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Is there a new tethering policy in place? I read that it was 10 GB before they trottle you but recent artickes suggests it is in fact only 5 GB? When did this happen?
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I hit 10GB last month (don't ask; had to travel a lot and no free wifi access) but never experienced any throttling. I didn't go over by much, but I never got a message and a check on speedtest showed full throughput.
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Thanks for you input, now we know for sure. So, the changes is from 10 GB no throttling to 5 GB with throttling.
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PaiPiePia said:
Is there a new tethering policy in place? I read that it was 10 GB before they trottle you but recent artickes suggests it is in fact only 5 GB? When did this happen?
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Happens in 15 mins. 10/16/2010
laristech said:
Happens in 15 mins. 10/16/2010
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Oh that suck, there goes the only thing good about TMO network.
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Oh that suck, there goes the only thing good about TMO network.
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What about the part where T-mobile doesn't charge more for going over the 5 gb cap?
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What about the part where T-mobile doesn't charge more for going over the 5 gb cap?
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Carrier should be doing that in the first place. A recent FCC ruling made it mandatory for ATT to warn the customer when they are about to go over the limit.
I know I will never use the 10 GB (even though the thread title is tethering limit, I actually do not tether), but having something that I used to have (paying for), ripped out of my hands just like that just doesn't feel good.
We don't have a tethering limit, you can blame those that do tether excessively for the reduction in the limit
I dont understand why T-mobile advertises its internet services as UNLIMITED when they pull stuff like this
anthonys2r said:
I dont understand why T-mobile advertises its internet services as UNLIMITED when they pull stuff like this
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It's been debated over many time, and I think the general census is that it is "Unlimited Access " but not "Unlimited Usage". You can access the internet when and where you want, which is the general idea.
From what I understand they don't bill you extra or turn you off, they just throttle you (slow you down) .
I saw the number as 5 gigs, kinda a reasonable number in my book. Even if you were tethering that is a big number if you just surfing and checking email. File sharing, big game downloads, and watching lots of videos would be the only way to hit that number.
Just my two cents
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PaiPiePia said:
It's been debated over many time, and I think the general census is that it is "Unlimited Access " but not "Unlimited Usage". You can access the internet when and where you want, which is the general idea.
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https://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans...-phone-plan&WT.z_unav=mst_shop_plans_internet
T-mobile clearly has Unlimited DATA per month (and 5gb for webConnect plan) so there is a clear distinction between unlimited and 5gb.
(ps. Please understand I am not arguing/getting mad at you, just at t-mobile for pulling this stuff)
ward360 said:
From what I understand they don't bill you extra or turn you off, they just throttle you (slow you down) .
I saw the number as 5 gigs, kinda a reasonable number in my book. Even if you were tethering that is a big number if you just surfing and checking email. File sharing, big game downloads, and watching lots of videos would be the only way to hit that number.
Just my two cents
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It is true, Ill probably never hit that 5gb (I lightly tether, probably, 5 hours a week). But I only tether because my justification is: my data plan costs more than my home internet plan ($30 vs $15) so I try to use it to its full extent. The market for mobile internet is ridiculous..
I swear, prices between data and text message plans is highway robbery. FCC should really do something (beneficial).
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Its unlimited, just not full speed after 5gb.
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anthonys2r said:
It is true, Ill probably never hit that 5gb (I lightly tether, probably, 5 hours a week). But I only tether because my justification is: my data plan costs more than my home internet plan ($30 vs $15) so I try to use it to its full extent. The market for mobile internet is ridiculous..
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Yea, I hear you there, between my wifes phone and my phone we drop alot on mobile internet, and I do tether when needed, but I by no means abuse it, I use about 200 megs a month, through tmoble. I use anywhere from 5 to 60 gigs through my home internet, comcast caps you at 250 gigs a month.
Both companys are just trying to hold up the abusers, file sharing is a major issue, (if I hit anywhere over 10 gigs at home it is because of file sharing)
The abusers are the issue, when one person uses as much as 200 other users it becomes an issue.
I don't agree with it, but I can totally see why they do it. It won't affect 99.99% of user's. And the ones that it does are probably doing things they aren't supposed to.
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Is there a new tethering policy in place? I read that it was 10 GB before they trottle you but recent artickes suggests it is in fact only 5 GB? When did this happen?
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I don't believe T-Mobile ever condoned the use of tethering on any of their devices.
