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do I need s=off for cyanogenmod 7?

I have ROM manager premium, and I just downloaded CM7 through it, and was about to flash it, but remembered I dont have s=off.
Also, I cannot get past this screen no matter what. htt p://img145.imageshack.us/i/20110222142411.jpg/
Any help will be appreaciated I really want to be able to run CM7

You need to be rooted, use the ultimate gfree method that's stickie in the development section after you root make sure to back up your stock OS.
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epsix said:
You need to be rooted, use the ultimate gfree method that's stickie in the development section after you root make sure to back up your stock OS.
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Thanks for answering, but I am rooted, I used the visionary perm-root method. I have terminal emulator and typed "su" and it prompted for super user access. I also have a few apps that use root, which work.

Root access alone is not enough. You need S-Off as well.

jggimi said:
Root access alone is not enough. You need S-Off as well.
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Is that why I always get this screen when I try to make a back up or boot into recovery.

jggimi said:
Root access alone is not enough. You need S-Off as well.
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This Statement is correct.
jessek17 said:
Thanks for answering, but I am rooted, I used the visionary perm-root method. I have terminal emulator and typed "su" and it prompted for super user access. I also have a few apps that use root, which work.
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for short terms "s" Means security protocol. If your S=ON that means the phone will do a search each time you boot the phone on to see if anything as been tampered with. and if it has it will revert back to a factory status. Just like you first bought the phone. Which includes rooting, recovery images, boot images, engineering screens. What ever you do to your phone that isn't factory will be undone.
It is impossible to do. Because you need to flash the ROM from the recovery image. And since one you boot your phone it will replace Clockwork ROM manager with the factory style recovery image, you cannot not even get to the place you need to flash it from.

jessek17 said:
Is that why I always get this screen when I try to make a back up or boot into recovery.
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Correct because you flashing the Clockwork Recovery image will not STICK unless you have s=off.
They system will replace the aftermarket image with the original EVERYTIME you turn off the phone.

That is the Stock Recovery. You need S-Off and ClockworkMod Recovery. And the right release of CWM Recovery, also. Use CWM Recovery 2.x to back up, restore, and install Android 2.2 (Froyo) based ROMs, including stock, and CWM Recovery 3.x to back up, restore, and install Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) based ROMs, such as CM7.
There is a special version of CWM Recovery that can manage both Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs: 3.0.0.6. Search for it in the Development subforum.

Thanks for all the information, I am slowly learning, and trying to understand all of this.
I am currently trying to get s=off. I found this link via google : ht tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
I am already "rooted" I believe, because I have superuser access. Should I unroot first?
Also, in order to back up my current(stock) rom, do I need to use clockwork recovery 2.x?

jessek17 said:
Thanks for all the information, I am slowly learning, and trying to understand all of this.
I am currently trying to get s=off. I found this link via google : ht tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
I am already "rooted" I believe, because I have superuser access. Should I unroot first?
Also, in order to back up my current(stock) rom, do I need to use clockwork recovery 2.x?
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Yes that method will work.
no do not unroot prior to starting that method
yes you need to use 2.x to back up froyo (2.2) ROMs.

neidlinger said:
Yes that method will work.
no do not unroot prior to starting that method
yes you need to use 2.x to back up froyo (2.2) ROMs.
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Okay, is there a simpler way to get s=off? That looks a little complex for my first time doing this, and it seems as if one typo will brick my phone.

jessek17 said:
Okay, is there a simpler way to get s=off? That looks a little complex for my first time doing this, and it seems as if one typo will brick my phone.
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http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/10/how-to-temporarily-root-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-htc-glacier/
you can use the link i posted ^^^ there.
I will state this though. That link that you posted is the simplest way of truly rooting your phone. If that seem complex i would advice against you doing it at this point in time.
Rooting your phone basically turns your phone into a computer that can make and receive phone calls. And doing the wrong thing at the wrong time will seriously FUBAR your phone.
If you take a look in the Q&A section and the General Section you will see TONS of post with people in your shoes that didn't know what they were getting into and didn't take the warning laid out there.
READ READ READ about the android ADB before you decide to root your phone. And learn what everything is and what it does.
not trying to sound like a "Richard" but i don't want to see you mess up your phone either.

