Hi guys,
I will be moving to the US (Chicago) next month and I have a few questions for my good Defy friends:
- Will I be able to use my unlocked Defy in the US with 3G speeds and/or HSDPA speeds?
- Is there a carrier that will let me use my phone and give me cheaper prices?
- For new voice+data plans, can I get unlimited for cheap somewhere with good coverage?
- What baseband and GPS settings should I use there?
I'm from Serbia/Europe, and I'm using my Defy with standard Central Europe baseband now and europe gps fix.
I looked around some carriers in US and I think maybe Sprint has some unlimited data plans? Could I use my Defy on their network?
Any help will be appreciated!
Cheers.
I dont see any reason why it would not work, just use correct baseband
E: also im not from usa, so i dont know about us carrier plans but as long as it is unlocked, it should work fine on Sprint network
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I dont see any reason why it would not work, just use correct baseband
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Oh really? But which baseband to use in Baseband selection settings in CM7.2 if I want to use Sprint or Verizon or AT&T network?
There is only baseband for TMobile, but 2 or 3 of them though.
from what i know, you will need to use a GSM based operator, some operators in the USA use a system called CDMA, also your speeds may be slow to very slow on T-mobiles USA system as they use a wierd system for data, one frequency for uploads and another for downloads thats not used anywhere else.
Anotheir thing thats worth taking note of is that some US networks charge for incoming calls and texts ( or take incoming calls and texts form your alowance of minutes and texts/sms)
So you need to find an operator that uses a GSM system
you need to have your phone unlocked to work with any sim card
and you should try and find a service that deosnt charge for incoming calls and texts ( or that doesnt take these from your inclusive minutes/texts)
Proda said:
I'm from Serbia/Europe, and I'm using my Defy with standard Central Europe baseband now and europe gps fix.
I looked around some carriers in US and I think maybe Sprint has some unlimited data plans? Could I use my Defy on their network?
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If your phone is rooted (and since you're on xda I'm sure it is) install baseband switcher and download the baseband you need.
Sprint and Verizon use CDMA, so your Defy won't work with them.
T-Mobile and AT&T use GSM.
Your european Defy uses 900 and 2100 MHz for 3G. AT&T uses 850 and 1900 MHz, so you'll be stuck with their slow EDGE network.
T-Mobile uses 1700 and 2100 MHz for 3G. Their 2100 MHz band is compatible with your Defy.
If you want to use 3G on your european Defy then T-Mob is your only option.
An american contract without phone costs almost as much as a contract with a subsidized phone, so you may as well get a phone with american 3G/4G frequencies. Contractless options are ridiculously expensive with all sorts of stupidity such as "daily access fees." Prepaid texts and minutes usually have draconian expiration policies. Some carriers make you register your phones with them, and they only accept phones from a list of "approved phones." From a european point of view, american cell phone service and pricing is a mess.
Yes, my phone is rooted (the 1st day I bought it I rooted it and installed custom ROM ), and it's sim free (unlocked).
And I'm using CM7 so I have preinstalled baseband switcher.
In baseband switcher, when I go to America I have only T-mobile bands: T-mobile 3.4.2-107-9, 3.4.2-107-4 and 6.xx.0.
Which one is the best to use?
Yes I saw that it is a quite a mess with cell phone services in US. It's pretty expensive too (for plans that I have in Serbia). And one have to read all the tinny little words at the end of page (you have to pay for INCOMING SMS/MMS, or for INCOMING calls, and some stupid stuff like that)
So you suggest that I just take full pack - plan+mobile device? I saw that Verizon has the best 4G network in US. Maybe take that? Or you suggest something else? (I would like to have around 1gb of Data per month - that is UNLIMITED Data for me, and possibly free SMS and at least 300min of calls. And of course not to pay that too much - I saw some UNLIMITED Data plan in Sprint, but it is around 80$/month or more).
Now I pay 10$/month for plan that has 600mb/300minCalls/600sms.
Thanks for info one more time.
Cheers.
They will rip you off for 4G data plans. As i saw (out of curiostiy), expensive as hell.
The best way is to relax a bit and once you arrive there figure out the best solution for you and your family. It's simplier to go the brick and mortar store and discuss then to speculate here. They have some family packages that may be good.