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https://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans...-phone-plan&WT.z_unav=mst_shop_plans_internet
T-mobile clearly has Unlimited DATA per month (and 5gb for webConnect plan) so there is a clear distinction between unlimited and 5gb.
(ps. Please understand I am not arguing/getting mad at you, just at t-mobile for pulling this stuff)
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Pulling what stuff? This has been said before, T-Mobile will allow unlimited usage for their data plan, nothing states that they will not throttle your speeds. If it stated that they didn't in the past and then changed their minds then people would have room to gripe but that isn't the case. If you do not like their service then choose another cellular provider. I think Sprint offers unlimited 4g access when you pay the extra $20 or $25 on top of the fee for the data usage.
I called them abouta year ago when I started tethering on my g1 (of course I didn't tell them that) and they assured me that there is no such limit or charges. It ready is simply unlimited
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TheAdictsPunk said:
I called them abouta year ago when I started tethering on my g1 (of course I didn't tell them that) and they assured me that there is no such limit or charges. It ready is simply unlimited
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The call center reps are not qualified to make that distinction because of their lack of knowledge about the terms of agreement that you had to sign. They will tell you anything to make you happy, that is their job. This is not limited to T-Mobile of course. If you want to a definitive answer then just check your contract. It will state what restrictions there are for the data plan. I had to pull out the contract to make sure I followed the terms of agreement when I was messing with the firmware on a Clear modem they sent me so I could use it with my router and accidentally bricked the modem. I argued for 30 minutes with the rep for a new modem because she believed that messing with firmware for the modem constituted to abusive use of their devices without stating what is abusive use. She sounded pretty new to the job too.
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Pulling what stuff? This has been said before, T-Mobile will allow unlimited usage for their data plan, nothing states that they will not throttle your speeds. If it stated that they didn't in the past and then changed their minds then people would have room to gripe but that isn't the case. If you do not like their service then choose another cellular provider. I think Sprint offers unlimited 4g access when you pay the extra $20 or $25 on top of the fee for the data usage.
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Believe me, if most of my friends & family had AT&T, I would've jumped ship a longggg time ago (would've also been much happier & easier on the wallet with the 200mb $15 data plan).
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Believe me, if most of my friends & family had AT&T, I would've jumped ship a longggg time ago (would've also been much happier & easier on the wallet with the 200mb $15 data plan).
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Nothing is stopping you or your family and friends from changing providers. That is why there is a free market, don't like on service provider go to the next and so on and so forth. I am not trying to cause an argument, but the old adage, you can't have one's cake and eat it too, applies here.
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I swear, prices between data and text message plans is highway robbery. FCC should really do something (beneficial).
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They are not doing much because (which I just learned the other day) that taxes on cell phone usage (monthly plan) where I live is stunning 18%.
FCC probably want your bill to be as high as possible.
Now, this thread isn't really about tethering, I started because of the fact that T-mobile is reducing the amount from 10 GB to 5 GB. I understand the fair use policy so an artificial cap is fine with me, but don't lower the cap for everyone just because a few people are tethering to their phone, scale those who use more and charge them more.
Now, you might ask: If you never needed more bandwidth, why do you care?
There's distinction of being punished because you did something wrong yourself and there's being punished as a group because of someone else' mistake. If I can have 10 GB a month, I want to keep it at 10 GB a month irregardless of whether I used it up, it's the principle that counts: I signed up knowing there's 10 GB a month of bandwidth and it needs to stay that way.
Ok so I just got the evo and I'm I. Love I had a moment b4 this and the the pre and the moment was very disappointing but the evo defined did the trick for Mr any way I'm very new to this whole rooting and hacking so I don't kno to much info or where to go get the info I was wonder if there there was a way I could use the hotspot feature without paying 29.99 so if anyone has any info or can point me in the right direction that would be great thanks in advance
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You would need to root your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/Guides_&_Tutorials
Please read up on it before you actually do it. Read the stickies at the top of each forum.
I did this literally 5 minutes ago. I have all the recent updates, and used unrevoked.
http://unrevoked.com/recovery/
The whole process took less than 5 minutes.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
Download that .apk, install and boom.
Thanks for the info fmedina2, im new to the evo and everything 2, but since the link is currently not working. If I root my phone is there a possibility my phone could break or not work properly?
Sprint really doesn't bust users for pulling down hotspot quantity data-activity without paying the $30/mo Mobile Hotspot fee ?
I put 2.1 back on my friend's phone. Now he gets to use the sprint hotspot for free. For some reason he doesn't like free tether, but I do.
