Hello, I have been waiting for Samsung HK to release the ICS before purchase. Within a day after the release, lots of users in HK have complained several issues. I tried a Galaxy Note with ICS in a local store, the response of that device was like 50% slower than that before the upgrade. How come even the hardware is the same, some users have more problems than the others (with respect to locally and globally)?
Probably because those ppl upgrading didn't wipe after the ICS upgrade.
When I tried out the LPY rom without wiping, it did really feel like everything was noticeably slower.
Wiping sorted out the performance issue for me. Of course, Samsung should really ensure that users don't really have to wipe to get peak performance post upgrade to ICS..
Sent from Galaxy Note
aussiebum said:
Probably because those ppl upgrading didn't wipe after the ICS upgrade.
When I tried out the LPY rom without wiping, it did really feel like everything was noticeably slower.
Wiping sorted out the performance issue for me. Of course, Samsung should really ensure that users don't really have to wipe to get peak performance post upgrade to ICS..
Sent from Galaxy Note
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Just keep going on and tell ppl to wipe with the buggy ics kernels..........
Samsung might send you medal of honour for that..
I read that they have the following problems. At this stage, do you recommend buying the Note only if it has ICS pre-installed or wait until Samsung HK has fixed the bugs? (Not sure if the Note with ICS pre-installed has these problems.) Why Samsung does not release the same ICS to different countries?
- "Google Map always force close during the time of GPS location "
- Cannot receive signals from routers of 5GHz
- Front camera changed from 2M pixels to 1.3 M pixels
- Very slow response over all. (My experience is about 50% drop in speed overall.)
- Poor battery performance
- High RAM usage
- Becomes very hot easily
- GPS disappeared (not sure as I don't read Chinese well).
- Some kind of mess up with music files (not sure as I don't read Chinese well).
aussiebum said:
Probably because those ppl upgrading didn't wipe after the ICS upgrade.
When I tried out the LPY rom without wiping, it did really feel like everything was noticeably slower.
Wiping sorted out the performance issue for me. Of course, Samsung should really ensure that users don't really have to wipe to get peak performance post upgrade to ICS..
Sent from Galaxy Note
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Like dude above said, wiping throught cwm or even stock wipe/factory reset on any ics, except cm9 is not safe. It can brick your phone.
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I often read the word "brick" in forums related to Android phones. Is that the same as breaking the phone into an useless state?
hajime_android said:
I often read the word "brick" in forums related to Android phones. Is that the same as breaking the phone into an useless state?
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A brick is a building stone for your house, slang for unusable. In case of ics it can render broken mmc chip, thus making it nearly impossible to fix for ordinairy consumers.
You have softbricks and hard bricks. In case of ics chance of hard brick is higher
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hajime_android said:
I read that they have the following problems. At this stage, do you recommend buying the Note only if it has ICS pre-installed or wait until Samsung HK has fixed the bugs? (Not sure if the Note with ICS pre-installed has these problems.) Why Samsung does not release the same ICS to different countries?
- "Google Map always force close during the time of GPS location "
- Cannot receive signals from routers of 5GHz
- Front camera changed from 2M pixels to 1.3 M pixels
- Very slow response over all. (My experience is about 50% drop in speed overall.)
- Poor battery performance
- High RAM usage
- Becomes very hot easily
- GPS disappeared (not sure as I don't read Chinese well).
- Some kind of mess up with music files (not sure as I don't read Chinese well).
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Just from my personal experience, I haven't noticed any of that even though I installed ICS without wiping/factory reset. My Note is no slower since upgrading from GB, it gets no hotter, GPS still works with Google Maps, the battery lasts the same as it did on GB, the RAM usage is no higher, the front camera looks exactly the same in Skype, and my music works just the same as it did before.
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Just from my personal experience, I haven't noticed any of that even though I installed ICS without wiping/factory reset. My Note is no slower since upgrading from GB, it gets no hotter, GPS still works with Google Maps, the battery lasts the same as it did on GB, the RAM usage is no higher, the front camera looks exactly the same in Skype, and my music works just the same as it did before.
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I am puzzled why some people have issues while others don't. Where did you get your Note?
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Just from my personal experience, I haven't noticed any of that even though I installed ICS without wiping/factory reset. My Note is no slower since upgrading from GB, it gets no hotter, GPS still works with Google Maps, the battery lasts the same as it did on GB, the RAM usage is no higher, the front camera looks exactly the same in Skype, and my music works just the same as it did before.
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You sure you upgraded? If it acts the same, no better no worse, maybe you thought you upgraded,but you didn't.
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I am puzzled why some people have issues while others don't. Where did you get your Note?
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Somewhere in Hong Kong. I live in Shanghai, but I didn't want to buy the Chinese model Note, so I got my brother-in-law to buy it for me when he went to Hong Kong in April.
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You sure you upgraded? If it acts the same, no better no worse, maybe you thought you upgraded,but you didn't.
