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Can we please sign up for official beta testing froyo, we don't want cash just a free device every 2 years.
Lets make it official, sign on if you would like to be included
Please leave cynicism out of this thread.
Its cheap labour as it is
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tbh i would test if for lot less NOW!
ten chars!!!
Are there beta testers for devices or android systems?
If not I am not sure why pc apps use beta testing and not android
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I'll be more than happy to try out any alpha & beta releases of any Android products
just being able to play with the latest and greatest is more than enough joy for me
Moved to General forum. The development forum is only for development threads. (Threads with actual development happening.)
Questions should always be in the General forums (or Q&A if your device has a Q&A forum.)
I would be very interested in testing for free devices
Add me to the list.
I'd love to do some beta testing!!!
dan 6a said:
Are there beta testers for devices or android systems?
If not I am not sure why pc apps use beta testing and not android
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yeah, samsung calls them customers
Would be cool of this came off, count me in.
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안녕하세요 삼성. 저도 Beta 시험하고싶습니다. 많은 도움이될겁니다. Hi Samsung, I'd love to beta test any of your programs for the Galaxy S. I have the Vibrant from T-Mo. Thanks~
hope this works typed in Korean as well haha..
I'd test my brains out if you ask me. Count me in too
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You can definitely count me in
alpha testing Android 3.0 is also ok
I'm sure plenty of people around here would be interested in such a scheme, myself included! As to whether it would come to pass..
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Please leave cynicism out of this thread.
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Seriously? Please? I think this thread needs a pretty epic dose of it.
It would be great if there was an employee of Samsung / HTC / other phone manufacturers as a contact point between the dev community and the manufacturers themselves.
Eg: to look through forums such as this, see what everyone's saying, keep us posted on news and dates and seek honest feedback from us.
The only people who look through XDA are those interested in modding and installing custom firmwares anyway, so regular consumers would gain the benefit of us testing the stuff out without them having to be aware of it.
Plus, one of the deciding factors of many enthusiasts when buying a new Android phone is the dev community and support, so you can guarantee they would gain at least a few more sales from those interested.
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It would be great if there was an employee of Samsung / HTC / other phone manufacturers as a contact point between the dev community and the manufacturers themselves.
Eg: to look through forums such as this, see what everyone's saying, keep us posted on news and dates and seek honest feedback from us.
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That will make them way too vurnerable and the benefits will never justify the costs. The game they play is how to make as much as profit as one can. From that perspective things are good if and only if the sales figures are good. So, for them, sales figures are all the feedback they need
If they did do such a scheme, it would be in Korea.
Hi all app developers,
The new XAppDbg tool from Sony (eXtra Application Debugging tool) lets you try out different parameters in your app without the need to rebuild the code for every change. For example, this can be really useful when you fine tune the UI of your app.
Feel free to have a look at the open source project and contribute to make it even better!
https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/XAppDbg
Get the full story on Developer World.
/Pál Szász
SW developer at Sony
Thanks for this pal! A great tool for mobile app developers out there.
This is pretty damn genius. Big ups, Sony!
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UPDATE: This just hit front page!
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...tool-for-debugging-and-fine-tuning-your-apps/
A thousand reason on why to buy a Sony phone
I want to work for Sony once i'm done with college <3
This thread deserves more attention than it's getting
Great tool...Thanks for sharing it
It's fantastic! OEM of the year... not casually!
It is good to see Sony supporting developers that much.
got an X8, Neo... next sure Sony's phone too
dear pal, thanks for sharing such a wonderfull tool! :good:
you're freakin swot - and i like it!
can't wait to try it out.
regards and greetings to the sony hive! :highfive:
Pal, you've possibly just swayed me to pickup an Xperia as my next device. I'm not even a developer, but this kind of support for the community makes me want to give you my money. Please keep up the great work!
Bump for the awesomeness of sony open source.
Thanks a lot, it's really good stuff.
Thanks, that;s really help developer a lot
Nice move Sony, thanks you for all the devs that will use it.
It's weird to me to say thanks Sony, because Sony means DRM most of the time, it's a good step to share that way, thanks thanks thanks !
Regards
@pal.szasz, why don't give us XDA-Sony users things like easy root, tools for decompiling your apks which come with new issues every other FW release, those are things the majority of users here would like to see.
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@pal.szasz, why don't give us XDA-Sony users things like easy root, tools for decompiling your apks which come with new issues every other FW release, those are things the majority of users here would like to see.
