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S-pen Scratches Screen?!

In a review of the Galaxy note 10.1 written by examiner they claim that when using the S-pen it can scratch you screen, and that it is only visible under the sunlight with the power off.
The worst part about the screen is that the S-Pen actually scratches the screen, which is supposed to be protected by Gorilla Glass. You won't notice the scratches unless you look at the screen with the power off in sunlight, but it is still annoying. Those of you who are desperate enough to buy the Galaxy Note 10.1 may want to invest in a screen cover.
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Can any note owners confirm this?
LINK :http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-tries-hard-but-ultimately-fails

Mine certainly does not have any scratches. At least not yet. I used it a lot so far (like writing a few full pages of notes), so I don't think it should normally be a problem.
Scratches might have happened because some particles between the pen and the screen, not the pen itself.

ugotproblemz said:
In a review of the Galaxy note 10.1 written by examiner they claim that when using the S-pen it can scratch you screen, and that it is only visible under the sunlight with the power off.
Can any note owners confirm this?
LINK :http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-tries-hard-but-ultimately-fails
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I just came to the forums looking for the same answer. I was planning on getting one of these tomorrow but now I want to wait until I hear from people who have them and are using them. Can anyone verify or dispute this claim that the stylus scratches the screen?

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised. Gorilla glass isn't invincible. It's meant to give some leeway for those who do treat they devices carefully. That said, reviewers like these need to keep in mind that there are many factors that can contribute scratches on screens. While Gorilla Glass certainly does not get scratched easily by kitchen knives and blades, it can get scratched by dust. You might think that's impossible, but dust is made up of a lot of different things. There might be a diamond particle in there, who knows? But if you get something that hard and rub it against the Gorilla Glass, it's going to scratch, no questions asked.
I don't think it's the S Pen that scratched their screen, but rather their own carelessness. So to answer you question, is it possible that the S Pen scratched it? Yeah. But likely? Nope.
I don't own a Galaxy Note 10.1 yet, but I just wanted to get this across before people start to freak out about how Gorilla Glass can be scratched.

Its physically impossible for the plastic nib to scratch glass. But like the other guy said, any particles in between the nib and the screen could cause a scratch. I've experienced this myself personally on my Note. Just make sure the screen and nib are clean, and if you're gonna be using the tablet in an environment where it could be subjected to dust particles or whatever, I'd highly recommend a screen protector. Oh, one other thing, what looks like scratches could just be the pen cutting through finger grease on the screen. There have been many times where I thought I got a bunch of little scratches on my screen, but then was relieved to find out that was not the case.
As a sidenote, what's with reviewers these days? It's like they're all doing every thing they can to discredit the Note and make sure it fails.
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Looks like a poor attempt of a review to slate Samsungs new tablet. I wouldn't even call it a review just a rant by someone who dislikes the device from the start. I would ignore it.

So far no scratches on my screen. I have been using it for about two weeks. I do plan on getting a screen protector just in case.
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Now 4 days continously working with S-Pan indoors and outdoors by the pool, even on the beach: no single scratch even when lookung with a magnifying glass.
Some types of grease/lotions make believe it´s a scratch and can be very sticky but can easily be wiped away with a wet cloth and a microsquirt of dishcleaner.
I bought the 10.1 as replacement for my old notebook and it will have a hard life with me

I have both the note 5.3 phone and the 10.1 and neither have scratches from the s pen. I don't have one regret about getting this I pad conqueror!

I've had the Note 5.3 phone since December last year and the screen on it has not a single scratch on it, my 3 year old son likes to draw on the phone with the S Pen and as already mentioned still not a single scratch (knock on wood!).
If you are worried then get a screen protector, I have not yet decided if I will get one myself or if I will just settle with a case/flip case of some sort.
Here is a thread regarding screen protectors for the Note 10.1 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1838473
What I in fact AM worried about is the rear facing camera lens on the Note 10.1, if the "design" is the same as on the Note 5.3 phone (which it seems to be based on pictures), the rear facing camera lens is actually a little bit elevated. So if the Note 10.1 is laying flat on it's back on a desk you better make sure there are no small sharp particles that can scratch the lens on the desk.
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You may use a screen protector to be on the safe side.
Off-topic: is it easy to write in on this tablet, does it recognizes handwriting easily.
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drraptor said:
You may use a screen protector to be on the safe side.
Off-topic: is it easy to write in on this tablet, does it recognizes handwriting easily.
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Check this thread for a video that demonstrates the handwriting - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1840997

Natively, there's only two things that will scratch the display; both within your control. Gorilla Glass scratches with sand and silica. Keep it away from those and you should be fine. If the display and or pen are dirty, there's a chance something on either could cause scratches; potentially bad ones. Keep eye glass cleaning wipes handy to clean both frequently and you should be fine. Either way bad things happen to portable devices sometimes so luck and fate play a role too.

Addendum: although the performance of the SGN10.1 in bright sunlight is very good an antireflective screen protector would be a good idea. On my SGS II and III and Note I have antireflective screen protectors installed.
The disadvantage of these antireflectives is a more blurry screen and loss of "sharpness" which is considerably strong esp. on my SGS III
The most difficult part will be to attach the protector which should be done in a dust free environment to prevent bubbles.
With this protector installed You will never ever have to worry about scratches by sand (beach, desert, sandy environment) or lava-ashes (Pacific fire ring countries, Italy). Nano- and micro-crystals of sand and/or other silica adhere nicely to the grease on the screen from Your fingers and thus might create scratches even on gentle cleaning with a soft cloth.