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Yes, definitely. There were a lot of changes (fonts, face unlock, Settings in the status pulldown menu, etc) and of course it says Android version 4.03 in the 'About Phone' section of Settings.
My gf's phone is a rooted Note. Yesterday she saw a notification for firmware upgrade, which I dismissed just in case. If I install the update, will it lose root/CWM? How could I re-root it back? Is this software update affected by the brick thing when you wipe? Thank you!
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Probably because those ppl upgrading didn't wipe after the ICS upgrade.
When I tried out the LPY rom without wiping, it did really feel like everything was noticeably slower.
Wiping sorted out the performance issue for me. Of course, Samsung should really ensure that users don't really have to wipe to get peak performance post upgrade to ICS..
Sent from Galaxy Note
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I have reset to factory default after upgrade and everything is fine now.... I knew it is not a desire option but I don't see there will be any good option.
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Probably because those ppl upgrading didn't wipe after the ICS upgrade.
When I tried out the LPY rom without wiping, it did really feel like everything was noticeably slower.
Wiping sorted out the performance issue for me. Of course, Samsung should really ensure that users don't really have to wipe to get peak performance post upgrade to ICS..
Sent from Galaxy Note
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My sister have some issue of Wifi after upgraded to ICS 4.0 from Samsumg Kirs, please advice how to wiping if her phone is not root.
Thanks & Regards
Settings menu - Backup & Reset (I think you should have this menu) - Factory Data reset. I reckon you might find it otherwise on Settings - Security - Factory Reset
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Settings menu - Backup & Reset (I think you should have this menu) - Factory Data reset. I reckon you might find it otherwise on Settings - Security - Factory Reset
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Best to dovthis ftom a gb rom as from ics, this is what causes the hardbrick
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aussiebum said:
Probably because those ppl upgrading didn't wipe after the ICS upgrade.
When I tried out the LPY rom without wiping, it did really feel like everything was noticeably slower.
Wiping sorted out the performance issue for me. Of course, Samsung should really ensure that users don't really have to wipe to get peak performance post upgrade to ICS..
Sent from Galaxy Note
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My sister have some issue of Wifi after upgraded to ICS 4.0 from Samsumg Kirs, please advice how to wiping if her phone is not root.
Thanks & Regards
Excuse me! I am new to Android. What is mean by "wiping"?
I suppose "rooting" is similar to "jail breaking" in iPhone term. Am I right?
Do people who have "rooted" their phone have more issues after upgrading to ICS? Thanks.
My first time upgrade from 2.3.6 to 4.0.3 = lagging like hell and battery hog!
Then I had it reset to factory settings from menu. = no more lagm or lesser lag i should say. But battery hog still.
Then i did a hard reset (pressing volume button + power button + center button when my mobile off) = battery works a bit better now but still a bit hog.
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My gf's phone is a rooted Note. Yesterday she saw a notification for firmware upgrade, which I dismissed just in case. If I install the update, will it lose root/CWM? How could I re-root it back? Is this software update affected by the brick thing when you wipe? Thank you!
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Yes, you will lose root and CWM. You can root and get back CWM after updating if you choose to. dr. ketan's mega thread explains how. I rooted after updating but chose not to install CWM.
For those of you who still haven't received the update, you might not get it OTA (from my personal experience). My phone found no update OTA, but instantly informed me of the update when I checked with Kies, so make sure to check both methods.
I didn't wipe after upgrading to ICS, not sure I want to yet. My personal observations are: battery life is a lot better (phone switches to sleep a lot faster now), reception/signal is much better, and the stylus accuracy is better. I've noticed no bugs with Maps or Music (though I haven't tried using GPS with Maps yet).
The bad things I've come across: 1) I've noticed so far is some very noticeable lag/sluggish touchscreen response, especially when clicking apps/buttons on the screen and any scrolling gestures. It's especially noticeable after waking the phone. 2) RAM load is also noticeably higher than before under normal usage (~100-200 MB more). 3) The phone takes a lot longer to perform "media scanning" after turning on. 4) A minor thing I've noticed is the phone takes a couple of seconds longer to shut down lol. Other than these 4 issues, my phone has been fine.
EDIT: I've found minor bug with the Music player - custom playlists randomly get deleted by the phone...major pain to redo them all. And I can't find where the phone saves them so I could at least try to back them up.
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Hello everybody,
I didn't think I'd be writing this thread. I mean, owning a SGS is a dream come true for me. But I came to know that the reality is not as good as my dream.
First, let me start with the PLUS/Advantages
--> Obviously, the best screen I've ever seen till date.
--> Feels very thing and light, though a bit large, definitely its pocketable and handy (IMHO).
--> Android 2.1 interface rocks! Superb Visuals unlike iOS and very user friendly.
--> Android Market
--> Superb Default Browser
-->Very Very Responsive, just like the iphone.
--> Great hardware - Still couldn't belie it is able to play 720p videos with more than 6mbps bitrate.
--> Excellent Video camera - 720p video recording is so cool!
--> Excellent NIGHT mode!
