Looks like I'll be buggering off to the SGIII. - EVO 4G General

I was planning on using my upgrade (in July) to move to the Evo LTE, then HTC announced the non-removable battery. Since the SG3 is basically a wash on specs with the Evo LTE, but has a removable battery, I am going to end up using my upgrade to switch camps.
I just wanted to say thanks to all the devs who put in so much work on the beloved Evo OG. You guys really made this phone great and I know you don't get enough thanks or credit, just more demands from us.
Anyway, good luck to those of you who stick with HTC for the next two year merry-go-round.

yeah, i'm kinda pissed about the battery thing, too. any word on when sprint gets the s3? This is the latest i've seen, but no dates given: http://easternmorningherald.com/sprint-carry-samsung-galaxy-s3/126251/

wash in specs??
i think its spec wise its pretty damn in line with the evo lte. dual core, big ol camera, nice screen, ics, . (btw not a flame just trying to understand because i think the evo lte is def on the top of the android pile for the time being of course )

ben.nesheim said:
wash in specs??
i think its spec wise its pretty damn in line with the evo lte. dual core, big ol camera, nice screen, ics, . (btw not a flame just trying to understand because i think the evo lte is def on the top of the android pile for the time being of course )
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A "wash" means they even out.
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Is having a removable battery that much more important than the million times better development support the LTE will get?
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I agree with the battery thing, I feel like its taking away my independence that I have right now with the OG. I take comfort in knowing I can bring along a spare battery or 2 on day trip where I'll be away from a power supply. I'm still weighing my options, right now that's the only turn off with the LTE. We'll see, I'm not in a rush.
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You know you can buy rechargeable charge cells, and if your battery dies, you can pull it outta your pocket and plug it in your phone for a fast fix.
Also, so far, people are reporting pretty damn good battery life on the lte
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scottspa74 said:
You know you can buy rechargeable charge cells, and if your battery dies, you can pull it outta your pocket and plug it in your phone for a fast fix.
Also, so far, people are reporting pretty damn good battery life on the lte
sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
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That won't solve the problem of the battery losing charge capacity over time. the way that I use my phone, my batteries lose about 50% of their charge capacity by one year. So I've already replaced two batteries on my Evo OG (most recently in December with another 3500mah Seido brick battery). Being unable to replace a battery means that over that stupid 2 year contract, I will get less and less use time from my phone, and more time on the charger.
So, yes, not having a removable (replaceable really) battery is a really big deal for me. I was also going to miss the kickstand, but I since learned that most case manufacturers have cases with kickstands build in.
The biggest unknown for me is how good the SG devs are. From what I've seen in the SGSIII subforum, it looks promising.

I have two reservations about the LTE:
1) I got the OG with hopes of using Sprint's 4G network. Turns out, it wasn't yet available in my area when I got the phone, but they promised it would be soon. Now that Sprint has abandoned WiMax, I can only use 4G when I go downtown. Who is to say that the same scam won't happen with LTE? What if Sprint jumps ship the second another new technology comes along?
2) The battery IS a big issue for me as well. As a chronic ROM flasher, what am I supposed to do when I experience the inevitable crash or freeze that requires a battery pull to restart the phone? Am I really supposed to just wait for the battery to die before I can get on my phone again? No, thanks.

So.. yeah the battery thing is REALLY an issue.. I just found out about that reading this thread..
Any who.. can't I just stick w my evo now n wait for someone to mess w a ROM that picks up 4g lte?? I don't know how all this junk works.. NOOB.. but I had a HTC hd2 which I THINK was only 3g.. flashed an android ROM n was able to pick up 4g on it.. then flashed an ICS ROM on it, 4g n other cool junk..
I'm pretty happy w my evo now.. so I'm just playing the waiting game until someone pushes out a FULL working ICS ROM.. I'm on sprint now so 4g is so much better than T-Mobile.. I guess ill deal w the lte issue when I really have to..
Anyone care to enlighten me some more??
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kingme23 said:
Is having a removable battery that much more important than the million times better development support the LTE will get?
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yes it is and sammy has a ton of development support with some pretty heavy hitters also or do you just not know or care?
ropodope
you WANT this ROM, you NEED this ROM, but maybe you can't HANDLE this ROM.

Delayed by quality control issues already Probably won't be an issue by time it gets here, just thought I'd share.
http://eurodroid.com/2012/05/29/samsung-confirms-blue-galaxy-s-iii-delay-due-to-quality-standards/

Traceamount said:
Delayed by quality control issues already Probably won't be an issue by time it gets here, just thought I'd share.
http://eurodroid.com/2012/05/29/samsung-confirms-blue-galaxy-s-iii-delay-due-to-quality-standards/
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at least it shows they care about quality control.
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you WANT this ROM, you NEED this ROM, but maybe you can't HANDLE this ROM.