BarryH_GEG said:
Natively, there's only two things that will scratch the display; both within your control. Gorilla Glass scratches with sand and silica. Keep it away from those and you should be fine. If the display and or pen are dirty, there's a chance something on either could cause scratches; potentially bad ones. Keep eye glass cleaning wipes handy to clean both frequently and you should be fine. Either way bad things happen to portable devices sometimes so luck and fate play a role too.
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Probably some are defective though - mine Asus Trasnformer has many scratches while I never had sand or silica near it. The worst scratch is probably from when it was lying on the table screen down - there was only sugar and some breadcrumbs there. I have also a lot of smaller scratches on the border (outside of screen mostly, but still on the glass). I suspect Gorilla Glass in this unit is a little defective. It's only a theory though. For comparison - I had eye glassess from normal glass for 10 years that I treated without any respect and they didn't have any scratches. Also no scratch on my phone which has to survive worse treatment than the tablet.

freedomispopular said:
Its physically impossible for the plastic nib to scratch glass. But like the other guy said, any particles in between the nib and the screen could cause a scratch. I've experienced this myself personally on my Note. Just make sure the screen and nib are clean, and if you're gonna be using the tablet in an environment where it could be subjected to dust particles or whatever, I'd highly recommend a screen protector. Oh, one other thing, what looks like scratches could just be the pen cutting through finger grease on the screen. There have been many times where I thought I got a bunch of little scratches on my screen, but then was relieved to find out that was not the case.
As a sidenote, what's with reviewers these days? It's like they're all doing every thing they can to discredit the Note and make sure it fails.
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I'm also surprised at the flurry of negative reviews and the tendency to describe the S Pen as a gimmick. At some point, I read that Steve Jobs had rejected the idea of a stylus being useful, on the grounds that people would prefer the simplicity of using a finger. The reasoning makes me think he was envisioning the stylus a la Palm circa 2006, which did little more than navigation. I wonder if reviewers are deferential to Jobs' opinion without examining his reasoning (if the account I encountered is in fact true) -- the Note S Pen offers a lot more utility than the old Palm styli ever did.
Otherwise, I suppose those reviewers must have different purposes in mind for a tablet. The Note 10.1 is my first tablet, as it's the first time I've considered any tablet to offer enough utility above my laptop and smartphone to be worth several hundred dollars.

Jobs was simply a ........ POSER
Maybe he did not even ever work with a Compaq iPac which was an excellent device at it's time (BTW: the Compaq was also "flat with rounded corners" and had an "i" in front of the "Pac" )
He developed devices to the philosophy: take the best hardware developed by other brilliant companies, design the OS as simple as possible (spares a hell of money), check if three year old children get along with the device ( knowing that 90% of the people are too lazy to invest some brains), make Chinese workers assemble the devices for nothing, force consumers to stay in the Apple world, sell it for a hell of money, make a religion of "Apple", and finally go on a Djihad against all companies that make Apple devices possible firsthand.
Like RedBull his only merit was to be an excellent merchandiser.
BTW: EXACTLY THE STYLUS WAS THE REASON FOR ME TO BUY THIS PIECE OF DIGITAL ART

BarryH_GEG said:
Natively, there's only two things that will scratch the display; both within your control. Gorilla Glass scratches with sand and silica. Keep it away from those and you should be fine. If the display and or pen are dirty, there's a chance something on either could cause scratches; potentially bad ones. Keep eye glass cleaning wipes handy to clean both frequently and you should be fine. Either way bad things happen to portable devices sometimes so luck and fate play a role too.
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I can't post links yet, but Google smudgeguard. It is a very useful glove that was created for artist which is a perfect accessory for the note. At $16 it is a good investment IMO. Granted dollar store gloves with the fingers cut would work but these actually look nice and are designed to prevent smudging.

spartan1132 said:
I can't post links yet, but Google smudgeguard. It is a very useful glove that was created for artist which is a perfect accessory for the note. At $16 it is a good investment IMO. Granted dollar store gloves with the fingers cut would work but these actually look nice and are designed to prevent smudging.
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When I wear my smudge guard the Note still registers touches so you're better off with a thicker glove.
I remember seeing one a few months ago aimed toward the iPad crowd. I can't remember the name at the moment though. I'll post back if I remember or find it.
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ugotproblemz said:
In a review of the Galaxy note 10.1 written by examiner they claim that when using the S-pen it can scratch you screen, and that it is only visible under the sunlight with the power off.
Can any note owners confirm this?
LINK :http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-tries-hard-but-ultimately-fails
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We had the same report about the ThinkPad Tablet and I never found it to be true. I've had mine nearly a year, used the pen extensively, and zero scratches with zero screen protector. YMMV If your pen nib is rough then you'll have a problem.