And yes it will be better to buy a new phone with contract there. You might as well sell this Defy in Serbia. "leave old things in the past"
When you buy an american phone, Google your unlock options first. When you're back in Serbia for holidays you'll probably want to use your shiny new phone with a serbian SIM card.
Where I live carriers only lock phones on prepaid plans, but american carriers have the annoying habit of locking all their phones, even if you buy them on a two year contract.
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When you buy an american phone, Google your unlock options first. When you're back in Serbia for holidays you'll probably want to use your shiny new phone with a serbian SIM card.
Where I live carriers only lock phones on prepaid plans, but american carriers have the annoying habit of locking all their phones, even if you buy them on a two year contract.
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And Verizon is Simless as i know.
I assume you're in the US by now. Have you chosen what to do? I have a US Tmobile defy, and use tmobile prepaid service. 2gb at 4g (3g for defy) speeds then unlimited data at Edge speed is $60/month. that includes unlimited talk and txt.
I don't know which baseband is better either. I'm on 3.4.2-107-4 and haven't had any problems. I've also wondered which is better. I've thought maybe 107-4 is 2g and 107-9 is 3g? and when you switch on 2g/3g it switches itself? I really don't know though.
I wish I'm in the US now. But it seems that employers forgot about all the paperwork required to obtain working visa for US :silly:, so imo I'll be in the US around 1st of January 2013.
Then I can try to answer your questions
But I think I will buy Nexus 4 as soon as I get my 1st paycheck. :fingers-crossed:
I would prefer GSM phone so I could be able to use it when I come to Serbia on vacations. (I heard that iPhone 5 on Verizon is SIM card FREE so it is possible to use it with any GSM carrier But that is IPHONE. Who needs that! )
I still don't know which carrier I will chose. I saw one that looks nice and it is prepaid, maybe it has postpaid too (RedPocket)
I will be mostly in Chicago and Boston, so I think this carrier would be OK.
Or maybe T-mobile...
But before I buy new phone I'll have to choose SIM card to use it on my good old Defy. If you say T-mobile works for you, then I'll get that one (or this RedPocket if I find it somewhere).
HI!
I have a similar problem. I moved to the US (Chicago) for a few months. I have a defy with cm10 installed. Up to date at this point.
I bought a t-mobile prepaid simcard. I get only edge speed. According to what I read, T-mobile uses 1700MHz and 2100 MHz for the 3G. Actually both are required!
When I select baseband there are the three options for t-mob, but none of them work (at the details of the options, both 1700 and 2100 are mentioned). I also tried defy baseband switcher.
Is it even possible to use 3G on T-mobile with this phone? If yes, how?
Thanks!
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We just bought the T8585 touch HD2. Of course it's an amazing device and I know it has always been said to be limited to Edge here in the states unless you buy the new T9xxx HD2. I'm just looking to verify this though because I've read for days now and want to see some real world responses. So:
CAN THE HD2 T8585 WORK WITH AT&T 3G IN THE UNITED STATES? What radio/rom/rilphone.dll combination would I use to make this work or can it just not be done?
Thanks so much in advance!!!
-Josh
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We just bought the T8585 touch HD2. Of course it's an amazing device and I know it has always been said to be limited to Edge here in the states unless you buy the new T9xxx HD2. I'm just looking to verify this though because I've read for days now and want to see some real world responses. So:
CAN THE HD2 T8585 WORK WITH AT&T 3G IN THE UNITED STATES? What radio/rom/rilphone.dll combination would I use to make this work or can it just not be done?
Thanks so much in advance!!!
-Josh
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HD2 T8585 will not work with AT&T 3G since AT&T 3G is running 850MHz and the HD2 T8585 only supports 900 / 2100 MHz.
Yes, the Aussie version T9xxx WORKS with AT&T 3G.
Thanks a lot. That's the response I was looking for to validate my thoughts. If anyone has a different experience, please share.
