Hi there.
After all that happened with the ICS update (this thread is not for talking about it), I have some questions about the Xperia Play that I think are very important and Sony should clarify with some kind of official message.
- Will be there more updates for the Xperia Play? I mean, they could fix some bugs (like the MTP USB and Windows 7...) and add some more features on Gingerbread...
- What happens with the Playstation Suite? It was supposed to come with the ICS update, so? Will we still get it if the Xplay stays on Gingerbread?
- This is not for Sony, but I think it's important too: What happens with some emulators that were going to support the "analog sticks" on ICS?
I know that some people here has talked with Sony via their support chat, did they say anything about these things? What do you think about all this?
Please don't flood the thread with useless comments like "Sony sucks", "OMG the Xperia Play is already dead", etc. Thanks.
1. I believe someone's chat with sony came to the conclusion that gingerbread may still get updates (possible bringing new features in the stead of ICS)
2. PS Suite will likely still be released, but I've not heard much about it
3. They still do support ICS. I doubt they'll do anything about it for gingerbread though, seeing as it was only included in ICS because of the easier implementation
About as likely as windows xp being updated with aero
Again, i Don't have have any issue with MTP mode on W7....MSC also no problem, even in Xubuntu
In fact, my phone is not recognized with MTP mode IN WINDOWS XP...
In a Chat with Sony they said that updates will continue (highly doubt it)
The big question in my mind is:
Will the devs still release games for Xperia Play?
I mean games that a single-core processor can run fluently and games that have XP's pad support?
I don't care if we don't get ICS AS LONG AS we still get some new game here and there. Also more PS Suite games would be welcome. I am sure someone more in-the-know will provide useful information on this...
bangawasawa said:
The big question in my mind is:
Will the devs still release games for Xperia Play?
I mean games that a single-core processor can run fluently and games that have XP's pad support?
I don't care if we don't get ICS AS LONG AS we still get some new game here and there. Also more PS Suite games would be welcome. I am sure someone more in-the-know will provide useful information on this...
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Ofcourse the Xperia Play will still be supported by all developers.
Look N.O.V.A 3 was released that was optimized and now we got Dead Trigger which will be optimized as it's made by madfingergames.
So the Xperia Play has still got a long way to go !
It will NOT die !
^ If ever we need to give the case for optimisation, we should cite the guy from SE who said that Xperia Play owners were more likely to pay for games.
Xperia Play owners are proper gamers and remember the devs that are good to us!
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^ If ever we need to give the case for optimisation, we should cite the guy from SE who said that Xperia Play owners were more likely to pay for games.
Xperia Play owners are proper gamers and remember the devs that are good to us!
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Gameloft figured that out real quickly, by WAP shopping up will recently the Xperia Play versions of all their games, so when the Play store had a sale we still paid full price. It wasn't till MC3 came out that you could get Play store versions that worked.
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Gameloft figured that out real quickly, by WAP shopping up will recently the Xperia Play versions of all their games, so when the Play store had a sale we still paid full price. It wasn't till MC3 came out that you could get Play store versions that worked.
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Well I don't mind the WAP shop actually. Been using it for years, even on my old devices ;P
Last week I got MC3 and AS6 for €2 total.
What's the Wap shop?
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Who cares? It's a cell phone for christ sake. A CELL PHONE.
My opinion is within a year this section will almost be dead, most of the great developers will have gone, then 6 months later this section is put into the Legacy section, Quad cores are now out, single cores are gone, no one buys Single cores anymore, I intend to buy a Asus Transformer prime rather than a new phone, I want a tablet.
and what about some games that somy promised to us , some psp game.
also sony's marketing-snior manager has told about : just wit and see what we wanna do on xperia play ( 4 or 5 mounth before )
You already have PS SUITE!! It is just a program to allow developers to publish games to the ps store for pspocket
I say lets all take to soney for ics ti be launched to xperia play even if Xperia play looses the ps certification or what ever or they cqn just update the beta to a full working rom with camera and WiFi fix lets all submit a post on soney forum or talk duractly to them
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I predict that the Xperia Play's future will go a lot like it's present...
• Xperia Play will continue to rack up on negative press, which of course will be taken as fact by the group of total idiots I like to call the "We don't own it or know anything about it... but we'll judge it anyway!" group.
• People will hate and people will call it a failure because there seriously are people dumb enough to judge a devices validity by sales (and if you ask them, not a single one will know how many games Xperia Play has, or how well it runs with it's 'supposedly obsolete' specs).
• At the end of the day, everyone who actually owns and Xperia Play (and has something of a functional brain) will continue seeing that it gets new, impressive, high-rating games as it always has
• Other controller solutions will continue being touted as "Xperia Play killers"... and never ever reach even a third of the compatible games Xperia Play has under it's belt.
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I predict that the Xperia Play's future will go a lot like it's present...
• Xperia Play will continue to rack up on negative press, which of course will be taken as fact by the group of total idiots I like to call the "We don't own it or know anything about it... but we'll judge it anyway!" group.
• People will hate and people will call it a failure because there seriously are people dumb enough to judge a devices validity by sales (and if you ask them, not a single one will know how many games Xperia Play has, or how well it runs with it's 'supposedly obsolete' specs).
• At the end of the day, everyone who actually owns and Xperia Play (and has something of a functional brain) will continue seeing that it gets new, impressive, high-rating games as it always has
• Other controller solutions will continue being touted as "Xperia Play killers"... and never ever reach even a third of the compatible games Xperia Play has under it's belt.