Glass screen protector vs. touchscreen sensitivity

So, I just purchased a glass screen protector for my G2. It's no Spigen ultra thin ultra everything... it's a no name, I guess. Acquired from eBay (China-based seller, of course), for about 3.5 bucks (with slow, but free shipping). There's even Chinese written on the packaging, so it's Chinese alright.
Link Dream Glass-Protector. Cleophobic Coated Chemicaily Treated Glass For Mobile Device Screen.
That's the title. And there are numerous typos all across the packaging. They clearly didn't put much effort into that, but they did some parts right.
The scratch resistance is 9H (so nothing else except sand, glass, diamonds etc. should scratch it - I have a feeling that even metals will scratch it, so I doubt it's 9H), and the thickness is 0.33mm (doesn't say on the packaging, but I know).
Anyway. Delicate touch is advertised (on the bottom of the packaging) - they even say it twice in the four images depicted on the packaging, captioned Oleophobic Coating, Delicate Touch, Whole Transparency, Delicate Touch.
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Well, they got me with the transparency. It's transparent alright. I can't say much about the oleophobic coating - it feels pretty much like any other Gorilla Glass-coated screen feels... I guess. I mean I never really used any of my phones for more than an hour without a screen protector on, and this is the first time I use a glass screen protector, so...
But they didn't quite get me with the delicate touch part. I thought they mean the sensitivity is high (as it is advertised on every screen protector there is, lol). Actually, by delicate touch they probably just mean that the glass feels nicer to the touch, compared to plastic film protectors. Which is entirely true. It even says on the "box" : Smooth touch: the elimination of common sense jerky film touch, feel smoother, more fluent operation.
I just installed this screen protector a few hours ago, and I noticed I can't knock-knock the phone as delicate as I used to in order to wake up the screen (some times). So I'm guessing there is some sensitivity degradation - it's very slight, but it seems to be present...
Alright, tl;dr time. My question is... Is anyone else here having a glass screen protector on their LG G2? If yes, what brand is it, how thick is it, and have you noticed a slight sensitivity degradation since you installed it?

I purchased the panzer glass tempered glass screen protector for what's equivalent to about 33 dollars. It has been on my phone since early January. Honestly I only used my phone for 6 days with the original screen protector (yes, with all the text and stuff - I still found the screen to be gorgeous). I recall losing a bit of sensitivity, but you'll eventually get used to it. Now, since you only paid 10 percent of what mine cost me, I'd assume it's lower quality.
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My phone doesn't seem much less sensitive - but maybe a bit.

Having a tempered glass screen protector definitely has a hit on touch screen sensitivity. It is noticeable but doesn't make the device unusable. It is just not as sensitive to touch as something like my iPad.

lowjinyik said:
Having a tempered glass screen protector definitely has a hit on touch screen sensitivity. It is noticeable but doesn't make the device unusable. It is just not as sensitive to touch as something like my iPad.
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You have one on your LG G2, as well? Or on another phone you may be owning...?

vPro97 said:
I purchased the panzer glass tempered glass screen protector for what's equivalent to about 33 dollars. It has been on my phone since early January. Honestly I only used my phone for 6 days with the original screen protector (yes, with all the text and stuff - I still found the screen to be gorgeous). I recall losing a bit of sensitivity, but you'll eventually get used to it. Now, since you only paid 10 percent of what mine cost me, I'd assume it's lower quality.
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My phone doesn't seem much less sensitive - but maybe a bit.
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33 bucks... damn that's expensive. I got mine for less than $4, so...
Anyway. January... that's a lot! Has it gotten scratched yet? It really shouldn't, but...

Formhault said:
33 bucks... damn that's expensive. I got mine for less than $4, so...
Anyway. January... that's a lot! Has it gotten scratched yet? It really shouldn't, but...
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Yeah it's really expensive.
Not really. It has some really hair-thin scratches but you need to turn the screen off and put it under direct light to even see them.
The only annoyance is that it had a small bubble when I applied it (my fault) and that bubble is now 5 cm tall. Fortunately it's along the far left side so it doesn't bother me
If you don't mind searching for it, I have made a review of it in the G2 accessories.

I purchased a NILKIN glass protector which I put on my phone yesterday. So far I do not feel any difference in touch sensitivity and everything works well. Even the sides are not raised from the screen that much. I'm very happy with this and recommend it to anyone who wants a glass protector. It was under 10 dollars on ebay

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Not really. It has some really hair-thin scratches but you need to turn the screen off and put it under direct light to even see them.
The only annoyance is that it had a small bubble when I applied it (my fault) and that bubble is now 5 cm tall. Fortunately it's along the far left side so it doesn't bother me
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Mine already had a few scratches on it. At least I think they were there... because when I applied it, the glass only had one protective film (on the back, where the adhesive is). I guess the manufacturer thought the glass is strong enough to not become scratched during shipping & handling and such. Anyway, the scratches are extremely thin and only become visible when the screen is off and at an angle, under direct, strong light.
I don't have any bubbles. It's weird, because when I applied it (well, my girlfriend actually did - turns out she's good at this, especially if in a steamy room like a bathroom, so there are no dust particles, you know), the glass seated itself only about 5 seconds after me and my girlfriend thought it was installed. I mean we could see the glass sticking to the phone, gradually, you know...
There are some... things... Not exactly bubbles. When I take my phone out of the pocket, I see a lot of horizontal (not 100% horizontal, they are a bit tilted) lines, which go away if I clean the glass with a T-Shirt for example.
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If you don't mind searching for it, I have made a review of it in the G2 accessories.
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Didn't know. Will do.

sjk971005 said:
I purchased a NILKIN glass protector which I put on my phone yesterday. So far I do not feel any difference in touch sensitivity and everything works well. Even the sides are not raised from the screen that much. I'm very happy with this and recommend it to anyone who wants a glass protector. It was under 10 dollars on ebay
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I was curious and made a search for it. Found no such thing for the LG G2, but many for other devices. Such as this one. And this one. Since all they advertise is the amazingness of the screen protector, and NOT the thickness of it... I'll assume it's just like the rest : 9H, 0.33mm. So... just like mine... which was less than $4.