Duolos said:
I have two reservations about the LTE:
1) I got the OG with hopes of using Sprint's 4G network. Turns out, it wasn't yet available in my area when I got the phone, but they promised it would be soon. Now that Sprint has abandoned WiMax, I can only use 4G when I go downtown. Who is to say that the same scam won't happen with LTE? What if Sprint jumps ship the second another new technology comes along?
2) The battery IS a big issue for me as well. As a chronic ROM flasher, what am I supposed to do when I experience the inevitable crash or freeze that requires a battery pull to restart the phone? Am I really supposed to just wait for the battery to die before I can get on my phone again? No, thanks.
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Think about what he said in 2), I bet this crossed a few of the minds over at HTC as well. Not saying this is the main reason for the non removable battery, but I'm all but sure it was thought about.
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I got you guys Source
This was JUST pushed out – you’re among the first to know @ 10:45 AM
On 6/21 Samsung Galaxy S III launches in all channels with access to the Sprint 4G LTE network.
Samsung Galaxy S III will be offered in a 16GB version for $199.99 and 32GB version for $249.99
Pre-order begins June 5 atwww.sprint.com/galaxysiii.
Feature rich
Samsung Galaxy S III is designed to deliver at 4G LTE speeds. Features include:
Android™ 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich
1.5GHz dual-core processor
2GB of RAM
2 cameras – 8-megapixel rear-facing zero shutter-lag camera with LED flash, 1080p video capture, intelligent camera features and facial recognition and a 1.9-megapixel front-facing camera
New features include:
S Voice™ is the advanced natural language user interface that enables search and basic device-user communication.
Motion simplifies the user experience by understanding the motion of the user. If the user is messaging but decides to call the person instead, they simply lift the phone to the ear and ‘Direct Call’ will dial the phone number.
Smart Stay uses facial recognition technology and the front-facing camera to identify the user’s eyes.
Sharing gets easier
Samsung Galaxy S III takes sharing media to a new level by making it fasy and easy.
S Beam expands on Android Beam™ to enhance device-to-device sharing through NFC technology.
AllShare® Playallows users to wirelessly connect Galaxy S III to their PC, tablet or television to immediately share files, stream music, user-generated videos, photos and other DRM-free content to AllShare-enabled devices using Wi-Fi®.
AllShare Group Cast lets the user share a presentation or photo album in real time with multiple friends on the same Wi-Fi network.
Share Shot allows photos to be easily and simultaneously shared with a group of friends directly from the camera using device-to-device Wi-Fi Direct.
Pricing and Plans:
Sprint offers Samsung Galaxy S III with:
16 GB Internal Memory Net Price for $199.99 (excluding taxes)
32 GB Internal Memory Net Price for $249.99 (excluding taxes)
Requirements:
A new line or eligible upgrade and 2-year service agreement.
Activation on one of the Sprint Everything Data plans plus a required $10 Premium Data add-on charge for smartphones.
The Sprint Mobile Hotspot feature will be available as an add-on.

Chirpout said:
Think about what he said in 2), I bet this crossed a few of the minds over at HTC as well. Not saying this is the main reason for the non removable battery, but I'm all but sure it was thought about.
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Well to answer your second question, when you go into a loop like i did Saturday (installed the recovery incorrectly) you just hold the the power button and it will power down and i was able to get back to fastboot to reinstall it.
I'm happy with the LTE and I'm sure you guys will enjoy the SIII
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Development on this device should be second to none.

I was going to get one of these phones but since LTE is not coming out for a while I decided to pickup a slightly used Epic Touch 4G so that I can still have the Wimax speeds and wait until LTE is rolled out in my area to pickup an LTE phone. By then there may be other phones out or at least more used ones available for sale. By then I will also be able to view forum posts and see development progess on both of these phones before I purchase.

Raistlin1 said:
I was going to get one of these phones but since LTE is not coming out for a while I decided to pickup a slightly used Epic Touch 4G so that I can still have the Wimax speeds and wait until LTE is rolled out in my area to pickup an LTE phone. By then there may be other phones out or at least more used ones available for sale. By then I will also be able to view forum posts and see development progess on both of these phones before I purchase.
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Haha same here man, that's why I'm kinda my upgrade isn't till next year, but that's also a little sad, but I'll be happy to get reviews from evo users
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Pre-ordered my SGS3 today with the (bad) assumption that Sprint will light-up the Atlanta LTE sites in sync with this product roll out.
I'll report back after I use it for a while.

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One more day left..

