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Hi all,
I realize this is a post about a Motorola phone but please bear with me.
As you might know, the Milestone firmware is firmly locked, unlike its cousin Droid. Among many things, this forbids overclocking because we can't change the kernel and unlock new frequencies.
However I developed a solution that allows overclocking by changing key structures directly in the kernel memory in runtime. All you need is a rooted phone; no flashing involved. For this to work, the module must know two memory addresses that are specific to each kernel. Fortunately, Motorola appears to have reused its kernel on most 2.1 firmwares, and I've yet to come across a firmware where it doesn't work by default. Confirmed working are Central Europe, Telus and Brazilian firmwares. Testers are welcome to give it a try.
Now for the relevant part for XDA: in theory this can be applied to any kernel on any other phone. You may say it's unneeded because you can already overclock; but you must flash a specific kernel to get a particular speed. It would be much better to be able to set any maximum frequency/voltage on the fly without flashing or rebooting. For instance, you could overclock to 1.0 GHz before a browsing or gaming session and then return to a lower frequency like 600 MHz, though still overcloked, for battery savings and safety. It's up to you.
Milestone users can try it out now:
http://code.google.com/p/milestone-overclock/
For the rest of you, what do you think?
sounds fantastic, I'd love to check it out but for the life of me I can't find the page.
If you want to pm it to me, I'll post it.
Nice. Telus Milestone User here. Would love to learn how to do this for mine.
Here is the project link:
http://code.google.com/p/milestone-overclock/
found it. looks like a fantastic idea.
How can we help get the addresses?
awesome .....wht there is no milestone/droid section here is beyond me ....wtf
Because it was decreed months ago by someone and no one seems to like changing their mind once they make a decision in this day and age.....
but it's need to root, could you fix it？
stevecai said:
but it's need to root, could you fix it？
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what's the problem with rooting the milestone? There's plenty of solutions for that. Just no custom kernel/ramdisk, which this works around by using a kernel module.
hi,
i use the 2.1-reu version on my milestone,
but in order to prevent the 2.1 introduced alarm bug,
i have updated the kernel (only) to the 2.1-telus
(via a sbf).
is possible to use this mod to overlock my phone?
how?
if not, how help you to obtain the addresses?
thank's and continue your great work!
robert
gemini002 said:
awesome .....wht there is no milestone/droid section here is beyond me ....wtf
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XDA is a HTC developer forum, not an Android forum. Google some moto modding sites, i know modmymoto.com is pretty good, found out how to root the Cliq (garbage) there.
staticshadow said:
XDA is a HTC developer forum, not an Android forum. Google some moto modding sites, i know modmymoto.com is pretty good, found out how to root the Cliq (garbage) there.
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I have read this explanation several times.
I do not mind, but then because there are subforums dedicated to sonyericsson, hp, etc in xda.
modmymoto is good but the best developers site is, withous any doubt, xda-developers!
Re: milestone-overclock
Xda-developers is for htc and android is for porn.
Welcome to xda btw and great job. Now prepared to be flamed for uttering the M word.
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ady said:
android is for porn.
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are you Steve Jobs ?
miragu said:
Hi all,
Now for the relevant part for XDA: in theory this can be applied to any kernel on any other phone.
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Will the method to find the right address that will be posted at /wiki/Disassembly work with every phone and kernel,too?
Has the app something like a setting where you can just change the address to the one you found with the method above?
Would really love an overclocked 2.1 on the HTC HERO. There is no oc-2.1-kernel for the Hero, yet.
Thanks for the great work, til now!
this is a good via to mod any application.
please, publish the source code of your applicacion ASAP.
thx
Source code for the kernel module released
Hi all,
Thank you for your support. I've just uploaded the source code for the kernel module and also the standalone module itself (it's included in the apk but still). Will write the Disassembly section soon, stay tuned.
miragu said:
Hi all,
Thank you for your support. I've just uploaded the source code for the kernel module and also the standalone module itself (it's included in the apk but still). Will write the Disassembly section soon, stay tuned.