I have mine installed from ebay.....i havent noticed a sensitivity loss .....maybe on knock code ..maybe but on other things such as games or even photoshop touch it works flawlessly and with no sensitive loss. Cost me @ 8 dollars as well plus has an extra coverage area that matches the face of my phone
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south956 said:
I have mine installed from ebay.....i havent noticed a sensitivity loss .....maybe on knock code ..maybe but on other things such as games or even photoshop touch it works flawlessly and with no sensitive loss. Cost me @ 8 dollars as well plus has an extra coverage area that matches the face of my phone
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Nice. 8 bucks, that's not too much. But shipping anything from the US to Romania is either impossible (for this seller it sure is) either very costly to the point it's not worth it anymore.
I noticed some touchscreen sensitivity degradation yesterday... was walking a long way and was browsing an e-mail via Chrome... scrolling just stopped responding. Had to turn the screen off & on again to regain functionality. Stuff like this happens at least 3 times a day. It's no biggie, but I'm gonna start searching for a better glass screen protector (from China, so I get free shipping).

Are you using a case on your Xperia Z3?

Case or no case?

Never been for the case. I would always opt for a 9H tempered glass. I've bought both the front and back Nilkin 9H tempered glass and it's been working pretty well for these two months. I recently dropped my z3 on the floor. No damage but the tempered glass did crack. If you don't mind taking away from the beauty of the phone, I would definitely recommend a case. I bought the Ringke clear case at first but it just made the phone look bulkier.

I have a Ringke, but like to use my phone bare, also have front/back glass protectors.
However in corner impacts the glass protectors will be useless as one person already found out, though he did it on purpose to show off .

I have a tempered glass 9H screen protector on the front and when I don't use the phone it lives in a slip case with a pull tab. When I do use it it takes all of a second or two to get it out and it's naked in my hands. I can't stand an ugly case that wraps around a phone. Why would anybody obscure the beautiful design of an item with a case? It makes no sense... Although like I say my compromise is a slip case.
My phone is in absolute mint condition with not a single fine scratch on the back yet so I reckon my system works pretty well for me.
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No case here either. I just use a lanyard ring. It helps with holding/using the phone with 1 hand. Will probably get some cheap screen protector though because the phone is so slippery.
The phone design is too sexy, why cover it up?

Just a belt case when at work

I don't use a case, but I didn't vote because I don't think it's tough enough. I just don't like cases, they add bulk and ruin the design.
I do use a lanyard/strap though because the entire phone is slippery. I put a Xtremeguard back protector to make it less slippery, but the sides are still slippery as hell. I'm really considering using Plasti Dip on the sides.

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Jokes aside, I agree with Shilent. No case or front screen protectors for me--it ruins the design and full experience of the phone. The only thing I would add is a protective sticker on the back so it doesn't slide on the table.

I voted no case, but don't think it would survive a drop....
Lol, Hanime.
Case really does ruin the phone, I only use the Ringke outside, that too occasionaly. After seeing Gorilla Glass 4 adverts by Corning showing 2x increase in impact resistance, espescially rough surfaces. I wish it had released in time for this phone.

Mine is naked now. My cruzerlite case lasted 3 days.
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hanime said:
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Jokes aside, I agree with Shilent. No case or front screen protectors for me--it ruins the design and full experience of the phone. The only thing I would add is a protective sticker on the back so it doesn't slide on the table.
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You should consider a tempered glass screen protector if you hate stickers. It's incomparable to the old idea of a plastic film protector.
It's 100% invisible and makes the screen look unbelievably beautiful while offering great protection if u should drop it.
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Johann_London said:
You should consider a tempered glass screen protector if you hate stickers. It's incomparable to the old idea of a plastic film protector.
It's 100% invisible and makes the screen look unbelievably beautiful while offering great protection if u should drop it.
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How does something invisible make something look beautiful?
It won't add much protection to dropping your phone either, especially if it lands on the side of the device.

Carrying it naked absolutely out of the question for me.
I sell my phones every 2 months. Resale value is paramount, so I wont risk a small scratch or dent.
Yes the phone's design is sexy. However IMHO, using casemate tough case somehow adds to its beauty while adding more grip to it.

i'm using case right now, but a super thin 0.33mm clear TPU one . just for that extra safety feel

No case, because I know what the phone looks like, and I couldn't care less what anyone else thinks it looks like, and I want some protection against both drops and scratching from being in a pocket/general wear and tear over the 2 or 3 years I'm going to have it.

