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I'm from the UK and have the UK version of the Note. It seems that pretty much everywhere else on the planet are getting firmware updates and we are not. Since the release of the Note, I've read of other countries getting updates yet there has only been one here since release. I'm currently KK5 (or it could be KKA, not sure which number)
I'm just wondering why others get updates as we don't.
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different countries always get differne updates, every company works that way with regards to android updates
You have the latest update for our country if you're on kka if u feel like ur missing out you could always grab a stock rom and flash that.. latest is LA6 or try out one of the custom roms available
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Time to bite the bullet! I was wondering when we'd get an official update too, as I didn't want to go down the same road as I did with the HD2 and flash a new rom every other day trying to find a good one. So I rooted the stock rom (same as yours), flashed the Samsung LA6 rom over it, then flashed the Abyss kernal. Much better now! Probably won't flash a new rom now until ICS is officially out.
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Time to bite the bullet! I was wondering when we'd get an official update too, as I didn't want to go down the same road as I did with the HD2 and flash a new rom every other day trying to find a good one. So I rooted the stock rom (same as yours), flashed the Samsung LA6 rom over it, then flashed the Abyss kernal. Much better now! Probably won't flash a new rom now until ICS is officially out.
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I'm with you on that.
I have the abyss kernel with KKA. Do you find much improvement with LA6? I have read about a few issues.
Anybody eles still not got the ICS update in UK getting to be a bit of a joke this now
why is it a joke, the update will come. I'm just wondering if people who buy android do not release that the updates roll out in batches and can take time before they get it.
Yea, they can't feasiabally roll out the update to everyone at the same time, it'd overload their update servers.
You'll get it, probabally within a week, just be patient.
Still no update for me in UK, been trying for about 2 weeks, lost the poor signal problem, and back to uptodate message, must admit it would be nice if Acer was forthcoming with a bit of information.
The rollout started on the 27th april 24th for others no support what so ever from acer in the uk no infomation has to why some users in the uk have not got it thats why its a JOKE and yes i do no it is in order it goes by the devices serial number and i started this thread to get replys from people in the uk who havent got the update so i would no if anybody eles was still waiting not from people to tell me to be patient and that i do not no how acer roll's out there updates thankyou very much
I'm in the UK, on stock 3.2,never rooted and never flashed custom ROMs and still haven't received the ICS even after installing the Enhancement app. Sent Acer UK an email and one of the solutions suggested by the rep was to reset the device to factory settings which I refused to go ahead with. It took me a long time to get the home screens the way I wanted them and apps installed. So,for someone to suggest factory reset is out of the question. I'd rather stay on Honeycomb till Windows 8 devices starts showing up,meaning no more android tablets for me. This is my 2nd Tablet and I've been absolutely disappointed.
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nasimdejai said:
I'm in the UK, on stock 3.2,never rooted and never flashed custom ROMs and still haven't received the ICS even after installing the Enhancement app. Sent Acer UK an email and one of the solutions suggested by the rep was to reset the device to factory settings which I refused to go ahead with. It took me a long time to get the home screens the way I wanted them and apps installed. So,for someone to suggest factory reset is out of the question. I'd rather stay on Honeycomb till Windows 8 devices starts showing up,meaning no more android tablets for me. This is my 2nd Tablet and I've been absolutely disappointed.
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So you ***** about not getting the upgrade but refuse to do what was suggested by the manufacturer to facilitate the upgrade? And it's Acer's fault?
If you want ICS that badly then dl one of the many stock ICS roms and do it manually. No need to root either.
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CyaN1de said:
So you ***** about not getting the upgrade but refuse to do what was suggested by the manufacturer to facilitate the upgrade? And it's Acer's fault?
If you want ICS that badly then dl one of the many stock ICS roms and do it manually. No need to root either.
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In all fairness we shouldn't have to factory reset are device and reinstall all the apps and get are home screens back how we had them just to receive a update from Acer in most cases anyway it does not work it didn't for me i did a factory reset, it sorted my issue out with the market not upgrading to play store but that was it still no ICS so factory reset doesn't always work that is just Acers answer to a lot of problems when the customer rings or emails regardless of the fault 9 times out of 10 this does solve the issue but i don't see the relevance to doing a factory reset so we can download the update from acers servers the problem is acers fault not the customer and not the device so i would ***** aswell if i was told to reset and reinstall all my data with no 100% guarantee that it would update to the ICS the stock ics roms are they fully working or is there still issues with the orientation and wifi ? CyaN1de are you running one of these stock roms or are you running ota thanks
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In all fairness we shouldn't have to factory reset are device and reinstall all the apps and get are home screens back how we had them just to receive a update from Acer in most cases anyway it does not work it didn't for me i did a factory reset, it sorted my issue out with the market not upgrading to play store but that was it still no ICS so factory reset doesn't always work that is just Acers answer to a lot of problems when the customer rings or emails regardless of the fault 9 times out of 10 this does solve the issue but i don't see the relevance to doing a factory reset so we can download the update from acers servers the problem is acers fault not the customer and not the device so i would ***** aswell if i was told to reset and reinstall all my data with no 100% guarantee that it would update to the ICS the stock ics roms are they fully working or is there still issues with the orientation and wifi ? CyaN1de are you running one of these stock roms or are you running ota thanks
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Thanks for that response. Some ppl do not understand that not everyone is technically gifted in terms of installing custom ROMs or tweaking software on devices. One has to be very patient by following instructions to the letter and still, some end up bricking their devices.