IFMISM said:
I put 2.1 back on my friend's phone. Now he gets to use the sprint hotspot for free. For some reason he doesn't like free tether, but I do.
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If you root then apply Calkulin's usb tether fix, it will also make the native Hotspot app work. The fix disables authentification for both wired and wireless tethering.
Personally, I think that the way these phones hog data out of the box that it would be hard for sprint accuse you of unauthrized tethering unless you were doing something like using the phone as your primary internrt connection.
I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.
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I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.
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This. I pushed upwards of 11GB worth of data in m first month with no hassle.
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I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.
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This. I pushed upwards of 11GB worth of data in m first month with no hassle.
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Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth.
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Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth.
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You're absolutely right. I'm rooted, and CAN tether for free, but I pay the $29.99 anyway because it's the right thing to do. If you are using it for a lot of data (your main connection), you should pay for it.
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I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.
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if you do ghetto things like that, you'll live just that kind of life.
good luck with that...
sobis1dm said:
This. I pushed upwards of 11GB worth of data in m first month with no hassle.
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Get ready for tiered data plans.
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Hahaha you should pay for it? Why because they tell you too? Hey simple man root your phone thru unrevoked(easy as hell) then use pdanet or caulkins method or flash a rom that has it already integrated.
Hey your paying an extra $10 for extra bandwith so use it. Why pay $40 more now to stream on your phone..hey AT&T is 15 a month for dsl a year...so it may be right but it ain't smart..... Also I believe unlimited bandwith is for aircards and not for wireless. There is a thread discussing that. At the end of the day too each his own....
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P.S. I don't abuse or really use tethering but I don't see the problem. I don't use 90% of the internet based stuff on my phone but I pay the $10 and don't complain...
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Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth[/url].
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Get ready for tiered data plans.
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The reason I came to Sprint is because they allow it, and every rep I've talked to knows this. What good is the ability to push unlimited data (which, please, most people here can burn 11GB in a day, let alone a month) if you're morally restricted to limiting yourself to the competition's tiers anyways? Sprint's angle against the Big Two has been unlimited data for a long time now, and they're not going to switch it. If they do, I can promise you that the reason is NOT some guy using PDANet and watching a lot of streaming football while he's at work.
My 2 cents: our ten dollar a month 4g fee....covers truly unlimited data, at least that's how sprint justifies it. Even though I have used upwards of 9 gigs without ever touching tether. 10 or 15 is not that bad, imo.tiered plans are a scare tactic . Att feels the pain of that already. Hardcore users have started jumping ship now that they realize 2 gigs is nothing the more they use their phones.
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My 2 cents: our ten dollar a month 4g fee....covers truly unlimited data, at least that's how sprint justifies it. Even though I have used upwards of 9 gigs without ever touching tether. 10 or 15 is not that bad, imo.tiered plans are a scare tactic . Att feels the pain of that already. Hardcore users have started jumping ship now that they realize 2 gigs is nothing the more they use their phones.
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You're right in that 2GB really is nothing nowadays. Sprint offers On Demand television, live sporting events, and devices with screens big enough to actually utilize these things; and when Netflix comes to Android, do they really think users will stay within 2-5GB?
Even without Netflix or tethering, Evo can burn through caps like noone's business on push alone. The phone was built and marketed as a multimedia powerhouse - stream HD, refresh your FriendStream every 15 minutes, push the news, get your email, upload huge photos from your 8MP cam, all within a few swipes.
It makes sense for Sprint to cap the non-premium data users, and just use that as an incentive to make $10/mo from that many more customers. But seriously, companies really should start focusing on making the network's capacities better - not limiting the consumer.
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Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth.
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I second that!!
We aren't losing unlimited bandwidth. We pay extra for not having 4G in our areas aka a 'richer data experience'.
This is that richer data experience. Tether it up.
Please respond here if you are using the portable wifi feature of your nexus one and getting any SMS or e-mail notification from AT&T that they want you to pay for tethering.
I hear stories about people who get the "unlimited" data plan and then straight up abuse it (by providing internet for their entire household), which is probably why this is happening.
150+GB a month is what I consider abuse btw.
I don't see why you should pay for tethering. I think its just another way for them to make more money. Maybe for some people they don't wanna pay to have a separate internet source when they can use their phones as their internet source. I don't tether since atm I don't have unlimited data lol.
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Should be free and only pay for data...just another reason why I left at$t years ago!
I have T-Mobile and as of right now my "unlimited" is still unlimited but once you exceed 5GB for the month is DRAMATICALLY slows down.
