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Samsung Galaxy S2 over xperia aRc

Hi guys,
Currently m using aRc, can u help me to know the pros n cons of SGS2..
I am planning to buy one!!
Thanks in advance.
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SGS II has:
faster processors
A LOT BIGGER rom space (ROM space of arc is just unacceptably small)
more RAM
arguably better screen
thinner & lighter

I've had both but sold my Arc.
SGS2 is much faster and smoother in day to day use.
Lack of Ram seems to cripple Arc a little.
Camera is at least as good on SGS but video recorder is much better than Arc.
Codec support on music and videos ostensibly once again better on SGS2.
Screen quality is much more subjective - i actually thought the Arc screen was really good.
Arc has the better design although it feels a bit long and thin compared to the SGS2. The SGS2 feels like it has a much bigger screen?
Build quality wasn't great on my Arc - felt even more plasticky than the Samsung and the battery panel creaked all the time on the Arc. SGS2 feels much more sold.
Hope that helps
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gupta.anurag08 said:
Hi guys,
Currently m using aRc, can u help me to know the pros n cons of SGS2..
I am planning to buy one!!
Thanks in advance.
sent from Xperia Arc
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It's kind of amazing as to how can you buy say Arc,Desire S & all those single core superphones & than try to compare them with Atrix/Optimus 2x/SGS 2.
All these phones Arc/Desire S{single core is what i meant} are more than a very capable smartphones,can do most of the daily work.
But put them next to any of the dual cores & differences are there.
Why have you gone for Arc when SGS 2 launch was so near?

victorinoxs said:
SGS II has:
faster processors
A LOT BIGGER rom space (ROM space of arc is just unacceptably small)
more RAM
arguably better screen
thinner & lighter
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you are right except 1 point and that is the screen. The colors of the ARC is more realistic and the screen is the best screen for in direct sunlight. No other screen comes close to it.

android_master said:
It's kind of amazing as to how can you buy say Arc,Desire S & all those single core superphones & than try to compare them with Atrix/Optimus 2x/SGS 2.
All these phones Arc/Desire S{single core is what i meant} are more than a very capable smartphones,can do most of the daily work.
But put them next to any of the dual cores & differences are there.
Why have you gone for Arc when SGS 2 launch was so near?
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Dual core is not everything, before the SGS2 comes out. Those dual cores like the LG and Atrix does not prove to be faster. Actually the LG pretty sucks for a dual core phone. Single core phone is faster then the LG and that says alot.

More ram on S2, if you do a lot of browsing on the device like me, you will come to appreciate the extra ram, something that used to piss me right off about my S1!

hung77 said:
you are right except 1 point and that is the screen. The colors of the ARC is more realistic and the screen is the best screen for in direct sunlight. No other screen comes close to it.
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Sony Ericsson's Xperia Arc comes packing a dazzling 4.2-inch scratch-resistant LED-backlit LCD display, capable of excellent colour reproduction, which is hugely responsive. When you add to that mix Sony's Bravia Mobile engine you end up with a truly noteworthy screen, capable of rivalling, or even surpassing, virtually anything on the market – everything, that is, apart from the Samsung Galaxy S II.
The Galaxy S II brings the latest in a long line of amazing Samsung screens to market, in the form of a cutting-edge 4.3-inch Super AMOLED display, which not only renders colours faithfully, and offers unsurpassed sunlight legibility, but sucks up about 1/3 as much power as the LCD on the Xperia Arc.
Winner - Samsung Galaxy S II
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http://www.knowyourmobile.com/comparisons/771128/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_sony_ericsson_xperia_arc.html
In regards to the screen size, Galaxy S II offers a slightly bigger screen at 4.3 –inch compared to that of Xperia Arc (4.2-inch). Samsung Super AMOLED display provides excellent sunlight legibility and needs only 1/3 of the power amount used by Xperia’s LCD display.
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please dont compare the phones as they are not even in the same level.
Arc is more of an Galaxy 1 line. the difference is they have HDMI support.
hell the galaxy 1 has 2 cameras " at least for us in europe and asia "
the only 2 phones that are close to SGS2 but " dont beat " the SGS2 in terms of performance is the Atrix and Optimus 2x.

