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[Q] What do I lose with CM7 over BN stock or autonooter?

CM7 looks amazing! From what I see, with CM7, we use an app for reading vs stock. This seems like it could be a perk as notes and highlights would then be 'in the cloud' and not on the device?
I see the Kindle App, which I need as well as access to the market.
For those who have used both autonooter and CM7, is there anything I might miss that CM7 doesn't include? (Not trying to be negative, just wanting to be educated before making the leap )
Our primary use of Nook is for reading, but because BN doesn't have all the books we need, I rooted to gain access to the Kindle store.
Is CM7 permanent? Can I go back to stock/autonooter if we don't like it?
I've seen a few issues about battery life...has that been resolved in current updates?
Thanks for your help!

i think the question is what do you gain with cm7 -
first you get access to the markets, and while you lose the ability to read native nook magazines - it is far outweighed by among other things..
- flash playback for websites and video
- tablet like status bar with navigation
- bluetooth support for gps and/or BT keyboards
- fast snappy performance with overclocks
- augment your experience with 2.2 based apps TVSHow stream for watching past TV shows, PlayOn for streaming hulu, netflix to your nook via your home pc, MegaViewer Pro for catching a number of streaming movies off the net
- location based apps like geodelic, zagat, aloqa
CM7 can be installed into your internal memory for better performance or to an SD card - if you are unsure you can always install it to an sD card so when you want to go back to stock/autonootered, just pop out the SD card and reboot. As for me i installed internally and never looked back

What do you lose? as far as I know the only lost thing is proper sleep mode which results in only a 4-5 day standby battery life on CM7 over the multi-week standby on stock.

I'm not 100% certain since I haven't tested it myself yet, but you probably will lose access to the perks/certificates/coupons you would normally get when you connect to the internet using a Nook at a Barnes & Noble store.

You will lose:
- kids books
- magazines
- the library interface
- "read in store" feature
- "lend me" feature
Basically, the custom ROM turns your nook into a generic non-B&N tablet from B&N's perspective.
Given the excellent design of the nook's boot up setup making it nearly unbrickable, I would guess that there will always be some route back to stock via a CWM image or the original recovery. But once you go "all in" one direction or another (i.e. buying apps from B&N and locking yourself into their market or setting up a custom CM7 home/apps, etc), I'd guess you'll want to stay that way for a while.
I'm currently on the fence. I like the stock reader and library a lot and do not own any kindle books. I'm currently playing around with CM7 on SD card waiting for 1.2 root/noot but may stay with rooted 1.2 when it becomes available since I like B&N's library app and read in store features so much.
If it looks like 1.2 can't be autonootered, I will install CM7 and never look back, though. Market/root is more important than anything else for me.

First off, sorry for the hijack but I want to know and its not far off topic...
I read something somewhere that cm7 can be booted via sd and when the sd is out/a non cm sd is in it will boot completely stock bn nc? So kids books can be used and magazines and all the bn stuff for my wife and I can throw a cm7 sd in and go to cm7 when I want?
zenaxe said:
You will lose:
- kids books
- magazines
- the library interface
- "read in store" feature
- "lend me" feature
Basically, the custom ROM turns your nook into a generic non-B&N tablet from B&N's perspective.
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the5ifty said:
First off, sorry for the hijack but I want to know and its not far off topic...
I read something somewhere that cm7 can be booted via sd and when the sd is out/a non cm sd is in it will boot completely stock bn nc? So kids books can be used and magazines and all the bn stuff for my wife and I can throw a cm7 sd in and go to cm7 when I want?
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That is correct. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957

The big loser is battery life. Especially on standby. I never really used stock Nook much. But I'm trying to give the 1.2 update a fare shake, and I must say, the standby difference is quite noticable. After 6 hours of standy on stock, I am still at 98%. If I was on CM7, I would probably be at 91%. The difference ends up being how often you charge, which results in how long your battery will last over the life of the device.
That said, CM7 is great, and as long as you have a cooperative SD card, it runs great right off the SD just look for the size agnostic SD installer thread here and give it a try-- there really is no harm to try as long as you can follow the steps. Its good fun, and the only thing I think it needs is better standy time.

Also op, you can transfer kindle books directly to nook. Just put them in books folder. I have tons of books not from b&n on my nook.
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Well, I installed CM7 on one of our nooks last night and it is soooo different!
A few things I 'miss' initially:
BN Stock Library Shelves - the app just has them in one list. It can be sorted by author, which helps, but I liked my shelves.
Angry Birds - Can not figure out how to get it working.
I'm not a big fan of all the 'phone' references/apps either. I'm still learning and their may be a work-around for the last 2 issues.
That's all for now. I may try Phiremod's on my next nook.