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hi,
i'm interested on include this in my system applications directory,
in order to prevent your deletion on hardreset, and in order to make it available FOREVER
the instructions are that:
cp OverClock.apk /system/app
cp OverClock.ko /system/lib
????
thx
The overclock.ko is created automatically when you press the "Load module" button in /data/data/pt.com.darksun.milestoneoverclock/files/overclock.ko. You don't need to copy it. I'm providing it separately so that people can load/bundle it without ever running the apk.
bartito said:
hi,
i'm interested on include this in my system applications directory,
in order to prevent your deletion on hardreset, and in order to make it available FOREVER
the instructions are that:
cp OverClock.apk /system/app
cp OverClock.ko /system/lib
????
thx
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ok,
if i'm interested on have overclocking on my milestone after boot the system, and don't interested on manually execute the apk on each reboot, i need only to copy the OverClock.ko to /data/data/pt.com.darksun.milestoneoverclock/files/overclock.ko on boot time ?
but in your wiki page says to execute "insmod overclock.ko max_rate=800000 max_vsel=62"
please, provide me instructions to set overclock in boot time
The module created by the apk is preserved across reboots. However, if you want to run the module completely standalone I recommend you put it in /data/local/overclock.ko and run insmod /data/local/overclock.ko max_rate=800000 max_vsel=62
All,
per positive response below is a link to a copy of ivanmmj Eris_Official 1.0 ROM that I have fully deodexed. This is more meant for devs for continued play time, but it is a flashable ROM. PLEASE NOTE that ivanmmj himself looks to be coming out with the next version of Eris_Official 1.0 per his thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652044.
Hope this is helpful and Enjoy
Link: REMOVED FROM HOST SERVER
P.S. please let me know of any issues as this is my first full deodex also I would like to encurage using this tread to exploring moding some of the system files on Eris ROM builds as it has been fun to tweak things
P.P.S. If you want the Zanfer kernel let me know and I will look at adding it in however ivanmmj's new version should have it...
what is Deodex?
I'm definitely interested, but I also think Ivan is working on the same project himself. I'm pretty sure his "1.1" is deodexed and has Zanfur's kernel. Not sure what other changes he has in mind, but you might want to check with him before posting since you'll end up being the one getting all the PM's from people wanting help. ;-)
Yes please I'm looking for exactly that
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That would be awesome.
Sent from my Eris using XDA App
BTW jcase's plain jane1.0 has zanfur overclocking kernel.....
i dont know what you think but it might be a better platorm than ivanmmjs
a deodexed version of that would be tight....
kernels are easy to compile and swap out, a different kernel isnt going to influence the build at all
i always seem to get better battery life from the non oc'ed kernel.
Morkai Almandragon said:
what is Deodex?
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Yes, what does that mean ?
hallstevenson said:
Yes, what does that mean ?
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it means you have a classes.dex file rather than a .odex file
it makes things easier, its also possible to metamorph these builds and its possible to install a deoexed app on multiple platforms.
anonomouse said:
it means you have a classes.dex file rather than a .odex file
it makes things easier, its also possible to metamorph these builds and its possible to install a deoexed app on multiple platforms.
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Means I can finally modify Rosie.apk to my liking.
hallstevenson said:
Yes, what does that [deodex] mean ?
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A more experienced developer can add more but a few quick basics:
.odex files are precompiled class flies that correlate to a .apk or .jar file. In an odex ROM an .apk/.jar file will not function without it's correlated .odex.
a deodex build takes all of the .odex files converts them to a classes.dex and puts them into the .apk or .jar file package
deodex ROM are easier to mod because each .apk or .jar is a "complete" package and can be more easily decompiled and ported (i.e. you do not have to worry about the .odex files)
A deodexed build requires less space in /system, but more space in /data
A deodexed build requires a longer initial boot because they must regenerating those odex files from the dex files in the .apks/.jars and save them to /data/dalvik-cache
Thats a quick list of what I know
odex only help speed up app loading time and first time boot. Think of this as Windows' prefetch.
If you want to re-create odex for apk for porting, etc... I suggest only do this to /system/app not /data/app because when you do update from market and your app will break, unless you wipe out dalvik-cache.
zach.xtr said:
This is more meant for devs for continued play time, but it is a flashable ROM.
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Would this be ok for an every day ROM? Or should it just be used by dev's as a base ROM?
Hey guys I've been testing this for Ivan. same thing he has a version deodexed.
I edited this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=664951
to work for this rom. which works great, but I get an error of
com.htc.bgp because of it, does anyone have any idea why?
Romparoo said:
Would this be ok for an every day ROM? Or should it just be used by dev's as a base ROM?
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Technically it is fine as an everyday ROM, however I do not recomend using it for such because it is not support and will have no additional features over ivanmmj origional 1.0.
So I guess, yes it meant to be used as a base ROM or "spare parts" for devs.
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Hey guys I've been testing this for Ivan. same thing he has a version deodexed.
I edited this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=664951
to work for this rom. which works great, but I get an error of
com.htc.bgp because of it, does anyone have any idea why?
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Someone else did this, on androidforums.com. I haven't replied to his posting, but it's in like page 19 of the 'show off your UI layout' thread there. I'm working on a modified Rosie.apk right now, as soon as I get this de-odex'd Ivan's on my phone running. Titanium backup here I come.