The T9193 does work. Any rom with complementary radio should do the trick. Does not need special radio. I have sea wwe 1.66 installed on mine. No issues at the moment. At my home I pull in speeds of 1600kbps on H (3G+). You might want to check with ATT to see if your area has 850UMTS as not all 3G areas do. The T9193 will not give you 3G on the 1900UMTS band.
so agoattamer your sayin that if i got an t8585 changed the radio and all tha other stuff that i can get 3g if my area pulls the 1900umts BAND?
No I never said anything close to that. The Telstra T9193 is UMTS850+2100. The European T8585 is UMTS900+2100. Nothing can change or takeaway the bands.
I said the T9193 can get UMTS850 for ATT in the US. But only if ATT has that band available in your area. Niether phone has the UMTS1900 band.
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Thanks a lot. That's the response I was looking for to validate my thoughts. If anyone has a different experience, please share.
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Hey there,
Just wanted to let you know that although "we" have a T8585, don't feel left behind by the T9393 just because we can't use 3G for U.S. At&t.
there is a known and proven workaround to tweak the EDGE speed if you are using U.S. At&t. I get about 750kbps - 900kbps using my T8585 using this tweak.
Please read this thread --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627318
in my case, since my last device was a 2g iphone, im only paying $20 bucks with 200 text messages for the EDGE unlimited plan, compare if i have a T9393 which i will be required to purchase the $30 bucks data only plan (and not all places here in East coast has 3G, so i think it's a better choice for me to have a T8585) and having this tweak, makes my HD2 experience more exciting.
I have been using this tweak for over a month and reviewed my most recent bill to make sure im not going to be charge off by doing this.
So,..... enjoy!!!!
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No I never said anything close to that. The Telstra T9193 is UMTS850+2100. The European T8585 is UMTS900+2100. Nothing can change or takeaway the bands.
I said the T9193 can get UMTS850 for ATT in the US. But only if ATT has that band available in your area. Niether phone has the UMTS1900 band.
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okay well i gave att a lil call today and asked her about what bands my area has and she told me my area has 900 umts so would it still be good if i got the t8585?
You must not have heard right or she answered a different question. ATT does NOT have UMTS on 900MHz. ONLY on 850 or 1900, and by the end of the year it will be ALL 850.
din0_22 said:
Hey there,
Just wanted to let you know that although "we" have a T8585, don't feel left behind by the T9393 just because we can't use 3G for U.S. At&t.
there is a known and proven workaround to tweak the EDGE speed if you are using U.S. At&t. I get about 750kbps - 900kbps using my T8585 using this tweak.
Please read this thread --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627318
in my case, since my last device was a 2g iphone, im only paying $20 bucks with 200 text messages for the EDGE unlimited plan, compare if i have a T9393 which i will be required to purchase the $30 bucks data only plan (and not all places here in East coast has 3G, so i think it's a better choice for me to have a T8585) and having this tweak, makes my HD2 experience more exciting.
I have been using this tweak for over a month and reviewed my most recent bill to make sure im not going to be charge off by doing this.
So,..... enjoy!!!!
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Why in the world would you run the old edge unlimited plan on a device who's IMEI isn't in atts data bank?
If one is using a device att doesn't have on their network, you can get the media net unlimited plan for $10-15, which gives you unlimited access to 3g, tethering, and all other features for much cheaper without any risk for att adding a $30+ a month smart phone plan.
Honestly I ran that same plan on my Tilt, Tilt2 and fuze without issue.
Paying more for edge just doesn't make sense to me.
Att + HD2 9193 + Media Net = Gold
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Att + HD2 9193 + Media Net = Gold
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Word of the wise.
I love my $15/mo MediaNet. Unlimited EDGE/3G/HSPA to do everything your heart desires
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Why in the world would you run the old edge unlimited plan on a device who's IMEI isn't in atts data bank?
If one is using a device att doesn't have on their network, you can get the media net unlimited plan for $10-15, which gives you unlimited access to 3g, tethering, and all other features for much cheaper without any risk for att adding a $30+ a month smart phone plan.
Honestly I ran that same plan on my Tilt, Tilt2 and fuze without issue.
Paying more for edge just doesn't make sense to me.