Just Rooted my NC and have some Qs

I currently have Cyanogen7 on my nook color and it looks amazing so far, but I have a few questions that will ultimately decide whether I keep it rooted or revert it back to normal.
1.) How do I read all my books? I downloaded the Nook for Android app and I see how to read all the books I downloaded but I don't know how I can read the books that I have from my previous e-book collection that I have on my computer. I don't even know how to connect the nook to my computer because the cord is plugged in but nothing is showing on my computer. This is the most important question for me because I have about 500 books that I didn't get from BN and if I can't read those then this is worthless to me. I'm sure there's a way I just don't know how.
2.) How do I put Gameboy and NES emulators/ROMs on it? Can I put the ones off of my computer on there or do I have to download them off the market.
I guess the biggest thing for me is not knowing how to make it show up on my computer. If you can help me with that then that'd be great. Thanks!
Edit: If I have to go back to nooter then that's fine, because with that I still have all the stock BN apps and stuff like that, but if there's a way to do that on the Cyanogen then that'd be awesome. Again, thanks.

Not sure about the books, but to connect to computer, after you plug it in, a notification will come up in the bar, when you swipe up it will say "USB connected" or something to that effect. if you press on that, a screen will come up that allows you to mount it.
You will need to download Android specific emulators, but the same roms that work on your computer should work in an android nes/snes emulator.
EDIT: reread your post. If you mount the SD card through the usb cable, you should be able to put your ebooks somewhere and read them with an e-reader, i don't know if the nook app will do it, but i use alkido for all of mine.

I found how to hook it up right after I posted, but thanks anyways. So you use a different app for reading? Is it free and does it support ePub? And I'll have to look into emulators a little more when I get home. But do you know if I'll have to pay for them? I'd rather not but don't mind dishing out 5-10 bucks for two emulators if I can at least put my own roms on it.
I'm really excited about all the possibilities with my nook being rooted now but I still love to read and that is my primary concern ATM.

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I found how to hook it up right after I posted, but thanks anyways. So you use a different app for reading? Is it free and does it support ePub? And I'll have to look into emulators a little more when I get home. But do you know if I'll have to pay for them? I'd rather not but don't mind dishing out 5-10 bucks for two emulators if I can at least put my own roms on it.
I'm really excited about all the possibilities with my nook being rooted now but I still love to read and that is my primary concern ATM.
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Alkido is a neat e-reader app, its free and has a nice UI, it does accept e-pubs.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.aldiko.android
As for the emulators, some guy had a bunch of decent emulators, that were recently pulled from the market, he violated the GPL and put a bunch of open source emulators in a java casing and sold them as his own. You may be able to find them around the place somewhere.

frownifdown said:
I found how to hook it up right after I posted, but thanks anyways. So you use a different app for reading? Is it free and does it support ePub? And I'll have to look into emulators a little more when I get home. But do you know if I'll have to pay for them? I'd rather not but don't mind dishing out 5-10 bucks for two emulators if I can at least put my own roms on it.
I'm really excited about all the possibilities with my nook being rooted now but I still love to read and that is my primary concern ATM.
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If u love to read like me ...u might want cool reader as well as it supports HTML mobi PDf....also when i downloaded the nook app it automatically synched all my books to the app once I signed in with my b&n account...I even still get my magizines...I run on cm7 as well...also make sure to buy root explorer off the market...you can use it to access anything u have in the emmc storage (books u have on nook...they are still there...but like I said they already synced with the market app...at least that's how it all worked for me.....enjoy cm7... its awesome...I never looked back to stock and I'm a reader.(.PSu now have a kindle as well!!)...

Mainly, an answer to your emulator question.
Everyone seems to have addressed the usb problem. All you have to do is pull up the notification bar and turn on usb storage. From there you could just transfer your book files onto the nook (I'm assuming your books are on your computer). For the emulators, yonghz has amazing apps that recently got pulled from the market. He transferred them over to SlideMe.com. I can't post links yet but just go to google and type in "slideme yonghz" and the first link will be the link you want. I'm using Snesoid right now and it works great!