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Snap!
savage24x said:
Who cares? It's a cell phone for christ sake. A CELL PHONE.
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I just asked what will happen with some things that haven't arrived yet to our mobile, I didn't say something like others say as "OH GOD WHAT I'M GONNA DO MY PHONE WON'T HAVE ICS I'M GONNA KILL MYSELF AFTER DESTROYING ALL SONY DEVICES ON MY HOUSE".
xD
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Who cares? It's a cell phone for christ sake. A CELL PHONE.
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Sorry, but no.
It's a cellphone/handheld console hybrid at least. For me it's definitely not just a cellphone and I'd dare say most people who bought it - primarily for playing games - would agree.
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Hi this thread will may give sony the push they need to start and develop another generation of Play2.
anyone who would support and would buy Xperia Play2 that will have a minimum of a quad CPU and some future wonderful GPU if it will be out, please replay to this thread.
only if your answer is yes reply else we don't need you
The Xperia Play was a flop in business yo Sony, they didn't make much from it, they were expecting millions and millions to be sold. Usually companies don't waste time on a successor if the original was not popular.
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KeiranFTW said:
The Xperia Play was a flop in business yo Sony, they didn't make much from it, they were expecting millions and millions to be sold. Usually companies don't waste time on a successor if the original was not popular.
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I'm with you on this one
I'm gonna start a petition to Nokia to get an N-Gage 2 /sarcasm
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Hi this thread will may give sony the push they need to start and develop another generation of Play2.
anyone who would support and would buy Xperia Play2 that will have a minimum of a quad CPU and some future wonderful GPU if it will be out, please replay to this thread.
only if your answer is yes reply else we don't need you
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i'm with you man
VIVA xpeRia pLAY 2
quad core , tegra 3 ... i'll buy that , and don't care how much that will be
It's because people are greedy that XPlay hadn't the success Sony hoped for. People wanted XPlay to have from the beginning 500 optimised games, ability to play PSP games, Android 5, quad-core etc. But I'm happy that only smart people are owners of XPlay, the others still playing games with their thumbs covering 30% of the screen.
That's how customers are nowadays, they want everything to have the Apple logo, to be perfect, to be popular.
Also, about XPlay 2, Sony will surely do it in the future. It will be something big, a great gaming phone. Unfortunately, right now they have to sell PS Vita's before that.
Does anyone actually have sales data for the xperia play? I know it didnt exactly blow the walls of all known sales records, but I don't think it was a loss making flop like some make it out too be, but if anyone can say im wrong please present the evidence.
The play had a couple of drawbacks on release which really hampered its sales, im hoping sony is going to sort these out and try again, they may not, in that case i will be waiting for a high end slider.
According to this, in september 2011 sony said xperia play sales were meeting expectations. Hardly the flop its rumored to be, but also not a huge success. Truth is, it sold an expected quantity, so there's no reason to think that it won't get a successor. No strong reason to believe it will either.
Yes I think we need an Xperia Play 2. The Xperia play was very good but a little late with the tech inside and this led to a lot of hate from many reviewers. I would say if people at least gave it a try they would change their minds, I mean it is every bit as good as the Nexus S with the bonus of physical gaming controls.
xperia play 2...at least 4.0 AOS for x play.
labbala said:
Hi this thread will may give sony the push they need to start and develop another generation of Play2.
anyone who would support and would buy Xperia Play2 that will have a minimum of a quad CPU and some future wonderful GPU if it will be out, please replay to this thread.
only if your answer is yes reply else we don't need you
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I support this thread completely. If this phone came out tomorrow I would pre-order it. However, the biggest issue I haver with the first is its incompatibility with other sony devices, ps3 primarily. I understand this is an OS issue and would like to see a vita OS if possible. I know that is a legal issue. Although if it were done properly in the first place this phone would have been a significant flagship phone. Either should have "gone big or gone home". I would give them another chance. Possibly another one if they actually tried, moreover, if they don't try I'm gunna give them fewer chances. One last thing, samsung could have made a device more compatible with sony products.
Its funny, if a phone doesn't get close to iPhone sales figures then its considered a flop. Since there is a zillion different android phones you can consider all of them a flop as androids market share is split between countless manufacturers. The curse of the open os.
If you think about it, xplay is no more a flop than android is.
There are far to many android models. You need a company to make a gaming phone and only a that. Sony has at least 10 different models competing with its on xplay.
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Its funny, if a phone doesn't get close to iPhone sales figures then its considered a flop. Since there is a zillion different android phones you can consider all of them a flop as androids market share is split between countless manufacturers. The curse of the open os.
If you think about it, xplay is no more a flop than android is.
There are far to many android models. You need a company to make a gaming phone and only a that. Sony has at least 10 different models competing with its on xplay.
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Seems we have an ifanboy.. haha.. I like options. Unlike the iphone which is..one phone..and no, not all android phones are "flops", but hey you should look at some sales figures and then see actual sales then come back and reply until then, don't assume.
lol I am anti apple, just telling it the way it is
Geez you either can't read very well or you took my post the wrong way.
