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Not sure if this applies here or in the development forum but I'll give it a try in here. I know the root isn't out yet but I'm still lookong foward to using a custom rom on this awesome phone. I have never used the cyanogen rom and would to know some key feautures about it. Also I kind of want to use the desire rom as well, I've never used sense and that commercial for that new sense looks pretty awesome, anyone else gonna use that? Or maybe something other than those two? Thanks and sorry again if this belongs in development.
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Ok I really disappointed in the Xperia x10 development section.
The only usable Roms are based on 2.1. Now these roms are fantastic. Really do the job well and I would class them as fully operational.
Now the other threads based on 2.2,2.3,MIUI etc are indeed under development. Some excellent work going on and if the 3 Musketeers could only project manage then Im sure a full working rom would be achieved.
So really Im wondering why XDA does not have a full working rom section that allows noobs like myself to go to to download knowing its a fully tested working rom?
Now before the fanboys jump all over me I would state that I am a donator to worthwhile causes and development but seriously the roms released so far can in no way be advertised as stable enough for daily use. It is a phone after all....eg. In one prominent thread today a developer is congratulated for releasing a rom that cannot make a telephone call.......Yesterday one was congratulated for an update that doesnt allow the phone to even switch on!
I do notice in the majority of other areas of XDA there are plenty of full working roms for other devices. Im fully aware that SE's security on this device has so far made it impossible to cook a newer version of android without using old parts.
So perhaps the x10 forum sections do indeed need an area for full working roms. Id presume the developers would also like this so they can transfer there work to it when completed and in return be suitable rewarded for there efforts.
Your thoughts?
I'm releasing a gingerbread rom today with everything working! Oh hai jk guise nothing works lulz
On a serious note, free x10 has been great to me..only issue is camcorder, but it is otherwise perfect
fiscidtox said:
I'm releasing a gingerbread rom today with everything working! Oh hai jk guise nothing works lulz
On a serious note, free x10 has been great to me..only issue is camcorder, but it is otherwise perfect
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Thanks for your reply. I did indeed try this ROM but I was getting way to many errors in my day to day use for it to be considered stable for daily use. I was also not keen on the support from developer. I believe he has been MIA now for a considerable time....
I do fully understand though that without that developer I would not have been able to do the majority of things I have done to my phone....Hopefully this ROM will one day be Fully working and can be classified as such...
Weird I have not had a single issue... I use my phone a lot too.
I've been using wolfbreaks 2.2.1 CM6.1.3 for about ten days and it's stable. No stock videocam but flash & apps2sd more than make up for it. Very quick and aesthetically pleasing.
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Weird I have not had a single issue... I use my phone a lot too.
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Well Im sure you are in the minority going by my experiences and the other comments in that huge thread!!!
I do appreciate though that we all use our phones in different ways....
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I've been using wolfbreaks 2.2.1 CM6.1.3 for about ten days and it's stable. No stock videocam but flash & apps2sd more than make up for it. Very quick and aesthetically pleasing.
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Again tried and far from stable! Perhaps though that is where the issues arise....One mans stable is another mans manic!
My version of stable is a ROM that allows me to use all my hardware functions and reports no errors.....Just like stock....
Ever think maybe it's you? I've been keeping up with the free x10 thread and most people don't report errors other than the camcorder..
non working camera and videocam is a deal breaker for me, therefore still sticking with official.
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Ever think maybe it's you? I've been keeping up with the free x10 thread and most people don't report errors other than the camcorder..
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No I am experienced enough thanks to this site to dowload the rom and install. If you cant see the other reports of errors in that thread then perhaps it is me and I need my eyes tested....
Battery drainage?
Screen responsiveness?
Dropping 3g connection?
To name but 3......
Anyhow going slightly off topic when really the point is too see if anyone else thinks a section for fully working roms would be helpful?
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I've been using wolfbreaks 2.2.1 CM6.1.3 for about ten days and it's stable. No stock videocam but flash & apps2sd more than make up for it. Very quick and aesthetically pleasing.
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If thats the one on V4....then i agree its really good. Besides no video recording it has been awesome. Probably my fav rom higher than 2.1.