I had the Arc, don't have my Galaxy S2 yet, so I can't compare, so take my words with a grain of salt:
The Arc is a very nice looking phone, with a great screen, and it was running very smooth out of the box. But the ROM size was a joke, RAM could have been bigger for a high-end phone released in 2011, and the position of the headphone jack and the camera/lock keys were extremely annoying.
I love the design, but I don't like the form-over-function approach. Furthermore, I didn't find a single unit (not the two I had, not on any picture on the net), that didn't have a raised upper left corner of the screen, what was visible to me even when looking from the front.
It's by no means a bad phone, but the S2 offers much more on paper, and it's the price is only a little higher where I live.
I'll keep an eye on Sony's Dual-Core phones (they'll come sooner or later) though. And as far as I know, Sony even produces AMOLEDs, it would be nice if they'd use it for their phones.

You'll get dual core phones from Sony Ericsson when everyone else have started to produce quad core devices.

gupta.anurag08 said:
Hi guys,
Currently m using aRc, can u help me to know the pros n cons of SGS2..
I am planning to buy one!!
Thanks in advance.
sent from Xperia Arc
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I used both and sold S II. The main reasons I sold S II:
1. AMOLED colors are not for me. Looks too fake/retro.
2. Felt too wide. With screens over 4" it's already a pain to reach to the top of the screen. With the width, it's tough on thumb for my medium size hands.
3. Hated Samsung color selection on UI. Or, it could be I liked SE more classy interface.
4. Phone design has no style and looks like a copycat of iPhone.
Good things about SG II
1. In my two days of use SG II seems to perform buttery smooth while Arc starts to lag once you start to install some apps and widgets. Could be related to these apps.
2. Phone ugly and cheap but it atleast feels solid unlike Arc whose battery cover squeaks somewhere in the middle. I had to put a small folded tape in there to fill the gap inside to stop the squeaky feel. What's funny is most of the SE phones always had problems with battery covers :-(
3. Front camera + all the killer specs
Why I kept Arc?
1. Screen colors
2. Gorgeous style (Misty Silver) and phone feels more ergonomic in my hand
3. Almost everyone I showed pick Arc over Samsung. Of course, once I told the specs, SG II started to get selected.
4. I like SE UI. Dialer looks absolutely stunning compared to any other dialer I saw. I wish it had smart dialing feature.
You should seriously give S II a try if you think you can easily sell it. I was fortunate to make over $60 profit on it after using it for couple of days as it's not available easily to buy. If you are happy with the S II design and AMOLED colors, it's an easy choice to make. SE flunked big time with the specs on Arc. It almost feels like X10 came in a different package and Gingerbread.

Intratech said:
You'll get dual core phones from Sony Ericsson when everyone else have started to produce quad core devices.
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Or if they come up with specs similar to others, they will come out with old OS

kitsVA said:
I used both and sold S II. The main reasons I sold S II:
1. AMOLED colors are not for me. Looks too fake/retro.
2. Felt too wide. With screens over 4" it's already a pain to reach to the top of the screen. With the width, it's tough on thumb for my medium size hands.
3. Hated Samsung color selection on UI. Or, it could be I liked SE more classy interface.
4. Phone design has no style and looks like a copycat of iPhone.
Good things about SG II
1. In my two days of use SG II seems to perform buttery smooth while Arc starts to lag once you start to install some apps and widgets. Could be related to these apps.
2. Phone ugly and cheap but it atleast feels solid unlike Arc whose battery cover squeaks somewhere in the middle. I had to put a small folded tape in there to fill the gap inside to stop the squeaky feel. What's funny is most of the SE phones always had problems with battery covers :-(
3. Front camera + all the killer specs
Why I kept Arc?
1. Screen colors
2. Gorgeous style (Misty Silver) and phone feels more ergonomic in my hand
3. Almost everyone I showed pick Arc over Samsung. Of course, once I told the specs, SG II started to get selected.
4. I like SE UI. Dialer looks absolutely stunning compared to any other dialer I saw. I wish it had smart dialing feature.
You should seriously give S II a try if you think you can easily sell it. I was fortunate to make over $60 profit on it after using it for couple of days as it's not available easily to buy. If you are happy with the S II design and AMOLED colors, it's an easy choice to make. SE flunked big time with the specs on Arc. It almost feels like X10 came in a different package and Gingerbread.
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to each has his own. as hardware design. i like the Arc. and so i did like the xperia. sony has a style in everything they do. thats sony. their user interface is always sleek and high class. i dare to put them in the same level as apple if not higher.
but thats as far as it goes. everything else fall apart. specs wise. the arc is really old generarion. its same level as galaxy 1. and we passed that since the beginning of new year when dual core started showing up . there is no excuse to what sony is doing. they are 6 months late at LEAST in terms of technology. they are not keeping up with other companies.
HTC dual core within this month or next.
LG already out with new core. first in the market
Motorolla since Feb .
Samsung since May with 1.2 dual core.
Apple with Ipad 2.
what are they exactly waiting for. i am not going to get fooled again and buy a device based on its look like how i did with the xperia x10. one is enough. as long as they dont keep up. iam not going to bother.
also. 4.27 is big when 4 is ok ? its .27, its pretty much nothing. plus the phone is super slim. so that makes it up.
and you dont like the colors of SG2 when everyone praised it ? hell ok. even if you didnt. you could have picked the option " Movie " in the backlight option and you would get narutal colors.
again. i am not judgnig you. i just find it odd that you sell the best phone in the market and keeping and old tech one. unless there is another reason like money etc.