neidlinger said:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/10/how-to-temporarily-root-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-htc-glacier/
you can use the link i posted ^^^ there.
I will state this though. That link that you posted is the simplest way of truly rooting your phone. If that seem complex i would advice against you doing it at this point in time.
Rooting your phone basically turns your phone into a computer that can make and receive phone calls. And doing the wrong thing at the wrong time will seriously FUBAR your phone.
If you take a look in the Q&A section and the General Section you will see TONS of post with people in your shoes that didn't know what they were getting into and didn't take the warning laid out there.
READ READ READ about the android ADB before you decide to root your phone. And learn what everything is and what it does.
not trying to sound like a "Richard" but i don't want to see you mess up your phone either.
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Isnt that just a video of temprooting and then confirming the root with terminal emulator?
I have seen many people with problems and they think they bricked their phone. I dont want to be one of them, and I've had a few close calls, and I'll tell you it wasnt fun.
From what I see ADB is just a remote terminal?
I appreciate that, and have taken the warnings very seriously.

jessek17 said:
Isnt that just a video of temprooting and then confirming the root with terminal emulator?
I have seen many people with problems and they think they bricked their phone. I dont want to be one of them, and I've had a few close calls, and I'll tell you it wasnt fun.
From what I see ADB is just a remote terminal?
I appreciate that, and have taken the warnings very seriously.
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That's kind of my point. People don't read.
If you take your time and read and do the entire process you won't have a problem. but you need to read all the way through something prior to jumping in the ring. There is a very strict set a rules that need to be followed.

[Q] cant install cwrm on the mt4g

hi guys i need a little help i cant flash or install the cwrm on the my touch 4g the phone is alrady rooted i temp rooted then perm rooted and now im rooted after the boot so i guess that means im rooted but when i flash the cwrm apparently everything goes smooth then i click on boot into recovery mode and it just never happens, instead i get the phone with the red triangle, and then i tried to do it manually (vol down power button) and insted of s=off i get s=on so i dont know what to think am i rooted or not? i have the superuser app and it asks me to allow things sometimes plus the root checker tells me im rooted....so please help me

If your bootloader still shows S-ON, you're definitely not rooted. Here are two root methods to try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Personally, I recommend the first one that uses Visionary and the root.sh script.

TeeJay3800 said:
If your bootloader still shows S-ON, you're definitely not rooted. Here are two root methods to try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Personally, I recommend the first one that uses Visionary and the root.sh script.
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TJ is pretty much hit the nail on head.
The "s-on / s-off" is a security check. If your "s-on" the phone will restore it self to a 100% new status, any recovery images, fonts, rooted apps, have been replaced back to a like new status. You need to manually turn the security check off. Which one of the two links TJ will do for you.

Then just download rom manager from market. Open it and flash cwm through it. That simple.

dubie76 said:
Then just download rom manager from market. Open it and flash cwm through it. That simple.
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IF their "s" is sill "on" it will not flash and overwrite the stock recovery image. They'll flash it and it'll go right back to stock once they turn off the phone.

neidlinger said:
IF their "s" is sill "on" it will not flash and overwrite the stock recovery image. They'll flash it and it'll go right back to stock once they turn off the phone.
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Correct. I was adding to your post. That's why I said, "then"...

dubie76 said:
Correct. I was adding to your post. That's why I said, "then"...
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*face palm*
i thought it was a sarcastic post

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If your bootloader still shows S-ON, you're definitely not rooted. Here are two root methods to try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Personally, I recommend the first one that uses Visionary and the root.sh script.
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+1 wow, I've learned so much just from reading some of your posts.

neidlinger said:
*face palm*
i thought it was a sarcastic post
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Lol. no, sorry I wasnt as clear as I thought I was.