Now-a-days it isn't the phone that's selling its the specs. If you see a new android on the market then you would also see heavily advertised specs about the phone. Bottom line and common sense would tell Sony that higher specs in the worlds only gaming phone would sell through the roof. Also maybe if the touch pads weren't such a big deal to configure for development and games then half the complaints and lost sales would not be what it is today. It doesn't take a genius to know what the ppl want so why is it so hard to put more effort and ambition in this device to make it more successful and up to date. Its simple you gonna sell seedless grapes instead of grapes with seeds in them because you know what ppl want and that's without the headache of spitting out seed after every grape. Stupid analogy but think about it it does make sense
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i am a teenager (13) and i love y rooted and bootloader unlocked xperia play (i did it by myself) and all my friends say that it is a great phoone and that they want to have one. i think it should be continued, but made cheaper so more people between 13 and 18 can afford it (my parents are moderately rich and i got it within the first 6 months of release)
I don't see it happening. It treads too much on the toes of the Vita and was probably Ericsson who pushed for it to happen before. So either Sony is going to see that the future of mobile gaming is integration with smartphones or they're going to continue down the dead end road with the likes of the Vita, in which case the Xperia PLAY 2 won't see the light of day.
The Xperia PLAY didn't do as well as it could have because it was released with 1 year old specs and reviewers are generally unforgiving of that. For an Xperia PLAY 2 to be a success, it would need following:
- Dual/Quad core GPU
- 1GB RAM
- 720p resolution display
- Tegra GPU (not as powerful as others but nvidia is and will continue to buy the market with exclusives)
- 8GB internal memory with expandable memory.
- PSP games - the vita can emulate PSP games, so I don't see this as being unrealistic.
- Better gamepad integration for devs with built in touchscreen to button mapper.
I just don't see it happening any time soon, especially while the Vita is still in play.
I think the future of mobile gaming will be integration with smartphones but sony isn't there yet. When they are, if they can develop the vita into an xperia play shell, they will have the market sewn up (they already have the decent game developers on-board).
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I don't see it happening. It treads too much on the toes of the Vita and was probably Ericsson who pushed for it to happen before. So either Sony is going to see that the future of mobile gaming is integration with smartphones or they're going to continue down the dead end road with the likes of the Vita, in which case the Xperia PLAY 2 won't see the light of day.
The Xperia PLAY didn't do as well as it could have because it was released with 1 year old specs and reviewers are generally unforgiving of that. For an Xperia PLAY 2 to be a success, it would need following:
- Dual/Quad core GPU
- 1GB RAM
- 720p resolution display
- Tegra GPU (not as powerful as others but nvidia is and will continue to buy the market with exclusives)
- 8GB internal memory with expandable memory.
- PSP games - the vita can emulate PSP games, so I don't see this as being unrealistic.
- Better gamepad integration for devs with built in touchscreen to button mapper.
I just don't see it happening any time soon, especially while the Vita is still in play.
I think the future of mobile gaming will be integration with smartphones but sony isn't there yet. When they are, if they can develop the vita into an xperia play shell, they will have the market sewn up (they already have the decent game developers on-board).
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i'll buy that , for any price
I would buy it in a heartbeat
At launch the Xperia Play wasn't too bad, the MSM8255 is still a fine performer.
As much as I hope for you guys a newer Xperia Play will arrive, a petition of any sorts will absolutely not help. Creating and releasing a phone requires months, if not one or two years of work. Especially something that would require so much extra development, new partners, extra quality control, content at launch, ... It's very hard to get all the cycles in the development process up to speed since a phone is something completely different from a console.
I'm in for the Xperia Play 2...
So far My perfect phone will be a Xperia Play with the 32GB Galaxy Nexus Screen and Guts... It's not that difficult Sony.
I will jump to the Galaxy Nexus while I wait...for it
It's all obvious. The Play was launched with old specs for a phone at the time, never mind a phone that should have been cutting edge to be a gaming phone. It's been said many times, but a phone that is up-to-date spec-wise with a gamepad would sell unbelievably.
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This Thread will be here for all the discussion regarding Sony, Xperia Play, & ICS myself & Techno-update will be monitering it. Keep it clean!
All other threads related to ICS on the Xperia Play & Sony's Stance on updating will be closed & link to this thread.
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This is sweet, good job!
Does anyone else think that perhaps this is a precursor to a "Xperia Play 2"? Think about it; the physical hardware probably wouldn't change much (same buttons, slider configuration, similar screen size). The main difference would be the hardware "underneath" (quad core, tegra, etc.) and the software. By dropping ICS off for the original Xperia Play, they can turn around and say the new model runs the superior ICS (and will surely get an update to jellybean)
Im not sure if my xda app is bugged out but on my screen the op's post is blank. Cant see what the topic of discussion is or ops thoughts.
LOL does the Kool-Aid taste good?
No, maybe/ hopefully you are right!! I would love an Xperia Play 2 BUT only after my contract is up....I think I have a year or so left.
this was my latest openion , please go on :
i'm sure that XDA's developers can make ICS better that sony , like what they did on our x10 mini-mini pro ...
sony-mobile allways say that they have expert engineers ...
so , xda's developers are more expert than sony's engineers ???!!!
plus , they only need dommlord , jjkkyu , bin4ry ... ?
i'm sure that sony is liar . just wait 4 or five mounths , maybe sony wants to make new play-xperia ! ( something like xperia play 2 ) ! and that is reason to leave our xperia play without hard working on update .
on 2010 , they stopped working on X10 series , just because of 2011 series !
just look at apple updates , they support their specs for 3 years ,!unfortunately , now i can understand , why apple owners , allways laugh at us !
Ics 4.0.4??? N Play didnt get it??? Bummer. Lets hope our talented dev can port that updte for our Play.