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and you dont like the colors of SG2 when everyone praised it ? hell ok. even if you didnt. you could have picked the option " Movie " in the backlight option and you would get narutal colors.
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That's the mode I used mostly as the colors look way too over saturated in the other two modes. But, like you said, "to each his own". I guess that is why there are so many phones. I happen to prefer Arc screen, style, and UI more than GSII.

All, thanks for ur comments..
To be very frank I never like samsumg phones. I knew that SG2 is just around the corner but still I gonne for aRc..
Arc has got class, it has best UI (other phones UI almost looks same n ugly)
I am Ok with single core atleast for a year, the only annoying thing is INTERNAL MEMORY...
I just wanted to buy one more phone, and from all comments recieved so far, i think I can give a try to SG2
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gupta.anurag08 said:
All, thanks for ur comments..
To be very frank I never like samsumg phones. I knew that SG2 is just around the corner but still I gonne for aRc..
Arc has got class, it has best UI (other phones UI almost looks same n ugly)
I am Ok with single core atleast for a year, the only annoying thing is INTERNAL MEMORY...
I just wanted to buy one more phone, and from all comments recieved so far, i think I can give a try to SG2
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Update us in Arc forum after you try SG2. I see SG2 as a Vegas Buffet. Arc as a fine dinner .

All, thanks for ur comments..
To be very frank I never like samsumg phones. I knew that SG2 is just around the corner but still I gonne for aRc..
Arc has got class, it has best UI (other phones UI almost looks same n ugly)
I am Ok with single core atleast for a year, the only annoying thing is INTERNAL MEMORY...
I just wanted to buy one more phone, and from all comments recieved so far, i think I can give a try to SG2
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Update us in Arc forum after you try SG2. I see SG2 as a Vegas Buffet. Arc as a fine dinner .
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Haha, sure..thats y I started this thread in SG2 forum to have an unbiased opinion
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Can't believe nobody's mentioned it here, but I originally chose the Arc for the camera and design. Come to find out the camera was a lot of hype and the design was pretty much ruined by the fact that it felt plasticky and I constantly had to clean it from finger prints.
Finally got fed up when the creaking back component showed up on mine. But the fingerprint issue is just awful on the Arc. Can't speak for the SGSII as I haven't got mine yet, but I returned the Arc within a week.

Quist said:
Can't believe nobody's mentioned it here, but I originally chose the Arc for the camera and design. Come to find out the camera was a lot of hype and the design was pretty much ruined by the fact that it felt plasticky and I constantly had to clean it from finger prints.
Finally got fed up when the creaking back component showed up on mine. But the fingerprint issue is just awful on the Arc. Can't speak for the SGSII as I haven't got mine yet, but I returned the Arc within a week.
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I was not going to bring up the creaking and weird way it felt in the hands just so that we can come back and read the complaints when people buy it. I don't or did own an Arc but one of my friends did, went through 3 of them in fact. They all creaked and the battery cover was weird so he eventually give up and got a refund.

Finally the Arc is gone

After almost a year of ownership I've decided to upgrade the Arc to the only other phone with a form factor and feel I like, the HTC one S.
I really wanted to love my Arc (lt15) but I was constantly battling with lag, battery life, and storage space etc. Trying new rom after new rom helped fix this to some degree but it was never perfect.
The One S is slim, has an awesome finish, a beautiful screen and camera and I'm sitting here 16 hours later with 50% battery left.
So, thank you to the Arc for being a great phone but onwards and upwards to the One S.
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there not bad but so flimsy the missis had hers for less than 2 days she dropped it while knelt down from her trouser pocket and the outer screen shattered bare in mind the missus is only 5"5 so knelt down the fone only fell like a foot at the most althow its never a good idea to drop ur fone at least with the arcs sturdyness it would have take that fall a hundred times over and laughed back