No case here! Just using a glass protector on the front and naked on the back because I couldn't find any.
I just hate the fact that my glass protector has cut outs for the sensors, doesn't fully cover around the speakers and has a cut out for the NOTIFICATION LIGHT. Seriously, wtf

Ok, now I just have a glass screen protector on the back and nothing on the front. I've been getting some scratches on back, so I need something on it.
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xxquicksh0txx said:
How does something invisible make something look beautiful?
It won't add much protection to dropping your phone either, especially if it lands on the side of the device.
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God what a stupid reply. Firstly, because it's just another layer of glass it's pretty much invisible - but because it's glossy and of a high quality it compliments the resolution of the screen and makes it look really good.
Just look up some videos on YouTube where they are reviewed or something.
Also it protects the screen against drops - in almost every drop the screen protector shatters leaving the screen in mint condition. There are even a few videos where they are hit with a hammer and it's the screen protector that shatters, not the screen.
Erica Griffin did the same test. But for now, look at this:
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Johann_London said:
God what a stupid reply. Firstly, because it's just another layer of glass it's pretty much invisible - but because it's glossy and of a high quality it compliments the resolution of the screen and makes it look really good.
Just look up some videos on YouTube where they are reviewed or something.
Also it protects the screen against drops - in almost every drop the screen protector shatters leaving the screen in mint condition. There are even a few videos where they are hit with a hammer and it's the screen protector that shatters, not the screen.
Erica Griffin did the same test. But for now, look at this:
Tempered glass screen protector drop test #2 (off…: http://youtu.be/Ld8ISx4IL8Q
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I'm sorry, I was unware the glass on the front of our screen wasn't glossy and of high quality to begin with. Silly me.
I'm going to go buy a glass screen protector now so I can have beautiful display now.
Never did I say the glass screen protectors were nice, I use them myself.
If you read my post carefully I specifically said it's not going to protect it from a side impact, which it's not.
I swear, people get more retarded everyday.

dedei said:
No case here! Just using a glass protector on the front and naked on the back because I couldn't find any.
I just hate the fact that my glass protector has cut outs for the sensors, doesn't fully cover around the speakers and has a cut out for the NOTIFICATION LIGHT. Seriously, wtf
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I have an Ultimate Shield glass protector and it has only three cut outs... The two speakers (onbiously) and the sensor just to the left of the Sony logo. Everything else including camera and notification light works through the protector. This one is 9H hardness. Which one do you have then?
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Screen scratches easily!

few days and there is a noticeable scratch. I am very careful with the screen but have no screen protectors. What kind of glass Samsung used. I’m not even sure this screen is real glass, maybe it sort of plastic.

funfun99999 said:
few days and there is a noticeable scratch. I am very careful with the screen but have no screen protectors. What kind of glass Samsung used. I’m not even sure this screen is real glass, maybe it sort of plastic.
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Lol really. You no nothing then.
It's glass and very strong glass at that.
I had mines without a protector for 2wks and didn't get a single scratch on mine.
So some how you got something on it and it got scratch. The in thing that scratches screen the worse is sand

Have had mine for over a month. No screen protector, no scratches. In and out of my pockets all day.
I did laugh when I read some sort of plastic lol.
Btw this is the glass on the note edge.
http://youtu.be/r_40sBbpBVg .

xile6 said:
Lol really. You no nothing then.
It's glass and very strong glass at that.
I had mines without a protector for 2wks and didn't get a single scratch on mine.
So some how you got something on it and it got scratch. The in thing that scratches screen the worse is sand
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Just look at it in the sunlight at an angle and see if it has some scratch.
And there is no info in samsung what type glass it used
The same thing happens with note 4

Note 4 use Gorilla Glass 4
Note Edge use Gorilla Glass 3

leomaxi said:
Note 4 use Gorilla Glass 4
Note Edge use Gorilla Glass 3
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Where you found about Note Edge. No info at Corning's own website or Samsung
Only reviews saying that it has Gorilla Glass 3 but does not mean it has.

It's gorilla glass 3.
My girl has drop her phone from waist high and landed face frist on the kitchen floor and didn't have one sratch on it.
So either your got a cheap copy or you where way to ruff with the phone.
As said o went 2 weeks without a protector and don't have any sratch at all. Not a one. Then I put a protector on it.

funfun99999 said:
Where you found about Note Edge. No info at Corning's own website or Samsung
Only reviews saying that it has Gorilla Glass 3 but does not mean it has.
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Come on man, do a Google Search. All the review sites are very reputable tech sites. But to appease you here is a snapshot of a chat I just had with Samsung notice the website name.
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Now stop your complaining and own up that you made a mistake and happen to scratch your screen. Crap happens. Btw I've turned my phone every which way in the sun no scratches.

Speedin07si said:
Come on man, do a Google Search. All the review sites are very reputable tech sites. But to appease you here is a snapshot of a chat I just had with Samsung notice the website name.
Now stop your complaining and own up that you made a mistake and happen to scratch your screen. Crap happens. Btw I've turned my phone every which way in the sun no scratches.
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I often use gsmarena to check out specs on phone. Not perfect but generally a good resource.
As you reported: Corning Gorilla Glass 3
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_edge-6631.php
EDIT: Also, according to gsmarena, Note 4 uses Corning Gorilla Glass 4.

mscion said:
I often use gsmarena to check out specs on phone. Not perfect but generally a good resource.
As you reported: Corning Gorilla Glass 3
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_edge-6631.php
EDIT: Also, according to gsmarena, Note 4 uses Corning Gorilla Glass 4.
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Ok let us say it Gorilla Glass. This means Gorilla Glass is not that resistance to scratch. Since the first day I have my phone in a case.