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* easy root: giving root access is impossible for many reasons, legal reasons being one of them. However we do support unlocking the bootloader, which allows you to install custom roms which have easy root access
* tool for decompiling the APKs: http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...o-analyse-your-apks-now-released-open-source/
Good Topic!
I have posted a new thread at Sony Mobile Support requesting they support 2011 devices with KitKat, as apparently they announced they will update 2012 devices to kitkat.
Or, if Sony will not support the 2011 devices as they are beyond 18 months old, they should release the sources and let the dev community go to town.
Here is the thread at Sony Mobile Support, I would like all users to just take two minutes and voice your feedback in encouraging Sony to either update our PLAY or better yet, release all sources so that devs may do updates such as KitKat 4.4 to our PLAY.
Sony Mobile Support Thread:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...Xperia-devices-Xperia-PLAY/m-p/430889#U430889
Thank you and please show your support through the link above, I have informed Sony of this thread but if you all can please kindly post your comments on the thread above. If Sony doesnt see the comments of encouragement then they wont see it as worth it, in either way.
Edit - I am leaning towards Sony releasing sources as this will cost them nothing or a lot less then paying staff to make the 4.4 software upgrade and beta test it. Sources would be a lot more feasible, plus it would allow everyone to benefit with full access to our PLAY.
EDIT 2 - From Big_Smile, he made a very good suggestion to better our chances:
"Also, it would be a good idea to post your messages on Sundar Pichai's Google plus as he is the head of Google Android.
In order to use Android with Google services, manufactures have to follow certain rules that Google makes.
We should ask Sundar Pichai to compel manufacturers to release source files for older devices.
You can see my post asking him to do this here:
https://plus.google.com/+SundarPichai/posts/74nXKEeeMRx
(I've used my name Madhu Sharma).
If you agree, please +1 my comment but also post your own comment as well.
Unlike contacting Sony, this probably does have a good chance of becoming a reality if lots of people participate. Google do tend to listen and if it happened, they would make more money as more people would have access to their services.
Again, it only takes a few minutes to participate and this really could make a difference for everyone."
Thank you Big_Smile.
I forgot to add a Poll for this thread, any chance to still add it? I dont see it as an option.. after I made the first post.
Edit - Got the POLL Running
One more thing:
If everyone can select to vote to have this thread detailed on XDA Portal to gain attention that would great. See attached photo if you are unsure how to vote this thread on XDA Portal.
I have contributed to the thread. I don't think it will do anything, but I think everyone should try.
It only takes a second (and you can login in with Gmail and Facebook, so you don't even need to set up an account).
You never know, if Sony gets a lot of requests, they will take action.
Also, post your message here as well:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/support/contact-us/contact-form/Other/en_GB/
Again, it probably won't do anything but it is worth a try and will only take a minute. Companies like Sony are always trying to find ways to show that they listen (as it earns them good publicity).
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Also, it would be a good idea to post your messages on Sundar Pichai's Google plus as he is the head of Google Android.
In order to use Android with Google services, manufactures have to follow certain rules that Google makes.
We should ask Sundar Pichai to compel manufacturers to release source files for older devices.
You can see my post asking him to do this here:
https://plus.google.com/116651741222993143554/posts/74nXKEeeMRx
(I've used my name Madhu Sharma).
If you agree, please +1 my comment but also post your own comment as well.
Unlike contacting Sony, this probably does have a good chance of becoming a reality if lots of people participate. Google do tend to listen and if it happened, they would make more money as more people would have access to their services.
Again, it only takes a few minutes to participate and this really could make a difference for everyone.
i doubt they will support it they wont support my xperia t which is 1.5ghz snapdragon s4 and 1gb of ram. this was their last 2012 flagship so they won't update any 2012 devices probably only 2013
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At Big_Smile, that is an excellent idea and would stand a better chance then contacting Sony head on. I will add your suggestion to post 1 soon as I have a chance
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Per Big_Smile's link to Sundar Pichai, I have added the following to his, please see attached.
Link to:
https://plus.google.com/+SundarPichai/posts/74nXKEeeMRx
Edit - Added this thread to my Google+ post reply to Big_Smile.
I think another good idea would to be raise this issue on "This Week in Google" (TWiG).
TWiG is a podcast about Google & Android, that is often viewed by people who work at Google.