FYI, I was able to flash the deodexed version over the original Eris_Official 1.0 Alpha without having to do a full wipe (just wiped dalvik-cache). Naturally, I went back and re-flashed Zanfur's overclock kernel after that.
Is there a tun.ko file available for the Eris? And if so, is it something that just need to compile against a specific kernel (ie, CFSv4 vs BFSv4) or just the kernel version (ie 2.6.29)?
Basically, I'm trying to get VPN Connections connections to work so I can connect to Penn State's wifi (which uses "pure" ipsec authentication). Any time I try to connect, the app force closes, which seems to be a result of the missing tun.ko file.
(If there isn't one currently available, would one of you super awesome devs compile one? I'd be super appreciative.)
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Is there a tun.ko file available for the Eris? And if so, is it something that just need to compile against a specific kernel (ie, CFSv4 vs BFSv4) or just the kernel version (ie 2.6.29)?
Basically, I'm trying to get VPN Connections connections to work so I can connect to Penn State's wifi (which uses "pure" ipsec authentication). Any time I try to connect, the app force closes, which seems to be a result of the missing tun.ko file.
(If there isn't one currently available, would one of you super awesome devs compile one? I'd be super appreciative.)
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I believe it needs to be compiled against the specific kernel source but i'm not sure.....I went ahead and compiled one for you but I had some changes to my source since CFSv4 so I compiled a new kernel with the tun.ko file. I'm assuming it needs to be in the system/lib/modules/ folder so that where I put it in the update script. This script will flash the CFSv5 kernel and put the tun.ko file in system/lib/modules. If you just want the tun.ko file you can pull it out of the update script.....I really don't know alot about vpn's so haven't done any testing on it but you can try it and let me know how it goes...I have been running this kernel for a little while and it is stable.
Edit post: I guess a link would be helpful....CFS Kernel with tun.ko
Haha, awesome! Flashing now. I'll update with my results.
Edit: Works fantastic! Thanks so much Conap!
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I believe it needs to be compiled against the specific kernel source but i'm not sure.....I went ahead and compiled one for you but I had some changes to my source since CFSv4 so I compiled a new kernel with the tun.ko file. I'm assuming it needs to be in the system/lib/modules/ folder so that where I put it in the update script. This script will flash the CFSv5 kernel and put the tun.ko file in system/lib/modules. If you just want the tun.ko file you can pull it out of the update script.....I really don't know alot about vpn's so haven't done any testing on it but you can try it and let me know how it goes...I have been running this kernel for a little while and it is stable.
Edit post: I guess a link would be helpful....CFS Kernel with tun.ko
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Conap, you and Deca are Super Devs! Like in capes and tights lol ok, maybe not the tights!
I'm sneakin' that CFSv5 on my phone... shhh, don't look!
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Conap, you and Deca are Super Devs! Like in capes and tights lol ok, maybe not the tights!
I'm sneakin' that CFSv5 on my phone... shhh, don't look!
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lol yeah i figured i'd post it over on the cfs thread too lol....
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lol yeah i figured i'd post it over on the cfs thread too lol....
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I seen that lol, thanks for answering that question too, even though I was comfortable in assuming it was the same... but that gets me in trouble sometimes, had to ask.
cifs.ko and tun.ko for Eris
Hi
I was looking for a tun.ko for my Eris as well, and was excited to see this thread... unfortunately it appears the link above is now broken.
Conap, I'm running Condemned CM7 on my Eris and I was looking for a tun.ko and cifs.ko. I looked at your kernel thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774211
and downloaded DecufuctCFSV9, where I found a tun.ko in /system/lib/modules. However when I tried installing this on my phone via insmod, I got a "failed (exec format error)" so I presume it is not compatible.
Does anyone know where or how I can get the correct cifs and tun kernel modules? Thanks!
Wow, Resurrection lol. All the way from September 2010!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19787703&postcount=6887
tun.ko, but no cifs.ko unless I built it into the kernel and don't remember
i begged for that back in june, it was mongoosehelix who compiled it. it only took me 5 months to check my private messages.
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i begged for that back in june, it was mongoosehelix who compiled it. it only took me 5 months to check my private messages.
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? I was talking about this thread.
Mongoose didn't compile the one I linked you to, this is the .29 kernel I compiled with a tun.ko module and will be in my next eris rom.
... you don't have to use it.
yeah, your kernel is what im running now. i was saying that i sent out a quesiton in june asking the same thing, and he had actually compiled a tun.ko that worked in june, but it wasnt until the message i sent to you that i actually checked the messages to see if it worked.
at any rate, i find it easier to use your kernel than have to pump in a driver for tunneling. keep up the great work!