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crazymanc said:
CyaN1de are you running one of these stock roms or are you running ota thanks
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I agree that a full reset should not be required, but complaining your unit is not getting OTA then not even trying what was suggested and blaming someone else is just silly. Now if the reset did not work THEN I would be complaining non-stop to whoever would listen.
I run OTA on wifes A500 and custom Flexreaper (atm) on my A500 (had Icylicious on previously).
Put custom on mine the day I got it as I didn't want to wait for OTA because I'm an impatient SOB.
The 1.031 leaked rom on here is the same rom my wifes tab was updated to OTA. So simply extracting the update.zip to sd card and flashing via power+vol button is the same as getting it OTA from Acer.
1. Download zip from http://vache-android.com/v1/download.php?fileID=151
2. Unzip and extract update.zip from archive
3. Transfer update.zip to root of your micro sd card
4. Power up tablet holding power + vol (closest to power button) until you see something like "booting recovery kernal image" in upper left
5. Tablet will update to ICS and reboot.
All your apps and settings will remain as is.
nasimdejai said:
Thanks for that response. Some ppl do not understand that not everyone is technically gifted in terms of installing custom ROMs or tweaking software on devices. One has to be very patient by following instructions to the letter and still, some end up bricking their devices.
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Believe me, I am certainly not "technically gifted" in any way, shape or form. LOL
It simply comes down to following instructions (sometimes having to read them 3 or 4 times as not everyone's first language is English) written by the developers.
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crazymanc said:
In all fairness we shouldn't have to factory reset are device and reinstall all the apps and get are home screens back how we had them just to receive a update from Acer in most cases anyway it does not work it didn't for me i did a factory reset, it sorted my issue out with the market not upgrading to play store but that was it still no ICS so factory reset doesn't always work that is just Acers answer to a lot of problems when the customer rings or emails regardless of the fault 9 times out of 10 this does solve the issue but i don't see the relevance to doing a factory reset so we can download the update from acers servers the problem is acers fault not the customer and not the device so i would ***** aswell if i was told to reset and reinstall all my data with no 100% guarantee that it would update to the ICS the stock ics roms are they fully working or is there still issues with the orientation and wifi ? CyaN1de are you running one of these stock roms or are you running ota thanks
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Your post would read a lot easier with sentence structure and punctuation.
Thanks.
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1. Download zip from http://vache-android.com
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...LES bye bye ya **** and have a nice day:cool:
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crazymanc said:
. . . . . And what makes you think i give a **** what you think of my punctuation and grammer cant read it dont read it SIMPLES bye bye ya **** and have a nice day
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Never said or implied that. Just made a factual statement.
Sorry if I hit a sore spot.
Does it make you feel better when you call people names?
Oh, BTW it's grammAr.
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Oh, BTW it's grammAr.[/QUOTE
Surely MR Spelling police you mean By the way not BTW go and sit in a corner with your sad self and create your own thread insted of spamming mine bye
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crazymanc said:
Cheers would this work for my uk device details are
Build number acer_a500_7.006.01_COM_GEN1
Kernel version 2.6.36.3+
android version 3.2
thanks again
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Apparently the 1.031 has been OTA'd in both Europe and Canada that I have heard of (was originally reported as European release only) Take a read in the Dev section, I am sure the same question has been asked regarding compatibility with certain gen's.
I am not up on what the different gen's are but I believe the differences are in the locale settings such as wifi and gps and such.
Still trying to figure these all out.
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CyaN1de said:
Apparently the 1.031 has been OTA'd in both Europe and Canada that I have heard of (was originally reported as European release only) Take a read in the Dev section, I am sure the same question has been asked regarding compatibility with certain gen's.
I am not up on what the different gen's are but I believe the differences are in the locale settings such as wifi and gps and such.
Still trying to figure these all out.
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Ok thanks for your help will report back once i give it ago thanks again
Try using search for your gen and see if anyone else has asked the question regarding this.
So many threads out there my head spins trying absorb the info....LOL
no update yet?
try using the eu update instead. i did and it worked perfectlly. look in the other forum ie acer iconia a500/androiddevelopment.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113878
use this link and hope it helps. !!!
