobile us frequency is 1700 so you may only get EDGE speed. But with tmobile prepaid cost $50 a month for unlimited talk text and data (i believe 2GB).
your not going to be able to get contact cuz u need a SS# and credit.
t-mobile is great since its parent company its t-mobile deucthe telcom
Sprint, never had a problem
A: Verizon
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He needs a carrier that uses GSM. Verizon and Sprint are not the droid your looking for.
It doesn't matter if it uses gsm or wcdma i bought my sensation on ebay from usa, it was branded and stuff, so i think it would work with any provider in usa.
You won't actually be able to use Verizon or Sprint with the Sensation because CDMA technology requires completely different radios. To be able to use either standard, your phone would have to be a (what CDMA providers in America call) "world phone", like the iPhone 4S or the Motorola Photon.
Since you already have a phone, you could do either a T-Mobile value plan or a Simple Mobile unlimited plan. Both run on T-Mobile's network, so the coverage should be exactly the same. T-Mobile isn't the absolute best carrier, so I'd check coverage in the area that you'll be spending the most time in. However, T-Mobile's 4G and 3G speeds are pretty good, and better than AT&T (the only major GSM alternative) in most places. I have no idea how (or even if they offer them) AT&T's SIM card-only plans work.
Thanks, I search some more and found this page:
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans
So the unlimited web & text with 100 minutes talk $30 plan would be perfect?
Even though I feel they are the better carrier, AT&T likely wouldn't be a viable option as their prepaid plans do not support smartphone as well as the others.
Postpaid could be an option, but they would likely want a cash deposit since you lack a social and credit history.
yes but NOTICE AFTER 2G tmo slows your data but ur school must have wifi networks built in so that wouldn't really be a problem and u can enable wifi calling at the store (free calls) or use google voice to call
xtrem88 said:
yes but NOTICE AFTER 2G tmo slows your data but ur school must have wifi networks built in so that wouldn't really be a problem and u can enable wifi calling at the store (free calls) or use google voice to call
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WiFi calling still uses plan minutes.
I'll probably call with skype, so that isn't a problem, I've also noticed on the tmo site that tmo has a fast mobile connection at northwest missouri state university, is this 3g?
Its 4g 21 or 42 mbps
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Hi guys,
I will be moving to the US (Chicago) next month and I have a few questions for my good Defy friends:
- Will I be able to use my unlocked Defy in the US with 3G speeds and/or HSDPA speeds?
- Is there a carrier that will let me use my phone and give me cheaper prices?
- For new voice+data plans, can I get unlimited for cheap somewhere with good coverage?
- What baseband and GPS settings should I use there?
I'm from Serbia/Europe, and I'm using my Defy with standard Central Europe baseband now and europe gps fix.
I looked around some carriers in US and I think maybe Sprint has some unlimited data plans? Could I use my Defy on their network?
Any help will be appreciated!
Cheers.
I dont see any reason why it would not work, just use correct baseband
E: also im not from usa, so i dont know about us carrier plans but as long as it is unlocked, it should work fine on Sprint network
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hsrars-d said:
I dont see any reason why it would not work, just use correct baseband
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Oh really? But which baseband to use in Baseband selection settings in CM7.2 if I want to use Sprint or Verizon or AT&T network?
There is only baseband for TMobile, but 2 or 3 of them though.
from what i know, you will need to use a GSM based operator, some operators in the USA use a system called CDMA, also your speeds may be slow to very slow on T-mobiles USA system as they use a wierd system for data, one frequency for uploads and another for downloads thats not used anywhere else.
Anotheir thing thats worth taking note of is that some US networks charge for incoming calls and texts ( or take incoming calls and texts form your alowance of minutes and texts/sms)
So you need to find an operator that uses a GSM system
you need to have your phone unlocked to work with any sim card
and you should try and find a service that deosnt charge for incoming calls and texts ( or that doesnt take these from your inclusive minutes/texts)
Proda said:
I'm from Serbia/Europe, and I'm using my Defy with standard Central Europe baseband now and europe gps fix.
