Just wonder what you guys think....Do you think it's necessary to have a forum dedicated to the US version of this phone since the roms for the international version won't be compatible with it?
I think it would help since there won't be any confusion as to what version a particular rom/kernel/mod is for...I think it would also help as far as troubleshooting is concerned too.
What do you think?
Sounds practical to me
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916x10 said:
Just wonder what you guys think....Do you think it's necessary to have a forum dedicated to the US version of this phone since the roms for the international version won't be compatible with it?
I think it would help since there won't be any confusion as to what version a particular rom/kernel/mod is for...I think it would also help as far as troubleshooting is concerned too.
What do you think?
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I agree, there Is no point in cluttering this forum with a different device. Its a completely different beast.
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So many newbs will be flashing quad core ROM's on their dual core phones, and vice versa.
It's going to be a real mess for awhile. And likely a lot of total bricked phones as a result.
This will happen, perhaps we could wait untill US versions are ACTUALLY available?
It will be broken down into VZW, Sprint , ATT and TMO..maybe under one thread, maybe completely seperate....
While sharing the same build, they will have different model #'s...as has been the case with just about EVERY phone ever released...
Chill out guys..GNEX started on Verizon...now they have a GSM/Verizon/Sprint sub thread...
Did you really think a dev would post a US rom into a I-9300 thread without clearly stating it's for said device?
They need to separate all of the variations......Korea, Japan, etc. This forum is already becoming cluttered
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Closed as this has been answered before, at the very least the USA S4 versions will get their own dev sections, but the exact layout is still under discussion.
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[Q] Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764084
Yes this is exactly what we need. Since the poll is positive, when will we see the forums merge together?
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Great idea. I voted in the orignal thread.
They did it with so many other phones, why not the galaxy s series?
I don't get it, and not many do. I came from the touch pro series and it doesn't bother me to have separate subs; rapheal is a great example of how it works out to combine em in one.
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as i don't have any Mod power to make it a sticky, much less make the original topic cross posted across the 5 SGS forums
This would help a lot!
I'd be okay with merging the Vibrant, Captivate, and that Verizon model, but I feel that the Galaxy S is too different in both hardware and software to merge it. Do we really want to be dealing with people who flashed the wrong ROM that was in the same forum?
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I'd be okay with merging the Vibrant, Captivate, and that Verizon model, but I feel that the Galaxy S is too different in both hardware and software to merge it. Do we really want to be dealing with people who flashed the wrong ROM that was in the same forum?
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Actually we have more similarities with the Galaxy S then the Vibrant and Captivate >.>
If you read the post the Development forums will have separate subforums for device specific stuff...but things like General and etc will be merged so more people will be able to assist you..our device are pretty much 95%-99% identical.
I think its a pretty good idea. We don't want development scattered. United we stand strong!
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I think its a pretty good idea. We don't want development scattered. United we stand strong!
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yup! and more development = win for us all...
Please make this happen!
*Flashed back to the Hero forum before they where separate* Horrible Idea wanting to put CDMA and GSM phones in the same area - many a Hero where sent to an early grave by mixing the Dev boards for these 2. Someone posts a GSM radio update and a CDMA guy gets it thinking "Hey, what the Hell, couldn't hurt!" and there goes their $500.00 phone. Then they something about having insurance replace it and a huge debate starts over insurance fraud. And I've been told that insurance on the Epic is a one time use, then they drop it and you are Ef'd on a second one.
So consider this my vote against a huge forum of all GS devices. Also, with the hardware differences on a kernel level I have to think this would be a developer nightmare. As active as all 5 boards are already, there would be no way to keep up as a community to help each other out. Your thread would be buried in 10 minutes and we would have to deal with 5 times as many people asking stupid "Which rom is the best" or "How do I root my phone" questions without searching.
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So consider this my vote against a huge forum of all GS devices.
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The proposition includes having separate development forums for each device. Only the General and Apps forums would be combined. Check out the link in the OP for more info.
lol wouldn't it be funny if they all merged and than the other Galaxy S phones want to divorce from the Epic because of no Tv-Out.