For my Sprint 30 day guarantee. Tomorrow is the last day I can return my Evo and walk away without a termination fee. Im coming from Tmobile and have used just about all their phones and all iphones, and the Evo holds its own. I love the screen size, and its build quality. But the main thing ive liked is the 3g coverage, its no where near as fast as Tmobile in my area, but i do alot of highway driving and get 1mb plus everywhere. With Tmobile once i started getting away from the city it would drop to edge. I guess ill go play with tmobiles new Mytouch 4g and make my decision there. I just sold the g2 i had which i hated, but I still own my Vibrant and iphone 4 so i could always go back.
But so far what I Like:
Screen size!!!!!
Build quality!
Dual Flash
3g Coverage
Development support.
What I dont like:
Super amoled looks wayy better.
3g is slower but still fine (Evo= 1mb+ to Vibrant=5mb downloads)
Graphics Suck. Live wallpaper slows it down, and 3d gaming is barely playable
Sprints Customer service is no where near as good as Tmobiles.
Oh yeah after a talk with sprints retention departmnet, They waived my actication fee, and provided me with a credit of $50 since I mentioned the Evo could be acquired online for $150, just in order to keep my service. And right at the end when I mentioned I would continue to think about it, the rep offered me a $10 credit every month for the rest of the contract (24months). This would kick in on my next billing cycle.
My 27% discount would also kick in next bill, making my total bill $50 plus tax which is still a little more than if id return to tmobile
Kinda hard to argue with those discounts, not a bad deal right there.
But I can't understand how you like AMOLED screens more, YUCK! They always look odd to me, too blue or too vibrant and kind of pixel-y? They are more readable in some situations but still I think they look awful.
Not gonna lie... i really like the new myTouch. I am a fan of sense... also, hspa+ rocks in my area, and gsm is easier on battery than cdma. Add to that our wimax radios... lol, still love my evo though...
Is say they earned your business, man that makes me think I need to complain more..lol
The ten dollars off every month would more then compensate for the cost of the phone its self.
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After having the Evo I just dont see how i can ever own anything smaller than a 4.3in screen. Ill more than likely stick with The evo untill sprint or another carrier releases a highend 4.3in that isnt lock down. I do love the phone, just wished it could handle graphics better.
With the discounts im getting and the coolness of the Evo ill probably stick to Sprint for now unless the mytouch4g blows me away, which at 3.8in I dont think it will.
Now the Nexus S/2 could be interesting.
I was happy getting a 23% discount from --removed by mod--
I am also of the opinion that you have way too much time on your hands. For someone who is trying to drive their price down to nothing, you sure have a lot of the more recent phones, that you clearly could have sold to make up for any cost of having a phone in general.
While I am also a former T-mo customer, I gave them my money for 10 years, but honestly I don't think they are offering the best phones this year. As for plans, everyone I know can't touch my 4G speeds. As for customer service, I think Sprint has done a pretty good job with you.
If your just here to get attention, then I'd recommend moving on to the (Insert Next Best Phone Name) forum. The EVO on Sprint 4G clearly is the winner. If you don't have 4G then I can understand your dilemma, but still I highly doubt that you have a T-mo Talk/Text/Data for less than $50. Hell, its probably not less than $70 if your including insurance on your phones.
Good luck.
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I was happy getting a 23% discount from --removed--.
I am also of the opinion that you have way too much time on your hands. For someone who is trying to drive their price down to nothing, you sure have a lot of the more recent phones, that you clearly could have sold to make up for any cost of having a phone in general.
While I am also a former T-mo customer, I gave them my money for 10 years, but honestly I don't think they are offering the best phones this year. As for plans, everyone I know can't touch my 4G speeds. As for customer service, I think Sprint has done a pretty good job with you.
If your just here to get attention, then I'd recommend moving on to the (Insert Next Best Phone Name) forum. The EVO on Sprint 4G clearly is the winner. If you don't have 4G then I can understand your dilemma, but still I highly doubt that you have a T-mo Talk/Text/Data for less than $50. Hell, its probably not less than $70 if your including insurance on your phones.
Good luck.
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First off, nothing wrong with having all the latest and greatest phones out, it's by far the best way to find out which phone you personally like best. If I could afford it I'd do it too.
Second, evo is hardly the winner. All phones have their downfalls and can be considered better than others in their own right.
My nexus can be considered better than your evo for a number of reasons.
1. Google owns android. Nexus is google's baby. It is also a developers phone.when android releases froyo, gingerbread, etc. who is the first to get it? Me. Have fun waiting months for yours to update, or for some samsung owners, possibly never.
2. I'm hitting 60 fps, enjoy your 30 fps. You may have a bigger screen but can't fully enjoy it. Playing 3d games on the evo is atrocious.
3. Sprints 4g service had been highly touted this I know. But recent testing done by cnet, which I consider highly reliable and non bias; shows in NY sprints 4g getting 2-3mb whereas tmobiles hspa+ getting 5-6mb and it's not even considered true 4g lol but it doubled sprints. Now of course mileage will very.
Don't get me wrong, evo is a great phone. it's like having a portable theater in your pocket. It took me about three weeks of intense research comparing top phones on all carriers to reach a decision. I was hesitant to get the nexus considering how old it is, released in january. But it still using the same processor as many off the newer phones including evo, the 1ghz snapdragon. Yes your chip has been updated but mines still faster lol. And I like using a developer phone and getting updates before anyone else. Some may consider updates not that big of deal but froyo increased browser speed up to 30%, not something I'd want to wait months for to enjoy.
Oh and I have to say I love the trackball. Comes in handy for selecting text or other tight spots while browsing. I can also have it blink different colors: red for missed text, blue for missed call, green for voicemail, orange for email, purple for low battery, works for notifications as well.
It's nice having all this information without even turning on my phone.
This is officially by far the longest thing I've typed out on my nexus, got to love swype lol.
The nexus one is outdated. No matter what you say. Gingerbread is rumored to come out Nov 11 and its main feature is an integtrated video chat app. Nexi don't have a front facing camera. So right there goggles baby will be handicapped with that feature. I love the nexus a year ago when it came out but data speeds aren't nothing to brag about especially if its a matter of seconds. I think the mytouch 4G is ugly, it has to much bezeling on the side. A trackball is not needed when you have a big a$$ screen. And super amoled screens have been known to burn-in the screens. All the features there's no other phone that has what the evo can offer.
Front facing camera
Kickstand
Unlockable
Sense (which is the next best thing to vanilla)
4g capable
Capacitive buttons
Skinny
Sexy looking phone
Your making a rant in the evo section , in perfectly happy with my evo. Of all the phones I've owned this is by the far the best. With features and functionality in account.
