Ok, so I've been frantically searching the internet for a solution to this problem, and while there is some discussion on solutions, none of them are really satisfactory.
I've flashed ICS onto my Kindle Fire, but there is a huge inconsistency when it comes to whether or not my Fire is actually recognized as an "ICS Tablet". Downloading the Kindle app from the market gives me a tablet style UI, however downloading Mint or Google Docs gives me a scaled up phone version of the UI. This is repeated with many other apps, and extends to apps being marked as "incompatible" in the market.
Now, I've tried adding permissions to tablet_core_hardware.xml as described by another post on the front page, but that had no effect for me. I've also tried changing the dpi to 120, and while Google Docs did react to that, Mint did not, and it has the bad side effect of making the entire UI way too small. I've also tried editing the build.prop file to mimic a Toshiba Thrive, but I'll admit I'm not too familiar with this.
So, basically what I am asking is whether or not anyone has a reliable way to force apps to recognize the Fire as a legitimate tablet? Theoretically, editing the build.prop file to mimic something like a HTC Flyer or Toshiba Thrive sounds like it should work, but as I stated previously, I am not really familiar with how this works. Any ideas, or are we forever doomed to scaled up phone apps?
Me too - Kindle is tablet Gdocs not etc
As far as I know, it is up to each app as to whether or not you get the tablet interface. I don't believe there is anything we can really do besides asking the app developers to make it compatible with our device size.
Mint's tablet interface is only for 9" and 10" Honeycomb and ICS tablets, not 7". Same with all the other apps, some support the tablet interface for 7", some don't.
Where are the development forums?? And.. i couldn't find an answer to this ANYWHERE... but, will we be able to run Windows 8 RTM on HD+??? i'm praying we can.
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Where are the development forums?? And.. i couldn't find an answer to this ANYWHERE... but, will we be able to run Windows 8 RTM on HD+??? i'm praying we can.
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Have the devices been released yet? I don't think they have. Also, Windows 8 requires some pretty specific specs to run on a tablet, and I don't think the new ones fit the bill. Short answer: maybe, but doubtful.
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Nah. If the HD could run Windows Eighter, it would be it's main OS instead of Android.
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Nah. If the HD could run Windows Eighter, it would be it's main OS instead of Android.
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Agreed. Especially with all of the money Microsoft poured into the Nook division over the summer.
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Nook HD and HD+ updates
Nook HD and HD+ both will boot from SD. I'm not sure if this means the bootloader is unlocked or not. ICS seems fairly intact, so I'm not sure if it will be easy to work on.
Posted from an HD+, really liking it but could use gapps.
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Nook HD and HD+ both will boot from SD.
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Is this official or are you just speculating?
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They created Forums for the Kindle Fire HD way before those devices were released... I'm totally drooling over the 8.9" KF and the Nexus 10, but I suspect the Nook HD+ might be better for reading because of its aspect ratio. I really hope there's decent development for it!
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They created Forums for the Kindle Fire HD way before those devices were released... I'm totally drooling over the 8.9" KF and the Nexus 10, but I suspect the Nook HD+ might be better for reading because of its aspect ratio. I really hope there's decent development for it!
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I'm drooling over the Nexus 10 as well, especially with that screen resolution (2560x1600)!
Nexus 10 is indeed awesome, I gave Google my gmail so they can notify me when it can be preordered!
If the Nook HD booted from SD.......then what's the use of the 8GB internal memory? LOL
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Is this official or are you just speculating?
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Can be done with BN supplied SD cards, but I dont know if they are in any way signed or restricted.
Im throwing in my vote for the HD+. It isnt getting the press it deserves. The reviews out there are for the 7" HD, but i can tell you after 3 days of extensive use, the HD+ is a beauty. Smooth scrolling, virtually no stuttering. A little love from xda and this thing will be a dream come true.
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Nah. If the HD could run Windows Eighter, it would be it's main OS instead of Android.
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nope, no way they would swap the OS now. everyone's apps would be forfeit and that would tick off a bunch of customers.it would be like if apple all of the sudden switched to android instead of iOS. Besides, i thought MS had a pretty strict hardware guideline and the nook hd+ only has 1gb of ram (i THINK MS requires all W8 tablets to have 2gb). Anyway the devices always have booted from SD for recovery purposes. I really hope there's a way to get gapps on these devices because they're super nice, they just need the play store to REALLY shine.
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Im throwing in my vote for the HD+. It isnt getting the press it deserves. The reviews out there are for the 7" HD, but i can tell you after 3 days of extensive use, the HD+ is a beauty. Smooth scrolling, virtually no stuttering. A little love from xda and this thing will be a dream come true.