I have made a post on the TWiG Google Plus Community:
https://plus.google.com/115434784269286841659/posts/4GQVrDtLhTV
If you agree with what I have written, please +1 it and add your own comments and ideas.
I think if the post got around 50 - 100 +1s, there's a good chance someone from the show might notice it and so might consider discuss it on the next episode.
Again, it's a long shot, but it would only take a few minutes to contribute and it could stand a good chance of making 4.4 available for not just the Xperia Play, but many other older phones. As I've discussed in my Plus post, this could help a lot of people (and not just Play users).
Unlike other companies, Google does listen, so if we raise this issue in lots of places, there's a good chance that they might act on it.
good ! waiting for ur news
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I want ask all people, that want to post SUBJ request without stupid words to update firmwares for phones. Just ask to open ALL sources, so community can do all work.
I'm all for the sources but telling them to update a very outdated phone is a little much.
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JunDavis said:
I'm all for the sources but telling them to update a very outdated phone is a little much.
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Hence thatz why I am hoping for sources.
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Added my 2 cents all over
Do you think we should start a petition on change.org @OP?
from the God of gaming, the Xperia Play
Why ya keep asking for upgrade? IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Understand this already. Only thing, that *may* hapeen - opening sources of GB drivrs. Thats enough for communities of all old phones, so all people must focus on it, not on asking for upgrade, that, as said, WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
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Why ya keep asking for upgrade? IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Understand this already. Only thing, that *may* hapeen - opening sources of GB drivrs. Thats enough for communities of all old phones, so all people must focus on it, not on asking for upgrade, that, as said, WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
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Y u gotta be so negative? You never know
from the God of gaming, the Xperia Play
This is sony we are talking about who are the second worst manufacturer to give updates (lg is worst) they probably won't update their 2012 devices so what makes you think they will update the play.
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There's nothing wrong with trying. YOU'LL NEVER KNOW THE ANSWER UNLESS YOU TRY. So all of you negas, go somewhere else. You're of no use here.
Just like sony wouldn't give ics to the play yet everyone asked for it
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There's nothing wrong with trying. YOU'LL NEVER KNOW THE ANSWER UNLESS YOU TRY. So all of you negas, go somewhere else. You're of no use here.
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We are not negative, we are only realistic, it is absurd to think that a company will release an update (LOL) or the source code (double LOL) for a device of 2 years ago, it is against their interest.
BTW don't worry, probably I will go away, if I earn sufficient money to change both my laptop and the phone I will go away from the xplay this Christmas, if not sorry but this nega will remain for another year
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Even if they are unlikely to listen, it only takes 2 minutes max to ask them, so it's worth a try. Anyone can spare 2 minutes.
Also, I think the best strategy is to ask Google to force manufacturers to release source code, as they have a financial incentive to do so (as it will further their interests of making Android less fragmented, easier to develop for and making the latest Google Play apps available to all).
Please Everyone from the Desire 816 community or more community's , please take your spare time and sign this petition. To help push virgin mobile into updating a5_chl .... Your signature won't go unseen.
https://mobile.twitter.com/xxminiwhooperxx/status/730980191586136064
Please , would like to develop more here with Android M instead of Lollipop.
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i agree, petention has been singed and posted on my FB. Good luck!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/And...tif_t=group_comment¬if_id=1463333652416807
Hey @xXminiWHOOPERxX i have gone ahead and posted this petition over at one of my facebook android groups to support your cause. You have given a lot to our htc community so here ar emy 2 cents to help you. Hope it helps make a difference
According to this site:
http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-software-updates/#device-content
"This device is currently on Android 5.0 Lollipop. No additional updates are planned at this time."
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According to this site:
http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-software-updates/#device-content
"This device is currently on Android 5.0 Lollipop. No additional updates are planned at this time."
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I think that is the point of the petition. While everyone's done a great job getting MM to work, an official update would extend the life of our phone. There already rolling out N to developers. I signed, only hope it does any good.
Hi guys, today I'm gonna share part of the codes of Sony proprietary camera SW. Via this, developers will get useful knowledges out of this to make the best out of Xperia. The code was partially from stock Lollipop .236 for Xperia Z1, released under Team Project Desire's Project XperiVision.
P/S: Not for ordinary users, for devs only
PP/S: Keep dreaming about it, Sony Mobile legal team...
Download
http://goo.gl/5NgXZf