Its here in Uk (East Midlands),Got mine this morning 1/2hr download,10mins install, first reactions, dissapointing,expected more, yes display seems higher res, not yet noticed any other major changes but not used fully yet, so all you still waiting dont expect a lot.
i STILL haven't received my ics update in corby (uk) its starting to really get on my nerves now! feeling like I'm the only 1 waiting lol..don't want to use a leaked 1 as I'm not 100% with where to put it etc when u extract bla bla. I'm pretty good with my tablet normally but so wouldn't trust myself with updating the firmware manually
NOTE: I prefer being on the stock ROM and using KIES. Please either steer your suggestions towards that, or avoid responding. Any posts telling me to dump Kiest and/or go with a custom ROM will be reported as off-topic, as I want this thread to be useful for others like me.
With that said, the main reason that I like the UK ROM is that the stock apps are in English by default, and there aren't TOO many of them (many can be removed/disabled as well). My issue with the unlocked UK firmware is that Samsung UK is bound by the carriers there, so they don't release the XEU firmware until after several carriers have released theirs. We're likely another month away from JB on the UK SGS2.
I once tried another ROM, and while the system language could be set to English, it had some odd quirks and stock apps were limited to the native language of that firmware's country. So, are there any non-carrier ROMs that are predominantly English without too much additional bloatware? I'm likely going to try Poland next. If I have to, I'll remain on UK if it is the best option, even if the wait does suck.
LSN is latest build of JB. I've downloaded but yet to take the plunge. Was going to just wait a few more weeks and see. The main reason i haven't yet is because i use the memo feature. I realised once on JB you can sync it online. You can also back it up with kies but when/if going back to ICS you can't just sync from online (not available with ICS version) plus if you backup with kies you can't wipe after install with JB connect to kies and restore it!
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LSN is latest build of JB. I've downloaded but yet to take the plunge. Was going to just wait a few more weeks and see. The main reason i haven't yet is because i use the memo feature. I realised once on JB you can sync it online. You can also back it up with kies but when/if going back to ICS you can't just sync from online (not available with ICS version) plus if you backup with kies you can't wipe after install with JB connect to kies and restore it!
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I understand that LSN is the latest build, but when you download builds from different countries, you get different language limitations with built-in apps, as well as different built-in apps. IE, the UK firmware has BBC Iplayer built-in, but other countries don't have this.
By your requirements, Nordic firmware should suit you fine. Has no extra apps/bloatware apart from stock Samsung (not even Video Hub).
And the above implies that there are no foreign language apps, none at all. Also, Samsung Apps market/Playstore automatically configures themselves to your locale, so you can download the BBC app from wherever it is available.
This will also ensure that Kies compatibility remains as is.
Ah i thought kies wouldn't work? When i flashed Spain im sure you couldn't connect to kies to restore some data! That's a result if it doesn't effect the use of kies!
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Don't want to be reported for going off topic (God forbid in this forum! ) but how do you install another ROM using Kies other than recovery or updates of the base ROM that was originally installed on the phone? I'm really interested to know.
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Don't want to be reported for going off topic (God forbid in this forum! ) but how do you install another ROM using Kies other than recovery or updates of the base ROM that was originally installed on the phone? I'm really interested to know.
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Odin is the only way to do that- i think it picks up firmware and csc(?) codes when connected then checks against Samsung servers.
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jaykresge said:
NOTE: I prefer being on the stock ROM and using KIES. Please either steer your suggestions towards that, or avoid responding. Any posts telling me to dump Kiest and/or go with a custom ROM will be reported as off-topic, as I want this thread to be useful for others like me.
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So how is the author of the original post moving between ROM's from other countries using Kies?
Yes, Kies is useless and so unfortunately then is this thread.
You need to use Odin.
So what is the point of a discussion on the use of stock, country specific ROM releases if the author of the OP doesn't want to use or discuss the use of anything other than Kies to install the ROM, something that Kies won't do anyway?
And now I fear I will be reported for going off topic in this misleading thread.
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Once you use Odin to switch to another country's ROM, you can stick with KIES for further updates and device management if that is your preference (as it is with me). A moderator was kind enough to remove one post that was off-topic, but I'm not going to spam the moderators with delete requests. As was stated in the original post; if you don't like stock ROMS and/or Kies, this thread is not for you. Move along.
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By your requirements, Nordic firmware should suit you fine. Has no extra apps/bloatware apart from stock Samsung (not even Video Hub).
And the above implies that there are no foreign language apps, none at all. Also, Samsung Apps market/Playstore automatically configures themselves to your locale, so you can download the BBC app from wherever it is available.
This will also ensure that Kies compatibility remains as is.
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Kranti, thank you for this. I'll try them next.