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Thumbs up to SONY for its strategy..
first, released ICS BETA version.. i think they already know the feedback : many would report bugs on gaming
second, with bugs gaming report.. this will create an opinion for some users : better not getting the update than couldn't enjoy the gaming experience
third, with that opinion created.. of course some users wouldn't blame them at all
Imagine if SONY do not release ICS BETA n suddenly made a statement no ICS update for Xperia Play in the very last minute, ........ ???
Why dont you start a petition before its to late? Ask for ICS or at least a value pack.
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I think that this shows that not only does Sony not care about their Xperia Play users, but they are LAZY as ever. Let's put out a broken ICS beta to scare everyone away from it, so when we announce that the Xperia Play isn't getting ICS we won't have to take the crap from users. Heck, we weren't going to come out with ICS for the play and we just half-assed a beta to shut the users up. I want Sony to go back on their word and say We messed up and we are going to make ICS for the play, but it isn't going to happen any time soon. I'm just glad I am running aokPlay and it runs smoother then butter coated in animal birthing agent (was featured on Mythbusters when they needed an EXTREMELY slippery surface), sliding on freshly zambonied ice. Yah, It works that well for me. I have NEVER gotten a crash that wasn't my fault because I OC'd too high, or I did something stupid like open too many tabs in my browser by FAR. I hope that Sony sees the light and realizes that all they would have to do would be to release a NON beta ICS version to the devs here and we would all be happy. Then they could at least say "you can't upgrade from us, but you can still do it if you want..."
I think this is just a delay, not cancel.
But anyway, i will start my ics project soon, no longer waiting.
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I think that this shows that not only does Sony not care about their Xperia Play users, but they are LAZY as ever. Let's put out a broken ICS beta to scare everyone away from it, so when we announce that the Xperia Play isn't getting ICS we won't have to take the crap from users. Heck, we weren't going to come out with ICS for the play and we just half-assed a beta to shut the users up. I want Sony to go back on their word and say We messed up and we are going to make ICS for the play, but it isn't going to happen any time soon. I'm just glad I am running aokPlay and it runs smoother then butter coated in animal birthing agent (was featured on Mythbusters when they needed an EXTREMELY slippery surface), sliding on freshly zambonied ice. Yah, It works that well for me. I have NEVER gotten a crash that wasn't my fault because I OC'd too high, or I did something stupid like open too many tabs in my browser by FAR. I hope that Sony sees the light and realizes that all they would have to do would be to release a NON beta ICS version to the devs here and we would all be happy. Then they could at least say "you can't upgrade from us, but you can still do it if you want..."
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i'm agree with you
we should finally teach sony that PROMISE IS PROMISE .
a broken apple is better than sony-mobile's xperia
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I suggest that all the developers working on custom ROMs stop working on their ROMs and get together and work on ONE ROM that would aim to be the best ICS experience possible. Maybe if we all work together we can convince Sony that ICS is still worth it. Just because some games aren't written for ICS it doesn't mean they won't be in the future. So yes, let's pool our resources and make a BETTER ICS rom then whatever Sony might have given us!
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I suggest that all the developers working on custom ROMs stop working on their ROMs and get together and work on ONE ROM that would aim to be the best ICS experience possible. Maybe if we all work together we can convince Sony that ICS is still worth it. Just because some games aren't written for ICS it doesn't mean they won't be in the future. So yes, let's pool our resources and make a BETTER ICS rom then whatever Sony might have given us!
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Now thats an IDEA!!!
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Im not quite bothered that ics is cancelled,i might be sad if they also cancel the upcomming PSSuite and other ported PSP games,hopefully once its released our devs will be able to reverse engineer it like Psxperia
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Im not quite bothered that ics is cancelled,i might be sad if they also cancel the upcomming PSSuite and other ported PSP games,hopefully once its released our devs will be able to reverse engineer it like Psxperia
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yeah , sony also promised new PSsuite and psp games !!!
i want to be patient , but i can't
Let's start from the beginning. The Play, from a pure hardware view, can run ICS. Sony, HTC and other companies are releasing hardware with ICS and lower specs than the Play (Tapioca, Desire C). We've seen that the beta runs mighty fine in the performance department, and it's obvious that the job can be finished if Sony cares to do so.
However, this is a matter of the gaming ecosystem. In short: the only companies Sony cares about are the big names like EA, Gameloft, Rockstar, etc. as they make the big majority of the Play game sales.
However, with regard to development, the Play is not important to those big names: they see it as "the redheaded stepchild Android", because they have to make extra effort to make it work with the game pads, instead of easily deploying the code in it like they do in the whole different platforms they code for (not only mobile phones, but smart TV's, console-related app stores, Steam and so on). Sony bribed those big developers with a lot of cash (remember all those free EA games and temporary exclusives?) so that the Play remained visible.
Fast forward to now. Gingerbread is present in a good 60% of Android Play Store-running hardware. ICS has only like.a 4%. Android is the best selling platform, with, let's say 500 million active devices. If my numbers are not wrong, that gives 300M GB devices 20M ICS ones. Developing with ICS in mind implies higher development costs, because you have to study the new features and use them. And of course, big name developers target wide audiences: by default they'll program with Gingerbread in mind, so they couldn't care less about ICS right now.
Someone mentioned Windows 7 incompatibility with old games: there is actually a Compatibility mode which was mainly designed for the purpose of using older games. Now Steam has taken care of that, which suits MS fine.
With the ICS upgrade, Sony probably contacted their "partners" and asked them to update their software (basically switch from the Sony custom gamepad framework to Google's standard one which Sony probably contributed themselves) for it to work properly in ICS, like they do in Sony gaming platforms. But unlike the PlayStations, it's those big name developers who are in control now, particularly in Android. Therefore, they showed Sony the middle finger.