--> Dedicated SGS section at XDA
Now, the MINUSes/ Disadvantages.
--> Initially I thought, only the lack of flash and the iphone like model are the only bad things about this phone.
--> LAG, LAG, LAG, LAG! As the usage days increases, the lag increases gradually. And I'm unable to get rid of the lag.
And what's most annoying is that, even the telephony and messaging application is lagging (android could've atleast reserved some permanent resources for both of these apps, as they are the ACTUAL PHONE apps.)
--> Battery - Still I'm not sure whether it is a good battery or not. But I'm definitely disappointed. All of my friends used to have a probem with their smartphone, if they use the features of their phone, the battery won't even last a day. But before buying SGS, I read in various reviews about its great battery life. So I thought, I can use all the features of this phone and it'll last atleast a day or more. But if I use the features of this phone, then battery won't even last for a day. But if I use it like a normal phone, the battery is good (But who wants that? I need to use those features, that's why I've put so much money into this box )
--> Samsung. I guess I'll be stuck with what I have. No official updates, no fixes, no nothing.
P.S: If any one of you can help me out with my problems with LAG and share some tips on battery improvement, IT'D BE GR8!! (Of course, I did see the threads regarding tips, but still...)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251
Battery
Fully charge battery, then use it until it is completely discharged, recharge fully, that is one cycle.
After you have done five complete cycles your battery should be conditioned and give you longer between charges.
My phone lasted about 8 hours when I first got it, after three cycles it's now lasting 24 hours between charges.
Hope that helps.
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Battery
Fully charge battery, then use it until it is completely discharged, recharge fully, that is one cycle.
After you have done five complete cycles your battery should be conditioned and give you longer between charges.
My phone lasted about 8 hours when I first got it, after three cycles it's now lasting 24 hours between charges.
Hope that helps.
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Really? i can't believe this.
I have used my phone for 2 weeks. if I follow this procedure now, will it still work?
And thanks a lot, Geryatrix, for your your reply
@ AllGamer - Thanks for the link mate. I've seen that earlier, but I'm too noobish to try that out. I'm waiting for an OFFICIAL samsung firmware update. So that, if anything happens while updating that firmware, I could still claim my warranty
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but I'm too noobish to try that out.
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Just update your firmware to JM2 and all your lag problems will be gone. Seriously, i had 4 different firmwares and can honestly say, that JM2 is lag free. It also comes with a samsung provided task manager(long press home now includes a button to sammy task manager).
Updating firmware is so easy, and you can't brick your phone(honestly).
There's no harm in flashing, since there are now stock firmwares available, so you can go back if you want to return the phone in future. Why wait for the official update?
@buddy01 - thats very convincing. I'd like to do that. But this phone is my 3 month salary - I wouldn't dare to spoil it in anyway. Of course, it makes sense, when you say 'NO BRICK + REVERSIBLE FIRMWARE'... But still . . . .
BTW, is the thread mentioned by AllGamer ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251) is JM2 firmware??
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BTW, is the thread mentioned by AllGamer ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251) is JM2 firmware??
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No, that's the mimocan lag fix, which in my honest opinion is not needed anymore since JM2.
If i were you, i would just go with the JM2 and see if that's fast enough for you (is for me) and if not then try the lag fix.
All i can say is that im 99,9% sure you won't brick your phone if you flash your firmware like everyone else.
I am running JM2 with the lag fix. And my phone is still laggy as hell.
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Filgaliel said:
I am running JM2 with the lag fix. And my phone is still laggy as hell.
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Must be some crappy configuration, app, something messing it up. Mine is Flash Gordon fast. I don't know if the fact that i use launcherPro instead of Touch(lag)Wiz, make any difference. It might also be that something is changed in latest (JM1,JM2) firmwares in such a way that mimocan fix is actually a burden now. Who knows, but im lag free, honestly.
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Must be some crappy configuration, app, something messing it up. Mine is Flash Gordon fast. I don't know if the fact that i use launcherPro instead of Touch(lag)Wiz, make any difference. It might also be that something is changed in latest (JM1,JM2) firmwares in such a way that mimocan fix is actually a burden now. Who knows, but im lag free, honestly.
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Strange. I too use Launcher Pro. What I experience is this.. I press to open an app.. The app starts to open but seems to freeze midway for a second or two, sometimes longer. Even when I try to enter the settings menu I get this lag.
Another strange thing is that sometimes when in an app the screen returns to home screen as if the back button has been pressed. I reenter the app but instantly I am returned to home screen. I try another app.. Same thing. Only when I turn the screen off and on again will I be able to open an app..
Very weird..
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Strange. I too use Launcher Pro. What I experience is this.. I press to open an app.. The app starts to open but seems to freeze midway for a second or two, sometimes longer. Even when I try to enter the settings menu I get this lag.
Another strange thing is that sometimes when in an app the screen returns to home screen as if the back button has been pressed. I reenter the app but instantly I am returned to home screen. I try another app.. Same thing. Only when I turn the screen off and on again will I be able to open an app..