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Yeah i just got mine friday, i'm loving it so far. the reviews for the 7" aren't really fair since the software wasn't ready for primetime but a day-one update fixed all of that. I hope XDA rallies around these new ones since they're so far above the previous models.
I presume that no one has cracked this yet, for CM or anything?
Here's hoping. I'm looking for a Nook HD or nexus 7 for Christmas. I'd love the Nook, I have a Nook Color with CM7 now, but if I can't get the functionality out of it, I'll have to go for the nexus.
VMware
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Where are the development forums?? And.. i couldn't find an answer to this ANYWHERE... but, will we be able to run Windows 8 RTM on HD+??? i'm praying we can.
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VMware for android but you need a server to serve the windows platform or Pocket Cloud if you want something simpler.
nijohnson said:
I presume that no one has cracked this yet, for CM or anything?
Here's hoping. I'm looking for a Nook HD or nexus 7 for Christmas. I'd love the Nook, I have a Nook Color with CM7 now, but if I can't get the functionality out of it, I'll have to go for the nexus.
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I have the HD+ and can't answer the rooting and custom ROM question. But the device does have the option to enable ADB, so I was able to install apk's via adb (took a bit of work to get my computer to recognize the HD+). Anyway, I've been able to install (again via ADB, not rooting), the following apps to my HD+: Kindle, Amazon MP3, Chrome, Firefox, Flash. I installed Rdio, but the music wouldn't stream. I was able to access my Amazon MP3 cloud storage and stream my music that way. The Kindle app works fine..I tested visiting the store within the Kindle app, sending a sample to the app, clicking "Read Now" and having it launch the book correctly. Chrome and Firefox seem to work fine, and Flash works in Firefox. Also, by sideloading the Flash apk, I was able to view flash content in the built-in Nook HD+ browser. The biggest pain is that your sideloaded apps do NOT appear in the Apps drawer. You can only see them by opening the Apps drawer, then simultaneously holding down the volume + button and tapping the "Apps" header at the top of the screen. This brings up a screen entitled "Extras" and looks more like the normal listing of apps you would see. There are a few b&n dev apps, and it appears there is a copy of an Office suite there, too (can't remember which one).
Finally, it appears the HD+ is running 4.0.3, since the Nook SDK appears as an option under 4.0.3 in the Android SDK Manager.
Edit: I also installed Mantano Reader on the HD+. To add epub books to the HD+ via Dropbox, you need to EXPORT them to the My Files section of your internal sd card (didnt test using an external card). If you just open an epub file via dropbox, it will launch the reader app, but I found that once I closed the reader app, I couldnt access the book again (must have put it in temporary storage or in downloads). So the better way to gets books on the HD+ via dropbox is to export them. And after installing Mantano Reader, when I browse to Library -> My Files and tap one of my books, the device asks me which reader I want to open the book in. So once you install a 3rd party epub reader, you could make it the default reader on the HD+ if you so desire.
Try sideloading a launcher to see all you're apps. That's what we did w/ the NT before CelticWeb and rest go CM7 to run.
Go launcher and ADW worked best.
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I got a Nook Tablet HD+ for its screen, and most importantly, its Micro SD support. Definitely better than Kindle Fire HD 8.9 for being cheaper and providing a SD slot while being cheaper.
My plan involves sideloading MXPlayer so I can play MKV files off of it AND if any dev feels generous enough to devote his or her time into it, to install custom ROM on it.
Would be grateful to have a dedicated forum!
If you want a new device forum then you're not going to be heard posting in here. You need to go over to the ***New Device Forum Requests*** thread in About xda-developers.com forum and make a request.
Good luck.
bossfan2000 said:
I have the HD+ and can't answer the rooting and custom ROM question. But the device does have the option to enable ADB, so I was able to install apk's via adb (took a bit of work to get my computer to recognize the HD+). Anyway, I've been able to install (again via ADB, not rooting), the following apps to my HD+: Kindle, Amazon MP3, Chrome, Firefox, Flash. I installed Rdio, but the music wouldn't stream. I was able to access my Amazon MP3 cloud storage and stream my music that way. The Kindle app works fine..I tested visiting the store within the Kindle app, sending a sample to the app, clicking "Read Now" and having it launch the book correctly. Chrome and Firefox seem to work fine, and Flash works in Firefox. Also, by sideloading the Flash apk, I was able to view flash content in the built-in Nook HD+ browser. The biggest pain is that your sideloaded apps do NOT appear in the Apps drawer. You can only see them by opening the Apps drawer, then simultaneously holding down the volume + button and tapping the "Apps" header at the top of the screen. This brings up a screen entitled "Extras" and looks more like the normal listing of apps you would see. There are a few b&n dev apps, and it appears there is a copy of an Office suite there, too (can't remember which one).