Att + HD2 9193 + Media Net = Gold
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why? because 1st, its like i have a choice coming from an iphone 2g plan? 2nd, att still have my phone listed as the iphone 2g and FYI, if i try to register another phone, they would then need an IMEI., and if i ever provide a regular old flip phone and sign up for the $5-$15 EDGE MEDIA NET ulimited plan and GOT A RANDOM AUDIT CHECK??? how will you explain almost or more than 1GB of data used in a month having a registered device that transmit cant even transmit 20mb a day???
have you ever read the Att terms and condition? a relative of mine in this case got charged off for 5 months of unrestricted use of data using YOUR IDEA and ended up paying for it. 11.xxx GB to be exact.
imagine At&t charge 1cent per kilobyte????
Besides, iphone 2g would be the closest and cheapest plan that can transmit such amount of data without question.
lets just say, "i would rather be safe, than sorry", and besides???? who will jump from a regular flip phone with unlimited plan to an expensive HD2???
all pda or smartphones plan alone from att cost $30 bucks and paying $20 bucks with a whopping 200 free text message and unlimited data is a true golden!
ATT data plans are $30? I thought I was getting screwed for being legacy. [email protected]$25 woot!
Some people are just so paranoid and scared to stick it to the "man"
Had an iphone 2g 3 years ago then i got me an unlocked g1 downgraded my att net plan to media net and been paying 10 bucks for all access internet with my corp discount.
and even used a samsung blackjack as a 3g modem for my pc's.
Where there is a will theres a way.
3 years and counting.
This might sound like a stupid question
Im from the UK, so if i came to the USA with my HD2 and UK Sim for a holiday i couldnt use 3g data on any network?
You would likely roam on ATT so no, you would only have EDGE. Plus, data would be bloody expensive anyways
Ok so I am confused now. I was just at Fry's and they have an HD2 GSM Unlocked for roughly $600.
But on the box it shows the 850 and 1900 bands..... It says its the T8585, will this connect to AT&T 3G
GSM bands are not the same as 3G bands, though the numbering is the same
Hello,
I live in Germany and I'm going on holidays to the USA (California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona) for one month (august to september).
As I can't live without internet I thought of getting some kind of prepaid SIM-card over there with a data plan.
Now I don't have any clue which provider I should chose, where and how to get a prepaid SIM, which offer etc.
What would you recommend me?
I heard that the coverage isn't that good in the US and as I'm planning to go to some outlying places too, I'm aware that I won't have reception all the time. But that's okay.
I just need a SIM to do some calls and to write a few mails or check Facebook from time to time – I guess it'll be around 200mbyte and 1 hour calls for this month.
As I have a European phone (NexusOne) I need a GSM network of course.
Best regards and thanks for your help in advance,
lauslein
If u go to Indonesia, a lot of prepaid GSM & CDMA cards could be chosen here
Interested too, will be going to Arizona next summer.
Basically, I only need data and maybe a bit of texting.
seeing that u have a nexus one,,,which bands does it support? the tmobile or just europe? i suggest tmobile if u want 3g but they dont have data plans
at&t does but no 3g i'm sure
its 20$ on at&t for 100mb of data and 20$ for unlimited texting(sms) even to germany i think
Thanks for your reply!
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seeing that u have a nexus one,,,which bands does it support? the tmobile or just europe?
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Good question, I'll have to look this up. But I got it directly from Google (Device Seeding), so I guess it's some kind of an international version
20$ for 100MB sounds fair (even though I pay less for 1GB HSDPA at home) . The trip's going to be expensive anyway, so I'm willing to spend some money on that part, too
I know this issue is partly addressed in a thread on not being able to connect to a network after unlock but I just want to share my own experience and disappointment with the G2 after going to Guatemala.
I have rooted my G2 using Visionary and am running Enomther's ROM pre-the Dec 24 update. Not using any other kernels or anything, but the phone is unlocked for use overseas with other SIMs.
Before I went to Guate I realized that I would be unable to get 3G given the bands used in Guatemala are different from what the G2 is capable of (I think Band I and IV). Fine.
However, I went down there and wanted to do some data roaming before I had a chance to get a local SIM card and I kept getting the message "SIM card not registered to this network". I tried all three carriers in Guatemala to no avail.
When I went to get a SIM card from a local carrier it took a lot of effort on their part to get my phone connected to the internet but eventually I was able to score Edge service with one of the carriers down there. Being Guatemala I don't know if this process was difficult due to the way data plans work down there (prepaid) or if there was something specific with the G2 that prevented it from connecting to the network.