Do you like Sense, or do you think the Xperia UXP was better?

and besides isnt the htc running 4.0.3 that would be a step down software wise wouldnt it =)

I actually like Sense a lot more than the Sony UI, HTC have really done the new implementation well but as with everything, if you don't like it you can just remove it, in my case i've kept it.
As for sturdiness, well I am prone to dropping my phone and the Arc took quite a beating, lets home my One S doesn't suffer if/when I drop it.

well best of luck to u m8 my partners screen didnt, only guna cost like £40 to repair it but still alot for a 2 day old fone oh and fyi hers was the htc one X sorry not the S

I'm also thinking about upgrading to the One S. Are you content with the upgrade? Personally I'd have to pay 200$ for the upgrade - do you think that it's worth it? Is it anything that you miss about the arc having your One S for a few days now?

Xperia S it better option as compare to One S
i read all the specs of one S
it has only 16 GB internal memory with no memory card slot 8 MP camera and no HDMI port , also the 256 ppi pixel density
Xperia S is better then this specs

zohaib0001 said:
i read all the specs of one S
it has only 16 GB internal memory with no memory card slot 8 MP camera and no HDMI port , also the 256 ppi pixel density
Xperia S is better then this specs
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And then you miss out the serious specs like the 'Xperia S' running an older Qualcomm S3 where as the One S has the S4 chip set...Makes a large difference.

LegibleEel said:
And then you miss out the serious specs like the 'Xperia S' running an older Qualcomm S3 where as the One S has the S4 chip set...Makes a large difference.
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Other countries' HTC One S is sporting the Qualcomm S3 dual core SoC.
Taiwan is one for example, it is clocked at 1.7GHz.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-one-s-launched-in-taiwan-with-snapdragon-s3-01231207/
So Xperia S is at advantage when compared to the HTC One S S3 variant, with higher ppi and slightly larger screen to name a few.

The problem with One S is the pentile matrix on a relatively low ppi screen and the camera which using gsmarena compare picture quality tool seems to be worse than the one on the Arc. Those are the only 2 reasons why I'm still not upgrading. I don't know about real life performance difference too, I'd like the person who switched to compare, because I'm curious.
On one hand in benchmarks the S4 is a king of mobile processors at the moment offering like a dozen times faster float point processing but is it really that noticeable? Arc is relatively smooth in all it does. And that appears to be the biggest difference between those 2 phones, except of the price. I'm not sure if it's worth the price difference.

One S with Dual core Krait processor is the beast of the phones! Even beats the quad one x. Tegra 3 is just good for games only. Krait outshines tegra3 in the rest!!!

I played with an Xperia P today and it's beautiful. I actually prefer it over the Xperia S. I might have to sell my arc S and get one.
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I played with an Xperia P today and it's beautiful. I actually prefer it over the Xperia S. I might have to sell my arc S and get one.
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Im with u buddy...but im gonna wait till august... =)
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I actually just ordered the SG Note i717. I was going to go with the One s, but i didn't like how it doesn't have an external car slot. I like the idea of having all that memory on your phone, but wtf, we can't have an external card too. ppfffft that. So I decided on the note. The big ass screen will help with everything I have to do online for school, plus it can take a microsd so I'm happy, just waiting for it to get here is the dragger. I know it still has the S3 processor but the only difference noticebly is heavy heavy use or camera snap time between them, of course the S4 is faster. The next one will be as well and so on so forth. On the other hand I still can't complain about my Arc S. It's has been quite the champ after all said n done now I get like 24-50 hours battery life, just accessing my school online with zooming n unzooming all the time is annoying as hell. I might sell my arc s or just use it to, how did my roommate put it, "technologically rape" it.

Z2 Compact

Seriously???!!!!!
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/sony-xperia-z2-compact-already-on-the-way--1239773
C;mon Sony.. let me enjoy my phone for a bit longer!!!!

More RAM and better camera and faster processor if it follows the z2.... life time of z1 = 3 to 6 months??? :S

emilic said:
More RAM and better camera and faster processor if it follows the z2.... life time of z1 = 3 to 6 months??? :S
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almost identical processor... almost identical camera... i dont see the point for upgrading.
DAC Audio is cool indeed, timeshift too... 4k is not a big deal for me.