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yeah, your kernel is what im running now. i was saying that i sent out a quesiton in june asking the same thing, and he had actually compiled a tun.ko that worked in june, but it wasnt until the message i sent to you that i actually checked the messages to see if it worked.
at any rate, i find it easier to use your kernel than have to pump in a driver for tunneling. keep up the great work!
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Sorry, not enough coffee today for me, I understand now.
Could you please give this a test, nand first of course, or just have the other kernel zip ready to flash again if problems.
This has a freshly compiled cifs.ko which is quite large in file size. I think I may have added to many options for it. Let me know how it goes (PM me if you can)
I tried
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Sorry, not enough coffee today for me, I understand now.
Could you please give this a test, nand first of course, or just have the other kernel zip ready to flash again if problems.
This has a freshly compiled cifs.ko which is quite large in file size. I think I may have added to many options for it. Let me know how it goes (PM me if you can)
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Thread resurrection FTW! Well hey I'm still rockin the eris and it's good to see there still so much support. Thanks so much for being responsive.
First I tried insmod-ing the tun.ko from the original link you send, then I tried the tun.ko in this recent zip; both failed on insmod. Then I tried flashing this zip with cifs and tun in it; boot took a long time, when it came up I still got the same error trying to connect to the vpn. Any tips to help analyzing what's failing?
If it ends up working on your ROM I may switch.
Thanks again.
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Sorry, not enough coffee today for me, I understand now.
Could you please give this a test, nand first of course, or just have the other kernel zip ready to flash again if problems.
This has a freshly compiled cifs.ko which is quite large in file size. I think I may have added to many options for it. Let me know how it goes (PM me if you can)
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workshed,
I just made some progress on these kernel modules... I tried cifs via CifsManager and it works! I also tried insmod-ing tun.ko *after* flashing this zip and it worked without error; however I still got an error when trying to connect to the VPN. If there's any other ideas you have let me know; perhaps it could be a problem with my VPN settings but they seem ok....
Thanks so much
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Thread resurrection FTW! Well hey I'm still rockin the eris and it's good to see there still so much support. Thanks so much for being responsive.
First I tried insmod-ing the tun.ko from the original link you send, then I tried the tun.ko in this recent zip; both failed on insmod. Then I tried flashing this zip with cifs and tun in it; boot took a long time, when it came up I still got the same error trying to connect to the vpn. Any tips to help analyzing what's failing?
If it ends up working on your ROM I may switch.
Thanks again.
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workshed,
I just made some progress on these kernel modules... I tried cifs via CifsManager and it works! I also tried insmod-ing tun.ko *after* flashing this zip and it worked without error; however I still got an error when trying to connect to the VPN. If there's any other ideas you have let me know; perhaps it could be a problem with my VPN settings but they seem ok....
Thanks so much
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Hmm, this user comfirmed the tun.ko working, so it may be your settings. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19810279&postcount=6890
Yeah basically you should be able to flash that zip and have everything working, maybe needing a reboot after the flash is all. That is, I'm still not sure if the cifs.ko is working correctly or not.
Working!
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Hmm, this user comfirmed the tun.ko working, so it may be your settings. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19810279&postcount=6890
Yeah basically you should be able to flash that zip and have everything working, maybe needing a reboot after the flash is all. That is, I'm still not sure if the cifs.ko is working correctly or not.
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I spoke too soon... so I still haven't got vpn working via the CM7 built-in interface, I think it has something to do with the certificates. However then I tried the app "OpenVPN Settings" and set that up with my certs and .ovpn file. Hit a few bumps but I have it working now! The CIFS is also working. I'm actually using both together right now... I'm VPN'd to my home network and have mounted one of my local shares via CIFS over the VPN. Pure magic; thanks so much for your help. Will donate!
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I spoke too soon... so I still haven't got vpn working via the CM7 built-in interface, I think it has something to do with the certificates. However then I tried the app "OpenVPN Settings" and set that up with my certs and .ovpn file. Hit a few bumps but I have it working now! The CIFS is also working. I'm actually using both together right now... I'm VPN'd to my home network and have mounted one of my local shares via CIFS over the VPN. Pure magic; thanks so much for your help. Will donate!
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Glad you got it working, congrats!
Thank you for testing and sharing your findings, always helpful. Let me know if you run into any weird problems with it, and thank YOU for the contribution!
There seems to be issues with baksmali/smali v1.2.6 when deodexing latest samsung roms (2.3.4 maybe also some 2.3.3!).
If you baksmali framework.odex and smali it back to a dex file (without changing anything) your ROM will become laggy!
Some people say its the hardware acceleration that no longer works.
The web browser becomes unusable. There have been reports that video player and camera also seems laggy.