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The nexus one is outdated. No matter what you say. Gingerbread is rumored to come out Nov 11 and its main feature is an integtrated video chat app. Nexi don't have a front facing camera. So right there goggles baby will be handicapped with that feature. I love the nexus a year ago when it came out but data speeds aren't nothing to brag about especially if its a matter of seconds. I think the mytouch 4G is ugly, it has to much bezeling on the side. A trackball is not needed when you have a big a$$ screen. And super amoled screens have been known to burn-in the screens. All the features there's no other phone that has what the evo can offer.
Front facing camera
Kickstand
Unlockable
Sense (which is the next best thing to vanilla)
4g capable
Capacitive buttons
Skinny
Sexy looking phone
Your making a rant in the evo section , in perfectly happy with my evo. Of all the phones I've owned this is by the far the best. With features and functionality in account.
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Calm down no need to get your panties in a bunch. Only one ranting is yourself.
Yes the nexus has been out since jan that's already been stated. Thanks for that bit of info. But it still has the same processor as the evo, though an older version. Yet it is still overclocked much faster than your evo.
Front facing camera, unlockable (lol did you really list that?), htc sense (lol? Anyone can flash that), 4g, skinny (hardly, compared to other smart phones it's quiet bulky, hence the pocket theater)... All these features can be found on many phones...front facing camera is over rated I can do without. How many video calls have you made in the past month?
Trackball great for alerts I don't even have to turn on my phone to get notifications.
With that being said, I'm glad you are happy with your evo, enjoy
I actually use the front facing camera a lot. I chat with other evo and iPhone 4 users. Given the ratio its pretty thin. And what's wrong with using the same processor. You want a better processor then go to Samsung galaxy s series. Good luck with the gps on there tho. Humming bird processor blows everyone out of the water. When I mean unlockable I mean the boot loader is not on lock down. And not everyone phone can flash sense, DX or D2 can't. Which are the newer phones comparable to the evo. You were seriously contemplating leaving Sprint to go with t-mobile cause of data speeds in a restricted area. Kinda of ironic cause the only thing that you sound to be proud of on the nexus is the processor speed. Processor speed don't mean **** if you don't got 3G or WiFi connection. Edge sucks on tmo and ill take Sprints 3G even tho I have the same processor as your sexi Nexi.
Scoobasteves: Evo is just as fps unlocked as nexus, that's old news.
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I was happy getting a 23% discount from --evil site removed by mod --
I am also of the opinion that you have way too much time on your hands. For someone who is trying to drive their price down to nothing, you sure have a lot of the more recent phones, that you clearly could have sold to make up for any cost of having a phone in general.
While I am also a former T-mo customer, I gave them my money for 10 years, but honestly I don't think they are offering the best phones this year. As for plans, everyone I know can't touch my 4G speeds. As for customer service, I think Sprint has done a pretty good job with you.
If your just here to get attention, then I'd recommend moving on to the (Insert Next Best Phone Name) forum. The EVO on Sprint 4G clearly is the winner. If you don't have 4G then I can understand your dilemma, but still I highly doubt that you have a T-mo Talk/Text/Data for less than $50. Hell, its probably not less than $70 if your including insurance on your phones.
Good luck.
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Are you in a bad mood man? Geez.
First I never tried driving their price down, I called about possibly porting my number and what the process is. The rep was the one asking questions and was being cool about wanting me to stay. So he offered me a discount.
And yes it's cheaper for me to go back to tmobile even with my 27% sprint discount. We have had a family plan with tmobile for 8 years, so adding my line back would only be $5 and an additional $30 for Internet.
Maybe I do have to much time in my hands, but I've never complained about prices or tried to brag about my phone being the best. I understand there are always new phones coming out and thankfully I have had the ability to try out a lot of them. I just like phones and the evo is among the best I have liked, but far from being a clear cut winner. I'm not one of those guys that think my phone is the best in the world and out down every other phone, i like to try out a lot of different phones if I'm able to, and enjoy it.
I guess I'll just enjoy my Evo and it's awesome screen size.
T-Mobile is a dying company I think, they gotta step up their game. They have lost 25% of revenue compared to last year.
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T-Mobile is a dying company I think, they gotta step up their game. They have lost 25% of revenue compared to last year.
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Could be dying, maybe sprint will be dying too but if they keep releasing bad ass phones they should be fine
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Yeah I love the Evo probably one of the best phones I have used. I hear people complain that t-mo coverage is not that good in my area so that would be reason alone for me to stick with Sprint.
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Calm down no need to get your panties in a bunch. Only one ranting is yourself.
Yes the nexus has been out since jan that's already been stated. Thanks for that bit of info. But it still has the same processor as the evo, though an older version. Yet it is still overclocked much faster than your evo.
Front facing camera, unlockable (lol did you really list that?), htc sense (lol? Anyone can flash that), 4g, skinny (hardly, compared to other smart phones it's quiet bulky, hence the pocket theater)... All these features can be found on many phones...front facing camera is over rated I can do without. How many video calls have you made in the past month?
Trackball great for alerts I don't even have to turn on my phone to get notifications.
With that being said, I'm glad you are happy with your evo, enjoy
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Evo isn't restricted to 30fps anymore either
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Could be dying, maybe sprint will be dying too but if they keep releasing bad ass phones they should be fine
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Never, they have free mobile to mobile any company, unlimited web and text for great price, sprint rocks
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I was not trying to badger the OP. As a matter of fact I am a former T-mo customer and was very happy with it.
Is the reason your plan a T-mo is cheaper because you are on a family plan there and not a family plan at Sprint? If thats the case then its apples to oranges.
To the Nexus Guy. It was a very good phone and I was seriously considering it when it finally became available on a plan rate. But that didn't happen till AFTER the Evo came out. I was on the phone with T-mo monthly to find out when that would happen. They could never give me an answer. So I took the plunge and got the EVO and never looked back.
T-mo's HSPA in my area is garbage. Seven guys I work (in Tampa) with have the Galaxy, and all of them claim 2-4Mbps. I get regularly 6.5Mbps. It may get better, but it isn't right now.
Processor? Seriously dude? if thats all you got with the Nexus, then you need to sit down. Developers phone? Seriously? Ever heard of Root? Oh yeah... all of T-mo's new phones are getting lock down. FPS? Spend more time on XDA preeze. Sprint unlocked it about 2 months ago. XDA did it even longer.
Nexus is a beautiful thing. But I am sorry, it is inferior to the EVO in about every possible way.