CM7/CM9 Nook APP - Reading Magazines

Hello all,
I know this has been discussed a lot but I can't seem to find a clear and final answer and I'm confused about one or two things. I have multiple magazine subscriptions that I can read just fine with the stock 1.4.1 NC software. I am currently running a CM9 nightly and would completely abandon the stock software on the emmc if I could get my magazines to work on the Nook Android App, but I cannot.
Has anyone found a fix for this? I have hear about Aldiko and I downloaded the app, but I am not sure how to proceed from there. Where are my magazines stored? Can Aldiko read them? I'm confused.
If anyone has any advice or a workaround I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you!

It is not hard to do the only challenge is that the magazine names are not given. Just use file manager to look in the B&N Downloads/Magazines on the nook hard drive (emmc/B&N Downloads/Magazines) click on the file and choose Aldiko to complete action.
As I said the problem is the magazine names are not there just file names which are numbers. I do not have a work around for that but at least I did not have to mess with DRM.

Thanks but I just checked in that folder and it was empty. Any idea why?
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It is not hard to do the only challenge is that the magazine names are not given. Just use file manager to look in the B&N Downloads/Magazines on the nook hard drive (emmc/B&N Downloads/Magazines) click on the file and choose Aldiko to complete action.
As I said the problem is the magazine names are not there just file names which are numbers. I do not have a work around for that but at least I did not have to mess with DRM.
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A bit off topic but not really...
I've been using the Zinio app for all of my magazines on all of my devices (android, apple, pc). I love it since it let's me read my mags on any device I may be using at the moment.

I looked into Zinio but the difference is that I get my Nook magazines free if I also have the print subscription, which Zinio does not offer. I would really love to read my nook magazines on CM...

Hey,
It depends on the magazine. Download the nook app, don't know if it works on CM9, and try to access the books from the nook app. Wired magazine did not work for me but Everyday Food did. YMMV.

I get Analog and Asimov's, and they work very well on my CM9 NC with the Nook app. These mags changed the format this month to something called "Article View™", but I haven't decided whether I like it or not. I've been using Aldiko for most reading, however, much more presentation control.
Download the Nook app from B&N while running CM7 or 9 and re-download the stuff you've purchased. What problems are you running into?
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Go to the B&N site and look up each magazine. If it works on Nook for Android it will say so. If it only shows Nook Color & Nook Tablet you are out of luck.

Thank you everyone for your help. The magazines I have are tablet/color only so they won't work. I have EW and the New Yorker through Next Issue and I actually just got Wired magazine by finding the Kindle Fire Wired apk and installing it on my CM9 Nook, works pretty well (setup was a pain in the ass though).

[Q] What should a Newbie Nooker Do?

I was able to get a great deal on a Nook Glowlight. It's coming in the mail soon. I'm trying to get prepared.
I have an Android phone, and an HP Touchpad. I'm looking at using my e-reader as an e-reader and not as a tablet or phone substitute.
1. Should I root using Glownooter or should I root using minimal root?
I don't want to add Gapps to my Nook because I won't need anything other than a source for APKs. I'm okay with sideloading apks. (For purchased apps, I can backup the APK file on my rooted phone with Titanium and restore it on my Nook, right?)
2. I will be putting Amazon Kindle 3.2 and FBReader+FBSync on. Are there any other e-readers I should consider?
2. Aside from e-reader apps, what do most people put on their tablets?
I already plan on adding a web browser, file manager, Dropbox, and Titanium Backup. What else is recommended?
3. For complex PDFs, what app is recommended?

IBNobody said:
1. Should I root using Glownooter or should I root using minimal root?
I don't want to add Gapps to my Nook because I won't need anything other than a source for APKs. I'm okay with sideloading apks. (For purchased apps, I can backup the APK file on my rooted phone with Titanium and restore it on my Nook, right?)
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The only real nooter for Glow is the Glownooter, but it does have Gapps and the such, what you could do is open up the zip for Glownooter and remove all the Gapps related stuff from /system
IBNobody said:
2. I will be putting Amazon Kindle 3.2 and FBReader+FBSync on. Are there any other e-readers I should consider?
2. Aside from e-reader apps, what do most people put on their tablets?
I already plan on adding a web browser, file manager, Dropbox, and Titanium Backup. What else is recommended?
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I imagine with a regular tablet people install their games and video players and the such, but since the screen isn't setup for a refresh rate decent for videos, and it has no sound, it's unlikely that any of those types of things would work nicely with the Glowworm.
One of the ereaders I've heard works well is called Cool Reader, but I personally use the built in reader and have never bothered with anything else.
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3. For complex PDFs, what app is recommended?
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ezPDF it works wonderfully for PDFs and supports Landscape/Portrait modes, along with special "zoomed reading" mode where it'll zoom in around the text blocks which I personally think makes it easier to read/navigate PDFs.