I just moved in to a new place with my wife and son and I'm trying to cut down on extra bills (I'm the only working parent right now) so I don't have internet, I just tether off my phone.
I just exceeded 5GB for the first time ever and its horrible. I'm moving so slow, on my phone that is, its unreal.
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I have T-Mobile and as of right now my "unlimited" is still unlimited but once you exceed 5GB for the month is DRAMATICALLY slows down.
I just moved in to a new place with my wife and son and I'm trying to cut down on extra bills (I'm the only working parent right now) so I don't have internet, I just tether off my phone.
I just exceeded 5GB for the first time ever and its horrible. I'm moving so slow, on my phone that is, its unreal.
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That is a bummer and I'm in simular boat...
Check this work around info for some possible help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863923
The only people getting flagged are iPhone accounts that are extreme abusers.
If you are abusing the service that much, then you should be paying for the higher package IMO.
I tether on my unlimited plan and have never had a problem, but I also don't abuse it. I barely break 1gb a month.
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The only people getting flagged are iPhone accounts that are extreme abusers.
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Because iOS's silly separate tethering config makes it easy to know exactly how much it's getting used. Not so simple on phones that route tethered data through the normal APN.
Yeah, I use tethering on my N1 on AT&T everyday and I haven't gotten anything from them yet. I don't abuse it, but where my house is, sort of in the woods (in Pennsylvania) where I can't get anything better than dial-up, so I use it just for basic email, Facebook, etc.
3UK now offer "all you can eat" data on Pay as you go. i plan to swap my T-Mobile SIM to my old 3 after this contract is up, i really hope the plan is still available then as i can see this being abused from day one!!
I tether my tablet to my phone almost daily, but it's pretty small usage. I am only using 300-400 megs a month on 3G now since AT&T took my unlimited away when they screwed with my account a while back. I mostly update or do stuff on wifi at home.
machina77 said:
3UK now offer "all you can eat" data on Pay as you go. i plan to swap my T-Mobile SIM to my old 3 after this contract is up, i really hope the plan is still available then as i can see this being abused from day one!!
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They don't allow tethering on PAYG. Same as Giffgaff, unlimited data without FUP, but no tethering.
I got a similar message from Cincinnati Bell Wireless, but they have not charged me. I don't really use tethering all that much.
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They don't allow tethering on PAYG. Same as Giffgaff, unlimited data without FUP, but no tethering.
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Ah! cheers for that info
Doesn't mean they'll ever notice you doing it, of course
XDA is no longer worth my time.
What I am having trouble understanding is what evidence is at&t Mobility using to determine if one is tethering or not.
They have a few choices, but as far as I can tell, none of them are perfect and all will have false positives.
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In the last few days Tmo has been redirecting me to buy that stupid hotspot service when i try to hot spot my work computer. I tried Clockworkmod's tether app, and got the same ****. Im in the process of downloading CM9's nightly, im hoping when i flash ill be back to getting what i pay for.
But if it doesnt, and since its a redirect i doubt flashing a rom will help, does anyone know how to get around it?
I dont understand why yu want to get it free. You are allowing your phone to give internet access to multiple devices thereby increasing bandwidth usage compared to how much youd overall use by accessing data services on your phone alone (hence throttling)Explain how it should be free?.
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You can get the five gigs plus tether for thirty bucks. Quit being cheap. Compared to other carriers we have it good.
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Having to work for tmobile is awesome . Having a dealer line and unlimited data access is amazing. I'm just happy
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monkeypaws said:
I dont understand why yu want to get it free. You are allowing your phone to give internet access to multiple devices thereby increasing bandwidth usage compared to how much youd overall use by accessing data services on your phone alone (hence throttling)Explain how it should be free?.
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Im already paying for data plan permonth. I shouldnt have to pay for it twice. Having to pay for tethering is a straight up money grab, i dont care how cool Tmo is (and they are a great company), i dont think i should have to pay twice for the data im already using and paying for.
Oskiee said:
Im already paying for data plan permonth. I shouldnt have to pay for it twice. Having to pay for tethering is a straight up money grab, i dont care how cool Tmo is (and they are a great company), i dont think i should have to pay twice for the data im already using and paying for.
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So if you have 2 phones on your account you should only have to pay for data on one if them but get it on both? By your logic that would be the same thing...
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Data is data. Who cares, other than providers, where it's going?
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xsteven77x said:
You can get the five gigs plus tether for thirty bucks. Quit being cheap. Compared to other carriers we have it good.