Vibrant 4g out 2/23

Who all is going to be making the switch? Kind of excited!
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You will not be seeing me buy another Samsung phone ever again after purchasing the original Vibrant... Sound kind of redundant to say at this point but then again what else was a thread like this going to generate in these forums?..
I wont buy it. Only way I would touch another Samsung phone is if its bone stock android OR the Nexus S. Dont get me wrong, the phone itself is fantastic but the support behind it is the worst of any product I have ever owned. I would however buy a Nexus S just because its backed up by google and I know support will be great.
No i'm installing a ffc and tyring to unthrottle my data lol
I figured the responses would be close to this. I work at T-Mobile and am thinking about using one of my discounts to hold me over until the LG Optimus 2x drops. I just like that fact that the internet will be HSPA+ and with the help of Team Whiskey no lag lol. I don't know, I have the discounts available to me so I might as well use them right?
I won't buy it but not because I'm still seething mad at Samsung... I simply find it hard to justify the cost of a new phone without any sort of carrier discount for the few additional features it brings to the table. Besides, I trust in the Vibrant Dev team to successfully port what is released to the 4g to our version as necessary.
Hell no.
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If i had an upgrade available, id consider it....i love the vibrant, and i dont need samsung to hold my hand...they have an industry to keep up with, and its impossible to keep everybody happy.
xda is all the support i need
Thought about it, but ill prolly wait for that LG 2X...
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Thought about it, but ill prolly wait for that LG 2X...
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Nah. 4G is irrelevant, as 5mb down is plenty for me, not to mention all the speculation about the original vibrant being capable of 14.5mb down.
FFC is installable on Vibrant for $30, and hopefully when the 4G drops we can port a kernel supporting the FFC with no banding concerns. Like another guy said here, no point in buying the exact same phone with a couple extra mostly useless perks. If you have the tmo discount, try out a MT4G or something and if you don't like that sell it. People who don't mod their phones will eat that up on CL and you'll make back you money and probably profit. Or just hold out for dual core.
For me, it's not enough of a hardware change to justify the money (I never do contracts). I rarely see more than about 4 megs (usually no more than 2.5) so "4G" is kinda pointless until T-Mo ramps themselves up in my area. I plan on waiting to see what all of the Dual Core's have to offer. I'm perfectly happy with the Vibrant. It's relatively easy to modify, forgiving to user errors and with the Nexus S floating around out there with such similar hardware specs to the Vibrant, I'm confident that we'll see a good Nexus S port and development support for a good while to come. Plus my Vibrant is already about 6 months old and I like to stretch my devices out about a year and skip every other "generation".
unless the device is either given to me, or donated for a dev phone, I dont plan on getting it.
Heck, I have a Vib 4G already minus the 4G. LOL
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For me, it's not enough of a hardware change to justify the money (I never do contracts). I rarely see more than about 4 megs (usually no more than 2.5) so "4G" is kinda pointless until T-Mo ramps themselves up in my area. I plan on waiting to see what all of the Dual Core's have to offer. I'm perfectly happy with the Vibrant. It's relatively easy to modify, forgiving to user errors and with the Nexus S floating around out there with such similar hardware specs to the Vibrant, I'm confident that we'll see a good Nexus S port and development support for a good while to come. Plus my Vibrant is already about 6 months old and I like to stretch my devices out about a year and skip every other "generation".
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+1---Well Said.
All the cry babies should buy an I-POOP, then they can have error free no modifications possible, expensive apps fun phone. Me, I like the Vibrant and I get 5-6 DL all the time and 3-3.5 up...... So as long as XDA is here All of us are ok
I will say that when I go to L.A./Dana Point area, I see 5.5-6.5 Mbps. There rest of the time here in Alabama, I normally see about 2 Mbps (downtown Birmingham will give me 5 Mbps) although in the house I'm lucky to get a full Meg.
I have zero complaints. T-mobile is consistently faster than AT&T and I get faster speeds on T-Mo than on my Verizon MiFi (If both devices are on a 3G network of course). I just have a hard time thinking that a phone capable of 21 Mbps is worth it when I have one capable of 14.4 Mbps. At this point, it's a novelty more than a real world application. Now, when T-Mobile flips the switch, maybe that will change. I remember when 1.5 Mbps coming into your house was blazing fast.
All I need to already have a Vibrant 4G (minus the 4G) is a FFC...and I probably should do that mod just to see what it's all about. Especially after all of the awesome steam it's picked up!
no dual core chip?
Nope, no thanks.
Dual core will be irrelevant to the android software until the end of the year. Why? The Nexus S is single core and most apps and the OS will be optimized for the hummingbird.
I'd probably get it if GPS locks instantly, is accurate and doesn't jump(in other words, NORMAL GPS). Can't live without SUPERAMOLED. Sucks it doesn't have LED flash or internal SD though...
I'm still kinda pissed at samsung for doing this... but thats the way it goes. I will not be getting it because of the space. I have 2 gigs left on my phone and 10 on my 32 gig sd card. The 4G will not give me enough space.
No more Samsung mobile devices for me, switching back to HTC when the next great one comes out.

Atrix are you getting it why?