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I think it's a great idea, but it will be difficult because of the word "fully worked/stable" (what for one person is stable is not for another)
Sure you could put that section in but don't expect to see a single rom that is 2.2+ in there. I realistically as much as i hope I'm wrong don't expect to ever see one in there. This phone is pretty much at the end of it's run now and the bootloader is still locked with no intention from SE to unlock it due to certain copyrighted materials and the such. Sad but a fact i think we all need to start facing.
I almost think we're at the point where there is very little more that can be done other than variations of the same roms already available.
Please do not take this as a shot at the devs as i have much respect for the work they do and without them my phone wouldn't be half what it is today. But in my opinion its time to stop wishing and hoping for things that just aren't in the cards with this particular piece of hardware.
did you come here just to complain? atleast they are making something and wasting thier time for us stop moaning and if your unhappy then dont flash the roms otherwise be happy with what you get.
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No I am experienced enough thanks to this site to dowload the rom and install. If you cant see the other reports of errors in that thread then perhaps it is me and I need my eyes tested....
Battery drainage?
Screen responsiveness?
Dropping 3g connection?
To name but 3......
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These kind of bugs are always reported about OFFICIAL ROMs also Just read every thread after every update from SE etc
I'm using [MOD][rendeiro2005]Cyanogen6.1.3_v01 (CM-updated) for many weeks now for my daily use... Working awesome... Camera works, just video-recording doesn't work properly... This is the only issue... ROM works like a charm
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Ever think maybe it's you? I've been keeping up with the free x10 thread and most people don't report errors other than the camcorder..
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The FreeX10 (beta4) is still 2.2.1 (I'm using it as we speak, very stable, I can't complain). The only 2.3 ROM I've seen discussed for the SE Xperia x10 is Cyanogen CM7.0 RC1 v005 Gingerbread 2.3.3, which --based on current thread discussion, I haven't tried it myself-- appears to be very unstable at this time.
If there's another 2.3 ROM for the X10 circulating the forums, I haven't seen it. Then again, I haven't really looked through the entire thread.
great
I like what this was supposed to become but not what it s actually.
I'm also a new x10 user, I come from htc desire (z). and I was happy to see that it was far more easy to root the x10i and remove the root when the phone has to go for reparation.
It was not my intention to come and play with different roms, but deu to a wrong installation of a theme I had to instal a custom rom. Now, I like the stock X10 interface. so I'm looking for roms who runs better as the stock rom but look more or less the same...
any suggestions?
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These kind of bugs are always reported about OFFICIAL ROMs also Just read every thread after every update from SE etc
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Not true. I don't have those issues, and neither does Eternity, Blue Sparks, etc.
I think this is a good idea, but in practice would fail. There are FAR too few "fully functional" ROMs to warrant a separate forum. Maybe we should just start using [STABLE] tags or something.
There would seriously be like 5 legit posts in that forum, and then it would get filled up with crap till it's unusable.
for u, i think the stock rom and the JIT mod will do it for u if u like the stock rom =)
I know this might seem noobish.....Is there a way to keep the xperia x8 original theme but update it to 2.2 or + ?
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i want the same, its hard to believe that this guys who port everithing cant do this, i dont know anything about edit roms but this doesnt sound hard....sorry about my english
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i want the same, its hard to believe that this guys who port everithing cant do this, i dont know anything about edit roms but this doesnt sound hard....sorry about my english
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Yeah ......I was thinking the same, can someone do it please? I think alot more people want it than just us 2
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i want the same, its hard to believe that this guys who port everithing cant do this, i dont know anything about edit roms but this doesnt sound hard....sorry about my english
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i deal a lot with tech support for various electronics. believe me... ppl who know nothing or very little ALWAYS think everything's easy
Lol But I know a mate that knows alot and still says everythings easy
Yes, it is easy, but every dev wants his android to look the way he wants it. If you want, you can make your own custom theme for the ROM you're using Just go to the theming part of the XDA board (the general one, not the X8 specific )
Could anyone at least tell if it's possible to copy files (and which ones) to copy the theme from 2.1 stock version of android for Xperia X8. If it's impossible, then… well, will have to stick with what we have.