"They're mutants!!!"
sorry about the cross forum posting guys, but until we get this other issue solved
Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum
this is the only way to keep in touch across the separate forums
Obviously a lot of you know that I run another forum, but the point of my post is not to try to recruit people over there, but to ask the mods here or the people posting with important information like firmwares, backups, dumps and mods, to help.
I have been noticing a lot of information posted on the galaxy tablet thread that is spread out all over the place and is very unorganized. We need to make sure when we post something that we make sure it says VZW, TMO, SPRINT, AT&T or whatever!
I have separated these section on my forums to limit the possibility of people screwing their tablets up with the wrong files. Feel free to throw a copy of the important post you made here on my forums if you want to keep it documented in a section thats it was made for. Other than that I am just asking to specify it accordingly here. Maybe we can do something like (VZW) in the front of the title or something.
XDA does a great job on keeping the forums neat, but with something this broad we need to separated it.
... Thoughts???
PM me the site you mention.
I agree that some prefix tags would be good. With vbulletin its easy enough to create selectable prefixes from a drop down menu also, so not too much hassle to set-up either.
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I totally agree i didn't see your thread yesterday so i started one trying to maby get some of the moderators to see about separating the hardware versions, if you could pm me your site as well that would be great
Check my signature for info. I will pm you link.
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UK/US markup might be an idea too.
the majority of us here at xda are talking about the eu version - GT-P1000
your forum has only the us tabs in subforums... this will confuse europeans even more
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the majority of us here at xda are talking about the eu version - GT-P1000
your forum has only the us tabs in subforums... this will confuse europeans even more
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Good point . Personally I'd be happy to see a sub-section for all the posts about Verison/AT&T/sprint and how to use the device as a phone etc. I'm sure it must be confusing for those with devices that are unlocked and have phone capability to wander through so many threads about things that are of no concern to them.
organization should be as follows:
GSM galaxy tab forum(atnt,tmo)
CDMA galaxy tab forum(sprint,verizon)
in each thread header your carrier should be listed by 3 letters eg.(att,spr,ver,tmo) then topic eg.( [theme],[rom],etc...)
this would keep things organized. if dev is to get anywhere on this device, organization is key...also many are noobs that flash roms for the wrong device; i feel that if its listed like this its your own fault if you cant read...As is i can see pps flashing roms for wrong device...wont happen to me but than again, im not your everyday android user..
i read post of someone noting that most users here have/are referring to euro version of tab. that is just selfish and inconsiderate...logic dictates that if the device was released 1st in europe than more in europe would have one...well it was released in U.S fairly recently and already there are many here posting using U.S models. this is xdA dev which DOES NOT specify EUROPEAN ONLY SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB DEVELOPMENT..many of us are AMERICAN. please be considersate and consider adding structure to your forum posts so we can get this tab to the top of the food chain where it deserves to rest as the undisputed champ @ this point in time....oranization people!!!
It should actually be at least two forum categories:
Galaxy Tab GT-P1000 which would cover most of the world and most of the devices sold (or flashed to P1000 standards).
Crippled North American Tabs. It can then have a "Even More Crippled North American Tabs" subforum for CDMA versions.
As mentioned above, many "CNAT" owners would migrate up to the P1000 forum after they've flashed to that standard, leaving the "EMCNAT" owners a nice quiet place to hang out, where they can never answer the question of "Can you hear me now?".
Note that I'm a CNAT owner.
For the European version, ATT, and VZW versions of this Galaxy Tablet because i don't know what the heck I'm looking at in the Development section anymore. Everything is SO clustered. I have a VZW Tab and trying to find anything in that DEV section is almost impossible. Anyone else agree???
Agreed.
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+1
Not the easiest forum to follow for specific tabs/regions.
I agree with this also.
i agree also... there isnt to much development goin on for the vzw tab.. i own a vzw tab my self. but we should have separate sections... hopefully they make it happen both development and a devoted vzw tab section.
You think you have got it hard, I'm confused as hell since I have an Asian Tab. Fffffuuuu. I'm guessing it's similar/identical to the Euro one but I'm not sure, so I haven't really tried flashing anything so far.