Before I start I want yo say that this is not solo for the AT&T version, but any version and I would like to hear it from you guys, opinions fears and hopes.
Leme be the first on this post that says I'm going to get this baby. why? I'm interested I'm the docks as its being a smartphone feature I've personally being expecting the most as I see a promising future. I know this may be the first but won't be the last and hopefully becomes a common feature with the time that will be considered rather useful with increasing smartphone technology.
What I fear is how thigh Motorola plans on closing the bootloader... only allowing little development for the phone.
My hopes are that Motorola in plans on cleaning their reputation will find (or has found) a way to get them both(security and openness) walking together down the same road
Just added a Poll for those who would better Like a vote ^^
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tegra 2 chip, 1GB ram, qHD display, finger print sensor, 1950 mHA battery, this is just a few down the list. I will buy this sucker, my first ever Android and Motorola experience
In my opinion, its the best Android to come out on AT&T which I am currently happy with. I bought just the phone and got a great price. Coming from an iPhone 4 and anxious to try out Android finally.
Aside from the obvious reasons to buy the Atrix, I am a Motorola two-way radio technician and I constantly get asked by my customers as to why I don't carry a "Droid". Well for one, I don't like the way CDMA sounds compared to GSM and two, I get a 15% discount with at&t that I can't get with any other carrier.
Since at&t works very well in the areas I need service, I've got no reason to switch.
I will be getting the Atrix.
Im living in Europe and for me its presently a decision between the LG Optimus 2X or the Motorola Atrix 4G.
And at the moment I am more or less solo considering the Atrix, but I will only get the Atrix provided:
1: It can get root (Done)
2: Its bootloader is not locked
2a: Or in the case that it is locked, that the lock is broken by the time I want to get it.
Thats really what it all comes down to for me at this point. I dont want to pay several 100 dollars for a damned phone that I am not "allowed" to mess with "for my own safety". What a load of crap really.
If those 2 things I listed get cleared up come April, then I am getting the Atrix . And if not then I am getting the LG instead. Its that simple really...
Why not buy it? The best phone in the market now, man!
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tegra 2 chip, 1GB ram, qHD display, finger print sensor, 1950 mHA battery, this is just a few down the list. I will buy this sucker, my first ever Android and Motorola experience
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Same here, although I did own a razr back in the day. Great specs on this device.
This was a simple choice for me. Finally a good android phone on my carrier and I'm up for a equipment discount. I'm glad I waited the few extra months.
Does anyone know if the Nvidia app store will be on the Atrix? I know I saw a video on it but I have not seen it reviewed in any of the videos I've seen for the Atrix on youtube.
Yes I am getting it, and the efuse doesn't bother me at all. The specs of the phone are great and I really don't have a problem with stock.
It will make a nice upgrade from my Nexus One
I know people wish upon this few things that they can't have. But this will make a great phone until next year.
I have a nexus one, so this really is a resolution upgrade for me since my N1 is pentile as well.
The N1 has horrible battery life compared to the Atrix, and the touch sensor is garbage. So these two things alone will make make my usage of the phone better.
Non proprietary HDMI and USB ports are much nicer than the $50 cable Samsung wants to charge.
I despise AT&T for disabling HSUPA, and this really make it not a 4G phone, but T-Mobile sucks here and Sprint has nothing interesting. We're getting LTE this year so next year I may consider Verizon.
For now, this Atrix is a pretty good thing for me.
-James
for geadget lovers,
this is a stand out phone , because of the docks. maybe in the future more modal phones/comps will be on the market. So as the first (beside the foleo) the atrix has to be in the personal collection or history (similar to the Nokia 8110, Ericcson r520m, SE T68, Nokia N95, iPhone 2G and some others). I tell you, sometimes you will look back, and maybe the atrix will be one of your phones you will remember, the docks pricey or not will make the difference.
... my two cents, still remember my r520m (bluetooth gprs tether, year 2000)
... sorry about the double post, mixed the topics ...
Just ordered mine.....my birthday is the 23rd so my Awsome GF is buying it for me.
Yes. I was wary foe a while, jumping between this and the Galaxy S 2.
Dual core, 1 gig DDR 2 RAM, great battery, high resolution sscreen.
Mainly for.the speed. I also just picked up 250 so I might look into a dock as well for when im on the computer.
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Yes. I was wary for a while, jumping between this and the Galaxy S 2.
Dual core, 1 gig DDR 2 RAM, great battery, high resolution sscreen.
Mainly for.the speed. I also just picked up 250 so I might look into a dock as well for when im on the computer.
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If they crack the bootloader come April then I am getting the Atrix, otherwise I will be getting the LG.
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Does anyone know if the Nvidia app store will be on the Atrix? I know I saw a video on it but I have not seen it reviewed in any of the videos I've seen for the Atrix on youtube.
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I just did a google search for Tegra Zone and their site says it is coming soon.
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are you getting T-Mobiles SGS II? (Hercules)