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I tether fine with my 5gig data plan without getting any hotpost messages
On the 5GB and 10GB plans, you can get tethering for free. One of the things I love about Tmo.
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So if you have 2 phones on your account you should only have to pay for data on one if them but get it on both? By your logic that would be the same thing...
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If he has unlimited data yes. If a customer has a 2gb hspa+ and unlimited edge after, who cares whether it's his phone or comp using the data? Charging for tethering is just charging for the service not the data. And considering a simple free app can do that service why should he pay extra?
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Data is data. Ones and zeros are ones and zeros. Im paying for ones and zeros. Not to mention i rarely use tethering at all, i just want it handy for that "every once in a while." $15 a month doesnt constitute that. Nor does it constitute using one of them "shared" bull **** that is $15 a month just to enable my phone to do it and use up the same data pool. Its a money grab and i refuse to pay for it.
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Data is data. Who cares, other than providers, where it's going?
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This is right. You are already paying for your 2GBs, you should be able to use it as you want. Because at the end of the day, your going to get throttled once you hit your limit.
so even if your using just your phone, or a hotspot the data you use with the devices don't change.
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If I'm not browsing on my laptop then I'm just going to pick up my phone and do it that way. How does that allow me to use an unfair amount? Data limits are still in place on my "unlimited" line.
Oskiee said:
In the last few days Tmo has been redirecting me to buy that stupid hotspot service when i try to hot spot my work computer. I tried Clockworkmod's tether app, and got the same ****. Im in the process of downloading CM9's nightly, im hoping when i flash ill be back to getting what i pay for.
But if it doesnt, and since its a redirect i doubt flashing a rom will help, does anyone know how to get around it?
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T-Mobile didn't "figure you out" - most tethering is easily detectable. It's a matter of "does T-Mobile care enough to do anything about it?" ... Until recently, that answer was no.
The information to get around T-Mobile's tethering detection is available in this forum (read: search for it). I'll give you a hint: the user agent gives you away.
monkeypaws said:
I dont understand why yu want to get it free. You are allowing your phone to give internet access to multiple devices thereby increasing bandwidth usage compared to how much youd overall use by accessing data services on your phone alone (hence throttling)Explain how it should be free?.
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Do you own Tmobile stock?! What difference does it make? You know some of us are irritated that we are paying for unlimited data with at&t and we aren't able to tether our laptops every once in awhile. I have no need for tethering 95% of the time. But when I'm on the road and I need to check something on a flash website it is nice to be able to use my laptop. I shouldn't have to lose unlimited data AND have my data bill go up 66% just because I need to tether 15 times a year. You know if they said hey if you are going to be traveling pay us $5 and we will let you tether for a month I would say fine.
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Do you own Tmobile stock?! What difference does it make? You know some of us are irritated that we are paying for unlimited data with at&t and we aren't able to tether our laptops every once in awhile. I have no need for tethering 95% of the time. But when I'm on the road and I need to check something on a flash website it is nice to be able to use my laptop. I shouldn't have to lose unlimited data AND have my data bill go up 66% just because I need to tether 15 times a year. You know if they said hey if you are going to be traveling pay us $5 and we will let you tether for a month I would say fine.
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I used to get the nasty emails from Ma Bell until I started using USB exclusively and Opera browser (uses a proxy). Ever since then, I've never gotten another one.
Seriously just pay for it with tmo.. Its like the people that pirate apk's... its a couple bucks for those and its like, why waste the time?
You "righteous" dudes are missing the point. I totally understand what the OP is saying. If I'm already paying for a certain amount of data, who gives a damn HOW it is used. In the end I'm STILL using the amount of data I paid for. Nothing more, nothing less. Charging for that is just like double billing in my opinion. These providers will do ANYTHING to milk more money out of the consumer.
Tmob is a business, not a non profit orginization. it's not like charging for the service is done just to "rob" consumers, if it wasn't for everyone expecting everything for free I think technological advancements would be in a completely different place. We only hinder ourselves with our sense of entitlement. I get the point of only tethering so often, but again, few ruin it for the many and use their phone as a modem for Netflix. Too bad it's in our nature to exploit everything. Just sayin
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Jlarsen5 said:
Tmob is a business, not a non profit orginization. it's not like charging for the service is done just to "rob" consumers, if it wasn't for everyone expecting everything for free I think technological advancements would be in a completely different place. We only hinder ourselves with our sense of entitlement. I get the point of only tethering so often, but again, few ruin it for the many and use their phone as a modem for Netflix. Too bad it's in our nature to exploit everything. Just sayin
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I do not believe issues such as this to be an unwarranted sense of entitlement. I have been an "unlimited" data user at At&T since 2005 - back when tethering was included in data. It was so little an issue back then I once called AT&T to ask for help setting up my Blackberry 7100.