OK so it looks like we have no more kernel devs as of now. (Wedgess is busy and wont be updating the play I think). So I just wanted to ask if there was anyone left working on the xperia play who knows how the make kernels compile/decompile and edit. I'm going to start using the kitchen tool and some other tools from around xda. Already got kitchen set up. But I'm just going to mess around with editing some jb kernels since I'm stuck on that to see what I can do. So if there's anyone else with experience just wanted to know in case I had some questions or if they could help out. This is sort of a question but I thought general would fit it better
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Yes we need a new kernel , i think we need an improved turbo kernel and xperia play will be fine!, Just fix bugs in GB and ICS in Turbo + maby make auto detection of multiboot or make them multiboot automatically and etc... and lots of performance tweaks and then The Xperia Play will be perfect!
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Yes we need a new kernel , i think we need an improved turbo kernel and xperia play will be fine!, Just fix bugs in GB and ICS in Turbo + maby make auto detection of multiboot or make them multiboot automatically and etc... and lots of performance tweaks and then The Xperia Play will be perfect!
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Yes that would be great but the problem is finding someone that knows how to do it or can help an inexperienced person do it. I would rather add multi boot to lupus v13 because for some reason its the only kernel that works on my phone. Whatever wedgess changed between v8 and 9 I need to know so I can do the same for other kernels because whatever it is its the reason it works for me. The problem is the change log is too large for me to figure out
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I would become a dev for the play if I had another device as my daily driver but all I got is the play and I don't want to have to constantly reset and ftf if I screw up...but I promise when I get a new device (hoping on a galaxy nexus) I can start deving and building for our beloved play
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I would become a dev for the play if I had another device as my daily driver but all I got is the play and I don't want to have to constantly reset and ftf if I screw up...but I promise when I get a new device (hoping on a galaxy nexus) I can start deving and building for our beloved play
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That would be awesome. Do you know how to do that kind of stuff
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If you need an new kernel, HERE IM! Nah, just kidding. Also, i agree, DooM doesnt support his kernel much, lupus gets finally stable, and another update brokes it, we definitely need someone good at it..
Waiting will be worth the weight.
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OK so it looks like we have no more kernel devs as of now. (Wedgess is busy and wont be updating the play I think). So I just wanted to ask if there was anyone left working on the xperia play who knows how the make kernels compile/decompile and edit. I'm going to start using the kitchen tool and some other tools from around xda. Already got kitchen set up. But I'm just going to mess around with editing some jb kernels since I'm stuck on that to see what I can do. So if there's anyone else with experience just wanted to know in case I had some questions or if they could help out. This is sort of a question but I thought general would fit it better
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i think this can help u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1814977
raminta said:
i think this can help u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1814977
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Thanks but is there a tutorial for doing it on windows because I don't have linux
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Nope. But you can install it on Virtualbox.
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Nope. But you can install it on Virtualbox.
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Bakisha gave me a link to one with instructions but thanks though
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Also, no offense, but waking up one day, and think, im gonna make an kernel.. Even tho there are many tutorials, its not that easy. Seriously
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Also, no offense, but waking up one day, and think, im gonna make an kernel.. Even tho there are many tutorials, its not that easy. Seriously
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I know I don't really expect any results I'm just going to mess around with it and see what I can do. Most likely itll fail but I won't learn if I don't try
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I know I don't really expect any results I'm just going to mess around with it and see what I can do. Most likely itll fail but I won't learn if I don't try
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Good luck!
From the look of some posts on this thread, if I were Wedgess or Doom I would take some offence to the way people are reacting here...
For starters, Doom hasn't given up on the play and there are multiple people including him who are trying to port the 3.6 (I think) Kernel to the play which will open many doors in to performance and other additions to our device.
@wedgess has made fantastic Kernels for our device with every version of Android available to us - I fail to see why a new Kernel would be required? Especially when development is underway to port the new Kernel to our devices.
@DooMLoRD has also been working on our device for years, not to mention all the other devices he works with. He is also the reason most of the other Kernel developers have been able to make their Kernels for the Play as most of their work is based on Doom's. You should all cut him some slack! He said he would be working on porting the new Kernel, and I have no reason to believe he wont be able to achieve this. People just need to be more patient, things like these take time.