Long time reader, occasional poster.
Well, it seems as if it is time to move on from my amazing Vibrant. I have had this for about a year now and it has been my best and favorite phone to date. The devs have been amazing, and everyone on these forums have been fantastic as well.
This isn't a good by, just curious to see if any of you are moving on, and what your thoughts are on it? I would love to see some Team Whiskey on the Hercules, some CM7 love (thats a given), and even some Einherjar Dev's on the new phone.
So what do you say? Will i be seeing more of you in the near future?
Not to the SGS2.
I'm waiting for the Google/Samsung conference event next week and that will decide that. If Verizon is gonna have the exclusivity on the Prime for more than 6 months, I will pick up an HTC Amaze 4G. If not, I will wait 1-3 months and get the one phone to rule them all- Nexus Prime.
T-mobile's SGS2 is a tad outdated in its camera department, screen resolution, and audio output. It's a nice phone but the Amaze 4G is just a hair better imo due to it's back-lit illuminated camera. Nexus prime...well that's nexus prime. Obliterates every phone is just about every department.
I'm quite happy with my Vibrant for now though. CM7 themed beautifully and incredible usability coupled with 1.5Ghz CPU, 1800mah Samsung genuine battery, 32GB microSD +16 internal for 48GB total, audiophile-grade audio out, and impressive screen and form factor? Sorry but this phone is just now at its full potential and I see no reason to upgrade. 3400 Quadrants and no lag anywhere.
iPhone 4S or Nexus Prime, depending on Coverage and Price. I'm leaning towards the iPhone because the Battery Life is great, iCloud is good, and they have a better ecosystem than Google.
However, the rumored hardware in the Nexus Prime is enticing. If it's on T-Mobile, though... I'm gonna have to pass. Dunno why Google keeps launching Nexus phones on T-Mobile. They have the worst coverage of hte 4 carriers, by far.
I'm moving in a few weeks, so I'll have to wait and see how it all pans out...
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I'm moving in a few weeks...
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cannot wait...
NOPE, Hercules is going to be Vibrant part 2. Another phone with zero updates/support, especially since it is different from all the other SGS2 phones.
Nice phone, but nope. I rather get Amaze over Hercules.
Waiting for prime though.
I will be getting the hercules because it is Samsung!
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I would get it if i had money but i dont so ill just save up for prime or next in galaxy s series
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iPhone 4S or Nexus Prime, depending on Coverage and Price. I'm leaning towards the iPhone because the Battery Life is great, iCloud is good, and they have a better ecosystem than Google.
However, the rumored hardware in the Nexus Prime is enticing. If it's on T-Mobile, though... I'm gonna have to pass. Dunno why Google keeps launching Nexus phones on T-Mobile. They have the worst coverage of hte 4 carriers, by far.
I'm moving in a few weeks, so I'll have to wait and see how it all pans out...
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Coverage depends where you at. Also T-Mobile is developer friendly. Cyanogen and his team have gotten free phones and tablets to develop on for t-mobile. I don't know what your talking about but Google cloud system is far superior than icloud. Battery life will always be great on a device that can only take low speed 3g. Hspa+,LTE,Wiimax all use higher bandwidth than. Which cause more battery drain. To be specific T-Mobile coverage on the east side is better than at&t and Sprint coverage. On the west aide at&t is has better coverage. Also Verizon has the best coverage all around but be ready to pay an arm and a leg.
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The quadrant for hercules 3341 sweet huh
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The quadrant for hercules 3341 sweet huh
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If this is using quadrant this makes me think that Samsung change Qualcomm cores from asynchronous because one this picture and the one from Tmonews.com score higher than the other variant from TELUS. I'm getting it day one.
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If this is using quadrant this makes me think that Samsung change Qualcomm cores from asynchronous because one this picture and the one from Tmonews.com score higher than the other variant from TELUS. I'm getting it day one.
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+1 I want to c it tested with CF bench
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Yea. Just do what I did and say goodbye to tmo and hello to sprint. wimax is fast enough for me and throttling isnt an issue anymore. Plus I always have a boner now. Check my sig to see why.
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Yea. Just do what I did and say goodbye to tmo and hello to sprint. wimax is fast enough for me and throttling isnt an issue anymore. Plus I always have a boner now. Check my sig to see why.
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Sprint has bad service and doesn't really penetrate walls Hspa+ speeds get the same as wimax speeds. Not to mention T-Mobile has lower ping speeds as well. Let's not mention that if your phone breaks you need to buy a new phone instead of just switching sim cards. This phone is also fully aws compatible. As for throttling I never reached the cap to be throttle and all my apps sync every 5 minutes. Unless your tether all day and streaming YouTube or some video app you never reach it.
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The future looks very bright for Samsung. They have Cyanogen on board now which means more source code releases from Sammy and early CM8 release for Galaxy S2. Sammy has better hardware, better screen than HTC and thinner form factor. Im getting the S2 on Oct 12th.
I love the Nexus Prime too but apparently its a Verizon only release (which is why they dont have a Galaxy S2 model) and I dont want to wait 6 months for a GSM version to be released. Also there is word that Ice Cream Sandwich release is being pushed back.
I think I'm gonna wait for the prime. The Hercules seems great with a beefed up cpu but i can see driver problems in the future.
I wanted to get the Samsung Note but that seems that it will only come to at&t.
I don't see myself leave Tmobile anytime soon due to I use over 5g of data a month, I live in the east cost so all networks are about the same, also free tehrering and sum card switching.
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I'm going to be moving on to the next Nexus device, especially if it ends up on Verizon. I have been loyal to T-Mo for a loooong time, but as much as I travel, I need a network that is faster in more places (I spend a lot of time wishing I even had EDGE). I already have a VZW MiFi, and I depend on it. Running CM7 with no WiFi Calling can often leave me in the dust on cell reception.
I've always been a fan of Samsung hardware, but I'm not a fan of Touchwiz and the speed of updates. Not just from Samsung, but any manufacturer that is applying their own framework to the mix. I really, really enjoy tinkering with things, and if there's one thing I've learned from my Vibrant (which is my first Android phone) it's that not having a pure Google phone really hinders the process.
That said, if Verizon gets an ACTUAL Nexus device (pure Google) with LTE, then I'll move on over. If not, I'll cross my fingers and hope T-Mobile gets it like they always do and I'll just stay put. Swapping to AT&T or Sprint isn't in the equation, even if they somehow were the only one's with the "Prime". I won't swap if LTE isn't in the equation since here, locally, T-Mobile beats the pants off of EVDO in the speed department.
I honestly believe that people put to much hype into phone specs. No one can tell the difference between processors or much of anything else under the hood. It's fun to talk about and I enjoy geeking out about it all, but hardware changes every 6 months anyway. If you're buying a device based purely on hardware specs, you'll always be disappointed when the next thing comes out 3 months later.
i'll probably kill any one at the store to get one on the release date
okay... kill is a bit overboard, but a would not mind pushing people aside, or jump on them to get it muahahahahaha
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Long time reader, occasional poster.
Well, it seems as if it is time to move on from my amazing Vibrant. I have had this for about a year now and it has been my best and favorite phone to date. The devs have been amazing, and everyone on these forums have been fantastic as well.
This isn't a good by, just curious to see if any of you are moving on, and what your thoughts are on it? I would love to see some Team Whiskey on the Hercules, some CM7 love (thats a given), and even some Einherjar Dev's on the new phone.
So what do you say? Will i be seeing more of you in the near future?
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I love the Nexus Prime too but apparently its a Verizon only release (which is why they dont have a Galaxy S2 model) and I dont want to wait 6 months for a GSM version to be released. Also there is word that Ice Cream Sandwich release is being pushed back.
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yes, it has been confirmed already the delay for the ICS and Nexus Prime launch, it's all over the news
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I think I'm gonna wait for the prime. The Hercules seems great with a beefed up cpu but i can see driver problems in the future.
I wanted to get the Samsung Note but that seems that it will only come to at&t.
I don't see myself leave Tmobile anytime soon due to I use over 5g of data a month, I live in the east cost so all networks are about the same, also free tehrering and sum card switching.
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same here, i wanted also the Prime and Note
unfortunately Prime will not be available on GSM anytime soon it seems
and the Note is only on the normal GSM frequency that is not AWS compatible
so that's why the SGS2 Hercules is the best toy until Nexus 3 Prime becomes available on AWS bands
No, I wont get any US version GSII
Id love to get one to work on...but im broke so probably not =/
I'm getting it, I'm pretty tired of my vibrant, this is the longest I've had my phone lol, so definitely wanting something new.
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Considering switch to AT&T and the note, opinions?