I also have have about 3 minor scratches on my Note Edge and I haven't had mine a month yet.. it is EXTREMELY annoying and I am trying to find a way to rid my screen of these scratches, I am OCD about my phones and not sure how it happened. Even been thinking about calling Samsung to see if there is anything that can be done.. so don't feel bad @funfun99999 you're not alone.

funfun99999 said:
Ok let us say it Gorilla Glass. This means Gorilla Glass is not that resistance to scratch. Since the first day I have my phone in a case.
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I just Googled "hardness of gorilla glass" and quickly found this.
http://en.miui.com/thread-40353-1-1.html
Basically, if a material is harder than the Gorilla Glass is can scratch it.
For example, something with a hardness of sand will scratch Gorilla glass so be careful at your local sand box or beach!
Perhaps, your screen was accidentally exposed to a harder material and you just didn't notice it at the time. Who knows, it
happens to the best of us.
EDIT:You know, it is always possible that some substandard Gorilla Glass was used. The problem here is who wants to volunteer using their Edge screen to test this! Also, unlikely Samsung or Corning would admit any wrong doing...

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Ok let us say it Gorilla Glass. This means Gorilla Glass is not that resistance to scratch. Since the first day I have my phone in a case.
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When I read the first post I was like wow this guy is ignorant, read this post and now I'm fairly convinced you don't have the slightest idea as to how Gorilla Glass works.
Fortified glass such as Gorilla Glass is not resistant to scratches, heck even diamond isn't shatter proof nor scratch proof (given the right material).
They are obviously harder to scratch than your standard glass but something will eventually scratch it if it's hard enough.
Do you want to know what the easiest thing to scratch your phone screen on is? Sand, it's abundant, you probably have a whole pile of it in your pockets.
Sand has hardness that is greater than glass and even Gorilla Glass which means when your screen comes in contact with sand it has the ability to scratch your screen.
Please don't go off blaming the product when you don't even know sufficient information about how the technology behind it all works.
"Since the first day I have my phone in a case" (lolwut?) Putting your phone in a case doesn't guarantee that you won't get scratches.
If you're that worried invest in a screen protector. I've had this phone for 2 months with no case or screen protector and still not a single scratch on the screen.
Maybe you should start washing your pants more often with the pockets inside out as well.
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iCUE220 said:
I also have have about 3 minor scratches on my Note Edge and I haven't had mine a month yet.. it is EXTREMELY annoying and I am trying to find a way to rid my screen of these scratches, I am OCD about my phones and not sure how it happened. Even been thinking about calling Samsung to see if there is anything that can be done.. so don't feel bad @funfun99999 you're not alone.
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There's no real method of getting scratches off Gorilla Glass haha
Just get over it, it happens, nothing in this world can be perfect and resistant to everything.
Move on with your life, that scratch on your phone is not worth your time.
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Speedin07si said:
Come on man, do a Google Search. All the review sites are very reputable tech sites. But to appease you here is a snapshot of a chat I just had with Samsung notice the website name.
Now stop your complaining and own up that you made a mistake and happen to scratch your screen. Crap happens. Btw I've turned my phone every which way in the sun no scratches.
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Gotta love it when people can't own up to their own mistakes or do adequate research eh?

I can safely say these two things do not scratch the screen with a light swipe. I'm sure if I put a great deal of force I could.

I subjected my note edge screen to the following and I didn't find a single scratch...

tospace2006 said:
When I read the first post I was like wow this guy is ignorant, read this post and now I'm fairly convinced you don't have the slightest idea as to how Gorilla Glass works.
Fortified glass such as Gorilla Glass is not resistant to scratches, heck even diamond isn't shatter proof nor scratch proof (given the right material).
They are obviously harder to scratch than your standard glass but something will eventually scratch it if it's hard enough.
Do you want to know what the easiest thing to scratch your phone screen on is? Sand, it's abundant, you probably have a whole pile of it in your pockets.
Sand has hardness that is greater than glass and even Gorilla Glass which means when your screen comes in contact with sand it has the ability to scratch your screen.
Please don't go off blaming the product when you don't even know sufficient information about how the technology behind it all works.
"Since the first day I have my phone in a case" (lolwut?) Putting your phone in a case doesn't guarantee that you won't get scratches.
If you're that worried invest in a screen protector. I've had this phone for 2 months with no case or screen protector and still not a single scratch on the screen.
Maybe you should start washing your pants more often with the pockets inside out as well.
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There's no real method of getting scratches off Gorilla Glass haha
Just get over it, it happens, nothing in this world can be perfect and resistant to everything.
Move on with your life, that scratch on your phone is not worth your time.
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Gotta love it when people can't own up to their own mistakes or do adequate research eh?
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yep knowledge is power, he must of been an iphone user lol...
Speedin07si said:
I can safely say these two things do not scratch the screen with a light swipe. I'm sure if I put a great deal of force I could.
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yep believe it or not those are softer metal then the glass. The same thing with keys there softer.
They did a test before. use knives, keys, metal rings etc... and they didnt do anything.
But a small part of 1000 grit sand paper wipe out the screen. Sand is pretty hard and hell thats whats glass is made off.