Indie developers, on the other hand, are much more careful with their code, since they don't have the ability to port a game to twenty platforms and offset the possible losses of one platform with the other one. That means they produce code which is much better tailored to the platform they work on, and you can see it because most indie games work properly in both GB and ICS (note that I'm not talking about the quality of the game itself, but of its code).
TL;DR this is a power struggle between Sony and the big name game developers. The latter have won here, at the expense of the users. Support independent developers but make sure they don't make the "big name" status, because they'll get the need to control everything and screw users like this.
P.S if someone is so unhappy about not having ICS that they don't want that piece of crap lying around in their home, I offer to pay $50 plus shipping for it
Sony makes a Fony promise....
RIP Sony
I was looking for an ICS phone with gaming capability and decent specs, the Xperia play looked good and so I bought it as Sony had "promised" an ICS update. I am vvery dissatisfied and disappointed with them and hope they are hit with a lawsuit. If not id at least like some compensation.
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Just came across this. Sony's chief marketing officer announced no plans for a Xperia PLAY 2.
http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Xperia+Play/Sony+Ericsson+Xperia+Play/news.asp?c=41486
I simply hate touch screen controls and dont see myself getting another phone unless it has the game controls....so much better then touchscreen.
I really don't get it sow much people want an xperia play 2 or a phone like this but sony keeps saying no, why :s make an xperia play HD or at least a phone wits psych controls is enough for the most i think
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Just came across this. Sony's chief marketing officer announced no plans for a Xperia PLAY 2.
http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Xperia+Play/Sony+Ericsson+Xperia+Play/news.asp?c=41486
I simply hate touch screen controls and dont see myself getting another phone unless it has the game controls....so much better then touchscreen.
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on my opinion H/W controler is much better that touch control .
also xperia play 2 was one of my best wishes !
but now , don't care , really don't care sony waht sony said . cause they already don't know what they wanna do
Every article that says this is basically regurgitating the same thing: such and such "Squashed Rumors".
What rumors. What did he say EXACTLY? That's what I want to know, because the media (especially tech media) is very good at hearing something that isn't said.
Personally, I think that with a focus on the playstation experience, an xperia play 2 is inevitable.
I'd rather it to be called Xperia PlayHD.
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I'd rather it to be called Xperia PlayHD.
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Yeah, me too. A shame that they are not planing it just yet.
If it wasn't for the release price of the Xperia Play, I think that more people would have bought it. At least here, in Portugal.
It's still too early to be announcing the Xperia Play 2 cause the Vita was released a few months ago.
I bet SE were thinking, "How great are we, a part of a gamepad that is sort of a touchscreen, not buttons? Aren't we clever and innovative?"
Hmmm... No.
Hindsight is good; foresight Is better.
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I think the decision as of now would be no more XP2
Bcz XP is successfully as a play phone, but for help much to expend the PlayStation @ Android market.
I think for Sony, their aim is to sell the game but not just the phone.
Sony has sunk a lot of cash into the slow to react vita.... This is the reason for no ics.... Or a ver. 2......
(?) If you were in sony's shoes would you Not do the same thing?
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It wont be a Xperia play 2 it will be another version if the vita with phone capability or something along those lines
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It's easy to understand: if the Playstation Certified brand becomes a success then maybe we'll see a Xperia Play 2.
I don't get why Sony tries to piss off so much the XPlay owners/commmunity. Instead of continuously giving out bad news for the device, they should try to reconcile with us by giving something else in change.
Although Sony is a nice company with great ideas, concepts and products, they seem to fail at this matter. I am still waiting for a good update for XPlay with many new additions.
It won't be an Xperia Play 2. It'll be a "Playstation Phone"
It won't be either, Sony wanted to kill the play ever since they found out someone bought one instead of a vita.
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Whatever they do, a phone with Vita OS won't stand a chance.
First, majority of people need their phone to be dependable and secure, and NOT be a "plaything". An OS that evolved around a game console simply won't be treated seriously by consumers.
Second, Apps from all the major players are required such as google map, gmail, facebook, twitter, flash player, whatsapp, youtube, dropbox, etc... needless to say there's always arm-twisting between these, and other companies, to prevent any new OS from succeeding.
Without a serious image and support from these companies, a phone running on such an OS won't hit a critical mass required to attract app/content developers, and it will flop even harder than Xperia PLAY.
At this time, the next Xperia Play's best OS choice is still Android. But even then, I think Sony really dislike the idea of Playstation ecosystem sitting on top of Android. They may think it changes too fast, too many different hardware, or difficult to control piracy.
So even the best choice is not appealing. So I think Sony won't be putting Playstation content on Smartphones for years yet. And that's a shame because It think that's exactly what we all want happening now.
If you haven't heard, Sony and HTC are now partners with regards to PlayStation Certified devices, domains that's where the next Xperia PLAY will come from, although I haven't seen a flip or slide phone from HTC that sold well since the mytouch 4g. All I can say is that the next series of android phones will be very interesting to see, and only then can we truly discover where the xperia play will go.
IanPPK said:
If you haven't heard, Sony and HTC are now partners with regards to PlayStation Certified devices, domains that's where the next Xperia PLAY will come from, although I haven't seen a flip or slide phone from HTC that sold well since the mytouch 4g. All I can say is that the next series of android phones will be very interesting to see, and only then can we truly discover where the xperia play will go.