Very weird..
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Something is definetly wrong with your setup. i would do a factory reset and/or do the flashing again with re-partition and forget the lag fix.
Only app that takes 2 to 4 seconds to open in some occasions is gallery, and that is if i open it the first time (fresh boot or killed with task manager). everything else i commonly use, such as dialer one, handsentSMS, app draw, camera, gmail, market, youtube, browser, maps, contacts ... all open instantly.
The other problem your experiencing, i have never heard of. Must be some app acting wrong or things got messed up because of the mimocan fix. Honestly i would do a factory reset and then re-flash JM2 and forget the mimocan fix.
Yeah perhaps you´re right. I think I will.. Thanks.
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Yeah perhaps you´re right. I think I will.. Thanks.
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Good luck!
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I repeated the procedure this time with mimocan fix on EXT4. I now rate 1592 in quadrant and the phone is smooth as hell..
I haven't tried mimocan fix yet sounded very good, but rather complicated and requires Odin's flashing the phone.
My current galaxy is rooted and I install AutoKiller to better manage the memories. So far so good, lag are kept at the minimal. This procedure to me is far simpler and give acceptable performance.
Mimocan is the most complicated because in addition to odin flashing the kernel (not the entire firmware), you must also partition an external sd card and make some changes to the filesystem with an terminal program.
Mimocan gives you the best quadrant score atm, but after seeing a video of it in work, i can without a doubt say that my phone is just as fast with the newest jm2 firmware only.
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Ok then, I guess I have to go with jm2. Can you please tell me where can I get that firmware and a tutorial for that.
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No, that's the mimocan lag fix, which in my honest opinion is not needed anymore since JM2.
If i were you, i would just go with the JM2 and see if that's fast enough for you (is for me) and if not then try the lag fix.
All i can say is that im 99,9% sure you won't brick your phone if you flash your firmware like everyone else.
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I won't be flashing jm 2 as of now as froyo is out and will be given officially in few months. till then I'll manage with this lag.
I have a Verizon Tab and am experiencing very slow performance on my device. I'm experiencing very slow transitions between homescreens and application screens list-pages, touch screen unresponsiveness, media scanner takes like 15 minutes on SD card(its not SD card as I took it out).When I first got it, it was as everyone else described it as being with a few hiccups sometimes, but nothing like I am experiencing now.
I did a soft reset and even a hard reset. Installed OCLF and uninstalled it as it made no difference in my situation. Wondering if I could flash an original firmware or a different firmware to see if that fixes the problem. Has anyone else had this problem?
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Kinda weird,I got tired of trying to fix my tab and charged it up and turned it off and put it back in the box and didn't plan on messing with it until there was some custom roms(had to enjoy my thanksgiving) as I couldn't sell it like it is. So, today I decided to turn it on and it's back to its normal speed but battery was at 0% for some reason(odd as I charged it to about 87%) .
I think something went wrong with my nand/install or something as whenever I'd boot up it ask me what language I prefer(eng or espanol...no hablo espanol) and I'd select english then it would just go to the home screen(but it's suppose to ask you for your gmail account and so fourth) from there and sluggishness would ensue. I also have verizon service/3g now for some reason(I don't have a plan for them).
There's one thing though, a few buttons(home, search, menu) don't work as they didn't work before but the back button does. I am not too worried about that as I know it's not hardware related because they work in recovery but... and the notification bar is unresponsive. lol
I didn't like the response time of the home screen when I got my Sprint SGT so I replaced it with LauncherPro from the market. It is so much smoother now by my perception.
Not sure about your overall slowness but you might want to give that a try.
Also, I have heard that the Verizon version of the SGT is bloatware city. I can't confirm since I have a Sprint model but just relaying what I have read.
Yeah, I tried launcher pro before and still get the same type of lag.
I'd try rooting and removing the bloatware, or freezing them if you have titanium pro. Freezing will leave them installed so you won't miss any ota updates.
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You know, I love this thing and overall its on par with speed on my incredible but the quadrant score is ****. My device got about 1000 when my phone gets 1400. dunno what Samsung did to this thing lol.
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Is there anyway to format my internal SD card?
shoman24v said:
You know, I love this thing and overall its on par with speed on my incredible but the quadrant score is ****. My device got about 1000 when my phone gets 1400. dunno what Samsung did to this thing lol.
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That's because Quadrant is a rubbish benchmark. You can OCLF and see a massive jump in Quadrant, but it won't actually make the Tab any faster in the real world IMO.
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This was exactly why I took my Verizon tab back and got a Sprint one instead.
I would try a factory reset, then de-bloat though, who knows what wonders it may have.
I would not really recommend the OCLF, that's just my personal opinion though, others may suggest otherwise.
I do stand behind Launcher Pro. I love it
Been thinking about the Galaxy tab the last week or so. So yesterday went over to Carphone Warehouse to have a play with one. I was particularly interested to find out about the flash in browser performance which I have heard isn't so flash.