I have had the Evo 4g since launch, and it has been an amazing phone. I have loved it even more since I rooted it and every new rom I try. But my girlfriend seems to be in love with the note, and I have to admit, that big a$$ screen is kind of nice. I'm just not sure that I would put it to its fullest use for very long, liek using the stylus and stuff. And by the looks fo the forums for the Note, there are only a couple roms for it. Not saying I need to have as many roms available as I have had with my 4g, but it would be a plus.
I guess I am wondering if I should consider the note, or if the galaxy s3 might fit the bill better. Or should I stick with sprint and grab and Evo LTE?
I'm not asking you to make up my mind for me, I need to play with the phones and do that myself. Just wondering if anybody has any opinions or advice?
Sam-Suck
I've been considering jumping ship to ATT as well lately, never had a problem w/ Sprint's speeds but they've been deteriorating rapidly where I live. If you do decide to move, why not the HTC One X?
I agree
snownskate said:
I've been considering jumping ship to ATT as well lately, never had a problem w/ Sprint's speeds but they've been deteriorating rapidly where I live. If you do decide to move, why not the HTC One X?
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This is a good point. Why not stick with that HTC goodness? lol
Seriously, though, I do admit that the Note is impressive, both in size and performance. While not too much more impressive than the rest of the Galaxy SII series (especially the Skyrocket), the screen size is instantly what gets people's attention. I've tested the Note, and I do like its appearance and style...but damn, that One X is sexy
I don't know, it's up to you on this one. The Note isn't too much more expensive than the One X, and Samsung's UI is easy to get used to. You get a nice phone either way.
HTC EVO 4G LTE pretty much is the one x + the SD card,kick stand and removeable battery haha..the note..ehhh,I'd just get the s3 for sprint...can't mess with unlimited data plans..perfect for root + free wifi tether/hot spot....wireless network speeds don't really effect me,as along as I can make a phone call b do basic browsing...there's usually a wifi connection for downloads n updates nowadays
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If u don't care about unlimited data
Note is fantastic, my opinion don't go with X one small storage haha
HTC EVO 4g LTE far better than x one
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I wanted something different. Nothign against HTC, I loved my evo. And truth be told I may prefer sense to touchwiz. But we, my girlfriend and I picked up a couple notes. The screen size is amazing, no complaints there. Battery life the past couple days has been in the 10-12 hour range, which seems a little low to me since it was with less then moderate use. But then again I am comparing to my rooted evo running decks reloaded and mason SBC which would last forever, lol.
I was hoping to be more wowed by the note like I was when I got my evo. But I think the jump from a blackberry curve to the evo was a bit more of a wow move then what moving fromt he evo to the note is. The note is a great phone, and my girlfriend loves it. I need to really get my hands dirty with it and see what it can do, but I am keeping my options open.
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I was hoping to be more wowed by the note like I was when I got my evo. But I think the jump from a blackberry curve to the evo was a bit more of a wow move then what moving fromt he evo to the note is. The note is a great phone, and my girlfriend loves it. I need to really get my hands dirty with it and see what it can do, but I am keeping my options open.
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That's expected; jumping from one OS to the other is way different than just switching phone manufacturers. Android to Android isn't that amazing; Android to iOS (or, preferably the other way around ) is.
Either way, seems you're warming up to your phone nicely. Always good to hear that. If you stick with it, great. If not, I would recommend the One X should this phone disappoint down the road. You have some time to test drive it, so get what you can out of it before making that final decision.
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I'm not asking you to make up my mind for me, I need to play with the phones and do that myself. Just wondering if anybody has any opinions or advice?
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I would make the decision based on; what 3G speeds you get now, if where you live will get Sprint's LTE soon, and if you already have Wimax coverage.
So I guess I'm saying it kind of depends.
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I would make the decision based on; what 3G speeds you get now, if where you live will get Sprint's LTE soon, and if you already have Wimax coverage.
So I guess I'm saying it kind of depends.
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I am in columbus OH, I have 4G on both att and sprint and i imagine ATT and sprint will both have LTE here by the end of the year.
I haven't read up much on the HTC One X or the Samsung Galaxy SIII, but one thing iI loved about the evo was how easy it was to root/flash and not brickbrick the thing. Looking at the note forums, I see a lot of posts about bricked phones. Granted I haven't read all the details, but it seems rooting/flashing is less safe on the note, which kind of sucks. Are the One X or SIII any easier to root/flash?
Just realized I was viewing the international note forums. The art note forums seem a little more user friendly
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I am in columbus OH, I have 4G on both att and sprint and i imagine ATT and sprint will both have LTE here by the end of the year.
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Well, if I knew for sure about LTE coming to my area within a year on Sprint, I would stay with Sprint. Personally I would get a Wimax device OFF contact (Epic Touch is Sprint's best Wimax device), and wait til the end of the year to see if LTE will actually come. Then make my decision. If you are completely done with Sprint though, just jump ship now. No reason to wait.
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