My suggestion is NOT to deodex framework.odex! I'm sorry to say this...
I know this means no custom deodexed roms! But I do believe you will run into more problems we don't know about yet!
But you can still do mods!
Just not deodexed framework mods. You can deodex apk files in the app folder. You can also try and deodex files in the framework folder as long and you dont deodex the framework.odex file! But here you have to convert them back to odex files!
As proof I have made this mod for stock XXKG1. I have the odexed the files back to odex using the dexopt-wrapper tool.
It is not just 1.2.6, I have built from the latest source and still has problems.
I disagree 100% fwiw with OP
I have no speed issues beyond that stupid browser, and that looks just like a baksmali bug. I don't do the "quit" attitude - I will fix it...
But anyway, there is no lag or anything here, even on 2.3.4 deodexed and underclocked.
So while there may be a browser issue, I would not suggest to people not to deodex. I can provide thousands of posts of people happy with a properly Deodexed and optimised ROM...
do we know why this happens? Is there an logic explanation
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do we know why this happens? Is there an logic explanation
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Most likely minor baksmali bug
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It is not just 1.2.6, I have built from the latest source and still has problems.
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Maybe if we can debug using source we can figure out what goes wrong!
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I disagree 100% fwiw with OP
I have no speed issues beyond that stupid browser, and that looks just like a baksmali bug. I don't do the "quit" attitude - I will fix it...
But anyway, there is no lag or anything here, even on 2.3.4 deodexed and underclocked.
So while there may be a browser issue, I would not suggest to people not to deodex. I can provide thousands of posts of people happy with a properly Deodexed and optimised ROM...
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I hope you are right... But alot people also complains about all sorts of problems with the custom roms... and we dont really know if its related to this or not...
I spent all yesterday thinking about that...
The odex file is only valid when used with the exact BOOTCLASSPATH files. dalvik enforces this by storing a checksum of each file that the odex file is dependent on, and ensuring that the checksum for each file matches when the odex file is loaded.
When you are deodexing an apk, even if you don't need to set BOOTCLASSPATH for it (because you don't get any error msg while baksmali), by default these 5 jar are already included in the classpath: core.jar, ext.jar, framework.jar, android.policy.jar and services.jar. This means that an odex file has dependencies on every "BOOTCLASSPATH" file that is loaded when it is generated.
So i was thinking about to deodexing every apk in /system/app a part Browser.apk (i.e leaving Browser.odex) and try to figure out which jar file inside /system/framework has to remain odexed.
Maybe we can still have overscroll glow mod, renounce to have the extended power menu in order to get an HW accellerated Browser!
I don't know if it make sense for you as my english need to be improved
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I hope you are right... But alot people also complains about all sorts of problems with the custom roms... and we dont really know if its related to this or not...
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You got any examples to hand?
The common issues I see are
- failing to read my install instructions
- trying to come from some other ROM without following the instructions
- trying to restore titanium backups entirely, depositing apps that are codes like half-polished turds in the phone
- pushing incorrect files into rom without knowing what they are doing
- stupid setcpu config
Am interested to see if you have found other issues, as camera and video player are confirmed by a fair number to be fine...
I swapped my phone with one running stock, and I had to tell my friend what I had done, as he was sure it was his oh, and I was underclocked to 800 max too at the time
pulser_g2 said:
You got any examples to hand?
The common issues I see are
- failing to read my install instructions
- trying to come from some other ROM without following the instructions
- trying to restore titanium backups entirely, depositing apps that are codes like half-polished turds in the phone
- pushing incorrect files into rom without knowing what they are doing
- stupid setcpu config
Am interested to see if you have found other issues, as camera and video player are confirmed by a fair number to be fine...
I swapped my phone with one running stock, and I had to tell my friend what I had done, as he was sure it was his oh, and I was underclocked to 800 max too at the time
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The frameword.odex is not compiled correctly!! That's a fact!! The laggy browser proofs it. Framework.odex the largest most important file in the android framework!! And that does not concern you? Is that not a bit naive?
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The frameword.odex is not compiled correctly!! That's a fact!! The laggy browser proofs it. Framework.odex the largest most important file in the android framework!! And that does not concern you? Is that not a bit naive?
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I believe what I see. I have asked HomerSp if he can take a look at it, when he can, as he knows a lot about the deodexing process.
But at the end of the day, while there is clearly something not working in baksmali or smali, this seems a good opportunity to fix it and pass on the fix to JF
I know what is in framework.jar, and that it covers most things...
I do genuinely have interest in seeing the issues you raised, as perhaps there is disparity between methods of deodexing??? I am interested to see if I can reproduce any here too, as that would highlight a wider issue.