I have a HD2 with MDeejay Desire HD Android ROM running on it and flash on it is very smooth.
I have to say the Galaxy Tab seemed a bit more sluggish and just seemed that bit more cumbersome to navigate around.
Anyone else have a Desire HD and Galaxy tab and tell us their thoughts.
The android system is all about user imput. Its rough and it supports a whole load of chipsets but it needs a little cunning to get going. And, for now, it simply cannot be as fast as ios or windows 7.
Its all about cool cheap stuff. And sticking it to apple!
But for me this is a sign of conceptual maturity... it is a risk happy system that believes its on the way to glory.
I like that
Kinda weird,I got tired of trying to fix my tab and charged it up and turned it off and put it back in the box and didn't plan on messing with it until there was some custom roms(had to enjoy my thanksgiving) as I couldn't sell it like it is. So, today I decided to turn it on and it's back to its normal speed but battery was at 0% for some reason(odd as I charged it to about 87%) .
I think something went wrong with my nand/install or something as whenever I'd boot up it ask me what language I prefer(eng or espanol...no hablo espanol) and I'd select english then it would just go to the home screen(but it's suppose to ask you for your gmail account and so fourth) from there and sluggishness would ensue. I also have verizon service/3g now for some reason(I don't have a plan for them).
There's one though, a few buttons(home, search, menu) don't work as before but the back button does. I am not too worried about that as I know it's not hardware related because they work in recovery but...
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Is there anyway to format my internal SD card?
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would like to know this as well
you should be able to do this through windows - connect usb, mount, then use the windows formatting tool with fat32
foxmeister said:
That's because Quadrant is a rubbish benchmark. You can OCLF and see a massive jump in Quadrant, but it won't actually make the Tab any faster in the real world IMO.
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Except, you know, when it's lagging.
anyone found a way to get rid of the annoying lag that SOMETIMES the keyboard has in JB 4.1.1?
Try another keyboard. No kidding. Perfect keyboard pro is my choice. Its fast and customizable. Although it does take away the hand writing mode.
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anyone found a way to get rid of the annoying lag that SOMETIMES the keyboard has in JB 4.1.1?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2025155
that is why i am in no rush to upgrade to jellybean, jellybean rendered my xoom completely useless it's completely unresponsive, i won't be upgrading when i get my note 10.1, staying on ICS.
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that is why i am in no rush to upgrade to jellybean, jellybean rendered my xoom completely useless it's completely unresponsive, i won't be upgrading when i get my note 10.1, staying on ICS.
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JB for the N8000 is as close to flawless an update as I've ever seen. It adds a ton of new features and improves a lot of the existing ones. It improves performance too. The keyboard issue was a one time event that happened right after I updated. There's absolutely no benefit of staying on ICS.
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JB for the N8000 is as close to flawless an update as I've ever seen. It adds a ton of new features and improves a lot of the existing ones. It improves performance too. The keyboard issue was a one time event that happened right after I updated. There's absolutely no benefit of staying on ICS.
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yeah but how many apps do you have installed on your tablet for it to preform that smoothly? i'm not taking my chances because my xoom is now a useless paperweight, i don't want my note ending up the same way.
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yeah but how many apps do you have installed on your tablet for it to preform that smoothly? i'm not taking my chances because my xoom is now a useless paperweight, i don't want my note ending up the same way.
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Over 100 apps and 30 home screen widgets. Most of us that have the N8000 have been on JB for quite some time. If there were issues they'd have been reported.
I had lag but realised it was only when using Chrome. Using the stock browser now everything is fine.
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There is a problem with Chrome on JB i had the same issue the lags are unbearable
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There is a problem with Chrome on JB i had the same issue the lags are unbearable
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yeah tell me about it, i use firefox now, i still have to put up with the lag in the os but at least i don't have to put up with chrome anymore.
anyways if i do take chances with my note is there anyway to roll back the firmware to ICS if i get any problems?
i have roughly 82 apps installed on this xoom and that's far less than what is installed on your note and it's completely unresponsive, i have 2 pages of widgets installed on the xoom that is impressive if your note is not lagging at all, does it lag or freeze when you type? can you type fast and edit sentences without lag? what about the process button? can you swipe away processes without it freezing? can you unlock your note lockscreen without lockup? sorry for all the questions, i just want to make sure i make the right decision to install jellybean on my new tablet or not.
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yeah tell me about it, i use firefox now, i still have to put up with the lag in the os but at least i don't have to put up with chrome anymore.
anyways if i do take chances with my note is there anyway to roll back the firmware to ICS if i get any problems?
i have roughly 82 apps installed on this xoom and that's far less than what is installed on your note and it's completely unresponsive, i have 2 pages of widgets installed on the xoom that is impressive if your note is not lagging at all, does it lag or freeze when you type? can you type fast and edit sentences without lag? what about the process button? can you swipe away processes without it freezing? can you unlock your note lockscreen without lockup? sorry for all the questions, i just want to make sure i make the right decision to install jellybean on my new tablet or not.