IBNobody said:
[...] 2. I will be putting Amazon Kindle 3.2 and FBReader+FBSync on. Are there any other e-readers I should consider?
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I recommend Mantano Reader for both epub and PDF formats. It works well on the NST, and handles both formats very well. I have completely replaced the NOOK Library with the Mantano home screen, and the NOOK Reader with Mantano's reader. I like viewing covers for both formats on one screen.
2. Aside from e-reader apps, what do most people put on their tablets?
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Other than reading, mine's mostly set up to allow quick checks of work stuff when I'm on the road. I put on email (maildroid, which handles MS Exchange well), calendar (Calendar Pad) and Astrid Tasks, plus a few other travel programs (TripIt, mainly). Evernote for synchronized notes with my various computers. Google Voice to read transcriptions of voice mail. I use Dropsync to pull down daily newspaper and magazine feeds I have my desktop generate daily using Calibre, then import them into Mantano. I use ES File Explorer (nice Dropbox and other cloud integration). Folder Organizer lets me set up quick access menus on the notification menu for often-used programs. Nook Touch Tools to remap QuickMenu to show Mantano, maildroid, calendar pad, astrid and dropsync.
[...] 3. For complex PDFs, what app is recommended?
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Mantano is definitely worth a look. I like that it maintains page zooms between pages, so I don't have to fiddle with each page.

Thank you both.
I have a copy of ezPDF Pro from Amazon's FAOTD that I can try out on the Nook.
I'll try out CoolReader and Mantano, too. But the two biggest sellers of FBReader is the FBSync synchronization feature and the ability to remap FBReader page-turn keys with an XML file on the SDCard. Will those other two readers let me flip pages with the side buttons?

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[...] I have a copy of ezPDF Pro from Amazon's FAOTD that I can try out on the Nook.
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I also have ezPDF, and quite liked it. I just prefer using Mantano as one reader than can display and read my entire (pdf and epub) library in one app.
I'll try out CoolReader and Mantano, too. But the two biggest sellers of FBReader is the FBSync synchronization feature
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Mantano offers a cloud service, but it's not free. I've gone for the $20/year 5 GB, 2000 title option that lets me sync among 4 devices. In addition to reading positions, it also syncs categories, metadata and tags, which I find useful.
I've read good things about FBReader and will try their sync option someday. As I recall, it didn't handle some of my document formatting as well.
Will those other two readers let me flip pages with the side buttons?
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Mantano will, yes.
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Some tips on battery life:
The NST can maintain very good battery life if you stick to your "primarily a reader" philosophy. In particular, avoid anything that polls in the background. While I do use maildroid, I have it set to only poll manually. I don't have any sort of background sync running (e.g. facebook, newsfeeds). No widgets.
I do have Tasker set up to wake the device once daily and force a sync with Dropsync to download my Calibre-generated news from Dropbox. I also have Tasker set to only enable wifi when a short list of specific apps runs (e.g. maildroid). Wifi is shut off when the screen goes off. I enable wifi manually for things like reader sync that I only do occasionally.
While I haven't done any scientific testing, my battery life seems as good as on a non-rooted device. I recently left my NST on my coffee table unplugged when I left town for a week, and on my return, it was still at 90%.
Being on older Android 2.1 Eclair, the NST will benefit from a task manager. I tried a few, including Advanced Task Manager, but I finally settled on System Tuner Pro. I get very few warning messages now (< 1 daily), and no memory problems. I have it set to only kill tasks when the screen goes off, and when actually low on memory using the "Light" preset. I have it ignore Mantano and Tasker.
With these settings, I haven't had any particular problems with the Google stuff loaded. If I don't use it, it doesn't affect battery life. I did freeze Gmail since I just don't like it.

tinynooter works on the glow, also. (and on the NST without the glowlight.)
If you're comfortable sideloading apk files via adb either glownooter or tinynooter will do the trick. Once you're shelled in over adb, you need to su to get an adb root shell - most of the time I'm ssh'ing into my device in any case
What tinynooter doesn't do is install any of the google apps, a modified framework or kernel - it's very much the base device but with root rights. For convenience the Amazon appstore is on board.
I'm curious what makes a nooter and what does not? I'd been thinking that nooter was a generic term for 'nook rooter?'