For me to continue using my phone to tether win I switched to an iPhone, they tried to upsell me to a tethering plan, and the same when I briefly used a focus. I told them then, and I will tell them now, that as long as the plan that we BOTH agreed to regarding my ToS say that tethering is indeed included in my data plan - its not an entitlement, it is a right protected by the contract I had to sign while buying my beloved 8125.
The OP's individual situation may be different than this - but in all reality, if there is no abuse of the data caps on the users end - charging extra for tethering is in really bad taste from any of the carriers. It is NOT a service that they provide - it's a well established feature withing operating systems of the phones they sell. If that is unacceptable to them, then stop selling smartphones and go back to series Nokia 6125's. Then offer the 3g/4g hotspots as their own service so there is no longer a redundancy between smartphones and hotspots. Charging for both is just plain stupid.
Especially if the data plan I pay for has more than covered the data I use. I tether my laptop and tablet once or twice a week, and have not come close to the 5GB "softcap". If I'm not going over my limit, Who the heck are you to tell me I'm abusing the network? Leave me alone and go bother the jerk who's torrenting 720p movies on Friday night.
I posted this on reddit aswell... I usually follow xda/reddit (android) closely and haven't heard of this so i thought i would warn others.
Well i had a feeling this day would finally come, a frustratingly sad day. This is my story so i don't know how prevalent it may be. I am running a galaxy note 3. I am part of the originally "unlimited data plan" that i have been grandfathering the past few years. My galaxy note 3 is rooted and using a SafeStrap based custom rom. Ofcourse it has all the nice tweaks/xposed modules that i have learn to love in the android community. Ofcourse it enables tethering.
I don't use tethering often (mainly when i dont have Wifi, or if in public to avoid crappy wifi coverage). So i mainly use 1-2 gb a month of random google music tethering/other misc downloads updates... so i am NOT being an excessive user. So my total usage is between 2.5-3 gigs. I was contacted from AT&T yesterday (by text 2-3 days ago, phone call yesterday). They gave an ultimatum. They called out explicitly that i was using unauthorized tether (not using a large amount of data as you can see).
The ultimatum was:
Your service is been cancelled at the end of the month.
OR
Moving to the "Family Plan" shared/capped data plan. They also required tethering to be added on to the plan since i was using it.
This is old news. The release of Android 4.1 enabled carriers to see the difference between using data, and redistributing or tethering data.
There are work arounds for this. Some devs even remove this feature from their roms. You have to do your research on it though.
This is still good info though for new users.
Wow wish they would have threatened to cancel my service. I would have said thanks.
I just switched to the mobile share 8gb plan, which includes mobile hotspot, and have never gone over 6gb for the whole family ever with my old plan with 4 lines having 3gb and my unlimited costing nearly 400 a month now costs around 300. I don't think its too bad.
440bro said:
This is old news. The release of Android 4.1 enabled carriers to see the difference between using data, and redistributing or tethering data.
There are work arounds for this. Some devs even remove this feature from their roms. You have to do your research on it though.
This is still good info though for new users.
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would it be frowned upon if you posted said information?
jonrobertd said:
Wow wish they would have threatened to cancel my service. I would have said thanks.
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If they cancel your service you have to pay off the remainder of your contract agreement. For some it might not be to bad. But for someone that just renewed it could be costly!
krushin said:
I posted this on reddit aswell... I usually follow xda/reddit (android) closely and haven't heard of this so i thought i would warn others.
Well i had a feeling this day would finally come, a frustratingly sad day. This is my story so i don't know how prevalent it may be. I am running a galaxy note 3. I am part of the originally "unlimited data plan" that i have been grandfathering the past few years. My galaxy note 3 is rooted and using a SafeStrap based custom rom. Ofcourse it has all the nice tweaks/xposed modules that i have learn to love in the android community. Ofcourse it enables tethering.
I don't use tethering often (mainly when i dont have Wifi, or if in public to avoid crappy wifi coverage). So i mainly use 1-2 gb a month of random google music tethering/other misc downloads updates... so i am NOT being an excessive user. So my total usage is between 2.5-3 gigs. I was contacted from AT&T yesterday (by text 2-3 days ago, phone call yesterday). They gave an ultimatum. They called out explicitly that i was using unauthorized tether (not using a large amount of data as you can see).