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Once you use Odin to switch to another country's ROM, you can stick with KIES for further updates and device management if that is your preference (as it is with me). A moderator was kind enough to remove one post that was off-topic, but I'm not going to spam the moderators with delete requests. As was stated in the original post; if you don't like stock ROMS and/or Kies, this thread is not for you. Move along.
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I'm not saying I don't like stock firmware. I'm currently using the stock UK Vodafone release myself. What I am saying is that you want this thread to be helpful to others but you claim to only want to use Kies, something which you can't do if you want to try other countries stock ROM releases. This may be misinterpreted or misleading for new members. At least explain that in the OP instead of slamming down a blanket warning and threatening the wrath of the mods for off topic comments. Far from being off topic, I'd say the use of Odin and not Kies was pretty relevant.
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The desire is to remain on stock partially for Kies usage. Odin for country swapping is a requirement. Since you now understand the distinction, get on topic or please leave the thread.
I already understood what was required. It's just a pity you haven't made the use of Odin clear in your original post.
As I said, I'm using the Vodafone LSD release. Before that I was using the Nordic LSN firmware. Before that I was using the Spanish LS8 ROM. Apart from the Vodafone bloat and a network connection failure with LSN release, I found very little difference in performance with each of the firmware releases.
I am disappointed that the UK unlocked JB update hasn't been released yet, but if you're limiting yourself to Kies then until it is released and you're not on Vodafone then ICS is the only game in town.
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Ok Gent, thats enough, back on topic please
my o2 hanset got jb update yesterday via OTA but i did it through kies
Flashed Indian!
Just flashed stock Indian Firmware and it gives me no trouble! Thanks SamMobile.
Nordic firmware ended up being perfect. Much less bloat than the UK firmware a no language issues. Thanks again for the recommendation.
May I recommend using the "Thanks" button..
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The one downside to this ROM is the lack of Kies support. If I roll back to the March update, I can regain that. The benefit to Kies support for me is that I can then get updates as they roll out, instead of having to search and use Odin. I'll have to see if I can find the differences between the March LSN update and the April LSN update for Nordic countries.
What I'll probably end up doing is waiting for the next Nordic Kies update and flashing that, which should kill two birds with one stone (Kies support and latest version/fewest bugs).
Well instead of me writing, here is the link:
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/galaxy_s4s3note_2_getting_4_3_gear_support_in_the_coming_weeks.html
I hope someone can leak out the final built for the n7105 section... I live in Australia, if America is getting it in a couple of weeks it means I'm getting it in a couple of years so we would appreciate the leak once it's released.
new thread, subsribed!!
via Note2
agreed mate
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Well instead of me writing, here is the link:
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/galaxy_s4s3note_2_getting_4_3_gear_support_in_the_coming_weeks.html
I hope someone can leak out the final built for the n7105 section... I live in Australia, if America is getting it in a couple of weeks it means I'm getting it in a couple of years so we would appreciate the leak once it's released.
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im the same live in brissy been trying the at&t version seanz rom everything works but dont have wifi due to bootloader issues be sweet once that is sorted the rom is butter smooth but no wifi is the killer as vodafone data sucks nuts on 4g where i am
This is the update schedule for American carriers. Does that mean that unlocked phones will get it sooner? I hope so. I only just bought the note 2 (Best decision ever) and would love it to be running on 4.3 ASAP.
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im the same live in brissy been trying the at&t version seanz rom everything works but dont have wifi due to bootloader issues be sweet once that is sorted the rom is butter smooth but no wifi is the killer as vodafone data sucks nuts on 4g where i am
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I live in Brizzy too and I'll second or third that if its the only way we can get it? Sorry for the possibly stupid question, but is it true that if you have rooted and installed a custom rom, then you won't get the push update from your carrier anyway?... so.... the only way to get 4.3 on my (and I assume your rooted phone) is via custom rom download?
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I live in Brizzy too and I'll second or third that if its the only way we can get it? Sorry for the possibly stupid question, but is it true that if you have rooted and installed a custom rom, then you won't get the push update from your carrier anyway?... so.... the only way to get 4.3 on my (and I assume your rooted phone) is via custom rom download?
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or if you go back to stock.
have issues with the ota updater as soon as i root my device. The moment i do that i get the message that my device has been changed and i cannot use the updater then. if i flash stock withouth root i don't have this issue.
reckon its best to make a backup of your apps with TB or any similar program when the official update is available, then flash back stock (no root) and update, afterwards simply restore your normal (non-system) apps and your ready
I'm in Aus too, but the official story (courtesy of Telstra) is that there won't be any updates as of JB 4.1.2, unless there's sufficient backlash ...
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I'm in Aus too, but the official story (courtesy of Telstra) is that there won't be any updates as of JB 4.1.2, unless there's sufficient backlash ...