[Q] unrevoked wont flash

hi
im a complete noob at this game so plz bear with me.. i managed to s off my wildfire earlier with alpharev (cheers alpharev) and have followed instructions on other threads but i still cant get the latest unrevoked to work..it still asks if the firmware is new? ive also tried the older version which also fails to flash the recovery.
i used the latest superoneclick and it went through the motions and deemed that the phone was rooted but as i checked it, it wasnt
i have just used rom manager premium and it downloads clockwork to about 99% then freezes and force closes
can anyone point me it the right direction as im loosing my hair atm
thanks in advance.

tincaesox said:
hi
im a complete noob at this game so plz bear with me.. i managed to s off my wildfire earlier with alpharev (cheers alpharev) and have followed instructions on other threads but i still cant get the latest unrevoked to work..it still asks if the firmware is new? ive also tried the older version which also fails to flash the recovery.
i used the latest superoneclick and it went through the motions and deemed that the phone was rooted but as i checked it, it wasnt
i have just used rom manager premium and it downloads clockwork to about 99% then freezes and force closes
can anyone point me it the right direction as im loosing my hair atm
thanks in advance.
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with superoneclick, hit shell root, wait. after , hit root, and you'll have it !

anonimo95 said:
with superoneclick, hit shell root, wait. after , hit root, and you'll have it !
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thanks..tried this and still no joy

Try this way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130044

nejc121 said:
Try this way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130044
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worked a treat
kudos to you man

no need of shell root first. Directly hitting the root also gives permaroot.
And go with PC49IMG process or fastboot flash recovery process for custom recovery. Donot use unrevoked.

[Q] rom manager doesnt backup or flashes...?

i have a mytouch 4g and im new to the forums and roms but i followed every instruction down to the letter but when i go to backup rom on the rom manager the phone just reboot and i see a phone with a exclamation mark....? help please and thank you

Flash clockwork first. You can do that in Rom manager - first option
Via my HTC Thunderbolt

rawdawgroy said:
i have a mytouch 4g and im new to the forums and roms but i followed every instruction down to the letter but when i go to backup rom on the rom manager the phone just reboot and i see a phone with a exclamation mark....? help please and thank you
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That means you haven't installed ClockworkMod recovery yet. First flash that via ROM Manager, and then attempt to make a backup again. I recommend doing it the manual way by booting into recovery mode, rather than by doing it through the ROM Manager app.

TeeJay3800 said:
That means you haven't installed ClockworkMod recovery yet. First flash that via ROM Manager, and then attempt to make a backup again. I recommend doing it the manual way by booting into recovery mode, rather than by doing it through the ROM Manager app.
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I was getting ready to say the same thing.

I got the clockworkmod recovery the phone doesnt let me do anything with out it and it shows up on my memory card when I try to back up it just goes to the screen with the big red exclamation point and when I try manually only the phone stock recovery comes up not clockworkmod....?

rawdawgroy said:
I got the clockworkmod recovery the phone doesnt let me do anything with out it and it shows up on my memory card when I try to back up it just goes to the screen with the big red exclamation point and when I try manually only the phone stock recovery comes up not clockworkmod....?
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are you rooted,if not you need to root it first

yea temp root and ive rooted everytime the phone reboots it wont let me use the app unless ive rooted the device

rawdawgroy said:
yea temp root and ive rooted everytime the phone reboots it wont let me use the app unless ive rooted the device
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Receptionist : the doctor will see you now mr rawdagroy
doctor:
Well Mr RawDog it Sounds like a good case of the "didntreadeverything".
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While you did root your phone you must turn off the security protocol. That is why we are mentioning s-off/s-on. IF you look in the development section you will see thread after thread after thread on how to do just that. Simply running VISIONary will not root your phone to the degree that you need. You must turn off that security protocol. If you don't everytime you reboot your phone it's going back to a OE fashion and losing Root Access, and losing the recovery image since the phone is flashing the stock recovery image again.

but thats what im sayin ive even had z4root and visionary but i only temp root not perm do i have to perm root to get this to work...? also ive re-rooted my phone everytime i rebooted cause i know that temp goes away after.... HELP PLEASE

rawdawgroy said:
but thats what im sayin ive even had z4root and visionary but i only temp root not perm do i have to perm root to get this to work...? also ive re-rooted my phone everytime i rebooted cause i know that temp goes away after.... HELP PLEASE
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read my signature in this post. Or in my post above. I have two links on how to turn s-off. VISIONary.apk and Z4 will not turn off your security protocol.