No matter what you do... you will always be 4-6 months from what manufacturers and the carriers would have you believe is 'obsolescence'. Much like the megapixel race (which is laughable), and 4G -eewhisyouneedthis, most of it is the marketing team and peers making you think you need it. I spent tons of graphics cards for my PC's before I finally realized the chase never ends, and that I should research and settle on something for more than 8 months.
I won't be chasing that rabbit...

profyler said:
almost identical processor... almost identical camera... i dont see the point for upgrading.
DAC Audio is cool indeed, timeshift too... 4k is not a big deal for me.
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I agree, I just wonder about the 3gb ram... that is the most interesting feature for me...
But once again I just hope this news will bring the z1 compact price down and I will get mine
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Sony would be a lot more profitable if they didn't insist on flooding the market with numerous but similar spec variations of essentially the same device. I'm gutted that they've brought the Vaio to an end and would be sad to see the Xperia go down the same track.

I think sony do the big profit in the first 2 month ish... after 2-3 month the phone profit goes down to a not as big one and of course Sony cares only of the big profit. So I can see why thy to what they do... more when u take into account all the other phone makers that are putting out their devices at different times. Good way for Sony to compete against the others.
Just wonder about quality control and development costs...

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Just wonder about quality control and development costs...
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That's what I'm referring to, they would be better off with 3 or 4 models every year, compact, budget, mid range and high end.

emilic said:
I think sony do the big profit in the first 2 month ish... after 2-3 month the phone profit goes down to a not as big one and of course Sony cares only of the big profit. So I can see why thy to what they do... more when u take into account all the other phone makers that are putting out their devices at different times. Good way for Sony to compete against the others.
Just wonder about quality control and development costs...
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Actually.... No. =)
I can agree, if we are talking about Z2 (which has to compete with the new Samsung S5, HTC New One and etc), but it's different with Z1c. Z1 Compact is one-of-the-kind. It has literally no competitors in it's High-End-Portable niche on the market. So, IMO, it's kinda counter-productive to dish out another Compact in such a short period of time since Z1c release. :\

While I won't buy the Z2 compact (and maybe even skip the Z3 compact), I just hope they keep the size the same as z1 compact. I want a small phone, not a smaller phone (which will grow in size if flagships increase in size). I once said to my friend, it's ironic when the so called "minis" (and compact) is so much larger than my non "mini" phone (was using, xperia ray, I guess that made my ray "micro" ) and about the same size as xperia s/galaxy s2 which is a "normal" sized phone
ps: I know that mini actually means smaller version and not small in manufacturer definition. I just dislike the trend.

Well let's just note that the news of the FCC are not necessarily for the z2 compact but for the Sony z2 2f or Japanese version of the z2 compact... so time wise we should add two to three months more for the z2c starting from the release date of the Japanese version.

How is 4.5" compact? The Z1 Compact is already not compact at all because of the bezel. I said they should make the phone smaller not bigger, but apparently Sony don't understand.

Well they could easily fit a 4.5 inch screen and make the bezels smaller.
I fully expect a Z2 compact come the end of the year, but not in a few months.

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How is 4.5" compact? The Z1 Compact is already not compact at all because of the bezel. I said they should make the phone smaller not bigger, but apparently Sony don't understand.
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Completely agree. While I think the Z1 Compact is great, if anything I would prefer it to be slightly smaller - maybe a 4.1" or 4.2" (at most) screen with reduced bezel/hard capacitive buttons would be perfect. If Z2 'Compact' has a 4.5" screen then I certainly wouldn't be interested in upgrading.

if you read sony forums everyone is begging for a bigger display/phone. I'd almost think these guys are fake competitor accounts, since it makes no sense. the regular Z2 is great for a larger display. It's not like you need 5.2, 5.1, 5.0, 4.9, ... displays
4.2/no bezels would be cool (also, its probably never going to happen...)

I think the main concern seems to be the bezel. Looking at something like the Moto X its clear the screen could be 4.5 or even 4.7 while maintaining a similar size without those massive bezels.
Personally I'd like to see 4.3 with little bezel or 4.5 with little bezel. Even 4.7 is possible if they minimize bezel ala LG G2. I've actually got a Note 2 so I'm sure the size will be much more managable regardless of bezel or not though! Just sort of feels like wasted space though.

Keep in mind that z1 compact has the largest battery in this size and is waterproof ontop of it. Choosing between small bezel or big battery + waterproof id go with the latter everytime...
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The z1c already is too big, I had a moto RAZR I before that, that was a nice form factor (not that I want it back, but this part of it, they did very well).
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That does put a damper on our relationship.

Best camera, screen, battery life and great performance, all in a compact waterproof dustproof package, can't be BEAT.