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To answer you and the gentleman above... Australia will probably be the last country on earth to get the update as usual. So we might have to reside to getting it of some kind developer who uploads it here somewhere.
If you do wish to get updates you should go back to stock firmware (probably the first backup you made for your telstra 4.1.2) doesn't matter if it's rooted. Connect your phone to the PC and have KIES installed. Click update firmware and update (done, it will automatically unroot your phone and put back the stock recovery). You can easily update after that.
If anyone finds any android 4.3 working please update us here as soon as you can with a link to the page. If I find a working ROM for the official android 4.3 TW ROM I'll post it here too.
I don't think Aussie tel companies will well I don't have high hopes when it comes to Samsung I've always had HTC and Samsung and it's always the same get f all. I'm using 4.3.1 carbon I use GMD spen features for spen control and gestures don't use stock Sammy apps anyway.. just the 4.3 would be good because it's smooth as
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I like the update 4.3 but ill want rom without knox. I need root
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Well now...I've been holding off playing with rooting my phone (as I'm new to 'droid and have an awful lot to learn, but have come a LONG way in 2 weeks) as I was expecting Telstra to release an update. Since that appears NOT to be forthcoming, Ill consider the various root options, none of which are particularly appealing at the moment mainly as it seems no-one has a stock ROM for this phone online and I can't backup mine without root. Catch 22 it seems. Information on locked bootloaders, Telstra ROM mods, rooting the 7105 "T" version is VERY limited
So...if anyone happens to have a link for a ROM copy please let me know.
(Or info on a rooting technique that works)
Ultimately every one on xda will be using the custom 4.3 rom for the note 3 goodies because Samsung will not be releasing those features in it's official release
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Well now...I've been holding off playing with rooting my phone (as I'm new to 'droid and have an awful lot to learn, but have come a LONG way in 2 weeks) as I was expecting Telstra to release an update. Since that appears NOT to be forthcoming, Ill consider the various root options, none of which are particularly appealing at the moment mainly as it seems no-one has a stock ROM for this phone online and I can't backup mine without root. Catch 22 it seems. Information on locked bootloaders, Telstra ROM mods, rooting the 7105 "T" version is VERY limited
So...if anyone happens to have a link for a ROM copy please let me know.
(Or info on a rooting technique that works)
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Okay I will explain what I done for you...
When I first rooted my Galaxy Note 2 in May, I was a new-comer to android, I had an iPhone for a long time. What I done was root my phone, I Odin installed TWRP after rooting because I really don't like CWM (those are the names of the 'recoveries' available), they will replace the default Samsung recovery. Just make sure you get TWRP. I think it's up to TWRP 2.6.3
Well yeah let's get back to the topic, as soon as I rooted I used TWRP to make a backup of my default Telstra ROM (completely with EFS, MODEM, basically tick everything you can possibly backup).
I took that backup and put it on my laptop and on my PC and I kept a copy on my external card the whole time. That was the best idea, any time I ever had any problems with my phone I went back to that backup. I even soft bricked my phone once and after hours of panicking I realised I can just Re-install the default backup, and it fixed my phone.
Oh and I just recently un-rooted my phone to check for updates. All I done was use SuperSU to do an UNROOT. Then went into recover, restored the original backup I made of the Telstra ROM. Plugged my phone into the PC, and used Samsung KIES to check for firmware update. It just restarted my phone, removed TWRP recovery, re-installed the samsung one, and it removed the root completely and I'm basically went back to my original telstra ROM. I can go into settings and check for updates and everything. (I can confirm there is no update as of yet).
AS for your other QUESTION.
ALL THE ROMS in the N7105 Section will WORK with your N7105T Model. It's the same thing. JUST WATCH OUT and make sure you never install N7100 ROMS (They will soft-brick and could hard-brick your phone).
Thanks for the input.
I've been considering between 3, namely CF AutoRoot, Galaxy Note Toolkit And (exploit based) Framaroot, with a bias towards Toolkit so far ( as it specifies the 7105 "T" variant).
But if you've actually ODINed a GT-7105T (Telstra) with CWP without issues, I'll certainly consider that.
Any one else care to chime in on this (if you've done the same phone/telco only though !)
I've come far enough to understand rooting,boot processes, CWM/TWRP, exploits AND the importance of picking the exact model !:laugh:
I'll take the plunge when I get enough input to decide.
morph000 said:
Thanks for the input.
I've been considering between 3, namely CF AutoRoot, Galaxy Note Toolkit And (exploit based) Framaroot, with a bias towards Toolkit so far ( as it specifies the 7105 "T" variant).
But if you've actually ODINed a GT-7105T (Telstra) with CWP without issues, I'll certainly consider that.
Any one else care to chime in on this (if you've done the same phone/telco only though !)
I've come far enough to understand rooting,boot processes, CWM/TWRP, exploits AND the importance of picking the exact model !:laugh:
I'll take the plunge when I get enough input to decide.