tospace2006 said:
When I read the first post I was like wow this guy is ignorant, read this post and now I'm fairly convinced you don't have the slightest idea as to how Gorilla Glass works.
Fortified glass such as Gorilla Glass is not resistant to scratches, heck even diamond isn't shatter proof nor scratch proof (given the right material).
They are obviously harder to scratch than your standard glass but something will eventually scratch it if it's hard enough.
Do you want to know what the easiest thing to scratch your phone screen on is? Sand, it's abundant, you probably have a whole pile of it in your pockets.
Sand has hardness that is greater than glass and even Gorilla Glass which means when your screen comes in contact with sand it has the ability to scratch your screen.
Please don't go off blaming the product when you don't even know sufficient information about how the technology behind it all works.
"Since the first day I have my phone in a case" (lolwut?) Putting your phone in a case doesn't guarantee that you won't get scratches.
If you're that worried invest in a screen protector. I've had this phone for 2 months with no case or screen protector and still not a single scratch on the screen.
Maybe you should start washing your pants more often with the pockets inside out as well.
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I see you just Defending Corning and Samsung. I believe you have scratches at your phone just look in sunlight at angle and you will see minor scratches at the screen.

I have my Note Edge 5 weeks scratch free
I purchased mine on Jan 9th first day of Verizon release. I have an Incipio case on it. I have dropped my phone more than once and on the face, it remains scratch free. The case has several scars and marks and a crack. I'm happy with the durability of my phone. Sorry to hear of the unhappy results with yours.

funfun99999 said:
I see you just Defending Corning and Samsung. I believe you have scratches at your phone just look in sunlight at angle and you will see minor scratches at the screen.
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And so the ignorance continues... I am in no way defending Corning. How did Samsung even come into play? I never even mentioned Samsung once.
We were talking specifically about the technology that makes our modern day phones relatively scratch resistant when used correctly.
I mentioned that Corning's gorilla glass and other fortified glass is not completely scratch resistant. This is not my opinion. This is not me defending Corning. This is a fact....
I know for a fact that my phone will eventually collect scratches since I'm a user who doesn't use a screen protector,
but please don't state that you know my device better than I do when you can't even grasp the simple concept that nothing can be completely scratch proof.
When those scratches do finally appear I won't go on the internet and complain that these companies are making false claims and making inferior products to what they advertise.
Without their technology, the simple act of putting your phone in and pulling it out of a pocket could probably put many scratches on your device.
Have the dignity to just admit maybe you ran into some element in your pocket, on a desk or even on your finger that could have put the scratch there.
Cause at the end of the day a scratch doesn't just magically appear out of nowhere on any material, you clearly came in contact with some sort of element that you are not aware of.
Do your damn research, get learnt, knowledge is power and maybe next time you won't make such a big fool out of yourself on the internet.
I'm trying to be as informative as possible so you can understand where these scratches come from, no need to get so defensive man.

xile6 said:
yep knowledge is power, he must of been an iphone user lol...
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+1 to this

Screen scratches within only 2 weeks

I have owned the phone for 2 weeks and have some really horrible scratches on the screen already. I really don't feel the screen should scratch this easily as I have never experienced this with a phone before.
The phone has been in a case since day 1 that elevates it if placed face down. Additionally I have not dropped the phone at all. The phone always goes straight to my pocket by itself facing my leg. I checked for dirt in my pockets and there is none that I can ever feel. I really don't understand how this is happening. The scratches are extremely noticeable in direct light and do not resemble microscratches, but thick scratches. I feel as if this glass is defective or something with how quickly and seemingly easily it has scratched.
Is there anything I can do to exchange the phone, buff the scratches, or get rid of them?

Here are some photos of the scratches, granted the camera doesnt really capture it as well.
https://imgur.com/gallery/OtuAt

Yes it is not normal at all, did you put the phone in the sand or something like that, because i don't know if Samsung cover this damage. If it was on the phone at the opening of the box, the warranty can be used i think.

Tristan1302 said:
Yes it is not normal at all, did you put the phone in the sand or something like that, because i don't know if Samsung cover this damage. If it was on the phone at the opening of the box, the warranty can be used i think.
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It was not on the phone when opening the box and no it has not shown any signs of sand on it. Just scratches appearing.

The scratches cannot appears like that, something has scratched your phone, I have it for 1 month and there is ont a single scratch on the screen, it's really strange...

2 weeks, as new.
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I always got the latest flagship phone from Samsung, Apple, and Google. I am not using any screen protector, just a very thin back cases at 0.35mm. Micro scratches are present in all devices all around the screen but barely noticeable even in bright lighting like on mornings outdoor. Only visible at certain lighting and when you really looked for those scratches. If you do not want those micro scratches or glass scratches, then use a screen protector. Phone screens are mostly glass and not pure sapphires to not be scratched (except using diamonds). There is no way for phones with glass screens to be at 100% smoothness for a long time without using a screen protector unless you are not using it. Also, you won't use your phone forever anyway. You'll eventually upgrade after let's say 2 years maybe so why not just use it as it is.