But my overall question is why I was not able to roam with the G2 overseas. Clearly the phone worked fine once I put a local SIM card in but the fact that I was totally unable to roam with the G2 using my US T-Mobile SIM card was very disappointing and has me thinking of reactivating my iPhone, which has never had any issue using it overseas, including Guatemala.
Is this a G2 issue or T-Mobile?
You have to enable international roaming with T-Mobile, I discovered that during a trip to Ukraine. Once I did that my subsequent trips I was able to roam but not very well. The easiest and cheapest thing to do was to use a foreign sim for my purposes.
You have to call tmobile and they will give you the unlock code most of the time. Tell then you are going for business or something like that.
Most likely your data and calling bands will work on edge. But your 3g and wannabe 4g will not work.
Circledog said:
You have to enable international roaming with T-Mobile, I discovered that during a trip to Ukraine. Once I did that my subsequent trips I was able to roam but not very well. The easiest and cheapest thing to do was to use a foreign sim for my purposes.
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Woah, weird. I lived in ukraine for 3 years. And yes buying a ukrainian sim card will cost you about 5-10 dollars a month for a crap load of text messages. UMC is best for ukraine imo.
Completely off topic but how did you like living in Ukraine? I would love to live there for awhile. We adopted a little girl from there and then later another from Moscow, I loved Moscow but Russia was so much more expensive than Ukraine was.
Back on topic sort of. I didn't have a smart phone in Ukraine so I didnt use data, but in Moscow I was able to get 3G coverage with my G2. I had Tmobile international roaming enabled on my phone, but my sim would not register on any networks there, I had to pick up a Russian Beeline sim and then was good to go!
From what I understood about mhz bands and services. There are four total most used bands in the entire world 850 900 1800 and 1900. Us in america use two (one under a thousand and one over) and europe uses the opposite ones. So only up until tri and quad band phones started getting much cheaper (probably about 5 years ago) did phone start working in different countrys. Its only smarter honestly, then a company would only need to make on phone for the world. Then they would be losing out on multiple purchases ofc haha.
Google mobile mhz bands. I don't know everything, but I read quite a bit about this maybe 3 years ago when I bought a tri band nokia.
Ukraine, I was there for 2 years for my church. Became fluent in russian. Then went back to date a girl I met while I was there. After that she came twice for 6 month increments on a visitor visa and we got married at the end of the second. Been happily married for almost 2.5 years now.
Bring on the mail order bride jokes, I've heard them all. We r both young, planning on buying a house this year since the economy has really brought those prices down haha. Sorry for the spam! But hopefully your questions are answered.
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Thanks for the responses. I will give T-Mobile a call ahead of my next trip overseas. Just odd that a company with such wide global coverage has no international data roaming plans and makes it a pain the keester to get roaming.
They actually do have international data roaming ($15/MB). The key is that you have to have already added international roaming to your account (it's free to add). Then if you have a data plan in the US, they will allow you to have data while roaming. I think US carriers require you to actively enable international roaming instead of enabling it by default due to the potentially high number of complaints about billing charges (e.g., people using their phones internationally without being aware there will be a higher rate). This way, they can state you were properly warned since you have to contact them first.
So far I thought T-mobile only supports 1700 but I heard it also supports 2100 which the European version of HD2 supports.
Does that mean I can get 3g in the U.S. if I switched to T-mobile?
To my understanding... yes.
Or... you can find the elusive Telstra HTC HD2, which has the proper bands (some) to work on AT&T. That's what I did, but I'm willing to jump through most hoops in order to keep my $20mth unlimited data plan.
If I buy a new phone, that would be galaxy note. I don't think I would buy Tetra t8585 now. Well I thought about it a lot before. It was that good. Anyway, BTW, when did T-mobile gets 2100? When i first got this European T8585, there was no way I could use 3g in the US other than getting the tetra model. T-mobile back then only carries 1700. Can anybody confirm this?
i'd like to know the answer too. i just bought an European HD2, and I am wondering if it would connect to the T-Mobile 3G network in the US. Please confirm? Thanks!