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Why are you making such a big deal out of this? Dozens of N8000 owners have been on JB without issue for weeks. It sucks that you had issues with Motorola but that doesn't mean that every device you use in the future will have issues when updated. I have more apps and widgets than you and haven't had a single issue with JB other than the one time event of having to reinstall the language for handwriting and clear cache and data on the Samsung keyboard. Both took all of two minutes. After using JB no one could pay me to go back to ICS on the Note. What you do or don't do is your business and I'm only posting this so that your comments don't freak other people out.
HUYI said:
yeah tell me about it, i use firefox now, i still have to put up with the lag in the os but at least i don't have to put up with chrome anymore.
anyways if i do take chances with my note is there anyway to roll back the firmware to ICS if i get any problems?
i have roughly 82 apps installed on this xoom and that's far less than what is installed on your note and it's completely unresponsive, i have 2 pages of widgets installed on the xoom that is impressive if your note is not lagging at all, does it lag or freeze when you type? can you type fast and edit sentences without lag? what about the process button? can you swipe away processes without it freezing? can you unlock your note lockscreen without lockup? sorry for all the questions, i just want to make sure i make the right decision to install jellybean on my new tablet or not.
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If the xoom is that bad why not reflash ICS on it?
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stoney73 said:
If the xoom is that bad why not reflash ICS on it?
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that is the problem, you can't, idc anyways i'm getting the note next week.
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that is the problem, you can't, idc anyways i'm getting the note next week.
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why cant you exactly?
HUYI said:
yeah tell me about it, i use firefox now, i still have to put up with the lag in the os but at least i don't have to put up with chrome anymore.
anyways if i do take chances with my note is there anyway to roll back the firmware to ICS if i get any problems?
i have roughly 82 apps installed on this xoom and that's far less than what is installed on your note and it's completely unresponsive, i have 2 pages of widgets installed on the xoom that is impressive if your note is not lagging at all, does it lag or freeze when you type? can you type fast and edit sentences without lag? what about the process button? can you swipe away processes without it freezing? can you unlock your note lockscreen without lockup? sorry for all the questions, i just want to make sure i make the right decision to install jellybean on my new tablet or not.
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I did experience same way ... keyboard lagging but actually JB UK version is better than german version ... less keyboard lagging ...
but I decide to back to ICS ... keyboard typing is very responsive ...
To back to ICS is easy ... you just need re flash again with ICS Rom via odin ... some time /not alwayas after re flash back to ICS .. it will hang at Samsung logo ... :fingers-crossed: but don't worry ... just go to "Recovery system Mode" press power + down button and "wipe data/factory reset" and reboot ... and every thing will be fine ... back to ICS
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Hey. I dunno if this has been said but it takes time to read. I have also had this problem before and got the same problem again after a factory reset. Couldnt remember how I fixed it but checked the setting a bit and found a solution that at least works on the GN.
First enable developer options in the settings (to do this go into "About Phone" under settings and tap model number till its activated). Go into developer options and check the box for "Force GPU rendering". After that your keyboard should be smooth again. Fast typing is too much for the CPU? Anyways, hope this fixes your problem.
I have an unlocked s8 G950U (US snapdragon) model and it's laughably slow. For instance I can have an app open and the phone will grind to a halt when a call comes in unable to accept or reject it for 5 seconds or so. It runs fine but the responsiveness is not there.
Typically I would take a phone flash a custom rom on it and tweak the kernel to get it to work right. It's my understanding that the locked bootloader will greatly limit what I can do in this regard, so the best I can do is flash the same factory rom again.
Does anyone have any recommendations for this issue? Am I expecting too much?
zerocover said:
I have an unlocked s8 G950U (US snapdragon) model and it's laughably slow. For instance I can have an app open and the phone will grind to a halt when a call comes in unable to accept or reject it for 5 seconds or so. It runs fine but the responsiveness is not there.
Typically I would take a phone flash a custom rom on it and tweak the kernel to get it to work right. It's my understanding that the locked bootloader will greatly limit what I can do in this regard, so the best I can do is flash the same factory rom again.
Does anyone have any recommendations for this issue? Am I expecting too much?
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Mine runs unbelievably fast I even have it underclocked some bassicly stock rooted and debloated
only lag I ever see is opening the notif bar
no such issue here for me, one of the fastest and smoothest phones i've ever held in my hand, would recommend a factory reset or at least cache clearing from recovery, it helps to do it from time to time
Gasser.Atef said:
no such issue here for me, one of the fastest and smoothest phones i've ever held in my hand, would recommend a factory reset or at least cache clearing from recovery, it helps to do it from time to time
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I'm sure that would help but the phone is 2 months old. Factory resets every two months would be horrid, at least we have an SD card slot so I can keep all my documents there during the reset..
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I'm sure that would help but the phone is 2 months old. Factory resets every two months would be horrid, at least we have an SD card slot so I can keep all my documents there during the reset..