I still intend to keep my Z1 Compact for at least a year. So... I guess I'll be getting the Z3 Compact then?
I hope the screen stays at 4.3 inch. I still want a nice ppi.

Upgrading Z to Z2

Hey, i am wondering if it would worth it to upgrade my XZ to Z2
I dont really mind about specs overall, only battery life improvement does matter.
The other thing which i would be afraid, its size of Z2, its sightly bigger than Z
I remember i have compared my XZ to a Note 2 from friend and size difference was not that huge despite of 5''5 Note 2 screen size.
Yes indeed size difference between Z and Z2 would be ridiculously thigh
But i dont want to follow the race of ''most biggest smartphone each year''
2013, 5 was standard
2014, 5''2
2015 like mostly 5''5 (LG already made it for G3)
I hope further Xperia model would have reasonable size (around 5 would be perfect if they can reduce bezels, they might actually put 5 on 4''5)
cheers,

i did it, and i have to say. battery life is awesome!
The Size difference from Z2 to Z is not that big, you don't realy feel it in the pants.

monsieur_debile said:
Hey, i am wondering if it would worth it to upgrade my XZ to Z2
I dont really mind about specs overall, only battery life improvement does matter.
The other thing which i would be afraid, its size of Z2, its sightly bigger than Z
I remember i have compared my XZ to a Note 2 from friend and size difference was not that huge despite of 5''5 Note 2 screen size.
Yes indeed size difference between Z and Z2 would be ridiculously thigh
But i dont want to follow the race of ''most biggest smartphone each year''
2013, 5 was standard
2014, 5''2
2015 like mostly 5''5 (LG already made it for G3)
I hope further Xperia model would have reasonable size (around 5 would be perfect if they can reduce bezels, they might actually put 5 on 4''5)
cheers,
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I used to use Note 2 then XZ then Z2.
For the battery life, my daily normal usage on Xperia Z would leave battery at red level (less than 14%) at the end of the day. However, on Z2, I always have more than 50% at the end of the day with the same usage.
For the size, of course Z2 is bigger but its not that significant since Z2 maintains its waistline at 8.2 mm while XZ is 7.9. However when compared to Note 2, I think its, not a lot but also not a bit, quite more handy.
The only thing I see that XZ is better than Z2 (excluding minor bugs that would be solved later) is that when you are babling on Z2, it would not pick any of your words at all. One you are talking to will think your are being silence.

I owned the original Xperia Z and at the time it broke into many new areas of technology. I found the phone to be superb. A family member now has it. The Z was heavily criticised for 'viewing angles'. I NEVER understood that? WHO looks at their phone from a 45degree angle? Never mind.
From memory I think the battery life on the Z may last longer than on the Z2? Don't shoot me, I don't know. I have only owned the Z2 for nearly a week. Size wise the Z2 is larger BUT not significantly. Both are very well made and function well. Both have their little foibles but then so do we owners. The specification of the Z2 leaves the original Z dead in the water in nearly every aspect.
As I so often write here, no one can choose a mobile for you. The right mobile for you is the mobile that fulfils your daily requirements. Massive choice now with several different UI and OS not to mention construction materials and size etc.
I hope what ever your purchase will be the mobile for you. Good luck. :highfive:
Ryland

Hi ! I had Xperia Z like you. I bought Xperia Z2 this week. I had same questions on my mind like you. A bit bigger size of Z2 worried me too. But I can say that it's tolerable. My hand quickly adapted to it. Battery is significantly better when compared to my old Z. I think i can use it without charging for two days I had to charge my old Z once a day. And screen and camera is significantly better. I advise you to give a chance to new Xperia Z2.

Like most have reported in this thread, I also had the Z. I've passed it on to a niece and now have the Z2. Why, because I wanted it. I did rationalize it as a pre-birthday present tho...
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guhvanoh said:
Like most have reported in this thread, I also had the Z. I've passed it on to a niece and now have the Z2. Why, because I wanted it. I did rationalize it as a pre-birthday present tho...
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"A pre-birthday present"!? I like that, I shall borrow that line. :highfive:
Ryland :laugh:

i didn't think about switching from Z to Z2 too cause to me they both seem a bit similar, but my carrier contract was ended and they contact me saying if id like to get a new cellphone, so i got it and it was awesome. the size is a bit bigger and the battery performance is like 200% better
its a great switch, i recommend that you get it