MarkerBeanXDA said:
I always got the latest flagship phone from Samsung, Apple, and Google. I am not using any screen protector, just a very thin back cases at 0.35mm. Micro scratches are present in all devices all around the screen but barely noticeable even in bright lighting like on mornings outdoor. Only visible at certain lighting and when you really looked for those scratches. If you do not want those micro scratches or glass scratches, then use a screen protector. Phone screens are mostly glass and not pure sapphires to not be scratched (except using diamonds). There is no way for phones with glass screens to be at 100% smoothness for a long time without using a screen protector unless you are not using it. Also, you won't use your phone forever anyway. You'll eventually upgrade after let's say 2 years maybe so why not just use it as it is.
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I think the original posters comment was meant to supplement several other posters on this forum to suggest that for some reason the glass on this particular flagship phone seems to be more susceptible to scratches than previous models
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theprfct10 said:
I think the original posters comment was meant to supplement several other posters on this forum to suggest that for some reason the glass on this particular flagship phone seems to be more susceptible to scratches than previous models
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Well i don't think so. I have used almost all flagships from apple, samsung, and nexus phones as my daily driver and It all got micro scratches after 2-3days of using it without a screen protector. I am careful with using my phone and not putting it on my bag without a towel or soft cloth covering the phone and when putting it on my pocket sometimes, i am making sure it's clean and nothing on it, just the phone.

MarkerBeanXDA said:
Well i don't think so. I have used almost all flagships from apple, samsung, and nexus phones as my daily driver and It all got micro scratches after 2-3days of using it without a screen protector. I am careful with using my phone and not putting it on my bag without a towel or soft cloth covering the phone and when putting it on my pocket sometimes, i am making sure it's clean and nothing on it, just the phone.
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We can agree to disagree. I also don't think you should judge anybody on this forum just by nature of their post - I'm sure he and I are just as careful as you are but that doesn't mean we are in any way negligent for the scratches that seem to have appeared on our phones versus you
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theprfct10 said:
We can agree to disagree. I also don't think you should judge anybody on this forum just by nature of their post - I'm sure he and I are just as careful as you are but that doesn't mean we are in any way negligent for the scratches that seem to have appeared on our phones versus you
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What i was saying is that, it's not that we are not careful or it's not that the phone is bad. It's just the way it is. Use a screen protector and your phone screen will be smooth. Don't use a screen protector and your phone screen will eventually have scratches. Not because you are not careful but that's just how it is. It's not made to be scratch proof, just scratch resistant.

MarkerBeanXDA said:
What i was saying is that, it's not that we are not careful or it's not that the phone is bad. It's just the way it is. Use a screen protector and your phone screen will be smooth. Don't use a screen protector and your phone screen will eventually have scratches. Not because you are not careful but that's just how it is. It's not made to be scratch proof, just scratch resistant.
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That I completely agree with you although I must tell you several screen protectors especially for the curved glass are nowhere near as smooth as the original glass on the phone itself and you can include the film protectors for sure - thank you for keeping it civil.
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theprfct10 said:
That I completely agree with you although I must tell you several screen protectors especially for the curved glass are nowhere near as smooth as the original glass on the phone itself and you can include the film protectors for sure - thank you for keeping it civil.
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There is actually, the official screen protector from samsung. Not a tempered glass, but a curved film that will fit up to the edges of the phone. It does not involve wet aplplication btw, just apply as normal screen protector. Also, i have seen one film screen protector that sticks up to the back of the phone (not the whole back) and it's definitely not gonna peel off as the screen protector does not end on the edges, but on the back which is quite clever i think so that the protector will really be protected up to its edges and it will not peel off at the same time. It's a very thin film so cases will still fit.

MarkerBeanXDA said:
There is actually, the official screen protector from samsung. Not a tempered glass, but a curved film that will fit up to the edges of the phone. It does not involve wet aplplication btw, just apply as normal screen protector. Also, i have seen one film screen protector that sticks up to the back of the phone (not the whole back) and it's definitely not gonna peel off as the screen protector does not end on the edges, but on the back which is quite clever i think so that the protector will really be protected up to its edges and it will not peel off at the same time. It's a very thin film so cases will still fit.
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Cool, do you remember the brand of that one?
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theprfct10 said:
Cool, do you remember the brand of that one?
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The one i saw was from ScreenSecure i think but many stalls are doing it in malls for about $4.

MarkerBeanXDA said:
The one i saw was from ScreenSecure i think but many stalls are doing it in malls for about $4.
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Thanks!
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MarkerBeanXDA said:
Well i don't think so. I have used almost all flagships from apple, samsung, and nexus phones as my daily driver and It all got micro scratches after 2-3days of using it without a screen protector. I am careful with using my phone and not putting it on my bag without a towel or soft cloth covering the phone and when putting it on my pocket sometimes, i am making sure it's clean and nothing on it, just the phone.
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I´ve never had a scratch with iphones before, for years, obviously not counting when my iphone 5s fell to the floor

It scratches at level 6 on the hardness scale which is pretty typical of high-end smartphones. Saying "my previous phones never scratched" is like saying "I never had an accident in my previous cars" after having an accident in your current one and then blaming the manufacturer. .
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BarryH_GEG said:
It scratches at level 6 on the hardness scale which is pretty typical of high-end smartphones. Saying "my previous phones never scratched" is like saying "I never had an accident in my previous cars" after having an accident in your current one and then blaming the manufacturer. .
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Dude he's just making a comparison that's all.
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