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I'm seriously hoping HTC produces a phone with a gamepad. I've had a thing against sony for a long time (going back to before PS3 launched, but its gotten ever worse ever since). I was seriously biting the bullet to get this phone for its gamepad functionality. I've always wanted an HTC phone, and if they manage to come out with a game phone with decent specs, I'll be all over it. Anything to shoot sony the bird.
If they gave the xperia play higher specs and made it more future proof then they would be seeing them starting to fly out now. Ironic at e3 they were saying they only put out the best.
This xperia play belongs in 2010
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Saw this the other day but just now decided to share it, I am sure many people have already seen this but in case there are some that have not..
Nyko and Nvidia have announced 2 new gamepads for the Tegra 3 devices, perhaps eventually these will be made available to all android devices. Personally I have the GameGripper on my last two android phones before coming to the Xperia PLAY. I would hate to have to drag around a game controller for my phone when the Xperia PLAY has it built into the device.... this would be a possiblity as a worst case scenario, still hoping that a Xperia PLAY 2 will come out... but in the event there really will not be a 2, these masy just work, I will give these props for having what looks like two nobs for the movement/viewing like on a xbox/ps3 controller.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...nd-nyko-partner-for-android-game-controllers/
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just saw this on the info from the E3
NO Xperia Play 2 BUT!!!!
HTC will be making a few Playstation certified devices more info google for it as i cant post links or anything yet its a ign video tho
djpigz said:
just saw this on the info from the E3
NO Xperia Play 2 BUT!!!!
HTC will be making a few Playstation certified devices more info google for it as i cant post links or anything yet its a ign video tho
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Yeah, saw that part too. I have never been a fan of HTC. All their phones look the same to me. If an xperia play 2 were to be released by HTC and it had gamepads and good specs I would strongly consider it... but it must have either stock vanilla android or some serious specs to push out the performance it would need for games with Sense. Anyway.... just my thoughts...
It seems the playstation certification has nothing to do with physical gamepad as the One series will be certified...
It's just about Sony and HTC exchanging some dollar bills...
well... atleast the analog thumbs are better
What do they expect us to do with a controller like this? How can we use it with a phone? I mean..we've had ways to use controllers on tablets/phones for a while. Am I going to have to prop it up to use it? Kind of defeats the purpose. They need a mount of some sort.
well if its new it will probably be quad core like the One X and if games are made specifically for it they could use all the 4 cores, but im with you, unless it has the gamepad built in im not really interested although i love Sony Xperia too much to even bother considering another make.
but Xperia are lagging in the smartphone market just bringing out a duel core when HTC just bring out a quad core its a smart move by Playstation to use there hardware, money and resources although i would love a Play2 its just never going to happen i think
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What do they expect us to do with a controller like this? How can we use it with a phone? I mean..we've had ways to use controllers on tablets/phones for a while. Am I going to have to prop it up to use it? Kind of defeats the purpose. They need a mount of some sort.
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Supposedly there is a spring like holder that pops up above the controller where your phone sits in place. And I believe the controller runs off of bluetooth.... I'll have to find the article. It gave more details then the one above, I just couldnt find where I read it...
Saw a comment somewhere that said that although the rumours for a Xperia play 2 were snubbed, its quite possible that the Playstation mobile would be for a series of phones touchbased and that if you wanted the king of Playstation mobile it would be a gamepad based gaming phone.... I dont know about that but if you really thought about it, it could be a great idea.
Make the Playstation mobile for a series of phones across the board from different manufacturers which would increase the devices visibility around the world, then add in addition a specific true gaming device that would share the same but with a gamepad.
Wonder........hmm........ if this were true it would at least provide Sony with the visibility and would allow more $$$ to flow into their pocket...
Isn't the Xperia S already PS Certified?
i really really can't understand , with so many request ... and there is so many gamers ...
why , really sony acting like that ! why sony never want to make a xperia play 2 .
sony has build several new phones and all of theme are the same !
xperis s , p , ion ... , i ( personally ) don't care , cause the difference is just on ram ,or camera ... ( like htc )
i have question : sony ,you have build all this phone same as each other ( just little diffrence ) , but why you don't want to build xperia play2 for us ?!!
i'm not sure if you have any request about (for example) xperia p . or acro , or ...
but it really make me confusing
those request should makes you glad , but you never listen to our request ...
i'm sorry for my comment , but sony-mobile acting really really bad disappointing
mehdi.moha said:
i really really can't understand , with so many request ... and there is so many gamers ...
why , really sony acting like that ! why sony never want to make a xperia play 2 .
sony has build several new phones and all of theme are the same !
xperis s , p , ion ... , i ( personally ) don't care , cause the difference is just on ram ,or camera ... ( like htc )
i have question : sony ,you have build all this phone same as each other ( just little diffrence ) , but why you don't want to build xperia play2 for us ?!!
i'm not sure if you have any request about (for example) xperia p . or acro , or ...
but it really make me confusing
those request should makes you glad , but you never listen to our request ...
i'm sorry for my comment , but sony-mobile acting really really bad disappointing
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They won't make a Play 2 because the current Play was pretty much a failure......It's as simple as that.
You want proof?
Ask Nokia how things went for them when the N-Gage failed. Even putting the games on the N-Series was a disaster.
It's in Sonys best interest not to repeat Nokias mistake as after the N-Gage/N-Series, Nokia has pretty much fallen off of the face of the Earth
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They won't make a Play 2 because the current Play was pretty much a failure......It's as simple as that.
You want proof?