I agree as well, maybe with subsections for questions, ROMS, etc as well broken out of those.
Agreed, it's far too messy.
/make it happen.
Very disorderly. And for a nooblit like me almost painful.
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maybe in the future i can see a point in sub-sections
but from what ive read (and i aint done any mods to my device yet)
all the roms ect.. are clearly marked which device there for
if you cant find anything for your device thats because its not available 'yet'
the dev section is picking up great so hopefully it wont be long for things to be stable enough for a n00b like me to use, and for different device versions to become available
Sometimes i get confused too but if i got it, most things are common for the tabs and only basebands / modem firmware differs?
Agreed
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A little organization goes a long way. Start topics with "VZW CDMA" or "UK GSM" or something similar and 90% of the confusion would go away. Search might work, too. And people can start doing that TOMORROW, not when some organization is imposed.
This forum should be kept as place to mods, questions, news, and other development that pertains to all non quad core galaxy s3's because then we will still be able to expand on all of our phones at once instead being limited to our section only. I think the device thread separation was necessary but we should still have a place for stuff that pertains to us all
I'm confused. Isn't that what it is now? General section for AT&T, T-Mobile, Spring, and Verizon Galaxy S3's
Edit - just saw that it's all getting broken out into subforums again. Lame.
I concur
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I'm having flash withdrawals!!! I need to flash a new rom but I can't find them. I know they are separating them but is development gone until they are done?
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I'm having flash withdrawals!!! I need to flash a new from but I can't find them. I know they are separating them but is development gone until they are done?
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Find your development sub-forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29263175
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find your development sub-forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29263175
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thank you thank you thank you!!!!!
I'm all for the united dual core version forum since all great ideas can come together with no worry of carrier. Keep the forum
I'd like for it to be united as well.
Yea I like it together too I think there should be a poll or something since no matter how it is set up someone will complain
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change is good.
I'm good either way but the mods have made up their minds.
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The merge was initially done because we had high hopes that everyone would play in the sandbox nicely. Sadly this did not happen to the level we hoped for, although do not misunderstand, there was a lot of carrier-independent collaboration going on. It also ended up being a nightmare to keep clean and [relatively] free of clutter due to threads not being labeled correctly.
The Accessories sections have been merged with the International section, so clicking those links will take you to a one stop shop for advice on what to buy for your newest toy. Of course the Development and Original Development sections will continue as well.
Let's make the best of this situation. With some help from everyone, we can get everything sorted in a day or two. In the meantime, new threads should NOT be created in this section. It just increases our workload.
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+1 for keeping it unified
Carrier Specific stuff can go to their respective sections...universal issues can go here.
One love, one life. Let's get together and...
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I prefer my own section for my device. I certainly did not like having to sift through all of the Verizon locked bootloaders, Tmobile data questions, and AT&T locked LTE data switch threads. I fully support development ports from one device to another, but no need to combine all of the general sections of each device into one major one.
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I prefer my own section for my device. I certainly did not like having to sift through all of the Verizon locked bootloaders, Tmobile data questions, and AT&T locked LTE data switch threads. I fully support development ports from one device to another, but no need to combine all of the general sections of each device into one major one.
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+1 It has made XDA far less enjoyable for me. Too much clutter.
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16 of 21 votes to keep it combined. I agree
I say keep community together.Development section is still separate.This is the kind of division that Malcolm warned us about,lol.
Oh no they are separating this as i type this,i feel that xda's evil behind the scenes sponsor Aplle is behind this.
Overstew said:
I prefer my own section for my device. I certainly did not like having to sift through all of the Verizon locked bootloaders, Tmobile data questions, and AT&T locked LTE data switch threads. I fully support development ports from one device to another, but no need to combine all of the general sections of each device into one major one.
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Congratulations overstew
You have won my 400th thanks
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I like the the devas seperation decision but I also believe we should have a Dual core s3 forum so we can post news and other dev for all devices.
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Yeah yeah, I know Im breaking the "Only post dev threads in the Dev section" but this is where this needs to be for a day or so...