I looked around some carriers in US and I think maybe Sprint has some unlimited data plans? Could I use my Defy on their network?
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If your phone is rooted (and since you're on xda I'm sure it is) install baseband switcher and download the baseband you need.
Sprint and Verizon use CDMA, so your Defy won't work with them.
T-Mobile and AT&T use GSM.
Your european Defy uses 900 and 2100 MHz for 3G. AT&T uses 850 and 1900 MHz, so you'll be stuck with their slow EDGE network.
T-Mobile uses 1700 and 2100 MHz for 3G. Their 2100 MHz band is compatible with your Defy.
If you want to use 3G on your european Defy then T-Mob is your only option.
An american contract without phone costs almost as much as a contract with a subsidized phone, so you may as well get a phone with american 3G/4G frequencies. Contractless options are ridiculously expensive with all sorts of stupidity such as "daily access fees." Prepaid texts and minutes usually have draconian expiration policies. Some carriers make you register your phones with them, and they only accept phones from a list of "approved phones." From a european point of view, american cell phone service and pricing is a mess.
Yes, my phone is rooted (the 1st day I bought it I rooted it and installed custom ROM ), and it's sim free (unlocked).
And I'm using CM7 so I have preinstalled baseband switcher.
In baseband switcher, when I go to America I have only T-mobile bands: T-mobile 3.4.2-107-9, 3.4.2-107-4 and 6.xx.0.
Which one is the best to use?
Yes I saw that it is a quite a mess with cell phone services in US. It's pretty expensive too (for plans that I have in Serbia). And one have to read all the tinny little words at the end of page (you have to pay for INCOMING SMS/MMS, or for INCOMING calls, and some stupid stuff like that)
So you suggest that I just take full pack - plan+mobile device? I saw that Verizon has the best 4G network in US. Maybe take that? Or you suggest something else? (I would like to have around 1gb of Data per month - that is UNLIMITED Data for me, and possibly free SMS and at least 300min of calls. And of course not to pay that too much - I saw some UNLIMITED Data plan in Sprint, but it is around 80$/month or more).
Now I pay 10$/month for plan that has 600mb/300minCalls/600sms.
Thanks for info one more time.
Cheers.
They will rip you off for 4G data plans. As i saw (out of curiostiy), expensive as hell.
The best way is to relax a bit and once you arrive there figure out the best solution for you and your family. It's simplier to go the brick and mortar store and discuss then to speculate here. They have some family packages that may be good.
And yes it will be better to buy a new phone with contract there. You might as well sell this Defy in Serbia. "leave old things in the past"
When you buy an american phone, Google your unlock options first. When you're back in Serbia for holidays you'll probably want to use your shiny new phone with a serbian SIM card.
Where I live carriers only lock phones on prepaid plans, but american carriers have the annoying habit of locking all their phones, even if you buy them on a two year contract.
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When you buy an american phone, Google your unlock options first. When you're back in Serbia for holidays you'll probably want to use your shiny new phone with a serbian SIM card.
Where I live carriers only lock phones on prepaid plans, but american carriers have the annoying habit of locking all their phones, even if you buy them on a two year contract.
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And Verizon is Simless as i know.
I assume you're in the US by now. Have you chosen what to do? I have a US Tmobile defy, and use tmobile prepaid service. 2gb at 4g (3g for defy) speeds then unlimited data at Edge speed is $60/month. that includes unlimited talk and txt.
I don't know which baseband is better either. I'm on 3.4.2-107-4 and haven't had any problems. I've also wondered which is better. I've thought maybe 107-4 is 2g and 107-9 is 3g? and when you switch on 2g/3g it switches itself? I really don't know though.
I wish I'm in the US now. But it seems that employers forgot about all the paperwork required to obtain working visa for US :silly:, so imo I'll be in the US around 1st of January 2013.