If you've got a glow nook, my advice to you as one newbie to another is to WAIT. There is almost no newbie support for the glow nook as I rather unfortunately discovered today. Even if you've rooted an android device before, the odds are slim that you've ever side-loaded an apk and there is not a guide to be found on this forum for the GlowLight. Not that it matters, because adb won't pick up a rooted glowlight. Additionally, do -not- try to install norefresh or multitouch.
I'm restoring my glow nook to factory tomorrow morning myself and just waiting it out. Besides, using it unrooted for awhile will help you figure out what you do and don't want out of a rooted device (for example you -are- going to need a separate pdf reader, but it might turn out that everything you read on your nook will already be .epub or easily converted to .epub).

For IRC, AndChat works excellent.
http://www.andchat.net/index.php
Mini vMac If you are a mac person, this is something to check out. I bought the paid version and unlike the free version, the paid one conforms to the screen resolution perfectly on the nook.
http://dolfin.github.com/minivmac4android/
Bacon reader-
http://baconreader.com/
It's not necessarily newb stuff, just some things I put on mine for fun that work quite well

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For IRC, AndChat works excellent.
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I dunno how well it works on NST, but on the glowlight, AndChat has a problem with autoscrolling unless you manually clear your buffer every few lines.

AndChat is good on my non-glow nook. I don't have any scrolling issues. I really really want a glow nook but I guess from what I read here, not everything is sorted out yet.

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If you've got a glow nook, my advice to you as one newbie to another is to WAIT. There is almost no newbie support for the glow nook as I rather unfortunately discovered today. Even if you've rooted an android device before, the odds are slim that you've ever side-loaded an apk and there is not a guide to be found on this forum for the GlowLight. Not that it matters, because adb won't pick up a rooted glowlight. Additionally, do -not- try to install norefresh or multitouch.
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What's wrong with norefresh please ?

a few handy APKs for rooted Nook Glowlight

So after several hours of hacking away at it, I never was able to successfully connect to the glowlight via ADB over USB but after uncommenting the line in the init.rc about adb on port 5555 I was able to connect over wifi. It turns out after doing some digging around in the system that the Glowlight is running the ANCIENT and Android 2.1 "Eclair" and getting usable apps for it is going to prove challenging unless some rocket scientist can figure out how to get a GAPPS pack flashed onto this.
Anyway, it took me some digging but I was able to find an old Cyanogenmod 5 build to grab some APKs from. I wasn't able to install ADW launcher or the stock 2.1 launcher, but I was able to get Launcher Pro running.
EDIT 8/20/14
Added working ADW Launcher. Will be adding Aldiko, Adobe Reader, Amazon Kindle App, Root Explorer, Busybox and a few others later.
And last but not least, I was able to install an older version of the Kindle app, so now my wife has access to both her Nook books and her Kindle books (came to the Nook from 1st generation Kindle). Next I'll probably throw Adobe and Aldiko on there just to get all the bases covered.

Well, if the system is the same, as in the Nook Simple Touch with Glowlight, then list of working apps from this post may be helpful: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49470538&postcount=1 . And, if I remember correctly, Kindle app needs an active internet connection to work properly. It may be more convenient to download them, and open in FBReader or AlReader (they both work well with .mobi files). I do not know if there would or would not be any Amazon file protection issues though. I do not shop there.

thrackanomir said:
Well, if the system is the same, as in the Nook Simple Touch with Glowlight, then list of working apps from this post may be helpful: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49470538&postcount=1 . And, if I remember correctly, Kindle app needs an active internet connection to work properly. It may be more convenient to download them, and open in FBReader or AlReader (they both work well with .mobi files). I do not know if there would or would not be any Amazon file protection issues though. I do not shop there.
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Kindle requires an active internet connection to download books just like the Nook software, but once they are on the device you're good to go. That list of apps is hardly useful though, because it doesn't have any LINKS! just a list of junk software this guy installed onto his nook.

N00b-un-2 said:
That list of apps is hardly useful though, because it doesn't have any LINKS! just a list of junk software this guy installed onto his nook.
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Well... It is not so hard to google those apps you need. And it is not "just a list of junk software". It is a list of apps versions that do work on NST.

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Well... It is not so hard to google those apps you need. And it is not "just a list of junk software". It is a list of apps versions that do work on NST.
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the point is that this device is running a version of Android that is officially well past EOL and most of those apps are REALLY difficult to find anymore. My point is that the user has the apps on his device, so why not do a simple 'adb pull /data/app/' and save us all some trouble. No amount of Googling is going to locate that which doesn't exist anymore. Since nobody else seems to care, I took it upon myself to do exactly that and throw these apps up here for others to use.