Currently, we Mods are throwing around the idea of possibly merging the AT&T/T-Mobile forums with the HTC One. Hardware speaking, they are the same phone (minus the fact that the developer edition has a few more frequency bands). Software-wise though, I need to hear from all the Developers if there is anything different that needs to be enabled or done to get an AT&T/T-Mobile phone to run an international rom and have EVERYTHING work perfectly (i.e LTE).
Ive spoken to a few of you, but I want to hear from all the Developers. Do you think its a good idea to have all three forums merged into one... and can all phones run on the same roms and have everything work 100% and not leave out anything? This is a crucial piece of the puzzle to figuring out if we should proceed or not.
Ive also thrown up a vote just for the fun of it.
Thank you in advance for taking the time to chime in with your thoughts/opinions on the matter.
My vote goes for "yes".
Actually, lets use the new system...
Calling @torxx @mike1986. @cschmitt @flar2 @mwilky @LlabTooFeR @shnizlon @H89P @n3ocort3x @nocoast @fauz123 @Romanbb @h8rift @deadman96385 @kozmikkick @pinpong
If I forgot or overlooked you, my apologies... but feel free to chime in anyway.
I've always supported this, yes
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Actually, lets use the new system...
Calling @torxx @mike1986. @cschmitt @flar2 @mwilky @LlabTooFeR @shnizlon @H89P @n3ocort3x @nocoast @fauz123 @Romanbb @h8rift @deadman96385 @kozmikkick @pinpong
If I forgot or overlooked you, my apologies... but feel free to chime in anyway.
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For some reason the mention system didn't alert me, but I saw the thread
I say merge them. People keep asking over and over whether things are compatible with att and t-mo.
As an ATT user, I recommended mods should move ATT development & original development to HTC One as sub-forums, the rest like general + Q&A section can be merge with. There are not any many dev's in ATT development, it's boring .
@ to person click no to make separate is a SGS4 user lol, im just kidding around.
Have no problems with merging them, vote is "yes"
I'm not a dev but I still support this idea. It will make things much either rather than having people ask if certain things will be compatible and it will also save relaying the information to 3 different forums.
What about the Sprint variant? Is that too different so it needs to stay separated?
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Yes please
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Maybe keep the general forums separate and merge everything else. So one forum with 7 subforums.
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What about the Sprint variant? Is that too different so it needs to stay separated?
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Sprint is CDMA, so it MUST stay seperate.
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What about the Sprint variant? Is that too different so it needs to stay separated?
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Sprint (and Verizon if they ever get it) will stay separate due to it being CDMA and the phones not being 100% identical hardware-wise.
Not a developer but I say merge them all into one, becomes far easier to find, search and relay information. saves having to duplicate everything and things will get more attention
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Actually, lets use the new system...
Calling @torxx @mike1986. @cschmitt @flar2 @mwilky @LlabTooFeR @shnizlon @H89P @n3ocort3x @nocoast @fauz123 @Romanbb @h8rift @deadman96385 @kozmikkick @pinpong
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I definitely vote yes i dont like creating/maintaining more OPs than i have to...
Yep i think merging will be the best option
If they are merged, which I am a proponent of, it would be beneficial to have a sticky kept up-to-date which lists all the compatible carriers for this section with any carrier specific FAQ for developers.
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I say merge 'em, but there are a few network related software tweaks in AT&T based ROMs, so AT&T users should probably be made aware of the different behavior they might notice when flashing ROMs not based on AT&T firmware. A sticky should do the job. Can't speak for the T-Mo version.
Yes...merge them, I'm using tmous phone with an international Rom and it works great.
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gtg465x said:
I say merge 'em, but there are a few network related software tweaks in AT&T based ROMs, so AT&T users should probably be made aware of the different behavior they might notice when flashing ROMs not based on AT&T firmware.
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Really? I didnt know there were any software related tweaks. Care to elaborate on what these are? It may be beneficial for us to know what these are. Thanks.
Very minimal tweaks on things like mms size, signal bar inflation, etc. That torxx and mike1986 have incorporated into their installers. Not 100% necessary but makes things nice.
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