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if the phone is only 2 months old then there is something wrong, my first factory reset was after 8 months of purchasing the device and it wasn't out of lag or it not being responsive, maybe you should try a factory reset or maybe a different firmware ( an official one ) to see if the problem is solved even after 2 months of using
and you don't have to necessary lose your data, with smart switch you can backup everything, except apps data itself, but pretty much everything else from call logs to apps, photos and music on both phone and SD card can be backed up and restored in minutes
No such issues here. The phone is smooth as melted butter. Am on Oreo beta. SE 9.0 is much better than SE 8
try a settings reset in settings, might help, together with clearing cache.
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no such issue here for me, one of the fastest and smoothest phones i've ever held in my hand, would recommend a factory reset or at least cache clearing from recovery, it helps to do it from time to time
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Than hold one oneplus5T haha kills the s8
It's pretty sad that the user who paid close to a thousand dollars has to resort to wiping their data, because Samsung is so incompetent at creating software that stays smooth after use...
My device has never been wiped and I got it on the 20th of April last year, battery life is excellent as always, but app opening animations are 20 fps and the UI stutters when doing normal things like switching between apps. It'll be interesting to see what the Oreo / SE9.0 update does for smoothness, I might even think of doing a factory reset if performance doesn't improve after the update.
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Than hold one oneplus5T haha kills the s8
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i didn't really like it. its not a matter of just how smooth and fast the device runs, but for me as for overall features, s8 is the best phone in the market right now
Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.
Factory reset or full wipe after updating to a new firmware. Also, do not restore Google apps, just start from a scratch.
I also have serious lag, it feels like a budget phone. I've had this phone since it launched, and installed every update without precaution. This is the first time experiencing these issues.
Frame rate is terrible, especially while scrolling. Delays in pressing buttons or launching apps have grown from milliseconds to sometimes two or three seconds. No other problems(aside from poor design choices). It feels like aggressive power throttling, not memory issues.
As soon as I saw that so much manual power management has been replaced by a "learning" system, I'm skeptical that the usual fixes will do anything for my problems, especially considering there is no other malfunction. Anyone else?
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bigalbklyn said:
Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.
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Samsung Galaxy s8 SM-G950W. Yes. Ever since the update, my Samsung is losing files., running slow and unable to use previously used apps. Substranum, fonts etc.
It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.
Hansoliv said:
It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.
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Well, that's what I was waiting to hear. If ppl aren't universally having the issue, then a factory reset may cure the problem. I'll give it a try soon.
Yes i just got bad performance after installing pie (custom rom, so i always factory reset or it wont work) but yeah after 14 days my phone start to slowing down like old smartphone and the apps is not starting correctly (e.g i must start magisk manually or the root wont work (the app cant detect if phone is rooted even when magisk hide is off)).
I try the LightROM and ALEXIS and both have this problem (performance way worse on lightrom). I know this isnt their fault but the samsung fault (maybe because its early relase? Or...).
Note : performance is normal in the first day, but after 14-30 days the phone start to acting weirdly (the apps behave weirdly) dunno why.
Btw i use SM-G950FD
After restarting about 5 times, then manually clearing cache partition, I was able to get smooth performance. Unfortunately, I still have to restart at least once a day to prevent lagging animation. This is with light usage: streaming, facebook, email.
I turned on "reduce animations" in advanced features, and set the animation scales to 1.5 with dev options. This seems to help prolong smooth operation, but I still have to restart daily. Next step is factory reset, I have a lot to backup...
fresh install thru odin and start all over again is really good solution. at the beginning i also experiencing lag
Mine has an issue of having the fingerprint not working after it was changed. I have to do one of the following:
1. Restart and boot via safe mode then if it works, reboot again
2. Restore Settings from synced backup
3. Reset Settings
So much of a hassle.... I am thinking of rooting this soon.
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It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.
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My company bought Samsung J4plus on good deal from Three, has super sensitive reception, my own S8 only get EDGE or worse, J4 has 4G all over!!
anyone know if s9/S10 that good??
bigalbklyn said:
Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.
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Had the same problem so flashed official firmware (for my carrier, downloaded from sammobile) with Odin. This part can be done without of rooting your phone.
Do this first (back up your data before as clear flash will delete everything), and test after if it works well. If not, root it (https://forum.xda-developers.com/sa...w-to/guide-root-install-twrp-samsung-t3747535) and install adaway from xda labs.
If you root the phone or install TWRP, e-fuse will break and you cannot go back after that. Warranty will be void and the Samsung fit app won't work anymore.
Fortunately, there are workarounds on a rooted phone (https://tinyurl.com/yy37gnwv) so that is not a big deal, at least for me.
Not sure when you root it if wave pay services will work so do some research first.
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fresh install thru odin and start all over again is really good solution. at the beginning i also experiencing lag
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Has your lag subsided after time? Mine appears after a night's sleep. It never fails: Restart in the morning, smooth scrolling all day. Next morning, laggy, stuttering scrolling until I restart again. I've uninstalled all unused apps and left power mode on high performance. No change. As soon as I wake up, animation lags like a budget phone. Everything else is reliable, just not the animation.