Then I can try to answer your questions
But I think I will buy Nexus 4 as soon as I get my 1st paycheck. :fingers-crossed:
I would prefer GSM phone so I could be able to use it when I come to Serbia on vacations. (I heard that iPhone 5 on Verizon is SIM card FREE so it is possible to use it with any GSM carrier But that is IPHONE. Who needs that! )
I still don't know which carrier I will chose. I saw one that looks nice and it is prepaid, maybe it has postpaid too (RedPocket)
I will be mostly in Chicago and Boston, so I think this carrier would be OK.
Or maybe T-mobile...
But before I buy new phone I'll have to choose SIM card to use it on my good old Defy. If you say T-mobile works for you, then I'll get that one (or this RedPocket if I find it somewhere).
HI!
I have a similar problem. I moved to the US (Chicago) for a few months. I have a defy with cm10 installed. Up to date at this point.
I bought a t-mobile prepaid simcard. I get only edge speed. According to what I read, T-mobile uses 1700MHz and 2100 MHz for the 3G. Actually both are required!
When I select baseband there are the three options for t-mob, but none of them work (at the details of the options, both 1700 and 2100 are mentioned). I also tried defy baseband switcher.
Is it even possible to use 3G on T-mobile with this phone? If yes, how?
Thanks!
"To help support the explosion of mobile Internet usage and give customers a great experience, AT&T plans to fully discontinue service on its 2G wireless networks by approximately January 1, 2017."
"AT&T expects to fully discontinue service on our 2G network by approximately January 1, 2017. As AT&T progressively frees up valuable spectrum for our mobile broadband network, we may conclude that some markets or territories need to turn down 2G service prior to the nationwide turndown."
Source -AT&T Corporate Website
This is not an AT&T thing either. T-Mobile is also in the process of turning off 2G coverage and is expected to happen around the same time.
That sticks. Time to unload all these Chinese smartwatches. At least I can use the Pine, Truesmart and Gear S.
I'm currently in the market of getting a Smart Watch/Cell Replacement with WiFi Hotspot abilities in the USA. With these new changes to both AT&T and T-Mobile, are there any Smart Watch/Cell Replacements that work in the USA? And with what carrier?
Rodimus80 said:
I'm currently in the market of getting a Smart Watch/Cell Replacement with WiFi Hotspot abilities in the USA. With these new changes to both AT&T and T-Mobile, are there any Smart Watch/Cell Replacements that work in the USA? And with what carrier?
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You want 850Mhz (limited coverage area) or 1900Mhz 3G capable smartwatches. Those will work with AT&T.
Only 1900MHz 3G will work on T-Mo and that's if you are in a 1900MHz coverage area.
I won't provide a list as that would take days of research to do, and it would have to be done on a continuous basis to keep the list up to date.
I have a T-Mobile 4G HotSpot Z64. In my town it only connects to 2G. But if I go to the next town over it's on 4G. Suburb of Buffalo, NY here. I have a ZGPAX S8 coming tomorrow and that says 3G only on WCDMA 2100MHz. Was this a wasted purchase in my area on T-Mobile?
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I have a T-Mobile 4G HotSpot Z64. In my town it only connects to 2G. But if I go to the next town over it's on 4G. Suburb of Buffalo, NY here. I have a ZGPAX S8 coming tomorrow and that says 3G only on WCDMA 2100MHz. Was this a wasted purchase in my area on T-Mobile?
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You will get 2G until they turn it off and that's it. T-Mo doesn't use 2100 but 1700+2100 or 1900.
The specs on the Hotspot say it's GSM/EDGE:850/1900MHz - UMTS/HSPA: 850/AWS/1900MHZ. If it's 2G at my home but 4G in a different town, then would it be my tower hasn't had 1900 upgraded? And if so, will a Android Smartwatch with 2G 1900 work still?
I got the ZGPAX S8 yesterday. I threw in my SIM from a T-Mobile Hotspot and the watch was up and running on what the watch is calling 3 E. Home and abroad. Download speed is crap but I can stream music and make texts and calls. Wonderful little device.