On another note, it's great that you want to try your hand at Kernel Development abdel12345 - I personally have only done minor tweaks myself. If you manage to get into it a fair bit, perhaps you'll be able to help Doom and the others with porting the new Kernel. There's a thread on it somewhere in the development section - unfortunately at the moment I don't think they are able to get it to compile though.
I'm sorry I didn't mean any. Offence to anyone I was just wondering if there was anyone else because I know wedgess it'd very busy and doom as well since they both work on lots of other devices. I just wanted to. Try and see if anyone else would be able to help a little or give it a shot. Again I'm sorry u didn't mean to offend anyone
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OK so it looks like we have no more kernel devs as of now. (Wedgess is busy and wont be updating the play I think). So I just wanted to ask if there was anyone left working on the xperia play who knows how the make kernels compile/decompile and edit. I'm going to start using the kitchen tool and some other tools from around xda. Already got kitchen set up. But I'm just going to mess around with editing some jb kernels since I'm stuck on that to see what I can do. So if there's anyone else with experience just wanted to know in case I had some questions or if they could help out. This is sort of a question but I thought general would fit it better
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I saw wedges on the S3 forum recently (he owns one as well) , I think he might have been doing some AOSP building of [email protected]
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I'm sorry I didn't mean any. Offence to anyone I was just wondering if there was anyone else because I know wedgess it'd very busy and doom as well since they both work on lots of other devices. I just wanted to. Try and see if anyone else would be able to help a little or give it a shot. Again I'm sorry u didn't mean to offend anyone
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My post wasn't directed at you - No worries.
My aim wasn't to seem 'aggressive', but more to make people aware of the current situation which is that things are in place and work is being done. It'll just take time before we get any positive results.
Personally, I've come to terms with the fact that this device is now miles past its expiration date so I'm not holding out for any sort of improvement no matter what the outcome.
@spizzy: no, the mogami board devs are porting the 3.4 kernel, for now only the smultron is at a really good point (the 3.0.8 kernel also is stable for every mogami device and the anzu, only for play/phoenix we haven't so much work done)
@all: the kernel development guys isn't dead, is only rally slow, cause doom and FXP has a LOT of device, and wedgess as he already said is working on the s3's pac; also, it is completaly useless to wake up a day and think "oh, why we don't open a new thread to see if there is someone that now how to develop a kernel?", think a moment, if someone that know a lot of kernel development and have the time to work on it (and also the intenctions to work on it), why he hasn't already started to do something (at least a development thread)?
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@spizzy: no, the mogami board devs are porting the 3.4 kernel, for now only the smultron is at a really good point (the 3.0.8 kernel also is stable for every mogami device and the anzu, only for play/phoenix we haven't so much work done)
@all: the kernel development guys isn't dead, is only rally slow, cause doom and FXP has a LOT of device, and wedgess as he already said is working on the s3's pac; also, it is completaly useless to wake up a day and think "oh, why we don't open a new thread to see if there is someone that now how to develop a kernel?", think a moment, if someone that know a lot of kernel development and have the time to work on it (and also the intenctions to work on it), why he hasn't already started to do something (at least a development thread)?
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I wasn't looking for someone who was a pro at making kernels. I was looking for people with little experience that would like to attempt messing with making/editing a kernel just to make some simple changes so that when I attempt it there will be others who can discuss it. No need for sarcastic comments but I guess the title is misleading sorry.
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From the look of some posts on this thread, if I were Wedgess or Doom I would take some offence to the way people are reacting here...
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Nobody has said anything offensive towards the devs who have worked on the PLAY in the past. This was a friendly conversation about the OP possibly learning to tweak kernels. You are blowing things way out of proportion...for whatever reason.
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People just need to be more patient, things like these take time.
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We don't really have time. Every new game that is released, we are holding our breath hoping that it will run on our phones. Tweaks we have made in the past have gotten us a long way, but now we are running up against a brick wall, and we need help soon.
If someone want's to make a thread about taking action and learning to tweak the kernel on our phones, it would be great if you didn't post in it being negative. You're not helping any of us by doing that.
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OK so it looks like we have no more kernel devs as of now.