The ultimatum was:
Your service is been cancelled at the end of the month.
OR
Moving to the "Family Plan" shared/capped data plan. They also required tethering to be added on to the plan since i was using it.
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Hotspot shield from the play store really helps in this situation...
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FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
Da_G said:
110gb this cycle (8 days left)
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Geez. You have no idea how jealous I'm of people who still have Unlimited Data.
Thank you for making AT&T pay for being douche of a carrier. :good:
Da_G said:
FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
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haha good man
I'd stick to the atrix unless you know you can spoof/vpn the traffic (or what ever preventative measures). Just frustrating cause i dont even abuse my tether... like 3 gigs a month on an unlimited plan (and using unauthorized tethering)... they should pay me for NOT abusing it... lol.
Needless to say... now there is nothing "keeping" me at ATT once my contract is up... since i dont have my unlimited plan anymore! Hopefully in next year or so the other carriers (tmobile/sprint) will be just as good at half the price... i dont mind an ocassional dropped call/spotty coverage if it means i'm paying half :good:
Edit: Also made this post so others will know... so they don't "lose" unlimited plan and get screwed if they are new to the scene
Da_G said:
FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
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Please share your secret with me!!! I hit 5gb's and AT&T throttles me so hard it takes 10 minutes to download a 4mb app from the Play Store.
Da_G said:
FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
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110 GB?! What are you doing with your phone? Streaming 4K video 24/7?
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Da_G said:
FWIW i'm at 110gb this cycle (8 days left) which is rather typical of my usage and haven't heard a peep. I use a Motorola Atrix running CM as a mobile hotspot, rather than my G Note 3, however.
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I have these phones. Looks like I'll be flashing back to gingerbread! Woo! No more battery drain from experimental jelly bean.
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krushin said:
haha good man
I'd stick to the atrix unless you know you can spoof/vpn the traffic (or what ever preventative measures). Just frustrating cause i dont even abuse my tether... like 3 gigs a month on an unlimited plan (and using unauthorized tethering)... they should pay me for NOT abusing it... lol.
Needless to say... now there is nothing "keeping" me at ATT once my contract is up... since i dont have my unlimited plan anymore! Hopefully in next year or so the other carriers (tmobile/sprint) will be just as good at half the price... i dont mind an ocassional dropped call/spotty coverage if it means i'm paying half :good:
Edit: Also made this post so others will know... so they don't "lose" unlimited plan and get screwed if they are new to the scene
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T mobile will pay your early termination fees if you want out of your contract.
http://www.t-mobile.com/offer/switch-carriers-no-early-termination-fee.html
To the Op, are you 100% certain that this is you very FIRST time being contacted by AT&T? I ask ask you because along with myself and several of my former GS2 users we received messages from AT&T telling us that they saw that we were tethering and told us to stop or be forced to a tethering plan.So I chose to stop and not lose my unlimited plan. We all were on unlimited and I'm still on unlimited on my Note 3.
DA_G what APN are you using on your atrix. May worth a try for those of us running SS ROMs and can change APN.
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440bro said:
T mobile will pay your early termination fees if you want out of your contract.
Only works if you give up your current phone and buy t mobile ones for a monthly charge.
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I must have been a lucky one! BUT NOT AT THE SAME TIME!
krushin said:
I posted this on reddit aswell... I usually follow xda/reddit (android) closely and haven't heard of this so i thought i would warn others.
Well i had a feeling this day would finally come, a frustratingly sad day. This is my story so i don't know how prevalent it may be. I am running a galaxy note 3. I am part of the originally "unlimited data plan" that i have been grandfathering the past few years. My galaxy note 3 is rooted and using a SafeStrap based custom rom. Ofcourse it has all the nice tweaks/xposed modules that i have learn to love in the android community. Ofcourse it enables tethering.
I don't use tethering often (mainly when i dont have Wifi, or if in public to avoid crappy wifi coverage). So i mainly use 1-2 gb a month of random google music tethering/other misc downloads updates... so i am NOT being an excessive user. So my total usage is between 2.5-3 gigs. I was contacted from AT&T yesterday (by text 2-3 days ago, phone call yesterday). They gave an ultimatum. They called out explicitly that i was using unauthorized tether (not using a large amount of data as you can see).
The ultimatum was:
Your service is been cancelled at the end of the month.
OR
Moving to the "Family Plan" shared/capped data plan. They also required tethering to be added on to the plan since i was using it.