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I believe what I see. I have asked HomerSp if he can take a look at it, when he can, as he knows a lot about the deodexing process.
But at the end of the day, while there is clearly something not working in baksmali or smali, this seems a good opportunity to fix it and pass on the fix to JF
I know what is in framework.jar, and that it covers most things...
I do genuinely have interest in seeing the issues you raised, as perhaps there is disparity between methods of deodexing??? I am interested to see if I can reproduce any here too, as that would highlight a wider issue.
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Well.... I will not use deodexed custom roms so I won't find any issues!!! But some people probably will or already has...
I'd rather spend my time on fixing this and create odexed mods until its fixed!
As soon as I see that the framework.odex can be compiled without breaking the browser... I might try some custom roms again..
That's weird. I'm using Lite'ning 1,5 ROM (which is deodexed) since i bought this phone and everything runs very smooth (including browser, video playback, gaming, launcher and so on). Before i had HTC Desire Z with CM7 on it and it was freezing slow if compared to my current setup. It's just flying.
AllWin said:
That's weird. I'm using Lite'ning 1,5 ROM (which is deodexed) since i bought this phone and everything runs very smooth (including browser, video playback, gaming, launcher and so on). Before i had HTC Desire Z with CM7 on it and it was freezing slow if compared to my current setup. It's just flying.
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I know that version (2.2) does not include the original stock browser but a patched version.
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I know that version (2.2) does not include the original stock browser but a patched version.
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You're basing all your points on 1 main problem, the browser.
That's hardly the way to go. Rather, they will work to solving the problem regarding the browser, then we can continue to have proper custom roms. Besides, KG1 is a leaked rom. Deodexing didn't affect KF2, it might not cause problems for later leaked or "official" roms.
Rather than directing others to your odexed mods, the way for things to move on is to see the problem being fixed. There's a reason why custom roms are almost always deodexed. Don't rock the boat if you don't like the status quo.
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You're basing all your points on 1 main problem, the browser.
That's hardly the way to go. Rather, they will work to solving the problem regarding the browser, then we can continue to have proper custom roms. Besides, KG1 is a leaked rom. Deodexing didn't affect KF2, it might not cause problems for later leaked or "official" roms.
Rather than directing others to your odexed mods, the way for things to move on is to see the problem being fixed. There's a reason why custom roms are almost always deodexed. Don't rock the boat if you don't like the status quo.
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That's actually exactly what I am saying!! Don't spend time on fixing the browser! Spend time on fixing the baksmali/smali tools!!
But until that's fixed I believe you can't really rely on the deodexed roms because framework.odex does not compile correctly!!
Some people said that you can't do mods that are odexed!! Thats the reason for the example! You actually don't need to deodex the framework!! But I admit.. it's easier not to odex files...
BTW guys, following the OP IDEA i got my own custom rom working with the odexed stock Browser (i.e. HW accellerated).
Basically all the apps have been deodexed apart Browser, and i left the framework jar files odexed!
Basically i got the same features/mod as before, the only think i have to renounce is the overscroll glow effect (i don't like it at all, i prefer the stock Samsung bounce effect) and the extended power menu (we can easily replace it by using quickboot).
That's it
thanks _JKay_ for the IDEA!
But I do think the problems wont fix itself in the future. The SGS facing the same problems with XXJVQ!!
LeoMar75 said:
BTW guys, following the OP IDEA i got my own custom rom working with the odexed stock Browser (i.e. HW accellerated).
Basically all the apps have been deodexed apart Browser, and i left the framework jar files odexed!
Basically i got the same features/mod as before, the only think i have to renounce is the overscroll glow effect (i don't like it at all, i prefer the stock Samsung bounce effect) and the extended power menu (we can easily replace it by using quickboot).
That's it
thanks _JKay_ for the IDEA!
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No problem! Actually my mod gives you the extended power menu
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But I do think the problems wont fix itself in the future. The SGS facing the same problems with XXJVQ!!
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I agree with you, but at least, since a lot of people complain about the stock browser, we can stay happy with it!
I reckon we need new tool for deodexing, smali backsmali are dated now...
Hi, At the moment i have a501 with a mod rom (taboonay 2.2) and my bootloader it is again 3.0.1 . I want to know if i will loose my old bootloader installing a mod rom like alexanderIII that it is based on 2.3.1.
thank you
fdadda said:
Hi, At the moment i have a501 with a mod rom (taboonay 2.2) and my bootloader it is again 3.0.1 . I want to know if i will loose my old bootloader installing a mod rom like alexanderIII that it is based on 2.3.1.
thank you
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No. Your bootloader should remain the same. You can flash away with all 3.2.x roms.