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To my understanding... yes.
Or... you can find the elusive Telstra HTC HD2, which has the proper bands (some) to work on AT&T. That's what I did, but I'm willing to jump through most hoops in order to keep my $20mth unlimited data plan.
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Used to be the same way. Had an old $15 Unlimited MediaNet plan that I was never forced into upgrading. And because of this, my wife and I have bought our phones online for years.
Still switched to T-mobile this past month. Check out their Value Plans. No phones, sim only, no subsidized costs. Saving around $40 a month by going to the Value plan and limiting myself to their 5gb high speed plan. (you would still save money by going to their 10gb high speed plan.) For those that don't know, T-mobile throttles your speed down after you've reached your "cap". So they can say they still have unlimited internet.
The service quality isn't quite as good in my area as AT&T. But at the costs of hundreds of dollars a year, I can sacrifice not being able to get 3g in the middle of the woods.
So my suggestion to the OP? Save your money importing a Telstra HD2, and just switch to T-mobile.
tmo us dont use '1700 or 2100' in the same way that the euro hd2 uses "900 or 2100"
Tmo in the US use AWS which uses 1700 AND 2100, not 1700 OR 2100, so a phone that is expecting to use only 1700 or only 2100 wont work on the t mo network. (At least thats my understanding of AWS, i could be completely wrong, , , only tmo US and one or two tiny unknowns around the world use AWS)
So I'm from Belgium, Europe but am going to study at Northwest Missouri State University from January till the end of April, but of course I need a mobile provider while I'm there, but since I know **** about the carriers in the USA, and well, websites of the carriers don't always mention everything, I'm just asking you guys, which mobile provider and/or plan should I take for those 5 months?
I don't care if it's prepaid or a contract or whatever, as long as it stops after 5 months.
I've got a HTC Sensation, so would like some data with that.
Thanks in advance for responding!
then ur only choices here in the USA is T-Mobile or At&t. If u like to pay more u can go to att and can get 3G data due to the tmobile us frequency is 1700 so you may only get EDGE speed. But with tmobile prepaid cost $50 a month for unlimited talk text and data (i believe 2GB).
your not going to be able to get contact cuz u need a SS# and credit.
t-mobile is great since its parent company its t-mobile deucthe telcom
Sprint, never had a problem
A: Verizon
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He needs a carrier that uses GSM. Verizon and Sprint are not the droid your looking for.
It doesn't matter if it uses gsm or wcdma i bought my sensation on ebay from usa, it was branded and stuff, so i think it would work with any provider in usa.
You won't actually be able to use Verizon or Sprint with the Sensation because CDMA technology requires completely different radios. To be able to use either standard, your phone would have to be a (what CDMA providers in America call) "world phone", like the iPhone 4S or the Motorola Photon.
Since you already have a phone, you could do either a T-Mobile value plan or a Simple Mobile unlimited plan. Both run on T-Mobile's network, so the coverage should be exactly the same. T-Mobile isn't the absolute best carrier, so I'd check coverage in the area that you'll be spending the most time in. However, T-Mobile's 4G and 3G speeds are pretty good, and better than AT&T (the only major GSM alternative) in most places. I have no idea how (or even if they offer them) AT&T's SIM card-only plans work.
Thanks, I search some more and found this page:
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans
So the unlimited web & text with 100 minutes talk $30 plan would be perfect?
Even though I feel they are the better carrier, AT&T likely wouldn't be a viable option as their prepaid plans do not support smartphone as well as the others.
Postpaid could be an option, but they would likely want a cash deposit since you lack a social and credit history.
yes but NOTICE AFTER 2G tmo slows your data but ur school must have wifi networks built in so that wouldn't really be a problem and u can enable wifi calling at the store (free calls) or use google voice to call
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yes but NOTICE AFTER 2G tmo slows your data but ur school must have wifi networks built in so that wouldn't really be a problem and u can enable wifi calling at the store (free calls) or use google voice to call
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WiFi calling still uses plan minutes.
I'll probably call with skype, so that isn't a problem, I've also noticed on the tmo site that tmo has a fast mobile connection at northwest missouri state university, is this 3g?
Its 4g 21 or 42 mbps
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