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I've finished my introductory course of Python(not relevant, I know), and am 2 weeks into my schooling for that, through a private instructor at the company I work for. What I find exciting though is that my instructor speaks openly about the similarities between dalvik and java, and the way kernels process and execute bytecode. I'm on my way to understanding how it all works, but I have to stay focused on what my employer want's me to learn, for now
yes, i have got my tablet ui back in 4.2.2!!! so annoyed by the new ui
i love the tabletui soooooo much since i saw it about a year ago, then i turned all my s3 (sold) and note2 roms' ui into tablet mode. now, its my tablet z (but i may sell it for the locked bootloader since i want my custom rom and kernel)
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How did you do this? I downgraded cause i hate the new top menu in 4.2.2.
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I'm waiting for this as well o__o
If you tell me how to do it I'd update back to 4.2.2
I'm also interested in how you got back the old UI. However I noticed the small apps shortcut is missing.
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Spartoi said:
I'm also interested in how you got back the old UI. However I noticed the small apps shortcut is missing.
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Probably in the recent apps try seeing as though that's where Sony moved it in 4.2.2.
Please share the fountain of your knowledge on how you got this bud
what a tease
Hi all
I was updating my blog before and included a simplified howto, sorry for late reply.
@Spartoi oh, u r rite. I didnt notice the tray until u mentioned it, coz i just got my tablet for more than a week's time, and then busy to root it, testing the roms and problems fixing
Anyway, its a matter of time when there will be a guy come out with the mod coz like many of you guys, a roll back to phone ui really upset me
However, i have to say goodbye to my tablet z. I love it but it is just not the right device for me. I prepared to work on those missing mods, tweaks etc that i think the tablet z needs and deserve to have before but finally i find myself difficult to live with this tablet for personal reasons
This is a nice tablet actually, but didnt draw much attention as other sony devices
ykkfive said:
Hi all
I was updating my blog before and included a simplified howto, sorry for late reply.
@Spartoi oh, u r rite. I didnt notice the tray until u mentioned it, coz i just got my tablet for more than a week's time, and then busy to root it, testing the roms and problems fixing
Anyway, its a matter of time when there will be a guy come out with the mod coz like many of you guys, a roll back to phone ui really upset me
However, i have to say goodbye to my tablet z. I love it but it is just not the right device for me. I prepared to work on those missing mods, tweaks etc that i think the tablet z needs and deserve to have before but finally i find myself difficult to live with this tablet for personal reasons
This is a nice tablet actually, but didnt draw much attention as other sony devices
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Its shame that you're selling your tablet as it seems you could have made a lot of cool mods for the Tablet Z.
Anyways I noticed in your blog that you will provide a mod to get the Tablet UI back for us less technical users. Will this include a mod for the WiFi version or just the LTE version?
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Its shame that you're selling your tablet as it seems you could have made a lot of cool mods for the Tablet Z.
Anyways I noticed in your blog that you will provide a mod to get the Tablet UI back for us less technical users. Will this include a mod for the WiFi version or just the LTE version?
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i only have SGP321 10.3.1.A.2.67-1273-0364 on hand. for other versions, i will need the files
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i only have SGP321 10.3.1.A.2.67-1273-0364 on hand. for other versions, i will need the files
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Which ones?
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Which ones?
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android.policy.jar under /system/framework only, if deodexed. else ...... several more files
I'm on a stock Sony ROM so I think its odex. What are all of the files you will need?
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Any chance of getting an Xposed mod? That way you wouldn't have to do it for each sub-device...
me too, me too!
Hi, can SGP311 (10.3.1.C.0.136) be counted in too?
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android.policy.jar under /system/framework only, if deodexed. else ...... several more files
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Here is the file for deodexed wifi version Thanks to @DdcCabuslay ,.
android.policy.jar
Working! Thanks a lot!
If I root my tablet, can I perform the modifications you mention in your blog myself, that is, is that a text file I can just edit and save? I have 32GB WiFi version. Thanks!
Tablet UI mod
@Rootk1t
Can you make it for deodexed rom?
The android.jar is in my previous post.
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@Half Alive
Take it: View attachment android.policy.jar