Just DON'T install a leaked ICS rom or you will get a new bootloader... The cooked ICS roms are OK, just not the leaks...
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No. Your bootloader should remain the same. You can flash away with all 3.2.x roms.
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Thank you very much Moscow .i want try you rom . At the moment i have taboonay 2.2 but i am afraid to do mistake installing your rom , and not to be able to come back to a stock rom like bougth it.
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Just DON'T install a leaked ICS rom or you will get a new bootloader... The cooked ICS roms are OK, just not the leaks...
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I couldn't install ics rom because i have a501 and if iinstall ics i loose 3g connection. I hope that in the future i will able to install ics rom with 3g support
fdadda said:
Thank you very much Moscow .i want try you rom . At the moment i have taboonay 2.2 but i am afraid to do mistake installing your rom , and not to be able to come back to a stock rom like bougth it.
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No problem. You can always go back to factory un-rooted just by installing a stock rom.in most cases anyhow. Let me know if you have any issues with the install.
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No problem. You can always go back to factory un-rooted just by installing a stock rom.in most cases anyhow. Let me know if you have any issues with the install.
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Thank you moscow for your help. I think to install and test your rom. At the moment i am in thor recovery . For first i must install your ra recovery 3.15 and then follow the rom instruction . Do you think that the battery could be better with your rom instead taboonay?
I must post here because i haven't reach 10 post for development section
fdadda said:
Thank you moscow for your help. I think to install and test your rom. At the moment i am in thor recovery . For first i must install your ra recovery 3.15 and then follow the rom instruction . Do you think that the battery could be better with your rom instead taboonay?
I must post here because i haven't reach 10 post for development section
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Well, you can always post over at androidtabletgeeks. We don't have such limits. It's just a new site is all.
As with battery power, here is what I know.
Your battery life, is pretty much controlled by the kernel that is being used. This is not considering apps, and running processes which also use battery. But more so by the kernels ability to overclock (OC), and at the same time, use undervoltage (UV). UV is where you save a lot of battery when only concerning the OS itself. This is purely kernel controlled.
The object, or holy grail, as I say, is to find the lowest amount of UV based on CPU speed. At least UV enough to where you still have stability on the tab. Find the lowest amount of power required.
Here-in lies the problem. You only have 4 different kernel Dev's to choose from. And guess what? They all own a500's. And because of this, most of the newer kernels work fine on an a500, but with the 501, we get what is called 3g freeze or sleep of death. Both requiring re-boots. Sometimes you may go for a day without getting it. But it will happen if you use your 3g often enough. Some people aren't familiar with this, and just ignore it sometimes thinking the rom or app is messed up.
As with good kernels to use, I can say this;
1. Stock kernel (GPL compliant)
2. RichardTrip's 3.4 villain+ (current in rom) (GPL compliant)
3. Drelisdee earlier version kernel (GPL compliant)
4. Thor2002ro current version (untested and non-GPL compliant)
As with battery power, well, I can't tell you if Taboonay 2.2 compares. I believe Vache uses a RichardTrip kernel, just not aware which one. You can always experiment with kernels, as long as you follow the correct procedures.
As in roms, one would hope the newest version of HC would require a little less power to function. Just watch for the 3g freeze, usually when in the browser.
Moscow Desire said:
Well, you can always post over at androidtabletgeeks. We don't have such limits. It's just a new site is all.
As with battery power, here is what I know.
Your battery life, is pretty much controlled by the kernel that is being used. This is not considering apps, and running processes which also use battery. But more so by the kernels ability to overclock (OC), and at the same time, use undervoltage (UV). UV is where you save a lot of battery when only concerning the OS itself. This is purely kernel controlled.
The object, or holy grail, as I say, is to find the lowest amount of UV based on CPU speed. At least UV enough to where you still have stability on the tab. Find the lowest amount of power required.
Here-in lies the problem. You only have 4 different kernel Dev's to choose from. And guess what? They all own a500's. And because of this, most of the newer kernels work fine on an a500, but with the 501, we get what is called 3g freeze or sleep of death. Both requiring re-boots. Sometimes you may go for a day without getting it. But it will happen if you use your 3g often enough. Some people aren't familiar with this, and just ignore it sometimes thinking the rom or app is messed up.
As with good kernels to use, I can say this;
1. Stock kernel (GPL compliant)
2. RichardTrip's 3.4 villain+ (current in rom) (GPL compliant)
3. Drelisdee earlier version kernel (GPL compliant)
4. Thor2002ro current version (untested and non-GPL compliant)
As with battery power, well, I can't tell you if Taboonay 2.2 compares. I believe Vache uses a RichardTrip kernel, just not aware which one. You can always experiment with kernels, as long as you follow the correct procedures.