I think the difference in size is noticeable, personally. I really like the size of the Z better.
The screen, battery life, camera, and hardware camera shutter button are big improvements for the Z2
I don't think the Z2 feels any faster for normal use so the spec bumps in hardware don't make as much of a difference. I don't game on it at all.
The power button is not as large or positive-feeling on the Z2. Not a show stopper, but noticeable.
I don't like the KK firmware with the Home button takeover and the two-tabbed notification page. I preferred the older JB interface. It seems like the KK interface in general is much less dense - less information in a larger space for all elements. I don't see the point in that - there is a 5.2 in screen and you leave it mostly as empty space?
If I had a Z I wouldn't pay full price for the Z2 - I would at least wait for the next one. If it's cheap on contract and you sell off the Z, I'd say go for it.

Btw, I prefered the volume buttons on the Z, they're just strange on the Z2!

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Btw, I prefered the volume buttons on the Z, they're just strange on the Z2!
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I agree on this. Out of the Z, Z1 or Z2, I prefer the Z's volume rockers.

Just got my z2 yesterday as I can tell better screen, sound, picture quality and battery life than my beloved z. But I like z's design than z2 cause of the size, ratio and color matches. But its time to let go bye bye z.
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Thinking of buying Z3

Hi I have the Z2 tablet and love it, have a samsung s3 and... Meh
Im thinking of buying then z3 but it seems by looking through the threads on this forum that people are having issues. A big thing for me is music, so I figure thats one plus for the Z3 ( correct me if im wrong) , I figure the battery life then as an added extra as if im using the phone for music, I use google play music, so im assuming ( which I wouldnt be surprised from sony) that music quality ( through headphones) is the same in the walkman app as it would be through the play music app.
Should I just suck up the s3 for another while and wait for Z4 ( don't want to create a big argument - I noticed that tends to happen here )
Thanks for you help
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A big thing for me is music
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I only had my phone for a couple of days but I can confirm that the audio sounded excellent. I'm not an audiophile - a casual listener with Bose headphones - I listened to classical (Erik Satie), pop (Rihanna), and rock (Duologue) and they all sounded better than on my iPhone 5. I couldn't discern a difference between the Walkman app and the Google app.
I don't know if this is your thread but perhaps the audiophiles can better answer your question:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/737108/sony-xperia-z3-audio-quality
I will not mention anything on the battery life or camera. Plenty of posts for you to see.

Just get it, you won't be disappointed.
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I had a S3 a coupe years ago so I know the Z3 will be a huge upgrade. Camera, speed, build quality, external speakers, etc. I'd be very surprised if you don't like the Z3 over the S3.
As far as people complaining in threads. No phone is perfect. You may or may not get a defective phone. It's just luck. If you happen to be unlucky just exchange it.

I went from my Galaxy S3 to my Z3v (Verizon variant since I've been with them) and I don't regret a thing. I've been waiting for the Xperia to re-land on Verizon and besides missing root (until it happens), it's everything great.
Audio is also great on my end since they use the same tech as the Z3 anyway.
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meteor999 said:
Hi I have the Z2 tablet and love it, have a samsung s3 and... Meh
Im thinking of buying then z3 but it seems by looking through the threads on this forum that people are having issues. A big thing for me is music, so I figure thats one plus for the Z3 ( correct me if im wrong) , I figure the battery life then as an added extra as if im using the phone for music, I use google play music, so im assuming ( which I wouldnt be surprised from sony) that music quality ( through headphones) is the same in the walkman app as it would be through the play music app.
Should I just suck up the s3 for another while and wait for Z4 ( don't want to create a big argument - I noticed that tends to happen here )
Thanks for you help
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I love the Z3, I had to buy a phone as I switched carriers so I could not keep my LG G2 (traded for credit), otherwise I would have waited for the Z4/M9/G4. You cannot go wrong with the Z3 its the best device of the year, but the Z4 will be a much bigger change with S810 64bit cpu, better camera module etc. That is if you can wait till Feb/Mar.

Thanks all, im going to flash lollipod on the s3, and see how far it gets me. I will prob wait until the z4, although the z3 is good, I think 64bit may be a real game changer for graphics. The only worry I would have with the z4 is battery life if it has the supposed octa core processor.

Technically even though S810 is octa core it transitions between the low power and high power cpu's based on usage requirements, it will never use more than 4 cores. (4 High Power / 4 Low Power)

I went from a Galaxy S3 to the Z3 as well and what can I say? Apparently, cell phones have evolved quite a bit in a couple of years?! My Z3 is pure awesomeness, I haven't had a single problem with it so far. No crashes, no hardware failure, no scratchmarks etc. I'ts actually perfect so far, after two months of use.