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It's not that hard really, you can't really mess it up if you follow the instructions... Hey root it whichever way you see fit, whatever you think is easier for you, don't listen to me. But I do highly recommend you get TWRP for backing up and formatting and installing your ROMS. Also I recommend PAC-MAN it's a good ROM, but it's not very stable at the moment (kind of).
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It's not that hard really, you can't really mess it up if you follow the instructions... Hey root it whichever way you see fit, whatever you think is easier for you, don't listen to me. But I do highly recommend you get TWRP for backing up and formatting and installing your ROMS. Also I recommend PAC-MAN it's a good ROM, but it's not very stable at the moment (kind of).
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Don't take offense at my asking for multiple inputs. I just don't want to brick at $600 phone needlessly
I've now sourced a ROM from Sammobile and downloaded it last night.
I'm backing up settings and stuff tonight and will run with Galaxy Note 2 Toolkit tomorrow (I went PRO) and go for option 3 - THE LOT !
Hopefully it'll all go ok.
morph000 said:
Don't take offense at my asking for multiple inputs. I just don't want to brick at $600 phone needlessly
I've now sourced a ROM from Sammobile and downloaded it last night.
I'm backing up settings and stuff tonight and will run with Galaxy Note 2 Toolkit tomorrow (I went PRO) and go for option 3 - THE LOT !
Hopefully it'll all go ok.
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Haha you don't go pro over night my friend. Hope it all went all, if you have any issues or like to share your experience with the ROMS let us know.
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Haha you don't go pro over night my friend. Hope it all went all, if you have any issues or like to share your experience with the ROMS let us know.
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Well, I did the deed last night with Toolkit PRO and it all went smoothly. No Telstra or Samsung nasties reared their heads PLUS there wasn't a yellow triangle either !
That's the trouble with being in Oz. It's such a small market and REAL information is very hard to come by...so one is very cautious !
Anyway thanks for your assistance :victory:
morph000 said:
Well, I did the deed last night with Toolkit PRO and it all went smoothly. No Telstra or Samsung nasties reared their heads PLUS there wasn't a yellow triangle either !
That's the trouble with being in Oz. It's such a small market and REAL information is very hard to come by...so one is very cautious !
Anyway thanks for your assistance :victory:
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I Odin flashed mine straight out of the box before I even set it up pulled backup and kept stock rom for warranty only.. these phones are pretty much unbrickable to an extent just don't go trying flashing n7100 roms and you'll be fine at&t roms are ok too just don't flash their bootloaders or even try to.. I change roms daily and have for like the last 2 years on my original note plus HTC's if your unsure on anything this place is helpful more than bloody Samsung
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Sammobile: 4.3 is rolling out for the S3.
I just bought the HTC One for $200, but then I saw that Best Buy had the Samsung Galaxy s4 on sale for $50. I did not know which one I wanted and was truly torn between the two and ended up buying the HTC but if I can save $150 I will gladly get the s4. My only problem is that as I've been reading up on cs4 forums to make sure that I would be able to unlock root and flash custom roms I had came across what seems to be the problem with an AT&T firmware update known as mf3. If I cannot root and flash custom kernels and roms I do not think I will take advantage of the offer from Best Buy. My problem is that even after all the reading I cannot figure out whether it is possible to root and flash custom ROMs and kernels to the new version from AT&T, known as mf3, or if it is still not possible, or if it will be possible very soon so that I'm may use Android 4.4 Kit Kat on the phone or any custom Rom I wish. Can someone please clarify this for me as soon as possible because my time to return the HTC One to AT&T is coming close to its end?
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You can root and flash some roms using safestrap. But it's very limited. Imo I'd stay away from the s4
It's there any progress toward cracking MF3? I've had a one x for pat year and kinda wanted a change and I love the screen on the s4. If you had to choose between the s4 and the HTC one taking into consideration the mf3 problem, which would you choose? And which would you choose if there was no mf3 problem?
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If you can find a S4 with MDL or earlier firmware it's a excellent phone. Personally if it has MF3 or later I wouldn't bother. But that's just my opinion.
You might as well get rid of the One as well. It's just as locked down.
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Untrue, about HTCone being just as locked down. It can have it's boatload unlocked quiet easily and if you want to, although it's not necessary, you can even do s-off to get full unbridled access. I previously had a HTC one x and also from everything I've read it seems AT&T went out of there way to lock down s4 tight , just like they did to the one x but eventually the devs got it. I do want the s4 though,even though this phone is awesome(HTC One), and I can live with no custom Rom for a while but I can't go without root. So if I get a s4 with mf3 will it still be able to be rooted ? I've read up on it but don't understand what everyone is talking about when they say if the phone is encrypted or notand it seems to be random.