As in roms, one would hope the newest version of HC would require a little less power to function. Just watch for the 3g freeze, usually when in the browser.
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Thank youv for your answer-
But if i use your rom like it is flashed , i haven't need to install other kernel ..
I am very pratic on galaxy s2 but not so much on a501. I am afraid todo mistake or wrong flash with the possibility of use a501 like
A paperweight.......
fdadda said:
Thank youv for your answer-
But if i use your rom like it is flashed , i haven't need to install other kernel ..
I am very pratic on galaxy s2 but not so much on a501. I am afraid todo mistake or wrong flash with the possibility of use a501 like
A paperweight.......
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Don't worry. Nobody has ever made a paperweight from my roms
Just make a recovery backup of your current system through RA Recovery. Typically this generally provides some safety. I've never known a recovery image to be bad when running HC 3.2.x. It happens on rare occasions.
Only lately on the ICS "betas" have I seen some corrupted stuff.
Moscow Desire said:
Don't worry. Nobody has ever made a paperweight from my roms
Just make a recovery backup of your current system through RA Recovery. Typically this generally provides some safety. I've never known a recovery image to be bad when running HC 3.2.x. It happens on rare occasions.
Only lately on the ICS "betas" have I seen some corrupted stuff.
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hi moscow , i have installed your rom now and it is very quickly. compliments.
i tried to install the apk of polaris office that was included in taboonay but when i open a doc file i have fc. also on stock rom i had fc with polaris. how can solve?
then i seen that is missing the dnla apk for wireless connection how can install.
fdadda said:
hi moscow , i have installed your rom now and it is very quickly. compliments.
i tried to install the apk of polaris office that was included in taboonay but when i open a doc file i have fc. also on stock rom i had fc with polaris. how can solve?
then i seen that is missing the dnla apk for wireless connection how can install.
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Thanks for the comments!!!
It is probably because you are missing the 2 library files that are necessary for polaris Office to run.
I am at work now and don't have access to my files, so do the following;
Search the threads here at XDA, as you should be able to find a polaris office zip somewhere in either the dev, general or q&a forum. I remember putting one up some time ago (non flashable).
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Download one of the Honeycomb 3.2.x roms that include polaris office, open the zip (do not extract it), then I belive in the lib folder, you will find the 2 polaris office lib files. They are easy to locate. Copy these into the same folder on your tablet. Then reboot and they should work.
As with DNLA apk, If you look near the bottom of my Rom post, you will see a link to a zip for the Acer System Apps. Unzip to your PC, and copy the apk you want, and also the Odex file. Copy to your tablets system/app folder, the reboot. Should work.
Moscow Desire said:
Thanks for the comments!!!
It is probably because you are missing the 2 library files that are necessary for polaris Office to run.
I am at work now and don't have access to my files, so do the following;
Search the threads here at XDA, as you should be able to find a polaris office zip somewhere in either the dev, general or q&a forum. I remember putting one up some time ago (non flashable).
or
Download one of the Honeycomb 3.2.x roms that include polaris office, open the zip (do not extract it), then I belive in the lib folder, you will find the 2 polaris office lib files. They are easy to locate. Copy these into the same folder on your tablet. Then reboot and they should work.
As with DNLA apk, If you look near the bottom of my Rom post, you will see a link to a zip for the Acer System Apps. Unzip to your PC, and copy the apk you want, and also the Odex file. Copy to your tablets system/app folder, the reboot. Should work.
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Thanks. Tor polaris office i have already solved yesterday Night, tor dnla i Will try tonight.
The only thing that gas a little pag is when i open the pdf file. Perhaps is because i haven't formatted the sdcard.
Usually when i flah a new rom with the galaxy s2 i formato also the internal ad. Here on iconia tab id i want clear all the internal sd card like when i bought it ' ho i fan do it?because i ha ve some directory or the other rom. Is there a formato tor the internal sdcard?
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fdadda said:
Thanks. Tor polaris office i have already solved yesterday Night, tor dnla i Will try tonight.
The only thing that gas a little pag is when i open the pdf file. Perhaps is because i haven't formatted the sdcard.
Usually when i flah a new rom with the galaxy s2 i formato also the internal ad. Here on iconia tab id i want clear all the internal sd card like when i bought it ' ho i fan do it?because i ha ve some directory or the other rom. Is there a formato tor the internal sdcard?
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Well, generally, I use my Win7 to format my Ext SD Card to FAT32. As with PDF files, I run Docs to Go full version, and haven't noticed any issues.
If you format your SD Card, make sure you copy the contents to your PC First. Personally, I have 2 extra SD cards that I use. Always nice to have an original