Ask Nokia how things went for them when the N-Gage failed. Even putting the games on the N-Series was a disaster.
It's in Sonys best interest not to repeat Nokias mistake as after the N-Gage/N-Series, Nokia has pretty much fallen off of the face of the Earth
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The current Play failed... but the N-gage was a disaster of epic proportions compared to it. The Play was a rousing success in comparison.
They could theoretically launch a new Play that is better specced and not have the problems they had with this. The main problem with the Play is the "Geeks" saw right through the specifications and wrote the phone off immediately. If you can't sell the crowd thats gonna be showing it off to their friends and that people trust their opinions, you won't be selling any of them. All the gadget blogs ragged on it no matter how well it ran due to the slow spec as well. Theres a large crowd that doesn't see beyond cnet.com and gizmodo.com .
Thats who needs to be sold on it.
If I have to drain my battery with a BT connection, care about managing the charge for two devices and deal with the pair/connect nonsense... then it's just as bad as living in the touch screen gaming ghetto.
I see these controller peripherals becoming yet another iControlPad/Gametel in the sense that it'll be completely goddamned useless outside of emulators... never anywhere close to being compatible with over 300 games like Xperia Play is.
Xperia Play til the day it dies!
Agreed. Could not have said it better.
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There will probably never be an Xperia Play 2. Will there be a true Playstation Phone? Maybe, or maybe Sony will simply integrate calling features into the Vita. It would be too much competition with the Vita for them to release a powerful, Playstation Certified PSPhone anytime soon. Let's just be honest. Perhaps 10+ years from now there will be some next-gen mobile gaming device from Sony, but it doesn't seem to be anywhere in sight right now. It's just not a wise business decision at the moment.
i dont know about everyone but I've always been an HTC fan, their XDA community has always been great and updated and I wouldn't look back for once if HTC releases a new phone with gamepad which of course they cannot because of Sony.
And besides I have bought an iPad last week, gaming on it is surprisingly very good with all the Gameloft releases. Dont have to wait for months for android version of the same game. I can play the new Asphalt 7 and the Amazing Spider-Man before it's android release.
As for phones One X it is.
I'm not an ICS fan but I'm not even getting proper selling price for Xperia Play now since its still running gingerbread.
This was from the E3 kiosk for the new gamepad. With video
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/05/nykos-playpad-and-playpad-pro-android-tablet-controllers-hands/
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This was from the E3 kiosk for the new gamepad. With video
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/05/nykos-playpad-and-playpad-pro-android-tablet-controllers-hands/
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Still though it's an external gamepad.
The Xperia Play has a built in one so no competition there
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This was from the E3 kiosk for the new gamepad. With video
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/05/nykos-playpad-and-playpad-pro-android-tablet-controllers-hands/
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Thats pretty cool I may buy one for my Iconia. Good for if I'm on a business trip and I want to play a game on a TV in the Hotel. Not gonna shelp my PS3.
While these i5 MUCH and JXD devices may be a great handheld consoles, they are in no way an Xperia Play replacement. What makes Xperia Play cool and unique is that it looks like a slick, profesional phone you can use in the adult world without no one guessing it's also a great handheld console. This is the defining point and "an Xperia Play alternative" MUST have this feature. To anyone past high school it would look extremely stupid trying to have a public conversation holding these things.
So far, the Bladepad is the only legit replacement i've seen so far. The downside is you need to own an iPhone and I refuse to buy one. There is the small posibility they would release Bladepads for the most famous Android phones, so in a perfect scenareo I could buy a Galaxy 3 or 4 (whichever has better battery durability) and a Bladepad. But i've been waiting for ages and no news, so I guess I will need to buy a Xperia Play since for some reason no one is capitalizing on the slide-gamepad+phone thing. I only want to play old dos classics like Duke, Doom, and snes/gb emulations and thats it. The most hardware demanding game I like is the Carmageddon one, so I dont really need much extra power than what the Xperia Play has. It also has good battery life which is very important when gaming.
Yes I would love an Xperia Play 2 but im tired of waiting and it's just not happening, and no one wants to release a slide-gamepad+phone so there's no other option so I need to buy one asap to satisfy my gaming needs.
You guys think this is a legit Xperia Play new in box?
ebay.com/itm/New-Android-Sony-Ericsson-XPERIA-Play-R800i-Black-Unlocked-Smartphone-/331004480800?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item4d11678d20[/url]
Im from spain so I need the i800 version if im not mistaken.
Thanks
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This is the defining point and "an Xperia Play alternative" MUST have this feature. To anyone past high school it would look extremely stupid trying to have a public conversation holding these things.
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You're stating your opinion as fact. I do not care if you or anyone else thinks I'd look "stupid" using a JXD or i5 Much in public. I do not own either of those phones, I use Nexus devices, but those who do own those devices surely enjoy their phones.
You say that you don't care to play new games that are coming out, and there's nothing wrong with that, but most people do care about playing the latest games. The Xperia Play doesn't have the specs needed to enjoy many of the latest titles, and people are moving on because they care about gaming.
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You're stating your opinion as fact. I do not care if you or anyone else thinks I'd look "stupid" using a JXD or i5 Much in public. I do not own either of those phones, I use Nexus devices, but those who do own those devices surely enjoy their phones.
You say that you don't care to play new games that are coming out, and there's nothing wrong with that, but most people do care about playing the latest games. The Xperia Play doesn't have the specs needed to enjoy many of the latest titles, and people are moving on because they care about gaming.