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So sick and tired of reading about MF3, or MK2 constantly on these forums. If you want to buy an S4 on AT&T look for an MDL one on eBay. It's not that hard, really.
Or buy the T-Mobile variant or International version.
Thanks for your kind response to my honest question mattmjb0188. I can't get a t mobile or international variant bc I'm on a budget. I will use my upgrade to get the phone at best buy for $50, and the condition of this price is that it must be a contract renewal/upgrade, which is another reason I can't get diff version of the phone. Did you even read the op? I would love to get one brand new out of the box with mdl but the odds of that are slim hence why I asked the question in the 1st place. So if you can't help or don't like the question then don't respond, but I do thank you for your info about the other variants that don't have issues, it just doesn't help me.
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Rad ryan said:
Thanks for your kind response to my honest question mattmjb0188. I can't get a t mobile or international variant bc I'm on a budget. I will use my upgrade to get the phone at best buy for $50, and the condition of this price is that it must be a contract renewal/upgrade, which is another reason I can't get diff version of the phone. Did you even read the op? I would love to get one brand new out of the box with mdl but the odds of that are slim hence why I asked the question in the 1st place. So if you can't help or don't like the question then don't respond, but I do thank you for your info about the other variants that don't have issues, it just doesn't help me.
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Anyone new on these forums just asks over and over about MF3 and the Android 4.3 update. Basically, if you get an S4 with Mf3 or later firmware, you are pretty much stuck on stock. Then we have noobs who don't read and attempt to root their MF3 phones and brick them.
On pure stock, the S4 is a bad phone. The software is very laggy and needs a lot of improvement. I was one of the early adapters when it first came out. The phone was a nightmare with MDB and MDL firmware. Mf3 made slight improvements, but not enough.
I would not even invest in buying this phone right now. Most development for it has died down because of the restrictions. Developers are moving on. Those of us with MDL firmware (like myself) won't see much continued support for Loki nowadays anyway. If the bootloader could be unlocked, I believe it would have been unlocked by now. All these workarounds are very limited, and dangerous.
Personally, I wouldn't even buy the phone at this point. Scrape the funds together for either the T-Mobile S4 or Note 3.
Get the nexus 5, you'll be very happy
Thank you very much for that answer, that was an excellent answer. Although I'm not a noob bc I've been doing this stuff for years and been a member for years.I did the trading but I am not familiar with Samsung at all bc the last Samsung I had was a captivate. It's there a lot of active development for the t mobile variant? I'm guessing it's probably around $600, right? Lastly do you think that there will be a solution to the lock down of mf3 and later in the next few months?
Again thanks for your very helpful answer.
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Thank you very much for that answer, that was an excellent answer. Although I'm not a noob bc I've been doing this stuff for years and been a member for years.I did the trading but I am not familiar with Samsung at all bc the last Samsung I had was a captivate. It's there a lot of active development for the t mobile variant? I'm guessing it's probably around $600, right? Lastly do you think that there will be a solution to the lock down of mf3 and later in the next few months?
Again thanks for your very helpful answer.
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The development for the AT&T S4 has died down. In my opinion, no one will ever unlock the bootloader for it. Maybe someday with some future device, but not this device. The closest we got was with the loki method, which was great. But that's long gone now.
Look on negri for the T-Mobile variant. I think its M919. I'm not sure. T-Mobile developers have been able to make great roms for the device, instead of wasting so much time to find a workaround. Maybe even try T-Mobile out and see if they've improved in your area. They got a lot better in my area, but still a lot of EDGE.
If I were you, I'd go for the Nexus 5.
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Thanks for your kind response to my honest question mattmjb0188. I can't get a t mobile or international variant bc I'm on a budget. I will use my upgrade to get the phone at best buy for $50, and the condition of this price is that it must be a contract renewal/upgrade, which is another reason I can't get diff version of the phone. Did you even read the op? I would love to get one brand new out of the box with mdl but the odds of that are slim hence why I asked the question in the 1st place. So if you can't help or don't like the question then don't respond, but I do thank you for your info about the other variants that don't have issues, it just doesn't help me.