Again, a friendly reminder to those buying cellular capable Chinese smartwatches in the U.S
AT&T 2G GSM 850/1900MHz network shutdown
To help support increasing mobile Internet usage and continue to provide you with a great customer experience, we started to discontinue service on our 2G wireless network as of December 31, 2016.
AT&T wireless customers attempting to use 2G devices on this network after the shutdown will be unable to:
Make or receive calls, including emergency calls.
Send or receive text messages.
Use data services.
Device Requirements Post-2G Shutdown
After December 31, 2016, the minimum requirement needed to operate on AT&T’s network is 3G WCDMA (UMTS) HSPA 850/1900 MHz Band 2 and Band 5.
In short. If you don't have working 3G support now, your device is a paperweight after December 31st 2016.
T-Mobile still works in Toledo on an A1 from Agptek. Its a $20 smartwatch. Not good for much but the mp3 player and the ability to make calls. Bluetooth allows headphones to be used when making calls, and hooks up to the hands free in my Mazda.
I have a Lemfo Lem5 which has 3G 850/1900/2100. Works in Canada on Koodo, which is 3G only. AFAIK, it's the only one of these phones that has that combo. I hope that changes this year.
Rodimus80 said:
I got the ZGPAX S8 yesterday. I threw in my SIM from a T-Mobile Hotspot and the watch was up and running on what the watch is calling 3 E. Home and abroad. Download speed is crap but I can stream music and make texts and calls. Wonderful little device.
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How is it going with the ZGPAX S8 these days?
Greetings from Flensburg, Germany
KrautHolg
Not worth the hassle. Replacing SD card, putting everything back together, and then just using the damn thing always lead to me wanting my phone for control which defeated the purpose of the watch. I suggest trying a higher priced device. But I have no experience with those. I'll be jumping back into the watch game maybe in another year or two. Right now it's beta.
DZ09 smartwatch
Does the DZ09 smartwatch use only 2G network?
Microsoft Cortana
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Not worth the hassle.
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Tried to install various personal assistants without success, but then got Microsoft Cortana to work. I can just ask the watch pretty much anything, so long as I have Internet. Oh yeah, it has to be in English, too. Voice recognition works almost 100%, whereas answering by voice only works about 2/3 of the time. The other 1/3 I get a list of links. This is still pretty useful, as I simply have to touch to open them without the need to type anything on that tiny screen. I could well get used to this! In fact, I am convinced that this is the future and sooner or later many of us will go this way.
Oh, and BTW, I use watch as a standalone device, not connected to my phone.
Cheers!
KrautHolg
hi
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I'm currently in the market of getting a Smart Watch/Cell Replacement with WiFi Hotspot abilities in the USA. With these new changes to both AT&T and T-Mobile, are there any Smart Watch/Cell Replacements that work in the USA? And with what carrier?
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hi
2G works in Toledo
2G from T-Mobile (and Mint, which uses T-Mobile) still works in Toledo Ohio as of today. I have an A1 smartwatch from AGPtek. It's a cheapo $20 watch, but it does make calls, send texts and the Bluetooth works with my wireless headset. Hands free works in my car. None of the Apps work but that will be no surprise to anyone here.
Lokifish Marz said:
"To help support the explosion of mobile Internet usage and give customers a great experience, AT&T plans to fully discontinue service on its 2G wireless networks by approximately January 1, 2017."
"AT&T expects to fully discontinue service on our 2G network by approximately January 1, 2017. As AT&T progressively frees up valuable spectrum for our mobile broadband network, we may conclude that some markets or territories need to turn down 2G service prior to the nationwide turndown."
Source -AT&T Corporate Website
This is not an AT&T thing either. T-Mobile is also in the process of turning off 2G coverage and is expected to happen around the same time.
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Go for a 4G WCDMA/LTE watch as I did with the DM2018.