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I was warned about 3 times about tethering with my phone. I too am an original unlimited data plan grandfathered in at $30 Bucks a MONTH! MUHAHAHA! The 1st time it happened it said on my bill "TETHERWARN" $0.00
Kind of scared me a bit but I continued to do it anyway and received 2 more warnings this way. I guess because it was only for a couple MB of data here and there. Some months nothing and other months just a tiny bit because I was scared at that point. Didn't want to lose my unlimited plan. :victory:
Unfortunately I found out we really don't have TRUE unlimited data anyway. After you go over 4.5GB used for the month you will receive a text message saying after 5GB you will be throttled big time!!! I was so SHOCKED by this! I can't believe I'm really only getting 5GB of data when it's supposed to be unlimited. I guess they changed everything after the family share crap started.
Figured I'd share this if anyone still has the grandfathered "Unlimited Data" plan. THEY ARE LIARS!
PS. I still tether THOUGH!! I have a windows surface tablet and use PDA NET for desktop and the FOXFI app in the play store! I can ONLY tether using bluetooth or USB though because the WiFi tether is disabled in settings now, which doesn't really bother me because it is fast enough to browse the web or even play World of Warcraft with the bluetooth tether option. It is actually decently fast with USB tether also. HERE'S THE BEST PART! PDA NET SCRUBS all PC data from the packets sent and received! There is an advanced addon feature you can download from FOXFI that does this for you. The free version shuts off at 50MB of data transferred and you just have to click the checkbox off and back on to get it to reconnect for an addition 50MB. OR, you can pay the 7 or 8 bucks for the full version and never be interrupted. I'm about to buy it because I haven't received any TETHER WARNS from att since I started using PDA NET! I think it does the scrubbing of PC data from the packets very well. I drive for a living so tethering for me is mandatory on my windows tablet. So if you are about to lose your data plan JUST BE CAREFUL and do your research! There is always a way with computers! Hoped this helps someone...Thanks for reading and sorry this is so LONGGGGGGGG!
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I still tether THOUGH!! I have a windows surface tablet and use PDA NET for desktop and the FOXFI app in the play store! PDA NET SCRUBS all PC data from the packets sent and received! There is an advanced addon feature you can download from FOXFI that does this for you. The free version shuts off at 50MB of data transferred and you just have to click the checkbox off and back on to get it to reconnect for an addition 50MB. OR, you can pay the 7 or 8 bucks for the full version and never be interrupted.
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This was what I've been looking for! Thank you.
I also have a grandfathered data plan, and get throttled after ~4.5GB of use. I've received several warnings about tethering but thankfully my family plan wasnt botched - I've just had to stop tethering... Until Now! PDA Net FTW.
Question!
If you tether from one ATT phone to another ATT phone or tablet (but not ATT), can they tell? (without having to use PDA NET)
krushin said:
I posted this on reddit aswell... I usually follow xda/reddit (android) closely and haven't heard of this so i thought i would warn others.
Well i had a feeling this day would finally come, a frustratingly sad day. This is my story so i don't know how prevalent it may be. I am running a galaxy note 3. I am part of the originally "unlimited data plan" that i have been grandfathering the past few years. My galaxy note 3 is rooted and using a SafeStrap based custom rom. Ofcourse it has all the nice tweaks/xposed modules that i have learn to love in the android community. Ofcourse it enables tethering.
I don't use tethering often (mainly when i dont have Wifi, or if in public to avoid crappy wifi coverage). So i mainly use 1-2 gb a month of random google music tethering/other misc downloads updates... so i am NOT being an excessive user. So my total usage is between 2.5-3 gigs. I was contacted from AT&T yesterday (by text 2-3 days ago, phone call yesterday). They gave an ultimatum. They called out explicitly that i was using unauthorized tether (not using a large amount of data as you can see).
The ultimatum was:
Your service is been cancelled at the end of the month.
OR
Moving to the "Family Plan" shared/capped data plan. They also required tethering to be added on to the plan since i was using it.
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I received and email like that a couple of years ago except they told me to stop or else. Needless to say, I stopped.
That is a good question. I really don't know for certain because I no longer use my nexus 7 anymore since I got my windows surface. I do believe PDA Net has an android version which I would assume does the same thing as my desktop version. But then if you consider it's a mobile device with no PC info to scrub(I think that was your question) it might just look like it's your actual phone using that data. Really is a good question that I cannot answer with certainty. Sorry, I can't help with that one. :what::what::what::what:
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