If you wait for the Z4, then beware that Sony may release the z5 shortly after by another 6 months. So waiting will always produce a better model round the corner, and then you will have to choose between the htc m9, the s6, g4 etc. Unless Sony's changed their cycle strategy. The Z4 will have a newer more powerful processor but bear in mind that the Z4 is rumored to bring a QFHD display and some OEM's weren't able to push that many pixels efficiently like the G3. Also, Sony is good at battery life but they themselves are quoted to say that the higher number of pixels can affect battery life.
In short, I am most impressed with the Z3 and VERY satisfied with its performance. I've not been happier since the old Galaxy S2. The Z3 has a very bright display when it needs to be and very dark display when in the dark, excellent loudspeakers just short of Boomsound quality, SUPERB physical design/profile and premium feel, waterproof, brilliant battery life. The Z3 really is the best phone of 2014. The camera is very good but could be improved. Sony have improved the Z2 camera via FW updates so it's still early days for the Z3. I'm a former OG HTC Desire owner, a Galaxy S1 owner, an S2 as well, then the HTC One X, then the Nexus 4, then the LG G2 and now the Z3. I thoroughly recommend the Z3. Audio via headphones is VERY good, as good as my partner's iP6+ albeit a hair quieter but loud enough.

I think its worth the wait the S810 is an ARMv8 architecture which is major change and bigger jump.

From a developer/programmers perspective, I think it sounds exciting with a new CPU architecture. Although as a user I doubt you will notice much difference in anything but the most demanding apps. The Z3 is already as snappy as anything! Also, as subhani mentioned, a lower pixel count will consume less power. Full HD on that screen is enough to not distinguish individual pixels without a magnifying glass.

Had the phone for a week , and so far .... Its as fast grease lightning !! I have a Sony smart TV and so its a perfect couple ! Can send what ever to the screen ! Been playing games on the TV ,no lag ,who needs a games console ! And the battery I've charged it twice .... Wifi on all the time so far so good !!

I love my z3! Best android phone ive had yet. Previous was lg g2, htc m8, galaxy s5, iphone 6, z3 is best all around imo.

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I love my z3! Best android phone ive had yet. Previous was lg g2, htc m8, galaxy s5, iphone 6, z3 is best all around imo.
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Same here but also had the LG G3 (great except for battery life) ,the Z3 is a great phone.

I just upgrade my Z2 to a Z3.. and the z3 is just awesome.. is so beautiful and slim.. feels great in hands, and yeah, sounds better with headphone or speakers (I have the Sony NC headphone and a Creative Headset both sound great with the z3) and the battery life is the same or even better than the z2 (1,5 to 2,5 days of use).. The only problem I have is no root yet (with Locked Bootloader).. So, yeah.. buy it! is pretty much the perfect phone right now.. (for me at least :good

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From a developer/programmers perspective, I think it sounds exciting with a new CPU architecture. Although as a user I doubt you will notice much difference in anything but the most demanding apps. The Z3 is already as snappy as anything! Also, as subhani mentioned, a lower pixel count will consume less power. Full HD on that screen is enough to not distinguish individual pixels without a magnifying glass.
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Unlike going from a Z/Z1 to a Z3, (which use "similar" SOCs) the Z4s Cortex A57 (ARMv8) will be ~40% faster and the Adreno 430 GPU will be much more powerful, and there are improvements in power efficiency. All that adds up to a lot.

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Unlike going from a Z/Z1 to a Z3, (which use "similar" SOCs) the Z4s Cortex A57 (ARMv8) will be ~40% faster and the Adreno 420 GPU will be much more powerful, and there are improvements in power efficiency. All that adds up to a lot.
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No doubt! My point was just that choosing between really fast (Z3) and super fast (Z4) is probably not something that many people will notice when doing regular day to day tasks. But if they manage to provide all that computing power and keep the power consumption at a similar level, that's impressive! If I hadn't bought a Z3 already, I'd probably wait for the Z4. But I'm a programmer and maybe not a representative user
What's the Adreno 420 like compared to the 330? I'm planning on doing some OpenCL projects, so quite curious what I'm going to miss

Adreno 430 sorry, the 420 is in the Nexus 6. They are more than doubling the ALUs from 128 (A330) to 288 (A430), also based on 20nm vs 28nm. They are finally adding H265 encode and 2x32 Bit LPDDR4 at 1600MHz.