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I agree. I own the Much I5 and enjoy it very much. yes it would be nice to hide the controls for convenience, but not because i think people judge me. 75% of the people that see me using it think that its awesome and want to know more about it and the other 25% don't care and go on with their own business. The Xperia Play is a gaming phone with physical controls this means anything can be its alternative as long as it have has those things.
PS: I can't wait for the release of the next Xperia Play but till then these alternatives will have to do.
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PS: I can't wait for the release of the next Xperia Play but till then these alternatives will have to do.
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Sony isn't going to make an Xperia Play 2, they can't even get people to buy the Vita.
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Sony isn't going to make an Xperia Play 2, they can't even get people to buy the Vita.
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Even if Sony doesn't make it i'm just talking about in general a major flagship company. Such as samsung, LG, Moterola, .....etc.
I wouldn't trade my xperia play for any phone.
It seems you're like me, playing mostly old games with emulator (tbh I think most android games are total crap except oldies remake).
The xperia play is just perfect for that, it doesn't need an upgrade, yet.
Maybe for the smartphone part, but it's just fine with it for the gaming part.
The day they release a PS2 emulator for android with more hardware requirement that'll be a different story though.
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I wouldn't trade my xperia play for any phone.
It seems you're like me, playing mostly old games with emulator (tbh I think most android games are total crap except oldies remake).
The xperia play is just perfect for that, it doesn't need an upgrade, yet.
Maybe for the smartphone part, but it's just fine with it for the gaming part.
The day they release a PS2 emulator for android with more hardware requirement that'll be a different story though.
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I have no words to describe how amazing that would be. Even right now thinking about it makes my heart pump.
Quick question to every one if they had a ps2 emulator that ran flawlessly right now, what would be you first game to play on it. For me it would be Jak and Daxter.
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to be honest ,
personally ... i have to , again , I HAVE to change mt phone and i wanna try samsung this time . i never wil back to sony for soooooooooooooooooo mant reason.
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dukedoom said:
While these i5 MUCH and JXD devices may be a great handheld consoles, they are in no way an Xperia Play replacement. What makes Xperia Play cool and unique is that it looks like a slick, profesional phone you can use in the adult world without no one guessing it's also a great handheld console. This is the defining point and "an Xperia Play alternative" MUST have this feature. To anyone past high school it would look extremely stupid trying to have a public conversation holding these things.
So far, the Bladepad is the only legit replacement i've seen so far. The downside is you need to own an iPhone and I refuse to buy one. There is the small posibility they would release Bladepads for the most famous Android phones, so in a perfect scenareo I could buy a Galaxy 3 or 4 (whichever has better battery durability) and a Bladepad. But i've been waiting for ages and no news, so I guess I will need to buy a Xperia Play since for some reason no one is capitalizing on the slide-gamepad+phone thing. I only want to play old dos classics like Duke, Doom, and snes/gb emulations and thats it. The most hardware demanding game I like is the Carmageddon one, so I dont really need much extra power than what the Xperia Play has. It also has good battery life which is very important when gaming.
Yes I would love an Xperia Play 2 but im tired of waiting and it's just not happening, and no one wants to release a slide-gamepad+phone so there's no other option so I need to buy one asap to satisfy my gaming needs.
You guys think this is a legit Xperia Play new in box?
ebay.com/itm/New-Android-Sony-Ericsson-XPERIA-Play-R800i-Black-Unlocked-Smartphone-/331004480800?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item4d11678d20[/url]
Im from spain so I need the i800 version if im not mistaken.
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isn't this a bit cheaper.. even this is high for this phone nw.. but still.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson...F8&qid=1387012728&sr=8-2&keywords=xperia+play
I have to agree that there is no real alternative yet to Xperia Play with regards to the hidden keypad. But as a gaming phone, I guess the JXD and iMuch are close enough... gameplay wise. So it really falls onto the user if he wants to buy a device that's obviously aimed at gaming. I'm honestly torn about it since the phones are made and designed in China and may have suspect quality in terms of hardware and software. So I don't know, I'll probably wait for good custom roms or better support from the companies before actually buying one. I still use my Xperia Play as an MP3 player and a gaming device on the go but my Galaxy Note 10.1 is my current cellphone. Now if Nintendo made a 3DS that's also a cellphone, then my life would be so complete.
Like I said, the iMuch and JXD devices are great devices, but they aren't Xperia Play alternatives because for this, at least IMO they lack the defining feature of a perfectly stealth console in a phone. If I was in a business reunion and I got I a call and went like "excuse me, I have a call" and popped out a PSP into my ear and started talking people would think I must be ****ing kidding.
So having said that, can anyone tell me if the link I posted is a legit new Xperia Play? I dont want to buy the wrong one. Also, should i be expecting that price? It seems ovepriced to me.
Can't believe they're still selling Xperia Play and new.
Haven't Sony stopped producing it ?
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Can't believe they're still selling Xperia Play and new.
Haven't Sony stopped producing it ?
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they still have it.. in UAE .. its for like 700 for a new phone.. still.. it came out and it was 1500.. still after 2 years.. its cheaper..
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they still have it.. in UAE .. its for like 700 for a new phone.. still.. it came out and it was 1500.. still after 2 years.. its cheaper..
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What are these crazy prices in?
The link I posted are new in box and 140€
Can anyone tell me if the link I posted is a legit Xperia Play??
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Can anyone tell me if the link I posted is a legit Xperia Play??
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sorry bro.. really don't know about ebay much.. but some comparison for your help below.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004N861MG/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new
its amazon.. so for sure its legit.