also do i need sdk or adb to flash a rom on my phone....????

rawdawgroy said:
also do i need sdk or adb to flash a rom on my phone....????
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NEED ? No.
HIGHLY ENCOURAGE Yes.

ok i followed your instructions down to the letter and when i put # cd/sdcard/root it say not found on card .....???

rawdawgroy said:
ok i followed your instructions down to the letter and when i put # cd/sdcard/root is say sd card not found .....???
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its cd /sdcard/root not cd/sdcard/root make sure you hit the space bar between cd and /

Here is a good how to on you tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4B4y0CQUDo

and after it does it thing just turn the phone off or....? and how do i know if its done...???

rawdawgroy said:
and after it does it thing just turn the phone off or....? and how do i know if its done...???
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when i rooted i didn't use that method i used this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996 also watched this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4B4y0CQUDo and had no issues. Sorry i can't help with that method

rawdawgroy said:
and after it does it thing just turn the phone off or....? and how do i know if its done...???
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you need to boot into hBoot and look at the top line for s-on or s-off. If s-off just boot the phone normally and click on Temp root, then perma root and your done.

WOLF26915 said:
when i rooted i didn't use that method i used this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996 also watched this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4B4y0CQUDo and had no issues. Sorry i can't help with that method
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is this a perm root or temp i ask cause i am really tired of rooting after every boot...

rawdawgroy said:
is this a perm root or temp i ask cause i am really tired of rooting after every boot...
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yes this is perm root

Trouble rooting my Razr M, please help!!

Ok so I have followed the root method of "djrbliss" to the letter, every time I attempt the root it says "exploit failed", "cleaning up" and then "successful" then the phone reboots, I check to make sure it has rooted properly with one of the root checker apps and it says the phone doesn't have root access. So I have tried this multiple times taking suggestions from other threads and users such as ( clearing cache and doing a factory reset, and replacing the su and superuser files with the ones from the other cite) I was super jacked to root my new razr m but now I am not so sure, please help out guys.

WhatTheCuss said:
Ok so I have followed the root method of "djrbliss" to the letter, every time I attempt the root it says "exploit failed", "cleaning up" and then "successful" then the phone reboots, I check to make sure it has rooted properly with one of the root checker apps and it says the phone doesn't have root access. So I have tried this multiple times taking suggestions from other threads and users such as ( clearing cache and doing a factory reset, and replacing the su and superuser files with the ones from the other cite) I was super jacked to root my new razr m but now I am not so sure, please help out guys.
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We need phone info build & ul status!

aviwdoowks said:
We need phone info build & ul status!
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Android version 4.1.2,
Build number 9.8.1Q-78-1?
Sorry I'm not exactly sure what you mean

aviwdoowks said:
We need phone info build & ul status!
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Oh and system version is 98.16.3.XT907.Verizon.en.US

It appears that you are on the most recent update, which, by itself is not rootable. However, there has been a work around achieved. I think it involves using RSD to go back to the previous version, rooting it, protecting root with Voodoo, reflashing the most current update, then restoring root via Voodoo. Anywho, check out the thread here: http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...oot-razr-m-xt907-for-locked-devices-on-91878/

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Oh and system version is 98.16.3.XT907.Verizon.en.US
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Seems you did not ud fully. Post a ss . Here are my steps if your BL is unlocked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44213644&postcount=5

Thanks! Ill let you know how it turns out

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It appears that you are on the most recent update, which, by itself is not rootable. However, there has been a work around achieved. I think it involves using RSD to go back to the previous version, rooting it, protecting root with Voodoo, reflashing the most current update, then restoring root via Voodoo. Anywho, check out the thread here: http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...oot-razr-m-xt907-for-locked-devices-on-91878/
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YES! it worked! thank you so much!

WhatTheCuss said:
YES! it worked! thank you so much!
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Yay! Glad it worked out for you.