Finally, it appears the HD+ is running 4.0.3, since the Nook SDK appears as an option under 4.0.3 in the Android SDK Manager.
Edit: I also installed Mantano Reader on the HD+. To add epub books to the HD+ via Dropbox, you need to EXPORT them to the My Files section of your internal sd card (didnt test using an external card). If you just open an epub file via dropbox, it will launch the reader app, but I found that once I closed the reader app, I couldnt access the book again (must have put it in temporary storage or in downloads). So the better way to gets books on the HD+ via dropbox is to export them. And after installing Mantano Reader, when I browse to Library -> My Files and tap one of my books, the device asks me which reader I want to open the book in. So once you install a 3rd party epub reader, you could make it the default reader on the HD+ if you so desire.
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how did you get adb to recognize your device? can you post a guide on how you did that?
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If you want a new device forum then you're not going to be heard posting in here. You need to go over to the ***New Device Forum Requests*** thread in About xda-developers.com forum and make a request.
Good luck.
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Thanks for the advice! Just posted a request. Hopefully we can get at the least a rudimentary root and gapps port on this thing soon.
Hello all and merry Christmas,
I am really interested in getting a nook ereader and I would like to known which is the best one to get for rooting? Im leaning towards the nook simple touch glowlight i like the feel of the back and the fact that it is lighter than the simple touch and has page turn buttons unlike the glowlight.
I also have a question regarding apps, I want the nook to use aldiko and pocket for reading books and articles. I notices many threads talking about the fact that you need modded apks to run on the nook. So my question is how do those apps run (aldiko and pocket) since these will be the main apps I use it is important that they run well I prefer the ereader to any tablet as I would be using it before I sleep. I appriciate any imput thanks in advance
Hello,
Aldiko does work. It will even open Barnes and Noble books. Ypou do not need to hack applications to run on the nooks, you just need to find versions which are useable.
The last version of Aldiko I found (I only searched for a second) which works is 2.0.1. The buttons do not turn the pages out of the box, but I bet you could get them to work.
As for pocket, it would need to be hacked because it came out after android 2.1. However, read it later should work. It is a stripped down version from the same company (actually, it was the predecessor).
The other issue is fonts and animations. Animations do not work well on this type of screen. And fonts are easier to read if they are actually black on white or vice versa. This is not an issue with Aldiko as IIT allows custom fonts, but could be for read it later.
Finally, know that there is a new net with glowlight and it seems the rooting may not be as easy as the other nooks. Poke around in the boards here to find more about that issue.
Good luck,
~Leko
Go forth and work toward your salvation with diligence.
lekofraggle said:
Hello,
Aldiko does work. It will even open Barnes and Noble books. Ypou do not need to hack applications to run on the nooks, you just need to find versions which are useable.
The last version of Aldiko I found (I only searched for a second) which works is 2.0.1. The buttons do not turn the pages out of the box, but I bet you could get them to work.
As for pocket, it would need to be hacked because it came out after android 2.1. However, read it later should work. It is a stripped down version from the same company (actually, it was the predecessor).
The other issue is fonts and animations. Animations do not work well on this type of screen. And fonts are easier to read if they are actually black on white or vice versa. This is not an issue with Aldiko as IIT allows custom fonts, but could be for read it later.
Finally, know that there is a new net with glowlight and it seems the rooting may not be as easy as the other nooks. Poke around in the boards here to find more about that issue.
Good luck,
~Leko
Go forth and work toward your salvation with diligence.
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ok thanks man I dont think the animation thing will be a problem
Hiya,
I have some old Android tablets lying around, two of which are Kindle Fires. I'd like to figure out some use for them.
One thought is making one connected all the time to a to-do list app (like Google Keep) and have that mounted on a wall. I'm curious if anyone has any suggestions and getting an extremely barebones ROM on a Kindle Fire, but with the ability to login to Google and use up-to-date apps like Google Keep. Preferably it would be "pinned" that that app all the time. Wondering if there is a ROM that eliminates the launcher entirely and just goes to a single app (but with the ability to do full authentication with a Google account)
Thanks for any help!
This probably could be done - like you say, we'd need to have a non-stock rom that could utilize the tablet features of the kindle instead of the reader features.
I like the idea a lot!
I'll see what I can dig up, since I also have this tablet and would like to do that as well.