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Heres my suggestion, if you want the s4, get it from best buy than sell it unopened for as much as you can and than with the money you get buy a tmobile or i9505 international variant...(not i9500 or the verizon or sprint one)
The tmobile variant is probably your best bet, the tmobile variant supports all of ATT service bands so youll have no issues with reception or internet. The tmobile variant can flash roms from any of the other s4 variants (verizon sprint att i9505...just not any roms from the i9500)
So in other words if you get the tmobile variant you dont have to worry about a dead dev scene as you can always flash roms from a differnt carrier...only thing is you will probably have to set up your apns for att rom flashes
Hope that helps you
And on another note if you decide to stick with the ATT s4, every firmware can be rooted
Mdb has real recoveries, so you can flash anything as long as you "loki" the kernel - Unfortunately I do not think there are any stores that are selling phones with this firmware
Mdl has real recoveries, so you can flash anything as long as you "loki" the kernel...Unfortunately it is pretty much impossible to find a phone with this firmware in any store now
Mf3 has safestrap which is kinda like a recovery, with it you can flash any touchwiz based 4.2.2 rom (stock roms) or any 4.2.2 Google Phone Edition (aka GPE, which is an aosp experience S4, no bloatware no samsung features, its like having a nexus in the body of an s4) rom...NO CUSTOM KERNELS, NO AOSP ROMS (no cyanogenmod) - this is the firmware most phones come with
Mk2 (latest firmware) recently got a beta safestrap...as of now you can flash some 4.3 touchwiz stock based roms, alot dont boot yet, and the GPE 4.3 rom doesn't boot with it either. As it becomes stable it should work identical to the one for mf3 - phones will probably start coming with this one soon
In other words, safestrap allows you to run roms that are built off the same firmware version as your stock rom, safestrap flashes no kernel, so whatever rom you flash has to be compatible with the stock kernel of your current firmware
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Rad ryan said:
Thank you very much for that answer, that was an excellent answer. Although I'm not a noob bc I've been doing this stuff for years and been a member for years.I did the trading but I am not familiar with Samsung at all bc the last Samsung I had was a captivate. It's there a lot of active development for the t mobile variant? I'm guessing it's probably around $600, right? Lastly do you think that there will be a solution to the lock down of mf3 and later in the next few months?
Again thanks for your very helpful answer.
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They actually seem to be getting close to another work around which will allow you to flash any rom or kernel using safestrap...turns out theres a feature in the 4.3 mk2 kernel which allows unsigned drivers to run, in theory they can compile a kexec driver for the kernel which would allow you to use any kernel thus allowing the flash of any rom...theres a how-to thread in the original development section with more info, however...its not a guarentee we will see this anytime soon, as you never know what issues they may run into...but something to look into if your interested
EDIT: actually heres a post from the thread i mentioned which pretty much sums up how we hope this "exploit" will work as far as kernel flashing goes http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48703510&postcount=10
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With all that said; how come I have the MF3 baseband my s4 (jflteatt), and I still have a custom recovery with the ability to flash different roms and kernels? Is it because I installed the custom recovery on an earlier baseband and then it got updated to a newer baseband but still kept recovery?
I only found out I had MF3 on my phone now because I couldn't flash a different recovery anymore.
Yes
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With all that said; how come I have the MF3 baseband my s4 (jflteatt), and I still have a custom recovery with the ability to flash different roms and kernels? Is it because I installed the custom recovery on an earlier baseband and then it got updated to a newer baseband but still kept recovery?
I only found out I had MF3 on my phone now because I couldn't flash a different recovery anymore.
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It is literally impossible to have officially updated through OTA while on a custom Recovery. What I suspect has been done is the same as my phone. I got an MDL device and quickly installed TWRP and a custom ROM. As new updates came out, I flashed just the baseband. So now, I have a 4.4 ROM with the MK2 baseband and am able to install anything I like.
If I were to have ever done an OTA, I would no longer be able to have a custom recovery because of a blown Qfuse.
Please don't try to say that what you have is the only phone with OTA MF3 and custom recovery.
The only way to have anything like that is through SS and that is not a true recovery. If you do have that, you can only install certain ROMs not including AOSP, AOKP, MIUI, or CM.
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When did I ever say I was the only one? I asked a simple question that I mostly had the answer to already; which in turn was answered by a simple "Yes" from HiTideBlastoise.
And I never said anything about OTA either. I said I had installed custom recovery on an earlier baseband and then my baseband was updated but recovery was still intact.
I never said you did say that. It was preemptive. Secondly, you make it out to seem like you did nothing to update your baseband. You are making it seem like it just happened. Well, that can't happen without either updating the entire phone or flashing it yourself. The funny thing is the baseband means nothing when it comes to recoveries and flashing ROMs. It can only be used as a possible sign on a stock device as to what version one is running. On a modified device, like yours, it is worthless information on the version of Android. Like I said before, I have 4.4 with MK2 as my baseband. How can I install ROMs. Not because it updated my baseband after I already have a custom recovery... But because I never took an OTA and made it do the stuff I wanted.
Basically what I am saying is that you need to be clear with what you say. Everything you said makes it sound like your phone did it all by itself without you or someone else making it the way it is. There is no other option. You have to have done something to have a custom recovery and an MF3 baseband with pre MF3 bootloaders.
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I agree with graydiggy that the only way to still have a custom recovery and mf3 baseband is that you either flashed an mf3 tw rom with a modem or a a standalone modem to your mdl software. If you took the "OTA" successfully, you will definitely have a locked down bootloader now.
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