Of course, I don't actually know what's going on, but I'm willing to bet that this new power management system that we can't control is to blame. If I have to go through all the odin, etc steps, I may just roll back to oreo. Pie is prettier, but I want my smooth operation back.
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My company bought Samsung J4plus on good deal from Three, has super sensitive reception, my own S8 only get EDGE or worse, J4 has 4G all over!!
anyone know if s9/S10 that good??
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S10e gets similar reception to my A8(2018). When I got the A8 I had a S8 before that, and i don't remember there being any difference in signal. I live in poor signal area, so if a phone had bad signal, I'd probably remember because I owuldn't have any signal at all.
This is really quite unacceptable. I took the OTA update and the lagging began. I've never had an issue with an OTA update. I've never done a factory reset after an OTA update either. Flashing custom ROM is different but this is from Samsung...
Does anyone have a solution that doesn't involve daily reboots or a factory reset? I just find that really inconvenient.
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This is really quite unacceptable. I took the OTA update and the lagging began. I've never had an issue with an OTA update. I've never done a factory reset after an OTA update either. Flashing custom ROM is different but this is from Samsung...
Does anyone have a solution that doesn't involve daily reboots or a factory reset? I just find that really inconvenient.
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Yes, I agree. It's hard to know at whom who to point the finger. Google, Samsung, or both. Regardless, it's very disappointing, and hurts my impression of both companies.
I'm currently allowing the phone to run for 7 days to see if the root method listed above by robyos may be feasible for my tmo s8.
If manually restarting is the only hurdle for you, it can now be set to restart automatically (I guess they anticipated this?) Settings > device care > three dots > auto restart.
It feels like a duct-tape band-aid, but it's there. After my 7 day test, I'll probably give this auto-restart a try. However, I'm concerned about the terribly annoying tmo jingle at each restart.
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Yes, I agree. It's hard to know at whom who to point the finger. Google, Samsung, or both. Regardless, it's very disappointing, and hurts my impression of both companies.
I'm currently allowing the phone to run for 7 days to see if the root method listed above by robyos may be feasible for my tmo s8.
If manually restarting is the only hurdle for you, it can now be set to restart automatically (I guess they anticipated this?) Settings > device care > three dots > auto restart.
It feels like a duct-tape band-aid, but it's there. After my 7 day test, I'll probably give this auto-restart a try. However, I'm concerned about the terribly annoying tmo jingle at each restart.
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I'm thinking the problem may be googles not Samsung's...I had a OnePlus 5 for almost 2 years. At some point after the pie update it would stutter while scrolling or during animations intermittently. Even a factory reset didn't fix it. The phone was still fast but it was aesthetically annoying seeing the stuttering.
I drown the phone in the ocean on vacation this month and had to replace it so I got a used s8. I haven't had the same issue with scrolling but I've only had it for a couple weeks so far on a fresh wipe. It had some "normal" Samsung lag that the OnePlus didn't have while opening apps and it doesn't keep nearly as much in memory (4gb vs 8 GB RAM). But I'm still thinking the problem may be with pie itself since people were complaining about stuttering on both Samsung and OnePlus phones.
Hopefully my s8 is not affected and it's only certain ones experience it.
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totally not satisfied with the Pie update, I wish I did not upgrade my fast S8.....
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I'm thinking the problem may be googles not Samsung's...I had a OnePlus 5 for almost 2 years. At some point after the pie update it would stutter while scrolling or during animations intermittently. Even a factory reset didn't fix it. The phone was still fast but it was aesthetically annoying seeing the stuttering.
I drown the phone in the ocean on vacation this month and had to replace it so I got a used s8. I haven't had the same issue with scrolling but I've only had it for a couple weeks so far on a fresh wipe. It had some "normal" Samsung lag that the OnePlus didn't have while opening apps and it doesn't keep nearly as much in memory (4gb vs 8 GB RAM). But I'm still thinking the problem may be with pie itself since people were complaining about stuttering on both Samsung and OnePlus phones.
Hopefully my s8 is not affected and it's only certain ones experience it.
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Wow! It's sad to hear an 8gb phone would still have the same issue. I wonder if this has to do with power management. Perhaps it's squeezing a tiny percentage of battery life out of saving some frames. It drives me crazy and gives me a headache. I wish they'd provide a simple switch for whatever this is.
This os feels like they ventured into breaking what works in an endless quest to fix what wasn't broken. Perhaps some team of programmers is celebrating minute improvements, but it's coming at the expense of the consumer, who never signed up to be the guinea pig. Each update seems to remove or break basic reliability and functionality that we paid for. I feel like I paid a premium price to become a software tester.
So reboots don't seem to fix the lag I'm experiencing when opening and closing certain apps. This phone was plenty fast before for me. Other issues are present now too. Auto adaptive display brightness doesn't work as well. I also really think it's sheet that you can't disable GPS and have the battery saving mode anymore! WTF Samsung.